Tim Tebow (in Off-topic)


Goku January 12 2012 6:24 PM EST

Broncos starting QB 2 time ncaa national champ.

oh and he likes to pray.

Discuss

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] January 12 2012 6:28 PM EST

Next in line for late night gym equipment: The TeBowFlex!

Demigod January 12 2012 6:41 PM EST

Not much to say -- it's impossible for him to live up to the massive level of hype.

Lord Bob January 12 2012 6:50 PM EST

Discuss
No.

QBRanger January 12 2012 7:22 PM EST

He is one of the rare people who actually make those around him better.

Lord Bob January 12 2012 7:44 PM EST

No.
I retract my no. Here's an article.
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/12/what_if_tim_tebow_were_muslim/

QBRanger January 12 2012 8:49 PM EST

And you point in that article?

The US has changed a lot since Ali and the 60s.

And anyone not standing for the US national anthem is scum in my book. Be it Jewish, Christian, Hindu etc...

QBRanger January 12 2012 9:05 PM EST

LB:

This is a far better article, written by a former NFL player:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204124204577154601852713394.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

Goku January 12 2012 9:18 PM EST

odd we have a talk about Vick a convicted fellon and we almost all speak about his on field play but nothing in 7 posts is about Tebow as a player

QBRanger January 12 2012 9:21 PM EST

Did you actually read my 7:22 post?

Goku January 12 2012 9:26 PM EST

i considered that to broad considering his missionary work

Lord Bob January 12 2012 9:50 PM EST

And you point in that article?
It was posed in the article, and is actually a question.

And anyone not standing for the US national anthem is scum in my book.
I certainly understand why one would take this position. I disagree, on free speech grounds, but I understand it.

This is a far better article,
Better, no. But I certainly agree with the point made that it's foolish to attribute a football victory to a god.

From your article:
But seriously, isn't it refreshing that the chatter around the NFL is about a great athlete with great character who says and does all the right things and is a relentless leader for his teamï¾—and not about more arrests and bad behavior from our presumptive "heroes"?
Now, I have no idea about Tim's character. I learned about his tendency to pray from Goku's original post at 6:24. The second thing I ever read about him was the article I posted, which isn't anti-Tebow at all. I don't know who this guy is outside his name and the fact that he plays football. And I guess now I know he's big on religion. Tim could be a really great guy who just happens to be a devout Christian. Or he could be another preachy fanatical d-bag whose tremendous d-baggery is mistaken for "great character" by similar butt holes. I have no idea, so I'm not judging the guy.

But I completely agree that it's good to hear from a guy that isn't getting arrested all the time for criminal behavior.

It does not subtract from the point raised by the question in the article I posted.

Mikel [Bring it] January 12 2012 9:55 PM EST

Him being a Christian and showing it on the field is no reason for the media to attack him or harass him about it. He's not the first and won't be the last that shows it on the field. He's just currently the most popular.

He's his own person. I never get mad when I see Aaron Rodgers doing "the belt" or anyone else doing a move in the NFL, that's their business as long as it's NOT costing their team a penalty (aka Chad Johnson, Steve Johnson or TO's antics) then they can take a moment drop to a knee and thank their mommas for all I care.

To {cb2}Dinh, Tebow is not a Rookie, this is his second year.

Django January 12 2012 10:41 PM EST

Tim Tebow is a great athlete and one of the best competitors I have seen in sports in a long time. Great person on and off the field. Only thing is you do not know which Tebow performance is going to show up. The one where he throws a few int's and completes 2 passes or the crazy comebacks he pulls off. All in all he is a great athlete and hopefully becomes a better passer. I just read a poll done by espn that has been around for 18 years. Tebow was just voted most popular athlete. He is sure making an impact.

BestNUB January 12 2012 10:55 PM EST

So when do we get to talk about Kobe? :P

Eliteofdelete [Battle Royale] January 12 2012 11:07 PM EST

When he grows a pair.

BestNUB January 12 2012 11:09 PM EST

I think he grew 5 :)P

Django January 12 2012 11:12 PM EST

Can we get back to Tebow please, Kobe is not worth talking about.

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] January 12 2012 11:16 PM EST

My gripe with tebow is his accuracy.. I think he's at like 48% for the season?? That is so bad lol..

Mikel [Bring it] January 13 2012 12:59 AM EST

48% Stats are only important to Fantasy Footballers. To the guys that actually play, the only stats that are important are W's.

Besides, those filpino's are tough and they never give up. Ask Manny.

Goku January 13 2012 11:41 AM EST

Tebow is a better man then player and maybe thats a good thing?

QBRanger January 13 2012 11:46 AM EST

Again,

While he may be an average NFL QB, he elevates the rest of his team.

A true "leader" in every sense of the word.

He did the exact same thing at Florida.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] January 13 2012 1:35 PM EST

Know what's just as odd Goku? Tebow and Vick are nearing interchangeable players between the two on many grounds.

He is one of the rare people who actually make those around him better.
is a great athlete and one of the best competitors I have seen in sports in a long time.
Like EVERY other QB in the NFL! Sign the back of this reality check would you please?! QB Cassel of KC pulled a near perfect completion rate in the 4th quarter for a win over Dallas, but you would never know. On that same note the Romocoaster almost top 10'd for QBs this year in league stats, but who would care. Does anyone reading this know who Philip Rivers is without google?
btw i googled...

Him being a Christian and showing it on the field is no reason for the media to attack him or harass him about it.
Media has held him in highest regards and won a poll for "Who would you want to be your neighbor?" over Jennifer Aniston.
A true "leader" in every sense of the word.
Tom Brady and true leaders don't need an exceptional leg-it game to keep the boat afloat.

Pay no mind that I'm poking the usual debate combatants. This is knot political. Now for the personal opinion.
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Tim Tebow is a Kardashian showing limited yet very entertaining results for 18 mins, but he's got Beiber fever PR from fundies. Am more willing to accept his ESPN flash pan fame is by that awesome God given name than by his squeaker wins and faith. Broncos fans should be excited, but barely getting by should not give one super happy expectations.
P.S. For the love of the one we Tebow to wish some would not give this guy zealous merit for the more common place acts. Be amazed at how hype and scandal can detract and distract from the big picture so consistently across broad sport fan bases. Be amazed.

QBRanger January 13 2012 2:02 PM EST

To me he is the antithesis of Terrell Owens.

That alone is good enough for me.

Does anyone reading this know who Philip Rivers is without google?

I think anyone who follows football and/or plays fantasy football knows who Rivers is.

In fact, I think more people in the US know who Rivers is than know who is the VP of the US.

Lochnivar January 13 2012 2:15 PM EST

In fact, I think more people in the US know who Rivers is than know who is the VP of the US.

I don't think you're right, but I have no confidence in saying you're wrong, and that's kinda sad.

QBOddBird January 13 2012 4:25 PM EST

I think Tebow's a cool enough guy, and a very strong athlete. I don't know why he is a QB, though.

He certainly makes a convincing stand for his faith. When I watch him throw the football, and when I see his rate of completions, I can't help but think to myself "there must be /some/ sort of divine intervention going on for them to still be winning."

QBRanger January 13 2012 5:14 PM EST

OB,

He was the same way at FL. However, watching the Pitt game, his long throws were pretty accurate especially the last one when he hit the receiver on the run and led him.

Much better than throws one sees from Sanchez or Moore. While his completion rate is not high, his yard per reception is quite nice and except for 1 game, he does not turn the ball over.

If they would run some screens and drop off passes, I am sure his completion rate would be over 60% but they typically throw longer as the defenses stack the line of scrimmage due to Denver's potent rushing attack.


Josh [Cult of the Valaraukar] January 13 2012 6:10 PM EST

Tebow changed his throwing motion when he entered the NFL and people dog him for his poor throws. I don't know very many things I could do one way my whole life, change, and then do just as well or better without a growing process.

Also, do to the lockout he did not have an off-season of coaching or working with his team this year. This being only his second year in the league. Very few QBs do well or even start their first two years in the league. He's starting, winning, and will only improve as a passer.

QBRanger January 13 2012 6:20 PM EST

Or he may be the next version of Vince Young.

IIRC, he took the league by storm winning games by smoke and mirrors. Then, after he was exposed, he quickly dropped from a first stringer to backup.

Only time will tell if Tebow is the real deal or just the beneficiary of great defense, a great running game and a lot of good luck.

Next year will be fun.

Josh [Cult of the Valaraukar] January 13 2012 7:36 PM EST

I can see where the similarities can be made to Vince Young in terms of performance they do have two completely different personalities which I think had a lot to do with how Vince Young turned out. I also don't think the Titans were winning because of Young but despite him. I don't feel that way with Tebow.

Bolfen January 14 2012 12:14 AM EST

Vince Young won enough games that he made the pro bowl twice. He was 8-2 as a starter in 2009.

Of course, then he got injured and pouted in 2010 and the fans and media turned on him. Amazing how fast public opinion can turn.

As for Tebow, he's a below average quarterback. But that's ok, he's only a 2nd year player. He has time to get better or worse. He had a fantastic game against the Steelers, which showed he can improve.

As for his record, the AFC West was putrid this year.
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