VA Questions (in General)


TH3 C0113CT0R February 15 2012 1:18 AM EST

Why does my VA not always proc, some battles it proc's every hit some battles it proc's only on the first hit, some battles hit and miss.

EG #1
Melee Combat
Tank pulverized melchizedek [174,506]
Tank draws strength from his weapon! [22777]
Tank pulverized melchizedek [36,771]
Tank pulverized melchizedek [40,141]
melchizedek's Magic Missile hit MWall [59,914]
R.I.P. melchizedek

Tank bruised Mephisto [36,127]
Tank draws strength from his weapon! [11962]
Tank crunched Mephisto [44,943]
Tank draws strength from his weapon! [14207]

Tank beat Mephisto [39,679]
Tank draws strength from his weapon! [13733]
Tank crunched Mephisto [36,139]
Tank draws strength from his weapon! [13680]

Tank fractured Mephisto [48,286]
Tank draws strength from his weapon! [14555]
Tank crunched Mephisto [32,271]
Tank draws strength from his weapon! [13029]

Tank fractured Mephisto [31,533]
Tank draws strength from his weapon! [12582]
Tank beat Mephisto [37,360]
Tank draws strength from his weapon! [13341]

Tank pulverized Mephisto [49,917]
Tank draws strength from his weapon! [2658]
Tank pulverized Mephisto [49,953]
R.I.P. Mephisto

It proc'd every hit on Mephisto except the last hit which doesn't matter since the battle was over. it proc'd on the double hits also.

but when hitting melchizedek it only proc'd on the first hit, not the second, and not the third.

BestNUB February 15 2012 1:24 AM EST

It doesn't draw if the minion is already dead. Your first hit killed the first minion and it draws based on damage done but is capped at the amount of HP the opposing minion does. Same goes for the last hit on the second minion, where you only leeched 2658.

BestNUB February 15 2012 1:24 AM EST

*Amount of HP the opposing minion has.

QBRanger February 15 2012 1:27 AM EST

Like GA, VA will only work if the target has HP remaining.

The first hit on melchizede killed that minion therefore there were no more HP to VA.

Vs Mephisto, that minion had hp all the way to the last hit, which of course killed that minion and ended the battle.

Also, if you look at the % hp you leeched, for Mephisto it's 30-40% except the last 2 hits. The 2nd to last killed that minion, the very last the minion was already dead.

Vs melchizede you only did 13% which means tha minion was pulverized by your first hit.

TH3 C0113CT0R February 15 2012 1:56 AM EST

No, My first hit didn't kill him. how could it have. My second hit didn't kill him either, it won't let me hit a dead character 3 times.

EG #1
Melee Combat
Tank pulverized melchizedek [174,506]
Tank draws strength from his weapon! [22777]
Tank pulverized melchizedek [36,771]
Tank pulverized melchizedek [40,141]
melchizedek's Magic Missile hit MWall [59,914]
R.I.P. melchizedek

My first hit, leech, second hit, no leech not dead, third hit dead. i can understand my third hit not leeching. as i even stated. but the second hit should leech.

TH3 C0113CT0R February 15 2012 2:03 AM EST

I know that you can't leech from a dead character.... but my point is i see this second hit not leeching in multiple battles, against a few people.

TH3 C0113CT0R February 15 2012 2:06 AM EST

Oh and ranger im pretty sure it only leeched 13% because my VA isn't trained high enough for the damage done.

TH3 C0113CT0R February 15 2012 2:08 AM EST

my VA is only trained to lvl 107k which is just over half of the 177k damage done.

TH3 C0113CT0R February 15 2012 2:12 AM EST

EG#2
Tank crushed melchizedek [128,527]
Tank draws strength from his weapon! [23716]
Tank pulverized melchizedek [40,535]
melchizedek's Magic Missile hit MWall [64,470]
R.I.P. melchizedek

THIS battle the second hit killed him. the EG#1 the second hit did not kill him. Im not crazy, something else is at play or a glitch is in place, I should eithe be leeching on the second hit, or Im hitting a dead minion multiple times for no reason.

TH3 C0113CT0R February 15 2012 2:14 AM EST

EG#3
Tank crushed Clint [139,398]
Tank draws strength from his weapon! [13187]
Tank crushed Clint [47,197]
Tank crushed Clint [33,036]
Clint's Magic Missile hit MWall [53,094]
Casey's Cone of Cold hit Enchanter [29,897], Wall [20,454], Tank [22,896], MWall [20,548]
MWall absorbs damage [29,897]
MWall absorbs damage [20,454]
MWall absorbs damage [22,896]
R.I.P. Clint

First hit, leech, second hit, no leech, third hit dead.

BestNUB February 15 2012 2:21 AM EST

You can still hit a dead minion if you have enough cth. It's not going to let you hit the next minion. First hit kills the minion and you leech accordingly. The next 2 hits do not do anything. You should post how much the enchanter casts for AS as well.

BestNUB February 15 2012 2:24 AM EST

Hildegarde cast Ablative Shield on melchizedek (150,441)

I am also guessing that you reached your max HP on the times that you did not hit over his full HP, thus you don't get any more HP from the leech.

TH3 C0113CT0R February 15 2012 2:24 AM EST

that makes no sense at all, so picture my character beating on a dead body... come on.. that dumb. if the first hit kills the minion, round over just like eg#2. If i have enough cth for 5 hits, and the first hit kills the minion my character is going to hit the dead character 4 more times... what just to make sure its dead....

TH3 C0113CT0R February 15 2012 2:26 AM EST

and if that were true then why don't i triple hit on that character every time..

BestNUB February 15 2012 3:19 AM EST

if his AS only casts for 60k against you, then why would you do 240k damage on a minion with 60k HP? The answer should be fairly obvious, you can still hit the minion in the same round even if you kill it.

BestNUB February 15 2012 3:21 AM EST

The math also works out. If you notice on all your attacks you're draining about 1/3 of the damage done except when the target's HP is lower than your damage. If you say 60k is what his AS casts for, then your first hit should be around 20k no matter what your damage is.

Quyen February 15 2012 10:23 AM EST

If i have enough cth for 5 hits, and the first hit kills the minion my character is going to hit the dead character 4 more times... what just to make sure its dead....

Yeah.. or it would mean that high damage/multi hits is even more dangerous than it already is.
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