When will melee become viable (in General)


Pwned November 30 2010 3:38 PM EST

Is this in the works or will it never happen? Can i get a tank who'll win in long battles or will it always be a quick range game?

Shadow Ruler November 30 2010 3:40 PM EST

take a look at novice's character

Invader Sye November 30 2010 3:47 PM EST

he's not wearing a tattoo or body armor/cloak

Pwned November 30 2010 3:47 PM EST

I see....so if I spend millions of CBD into both ranged and melee... I would own...

Pwned November 30 2010 3:50 PM EST

ooops, sorry, I meant hundreds of millions.

Pwned November 30 2010 3:54 PM EST

Someone my range-ish with medium sized weapons

Demigod November 30 2010 4:03 PM EST

But Novice's ability to overpower people is unique: He's in the elite 6+ mil MPR category. Pretty much anyone else trying that stunt will get squashed. Even Zen's character, which probably had more than Novice's $828,033,829 NW, would have had a problem without the tattoo.

On an unrelated note... when's he going to hire a 2nd minion?

QBOddBird November 30 2010 4:06 PM EST

Erza Scarlet, my single minion tank, is melee only with extremely low NW. It does okay.
It'll be a lot better once I can afford to put a weapon bigger than 8M NW on there, though. xD

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] November 30 2010 4:29 PM EST

My char is also melee only.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] November 30 2010 4:34 PM EST

Mine could be since it does last a good 20 rounds or so... but I do not have a melee weapon large enough ^_^ You just need to focus on lasting 10+ rounds

BadFish November 30 2010 4:52 PM EST

Do you specifically want a tank for melee, or are you talking about any melee? my character is right at your size and also operates only in melee (except for the free ranged HoC shot) and I'm having moderate success (7 person fightlist, challenge bonuses ranging from 40-70%)

Demigod November 30 2010 5:01 PM EST

Natasha' -- My char is also melee only.

How much GA? I consider it a great ranged weapon.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] November 30 2010 5:06 PM EST

Base GA ^_^ but after the RoS boost its 8 mil

Charity November 30 2010 5:10 PM EST

Whoa. We can consider GA to be a ranged weapon?

QBOddBird November 30 2010 5:12 PM EST

wrong account. -.-

horseguy001 November 30 2010 5:16 PM EST

GA is a pretty potent weapon...in all rounds of combat :)

Now I just need to lobby admins to get rid of the RoBF hehe

Pwned November 30 2010 5:27 PM EST

Melee as in physical and not DD. Someone who uses a weapon as their main damage in melee.

Pwned November 30 2010 5:28 PM EST

Exactly like OB's Scarlet

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 30 2010 5:31 PM EST

Did you completely miss the almost all melee tourney I just ran?

Pwned November 30 2010 5:32 PM EST

Yea I did DARN-IT was it good?

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 30 2010 5:36 PM EST

brutal... only one person finished due to an extra harsh rule...
but there were actually targets for a dex heavy melee tank all the way up... not great ones maybe, but targets none the less.

Pwned November 30 2010 5:39 PM EST

Could we have a physical melee only tourney? Email me please if that happens I wouldnt want to miss that.

I want a Dex heavy melee tank as a regular char. :(

Kefeck November 30 2010 6:03 PM EST

This guys seems to be doing pretty well :D

http://www.carnageblender.com/inspect_opponent.tcl?opponent_id=139923&opponent_name=The+Color+Morale

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] November 30 2010 8:16 PM EST

This guys seems to be doing pretty well :D http://www.carnageblender.com/inspect_opponent.tcl?opponent_id=139923&opponent_name=The+Color+Morale

Exbow need i say more

AdminTitan November 30 2010 9:05 PM EST

I believe melee became a viable strat about 10 years ago. Next question!

Pwned November 30 2010 9:45 PM EST

I believe melee became a viable strat about 10 years ago. Next question!

I dont get it...?

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] November 30 2010 10:08 PM EST

I see....so if I spend millions of CBD into both ranged and melee... I would own...

in the eight years i have been playing it has always been pretty common knowledge that melee weapons need nw to compete. there are more economical choices.

going melee as an economical choice will always be weaker than melee with nw and most other economical choices. it would be virtually impossible to balance it any other way as far as i can see.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 30 2010 11:37 PM EST

I believe he's saying melee never stopped being viable

Kefeck November 30 2010 11:45 PM EST

Exbow need i say more

And I'm still being farmed for over 600 each and every day. If it's so OP explain that one?

*Goes to look at your strat*

Ha, a RoBF you've got no room to talk lol ;P

Pwned December 1 2010 12:48 AM EST

LOl Kefeck nice one

QBJohnnywas December 1 2010 4:02 AM EST

Melee works at higher level, but you need VA, a trollskin and or lots of HP. Tattoo isn't necessary providing your damage dealer can last.

You do need big enough weapons though.

I consider my team a melee based team, despite the archery and bow. They dont win me many battles. And I can and have run without a tattoo, without losing too many off the fighting.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] December 1 2010 7:53 AM EST

And I'm still being farmed for over 600 each and every day. If it's so OP explain that one? *Goes to look at your strat* Ha, a RoBF you've got no room to talk lol ;P

Best part is i can change that tattoo to just about anything and have the same fightlist as I do now Goes to show that I have a solid strat backed by an robf

Kefeck December 1 2010 8:03 AM EST

Best part is i can change that tattoo to just about anything and have the same fightlist as I do now Goes to show that I have a solid strat backed by an robf

I"m just just as versatile if not even more so. Heck, I'm setup right now where I could switch any of my weapons and gain a whole new set of targets for every day of the week.

Kefeck December 1 2010 8:19 AM EST

Melee works at higher level, but you need VA, a trollskin and or lots of HP. Tattoo isn't necessary providing your damage dealer can last.

Completely agree, although some of what you said was kind of self explanatory. For example if this topic was about winning in ranged the equivalent would be to train fireball lol ;p.

You do need big enough weapons though.

Surprisingly not as large as you would think with items like the shield of capacity out there. But yes other then that you need very large weapons for melee to work. Especially in the +, seems everyone and there mom has a pair of DB's that are larger than 150.

AdminTitan December 1 2010 8:51 AM EST

If Zen had his money in a BoNE instead of Elbow, and BL instead of archery, he'd be doing like 3x damage per hit. SCARY!

QBJohnnywas December 1 2010 9:21 AM EST

Kef,

might be self explanatory to some, but it's surprising how many people don't get their heads around the basics.

A thought: If your tank can last a long time then the weapons don't need to be HUGE, just big enough. The more damage you can survive the more you can dish out.

AdminTitan December 1 2010 9:25 AM EST

Imagine if Zen could live till melee, 20M damage a round would be awesome, lol.

Kefeck December 1 2010 9:26 AM EST

Imagine if Zen could live till melee, 20M damage a round would be awesome, lol.

Don't be giving him idea's for his next ncb ;P lol

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] December 1 2010 11:10 AM EST

3x his damage wouldn't be 20 mil a round. It would be 60 mil a round before reductions. He had already passed the 20 mil a round mark in ranged.

AdminTitan December 1 2010 11:23 AM EST

That's awesome...

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] December 1 2010 11:33 AM EST

sssh!

Shadow Ruler December 1 2010 11:46 AM EST

Yes, but thats not taking into account for the quad hits that the elbow could do. x3 or x4? :P

Demigod December 1 2010 11:52 AM EST

I'd like to see more melee bruisers. Zen, do it. :)

Pwned December 1 2010 12:11 PM EST

me 2 Zen go for it!!!!

Pwned December 1 2010 12:16 PM EST

For my character though, I just cant seem to make it work. The two enchanters and a tank would seem the logical setup to success but to no avail.

AdminTitan December 1 2010 12:17 PM EST

AC, you need AC, maybe even PL, probably SS, you can live to melee, it's possible.

horseguy001 December 1 2010 2:59 PM EST

Melee isn't just for tanks anyways. Decay mages + weapon slinging enchanters FTW :)

AdminNightStrike December 1 2010 10:54 PM EST

I have two melee tanks and I do pretty well....

Demigod December 1 2010 11:04 PM EST

RoBF doesn't count.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] December 1 2010 11:05 PM EST

he fought tatless for years

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] December 1 2010 11:06 PM EST

tatless, naked and alone! ; )

Zenai December 1 2010 11:30 PM EST

I'd like to see more melee bruisers. Zen, do it. :)

Give me some time to play around with stuff on the lower levels and ummm yeah Ill do it!

AdminNightStrike December 1 2010 11:45 PM EST

he fought tatless for years

ROE FTW :)

I still can, btw. Most RBF users I talk to only need it for one or two people on their list.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] December 1 2010 11:47 PM EST

When I dropped RoBF it made me stalemate against 2 people I could previously beat. But my new tat let me add 2 new people.

Demigod December 1 2010 11:50 PM EST

8 million GA does that. Now let's see Dudemus strip the RoBF and fight. :)
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