When will melee become viable (in General)
Pwned
November 30 2010 3:38 PM EST
Is this in the works or will it never happen? Can i get a tank who'll win in long battles or will it always be a quick range game?
Shadow Ruler
November 30 2010 3:40 PM EST
take a look at novice's character
Invader Sye
November 30 2010 3:47 PM EST
he's not wearing a tattoo or body armor/cloak
Pwned
November 30 2010 3:47 PM EST
I see....so if I spend millions of CBD into both ranged and melee... I would own...
Pwned
November 30 2010 3:50 PM EST
ooops, sorry, I meant hundreds of millions.
Pwned
November 30 2010 3:54 PM EST
Someone my range-ish with medium sized weapons
Demigod
November 30 2010 4:03 PM EST
But Novice's ability to overpower people is unique: He's in the elite 6+ mil MPR category. Pretty much anyone else trying that stunt will get squashed. Even Zen's character, which probably had more than Novice's $828,033,829 NW, would have had a problem without the tattoo.
On an unrelated note... when's he going to hire a 2nd minion?
QBOddBird
November 30 2010 4:06 PM EST
Erza Scarlet, my single minion tank, is melee only with extremely low NW. It does okay.
It'll be a lot better once I can afford to put a weapon bigger than 8M NW on there, though. xD
My char is also melee only.
Mine could be since it does last a good 20 rounds or so... but I do not have a melee weapon large enough ^_^ You just need to focus on lasting 10+ rounds
BadFish
November 30 2010 4:52 PM EST
Do you specifically want a tank for melee, or are you talking about any melee? my character is right at your size and also operates only in melee (except for the free ranged HoC shot) and I'm having moderate success (7 person fightlist, challenge bonuses ranging from 40-70%)
Demigod
November 30 2010 5:01 PM EST
Natasha' -- My char is also melee only.
How much GA? I consider it a great ranged weapon.
Base GA ^_^ but after the RoS boost its 8 mil
Charity
November 30 2010 5:10 PM EST
Whoa. We can consider GA to be a ranged weapon?
QBOddBird
November 30 2010 5:12 PM EST
wrong account. -.-
GA is a pretty potent weapon...in all rounds of combat :)
Now I just need to lobby admins to get rid of the RoBF hehe
Pwned
November 30 2010 5:27 PM EST
Melee as in physical and not DD. Someone who uses a weapon as their main damage in melee.
Pwned
November 30 2010 5:28 PM EST
Exactly like OB's Scarlet
Did you completely miss the almost all melee tourney I just ran?
Pwned
November 30 2010 5:32 PM EST
Yea I did DARN-IT was it good?
brutal... only one person finished due to an extra harsh rule...
but there were actually targets for a dex heavy melee tank all the way up... not great ones maybe, but targets none the less.
Pwned
November 30 2010 5:39 PM EST
Could we have a physical melee only tourney? Email me please if that happens I wouldnt want to miss that.
I want a Dex heavy melee tank as a regular char. :(
I believe melee became a viable strat about 10 years ago. Next question!
Pwned
November 30 2010 9:45 PM EST
I believe melee became a viable strat about 10 years ago. Next question!
I dont get it...?
I see....so if I spend millions of CBD into both ranged and melee... I would own...
in the eight years i have been playing it has always been pretty common knowledge that melee weapons need nw to compete. there are more economical choices.
going melee as an economical choice will always be weaker than melee with nw and most other economical choices. it would be virtually impossible to balance it any other way as far as i can see.
I believe he's saying melee never stopped being viable
Exbow need i say more
And I'm still being farmed for over 600 each and every day. If it's so OP explain that one?
*Goes to look at your strat*
Ha, a RoBF you've got no room to talk lol ;P
Pwned
December 1 2010 12:48 AM EST
LOl Kefeck nice one
QBJohnnywas
December 1 2010 4:02 AM EST
Melee works at higher level, but you need VA, a trollskin and or lots of HP. Tattoo isn't necessary providing your damage dealer can last.
You do need big enough weapons though.
I consider my team a melee based team, despite the archery and bow. They dont win me many battles. And I can and have run without a tattoo, without losing too many off the fighting.
And I'm still being farmed for over 600 each and every day. If it's so OP explain that one? *Goes to look at your strat* Ha, a RoBF you've got no room to talk lol ;P
Best part is i can change that tattoo to just about anything and have the same fightlist as I do now Goes to show that I have a solid strat backed by an robf
Best part is i can change that tattoo to just about anything and have the same fightlist as I do now Goes to show that I have a solid strat backed by an robf
I"m just just as versatile if not even more so. Heck, I'm setup right now where I could switch any of my weapons and gain a whole new set of targets for every day of the week.
Melee works at higher level, but you need VA, a trollskin and or lots of HP. Tattoo isn't necessary providing your damage dealer can last.
Completely agree, although some of what you said was kind of self explanatory. For example if this topic was about winning in ranged the equivalent would be to train fireball lol ;p.
You do need big enough weapons though.
Surprisingly not as large as you would think with items like the shield of capacity out there. But yes other then that you need very large weapons for melee to work. Especially in the +, seems everyone and there mom has a pair of DB's that are larger than 150.
If Zen had his money in a BoNE instead of Elbow, and BL instead of archery, he'd be doing like 3x damage per hit. SCARY!
QBJohnnywas
December 1 2010 9:21 AM EST
Kef,
might be self explanatory to some, but it's surprising how many people don't get their heads around the basics.
A thought: If your tank can last a long time then the weapons don't need to be HUGE, just big enough. The more damage you can survive the more you can dish out.
Imagine if Zen could live till melee, 20M damage a round would be awesome, lol.
Imagine if Zen could live till melee, 20M damage a round would be awesome, lol.
Don't be giving him idea's for his next ncb ;P lol
3x his damage wouldn't be 20 mil a round. It would be 60 mil a round before reductions. He had already passed the 20 mil a round mark in ranged.
Shadow Ruler
December 1 2010 11:46 AM EST
Yes, but thats not taking into account for the quad hits that the elbow could do. x3 or x4? :P
Demigod
December 1 2010 11:52 AM EST
I'd like to see more melee bruisers. Zen, do it. :)
Pwned
December 1 2010 12:11 PM EST
me 2 Zen go for it!!!!
Pwned
December 1 2010 12:16 PM EST
For my character though, I just cant seem to make it work. The two enchanters and a tank would seem the logical setup to success but to no avail.
AC, you need AC, maybe even PL, probably SS, you can live to melee, it's possible.
Melee isn't just for tanks anyways. Decay mages + weapon slinging enchanters FTW :)
I have two melee tanks and I do pretty well....
Demigod
December 1 2010 11:04 PM EST
RoBF doesn't count.
he fought tatless for years
tatless, naked and alone! ; )
I'd like to see more melee bruisers. Zen, do it. :)
Give me some time to play around with stuff on the lower levels and ummm yeah Ill do it!
he fought tatless for years
ROE FTW :)
I still can, btw. Most RBF users I talk to only need it for one or two people on their list.
When I dropped RoBF it made me stalemate against 2 people I could previously beat. But my new tat let me add 2 new people.
Demigod
December 1 2010 11:50 PM EST
8 million GA does that. Now let's see Dudemus strip the RoBF and fight. :)
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