Random discussion topic of the week (in Debates)
Can something be both new and improved?
car new and improved same exact model base from 08 to 09 for example, and have a better powertrain...
new and improved
January 28 2012 11:57 AM EST
January 28 2012 12:19 PM EST
A newborn baby I guess, it's both new and an improved replica of you your wife.
January 28 2012 12:23 PM EST
and an improved replica of you your wife.
How do you figure this?
January 28 2012 12:28 PM EST
I guess my sons will have plenty of gender identity problems then :)
January 28 2012 12:47 PM EST
If something has been improved, there must therefore have been an inferior model, of the same thing.
If something is new, then there therefore can't have been a earlier model, of the same thing.
As for the car, it's not 'new', it's just the improved model, given a new name.
January 28 2012 1:00 PM EST
Windows 95 compared to Windows 3.1.
If 95 new? Yes and entirely new operating system.
Is it improved? yes, over the previous attempt at making a PC like an Apple.
Windows 95 was just an upgrade of Windows 3.1
Simultaneously with Windows 3.1's release, IBM started shipping OS/2 2.0. Microsoft realized they were in need of an updated version of Windows that could support 32-bit applications and preemptive multitasking, but could still run on low-end hardware (Windows NT did not). So the development of Windows "Chicago" was started and, as it was planned for a late 1993 release, became known as Windows 93. Initially the decision was made not to include a new user interface, as this was planned for Cairo, and only focus on making installation, configuration, and networking easier. Windows 93 would ship together with MS-DOS 7.0 offering a more integrated experience to the user and making it pointless for other companies to create DOS clones. MS-DOS 7.0 was in development at that time under the code name "Jaguar" and could optionally run on top of a Windows 3.1-based 32-bit protected mode kernel called "Cougar" in order to better compete with DR-DOS.
No. It depends on how you define new, whether something is
improved then it is a new version of something. If you think this means it is new, then new is redundant and you only need improved. If you do not think this means its new, then new and improved is wrong that way too.
January 28 2012 1:58 PM EST
Does not work the way you think it does.
January 28 2012 2:02 PM EST
Well, evolution _sorta_ works that way, it's just that from only one generation to the next, a mutation is likely to be more "bad" than good. Over time (as in thousands of generations), that "bad" thing may, in fact, become evolutionary; but your children aren't automatically "better" than you based on gene combination alone... You're thinking more about "acquired characteristics" which is definitely NOT the way it works.
January 28 2012 2:05 PM EST
Well, just like a new version of something isn't always improving the old one.
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