Questions on defensive fights (in General)


Admiralkiller [Cult of the Valaraukar] February 12 2011 11:17 PM EST

I have a few questions about defensive battles

How does xp/gold gain work with win/losses/draws.

How many may 1 character have and is it per person or is there a set amount of losses/draws allowed or is it a set number of losses/draws per person. Or is it a set amount in a certain period of time. Would it reset if I hit train?

Is it a full 100% xp/money gain of a normal win/draw.

Would a challenge bonus apply?
Clan bonus apply?
Would xp/gold gain be with a bonus during xp/money times?
N*B bonus apply?

I have gotten some info but if possible I would like a full explanation of how it works.

There may be things I forgot or am not thinking of that may be important for my brain as it lacks info.....not on just this subject I assure you.

Potatoes!

Vicious Cat February 13 2011 5:38 AM EST

Is it a full 100% xp/money gain of a normal win/draw.

No

Admiralkiller [Cult of the Valaraukar] February 13 2011 2:59 PM EST

More info please.

Fishead February 13 2011 3:28 PM EST

If you want to loose to me (though you'd probably have to be naked and untrain GA), I'd be happy to tell you what happens in defensive and offensive wins.

Unappreciated Misnomer February 13 2011 5:23 PM EST

Chacynun (F) (+) (Farm) blackmage Draw 8 5:15 PM EST
Chacynun (F) (+) (Farm) blackmage Draw 8 5:14 PM EST
Chacynun (F) (+) (Farm) blackmage Draw 8 5:14 PM EST
Chacynun (F) (+) (Farm) blackmage Draw 8 5:13 PM EST
Chacynun (F) (+) (Farm) blackmage Draw 8 5:13 PM EST
Chacynun (F) (+) (Farm) blackmage Draw 8 5:12 PM EST
Chacynun (F) (+) (Farm) blackmage blackmage 7 5:12 PM EST
Chacynun (F) (+) (Farm) blackmage blackmage 7 5:11 PM EST
Chacynun (F) (+) (Farm) blackmage Draw 8 5:11 PM EST


yields 2,412 Experience

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] February 13 2011 5:27 PM EST

Also let it be known that I discovered that only 3 defensive wins count before it stops counting them. I've only observed it against a single person and not multiple people so I don't know if its on a per person basis or not.

Also haven't had that many draws to be able to find out how many of those give xp.

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] February 13 2011 5:32 PM EST

To clarify what I just said (god we need an edit button for certain forums) That's 3 defensive wins in a row without you doing anything, such as training or attacking in between getting defensive wins.

Say I get 6 defensive wins off someone in a row (which I have before) It only counted 3 of them, and I netted about 3.2k exp from it. That would be right in line with the rewards I get for a regular win.

As far as bonuses go, I believe both xp/money time DO affect the gains, as I've been attacked during money time before and won but got a very small amount of xp for it which would be the equivalent to what I would get if I attack someone during money time.

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] February 13 2011 5:35 PM EST

Xeno is right it's like three or four and then They stop counting..

That's why I hire for three to four defensive losses during exp times when I run ncb"s.

Unappreciated Misnomer February 13 2011 5:54 PM EST

The gaps in the time line much slacken things up, BHT jut attacked my character blackmage and lost, I gained a whopping 370 exp. even when i tried fighting with that charater at 71% challenge bonus i could only muster 275 exp.

Unappreciated Misnomer February 13 2011 6:12 PM EST

all im saying beyond the draws, is someone half my size loses and gives me more exp to my farm than i could get with a challenge bonus

QBOddBird February 13 2011 11:20 PM EST

Also haven't had that many draws to be able to find out how many of those give xp.

Draws always give XP. When the NCB was made, I started up a group of NCBs drawing against each other (back when draws gave you 50% of fight rewards) and doing that only, to achieve 100% challenge bonus as far as possible and to remove the necessity of finding new targets. :P

Needless to say, draw rewards were nerfed shortly thereafter.

Admiralkiller [Cult of the Valaraukar] February 16 2011 7:31 PM EST

More info. I would like to have exact numbers or facts if possible.

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] February 16 2011 8:01 PM EST

43 defensive wins over the course of 24 hours without me doing anything to it gave one of my mules exactly 7 defensive wins that counted >_> if that helps any.

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