Suggestion: Make the RoE an Amulet (in General)


AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] October 8 2010 12:41 PM EDT

The RoE in it's current incarnation is frankly underwhelming. I feel it would be an ideal candidate to change into an Amulet.

As an Amulet, if you equip one, then that minion would be the only minion taken into account for XP rewards (like the way the current RoE works). If you added additional Amulets, then only those wearing one would count for working out division of X rewards.

So on a 4 Minion team, if two minions wore AoE, when X was rewarded only those two would get XP, exactly if the team was only two minions in size.

AdminTal Destra October 8 2010 12:42 PM EDT

I like it... it could be the new supporter item

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] October 8 2010 12:44 PM EDT

Make it a fixed, unupgradable Amulet, like Junction and Invisibilty.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] October 8 2010 12:46 PM EDT

On second thoughts, this would kill all the single Minion Junction teams. :(

There would be no point running one, when you could run a 2 minion team with the tattoo wearer using a AoJ (and gaining no XP ever, and suffering no penalties. But becoming an item holder for the familiar) and the other minion wearing an AoE.

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] October 8 2010 12:51 PM EDT

We should just switch the RoE back to how it was ;)..

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] October 8 2010 1:23 PM EDT

this would kill all the single Minion Junction teams. :(

It does that now so it would be fitting besides the RoE doesn't give extra Exp like it used to so a SM team wouldn't benefit from it anyway no matter the form. Good Idea bro!

raikkanto October 8 2010 2:05 PM EDT

I like the sounds of this idea. Lends itself to some pretty interesting strategies. :)

Eliteofdelete [Battle Royale] October 8 2010 2:51 PM EDT

Terrible idea as you have already deduced yourself :). As an amulet you sacrifice hardly anything for an insane outcome. Everyone would just run 4 minion teams with the amulet choosing who gets exp. There would be no point to run a single minion.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] October 8 2010 2:56 PM EDT

^ ding ding ding, we got a winner!

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] October 8 2010 3:10 PM EDT

Pfft it would just make it more interesting is all but if you really wanted to stay to to the RoE then make it 1 Equippable per Team invisible problm solved.

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] October 8 2010 3:11 PM EDT

True to the RoE*

AdminTal Destra October 8 2010 3:16 PM EDT

Zen it would still be OP... looking at it now, say you have 4 minions and a tat... put the tat on a minion separate from the one with the AoE

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] October 8 2010 3:19 PM EDT

As an amulet you sacrifice hardly anything for an insane outcome. Everyone would just run 4 minion teams with the amulet choosing who gets exp. There would be no point to run a single minion.

It wouldn't be quite that bad. You'd still have to sacrifice things like Invisibility, AC, Focus or Might. But overall I think you'd gain more than you lose.

Potentially.

But the RoE currently is still /meh.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] October 8 2010 3:21 PM EDT

I have thought about this before. If it actually happened it would just be too unbalanced. I could see it being a set benefit though.

Unappreciated Misnomer October 8 2010 5:07 PM EDT

What if the RoE became something more than a tattoo and an amulet. Its a harness for the halo. takes the armor/head/amulet slot all 3. To then be allowed to equip onto all 4 minions(?) and continues to function poorly as is? The bonus is its drawback, An roe as is fills a niche quite well.

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] October 8 2010 5:54 PM EDT

If it actually happened it would just be too unbalanced.

Well you are the go to person of the game Nat, balance it.

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] October 8 2010 6:46 PM EDT

I like thread killer's proposal of taking up more than one slot if you equip it.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] October 8 2010 8:00 PM EDT

I already said there is a way to balance it. You have it as a set effect. So when you have a certain combination of Enlightened equipment that minion receives the experience.

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] October 8 2010 11:04 PM EDT

Please Elaborate on Enlightened Equipment Nat.

Eliteofdelete [Battle Royale] October 8 2010 11:16 PM EDT

Even so that would be stupid as you would be gaining huge advantages while having concentrated exp. 4 kill slots, one tank with enlightenment equipment and some random minion holding a toe.

Kong Ming October 8 2010 11:20 PM EDT

Nice idea GL! Just need a few tweaks so that it does not become another OP item.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] October 8 2010 11:28 PM EDT

I really see no reason why you cant use an RoE as an amulet as long as you are limited to one per team... what is the difference... yes it makes for more interesting strats and builds, but what is the harm in being able to concentrate your exp onto one minion?

Kong Ming October 8 2010 11:31 PM EDT

It will be even more interesting to be able to wear more than one. Experience shared among the minions wearing the amulet would be cool.

Eliteofdelete [Battle Royale] October 9 2010 12:16 AM EDT

"I really see no reason why you cant use an RoE as an amulet"

I see no reason to have anything less than a 4 minion team if you could.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] October 9 2010 12:19 AM EDT

Oh EoD, I love you, you know that. It's nice to have some sense in the forums these days.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] October 9 2010 12:21 AM EDT

i agree with the dissenters on this one, single minions suck enough as is. we don't need to give free kill slots as well.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] October 9 2010 4:43 AM EDT

i agree with the dissenters on this one, single minions suck enough as is. we don't need to give free kill slots as well.

RoE already does that.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] October 9 2010 4:48 AM EDT

I see no reason to have anything less than a 4 minion team if you could.

If you were a three minion team prior to this change, and wanted a no XP meat shield, you would have to lose any Invisibilty you were currently using, AC for 477AC Walls, or Focus for UC Minions for example. The impact on your current strategy could be large, just for an extra killslot.

The largest problem is Junction. It would always be better to swap an AoJ for a AoE (even if this was the only one swapped) and use a new minion for the AoJ.

This is due to Junction itself, with the wearing minion being little more than an item holder for the familiar, and not really needing to worry about training anything.

But don't get me wrong, I don't think the RoE could work as an Amulet. Possibly if Junction itself was changed.

Unappreciated Misnomer October 9 2010 10:26 AM EDT

What if Enlightenment became a skill?

AdminTal Destra October 9 2010 10:33 AM EDT

You'd have to untrain it when you're done... no one is gonna like that
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