Random upgrade idea (in General)

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 7 2010 8:08 AM EDT

Simply because i know that GoM are still fairly unused with all the dmg boosting gloves around i thought of an addition to it.
Each +1 reduces enemy evasion (DBs and skill) by x%.
x should be any number between 0.5 and 2.5.
Anything lower would make the boost nearly irrelevant, anything higher could make it overly easy to nerf evasion entirely.
Though a cap could be in place like 70% evasion reduction but i don't know.

discuss! :)

Wraithlin September 7 2010 8:17 AM EDT

How about evasion steal.

Rename it to "Gloves of the Swordsman".

each +1 reduces opponent's total evasion by 1% and you gain the lost skill.

Wraithlin September 7 2010 8:17 AM EDT

that should read 1% per hit.

Zenai [Ministry of Pain] September 7 2010 10:05 AM EDT

Gloves of the Witch King

QBPit Spawn [Abyssal Specters] September 7 2010 10:50 AM EDT

Yea, like the evasion skill needs something reducing it even more *rolls eyes*. You can see how underpowered it is by looking at the top 5, only 1 player in the top 5 evasion is even active.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] September 7 2010 11:26 AM EDT

*Every* team currently in the top 5 is using some form of evasion. 2 are paying for it, one trained it, and the others are getting the 4 in one.

QBPit Spawn [Abyssal Specters] September 7 2010 11:35 AM EDT

4 pairs of dbs and a RoBF, none of them actually trained evasion. Look at the actual skill and those who train it. Not many people do any more, it hardly needs nerfed.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 7 2010 11:36 AM EDT

To be fair, Az and Team R dont' really have any Evasion. As the Evasion from the RoBF is on a minion with an AoI.

Sure it'll come into play when everyone else is dead, but that's more of a perk rather than part of the strategy. ;)

Evasion these days is kinda /meh.

Base Chance to Hit and DEX is much more important (and much harder to counter).

Now if the GoM stole BTCH and gave that to you! ;)

QBPit Spawn [Abyssal Specters] September 7 2010 11:44 AM EDT

Sorry, I was looking at highest pr, not score to actually do train some evasion. Although they have only trained a little evasion, my little 1 mil mpr ncb already has more evasion than they do.

QBOddBird September 7 2010 11:45 AM EDT

Forget Evasion, go UC!

Wraithlin September 7 2010 11:52 AM EDT

So i'm curious how you guys don't realize that by stealing evasion you are effectivly increasing your BTCH and you're lowering thiers.

around 90% of the community uses at least one or more of evasion, dbs, AoI or RoBF. You can steal all of this, which would increase your own survivability and make you hit harder against them during the course of the fight.

If you just did BTCH then the gloves would only be useful against tanks, these gloves would be useful against almost everyone.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 7 2010 12:17 PM EDT

Becuase Evasion doesn't effect BTCH in any fashion?

And you can already nuke thier Evasion with your own PTH, and they're on the same upgrade cost curve.

Only thing PTH has in it's favour here (if you discount UC) is Leadership (no such bonus for Evasion) and the GoM/MC (which no one uses!).

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 8 2010 4:52 PM EDT

So you are complaining that the actual skill evasion would be nerfed?
no problem, if this was added to the GoM, perhaps a boost to trained evasion would make both more effective in the current game state.
As in evasion is changed so you need a lower dex to trained evasion ratio or the xp cost per point of evasion is lowered.
Either rate, you can pump to items giving the more commonly used evasion a counter by pumping the GoM :)

lostling September 8 2010 7:51 PM EDT

let GOM leech PTH and add it to your own :)
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