Elven Stilietto Usage Question (in General)


Mikel [Bring it] July 15 2012 9:54 PM EDT

Checking the fight that I have with EOD using his against me. It appears that the bleeding is continuously rising in damage rather than bleeding the 20% at the end of each round. Also it by passes PL, which is not listed in the Wiki.

Melee Combat
Stewart mistimed his attack at Thy
Sting's blow was dodged by Thy
Roxanne's blow was dodged by Thy
Andy mistimed his attack at Thy
Stewart burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (333,776)
Sting absorbs damage [333,776]
Thy burns from the flames surrounding Roxanne (1,415,354)
Thy shot Stewart [57,045]
Sting absorbs damage [57,045]
Thy hit Stewart [80,739]
Sting absorbs damage [80,739]
Get hit Stewart [107,758]
Sting absorbs damage [107,758]
Get hit Stewart [163,800]
Sting absorbs damage [163,800]
-Epitaph scratched Stewart [145,033]
Sting absorbs damage [145,033]
-Epitaph scratched Stewart [140,896]
Sting absorbs damage [140,896]
Bearings scratched Stewart [358,868]
Sting absorbs damage [358,868]
Bearings glanced off of Stewart [196,829]
Sting absorbs damage [196,829]
Stewart bleeds from his deep wounds (168,323)
Sting regenerated 445,370 HP

Stewart's blow was dodged by Thy
Sting's blow was dodged by Thy
Roxanne stumbled swinging at Thy
Andy swung wildly at Thy
Stewart burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (523,492)
Sting absorbs damage [523,492]
Thy burns from the flames surrounding Roxanne (1,780,067)
-Epitaph scratched Stewart [138,529]
Sting absorbs damage [138,529]
-Epitaph glanced off of Stewart [139,176]
Sting absorbs damage [139,176]
Bearings scratched Stewart [188,774]
Sting absorbs damage [188,774]
Bearings glanced off of Stewart [233,286]
Sting absorbs damage [233,286]
Stewart bleeds from his deep wounds (308,274)
Sting regenerated 445,370 HP

Stewart stumbled swinging at Thy
Sting stumbled swinging at Thy
Roxanne scratched Thy for no damage
Andy's blow was dodged by Thy
Stewart burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (397,754)
Sting absorbs damage [397,754]
Thy burns from the flames surrounding Roxanne (1,651,807)
Thy shot Stewart [61,452]
Sting absorbs damage [61,452]
Thy hit Stewart [81,641]
Sting absorbs damage [81,641]
Get shot Stewart [113,693]
Sting absorbs damage [113,693]
-Epitaph glanced off of Stewart [140,650]
Sting absorbs damage [140,650]
-Epitaph glanced off of Stewart [120,735]
Sting absorbs damage [120,735]
Bearings glanced off of Stewart [275,289]
Sting absorbs damage [275,289]
Bearings glanced off of Stewart [306,677]
Sting absorbs damage [306,677]
Stewart bleeds from his deep wounds (476,943) Thy bleeds from his deep wounds (0)
Sting regenerated 445,370 HP

Stewart mistimed his attack at Thy
Sting swung wildly at Thy
Roxanne scratched Thy for no damage
Andy's blow was dodged by Thy
Stewart burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (329,359)
Sting absorbs damage [329,359]
Thy burns from the flames surrounding Roxanne (1,770,410)
-Epitaph scratched Stewart [123,725]
Sting absorbs damage [123,725]
-Epitaph glanced off of Stewart [137,497]
Sting absorbs damage [137,497]
Bearings gashed Stewart [287,585]
Sting absorbs damage [287,585]
Bearings glanced off of Stewart [200,754]
Sting absorbs damage [200,754]
Stewart bleeds from his deep wounds (626,854) Thy bleeds from his deep wounds (0)
Sting regenerated 445,370 HP

Stewart's blow was dodged by Thy
Sting's blow was dodged by Thy
Roxanne swung wildly at Get
Andy's blow was dodged by Get
Stewart burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (242,409)
Sting absorbs damage [242,409]
Thy burns from the flames surrounding Roxanne (1,728,661)
Thy shot Stewart [84,050]
Sting absorbs damage [84,050]
Thy shot Stewart [116,988]
Sting absorbs damage [116,988]
Get hit Stewart [126,148]
Sting absorbs damage [126,148]
-Epitaph glanced off of Stewart [116,929]
Sting absorbs damage [116,929]
-Epitaph scratched Stewart [128,755]
Sting absorbs damage [128,755]
Bearings sliced into Stewart [297,792]
Sting absorbs damage [297,792]
Bearings hacked Stewart [245,080]
Sting absorbs damage [245,080]
Stewart bleeds from his deep wounds (784,564) Thy bleeds from his deep wounds (0)
Sting regenerated 445,370 HP
R.I.P. Thy

Stewart's blow was dodged by Get
Sting mistimed his attack at Get
Roxanne swung wildly at Get
Andy swung wildly at Get
Stewart burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (305,430)
Sting absorbs damage [305,430]
Get burns from the flames surrounding Roxanne (3,337,970)
-Epitaph scratched Stewart [96,127]
Sting absorbs damage [96,127]
-Epitaph rent Stewart [136,834]
Sting absorbs damage [136,834]
Bearings lacerated Stewart [319,927]
Sting absorbs damage [319,927]
Bearings clove Stewart [205,528]
Sting absorbs damage [205,528]
Stewart bleeds from his deep wounds (936,245)
Sting regenerated 445,370 HP
R.I.P. Stewart

Sting swung wildly at Get
Roxanne swung wildly at Get
Andy swung wildly at Get
Sting burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (2,149,813)
Get burns from the flames surrounding Roxanne (3,412,654)
Get's shot ricocheted near Sting
-Epitaph glanced off of Sting [185,521]
Sting's Guardian Angel smote -Epitaph (102,156)
Bearings scratched Sting [435,265]
Sting's Guardian Angel smote Bearings (224,386)
Sting bleeds from his deep wounds (124,157)
Sting regenerated 445,370 HP

Sting swung wildly at Get
Roxanne's blow was dodged by -Epitaph
Andy swung wildly at -Epitaph
Sting burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (1,968,203)
Get burns from the flames surrounding Roxanne (3,028,856)
-Epitaph scratched Sting [203,020]
Sting's Guardian Angel smote -Epitaph (110,668)
Bearings scratched Sting [398,634]
Sting's Guardian Angel smote Bearings (207,860)
Sting bleeds from his deep wounds (244,487)
Sting regenerated 445,370 HP
R.I.P. Get

Sting stumbled swinging at -Epitaph
Roxanne swung wildly at -Epitaph
Andy swung wildly at -Epitaph
Sting burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (1,892,358)
-Epitaph burns from the flames surrounding Roxanne (3,521,081)
-Epitaph mistimed his attack at Sting
Bearings glanced off of Sting [397,229]
Sting's Guardian Angel smote Bearings (206,130)
Sting bleeds from his deep wounds (323,932)
Sting regenerated 445,370 HP

Sting mistimed his attack at -Epitaph
Roxanne stumbled swinging at -Epitaph
Andy stumbled swinging at -Epitaph
Sting burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (2,058,967)
-Epitaph burns from the flames surrounding Roxanne (3,035,873)
-Epitaph glanced off of Sting [148,039]
Sting's Guardian Angel smote -Epitaph (81,503)
Bearings clove Sting [407,393]
Sting's Guardian Angel smote Bearings (210,025)
Sting bleeds from his deep wounds (435,017)
Sting regenerated 445,370 HP

Sting's blow was dodged by -Epitaph
Roxanne swung wildly at Bearings
Andy swung wildly at Bearings
Sting burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (2,005,136)
-Epitaph burns from the flames surrounding Roxanne (3,459,096)
-Epitaph mistimed his attack at Sting
Bearings stumbled swinging at Roxanne
Sting bleeds from his deep wounds (435,017)
Sting regenerated 445,370 HP
R.I.P. Sting R.I.P. -Epitaph

Roxanne swung wildly at Bearings
Andy stumbled swinging at Bearings
Roxanne burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (2,018,938)
Bearings burns from the flames surrounding Roxanne (2,225,023)
Bearings dislimbed Roxanne [468,019]
Roxanne's Guardian Angel smote Bearings (128,544)
Roxanne bleeds from his deep wounds (93,603)
R.I.P. Roxanne

Andy stumbled swinging at Bearings
Andy burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (2,138,734)
Bearings gashed Andy [433,082]
Andy's Guardian Angel smote Bearings (219,142)
Bearings rent Andy [392,162]
Andy's Guardian Angel smote Bearings (204,132)
Andy bleeds from his deep wounds (165,048)

Andy swung wildly at Bearings
Andy burns from the flames surrounding Bearings (2,236,730)
Andy bleeds from his deep wounds (165,048)

As you can see against Sting it keeps rising every round, even though the damage remains the same and stings' HP actually starts decreasing naturally as well.

Can I get a little more clarification as to how the bleeding works? I'm thinking about beefing mine up if this is how it works.

Mikel [Bring it] July 15 2012 9:59 PM EDT

I meant against Stewart you can see how it keeps ramping up to where it's does just below 1 mil in damage.

But then it seems to cap out vs the other minions.
(435,017 vs Sting) and (165,048 vs Andy), not so sure about Roxanne.

TH3 C0113CT0R July 15 2012 10:01 PM EDT

I was under the impression that the number in brackets is the total poison damage done over the ENTIRE battle not per round.

Gohan [Ka-Tet of the Serene] July 15 2012 10:25 PM EDT

Yeah, when this weapon was introduced we did a bunch of testing and concluded that the bracketed damage is just a total of sorts, telling you how much bleed damage that character took. Our overall results were inconclusive though as to whether or not you continue bleeding after the ES wielding minion dies.

As to it bypassing PL, only the bleed damage bypasses and it was found during initial testing, and must have been missed when everything was added to the wiki.

Gohan [Ka-Tet of the Serene] July 15 2012 10:30 PM EDT

ES Changelog Reference thread

Waldo July 16 2012 12:15 AM EDT

actually if you look at my post in the changelog you will see that bleed damage killed a minion long after all other damage sources were gone. It seems that the number in brackets is A: the total regular damage the ES has done to that minion (regardless if PL absorbed the damage or not) and B: the amount of damage that the bleed actually does to the minion that round.

Waldo July 16 2012 12:18 AM EDT

correction-A: 20% of the total regular damage...

Eliteofdelete [Battle Royale] July 16 2012 12:47 AM EDT

ES acts as a poison based on 20% of what it hits.

Say it hits for 100k damage, then the minion will take 20k "poison" damage every round till the fight is over.

If it hits again for 100k damage, then the minion will be poison an additional 20k, so 40k for every around till the battle is over.

This will continue to stack up till the minion dies or the battle is over. Basically it acts as a type of RoBF, requiring a delay strategy.

Gohan [Ka-Tet of the Serene] July 16 2012 12:51 AM EDT

The minion doesnt take the full bracketed bleed damage every round though. Because during that crazy tourney i had the bleed well into 2-3m damage and it didnt add up. Theres a hidden bleed effect somewhere.
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