The 700k score sticky point (in General)

Dathron [Dragon Court] March 15 2013 12:38 PM EDT

So, I'm running an ETM setup, focusing on the tank with a ToA. I know it's a pretty expensive plan to focus on a tank, but I'm sticking with it so far as it keeps things interesting trying to also upgrade items rather than just battle/train/battle/train etc. Anyway. I'm running now my second char with this basic set (first one used a ToE instead) and each time I've gotten stalled at around 700k score, 400k or so MPR. Is this simply because I've started to hit the characters that are still being played and/or have better set-ups? Or is this because I've caught up to my gear and I need to start buying more items/upgrading more stuff? I'm pretty sure I don't have every single item I need on my setup, but I keep getting confused going back and forth between two items that have different effects for similar outcomes, or things that I forget can't be worn together, and so on. I've now multiple times bought tattoo's forgetting that I can only wear one, haha. So anyway, would anyone be willing to look at my char Molotov's Crockpot and see if there's anything that jumps out to you that I should be working on? What are the items that I should be focusing on putting cash into upgrading? Or is this just a strategy that can't be done far past this score level without a big reserve of cash supporting it?

Thanks guys!

TheNatural March 15 2013 2:41 PM EDT

I'm running a fairly similar setup. I went from having a 100% bonus to having to fight around my own score at the 700k mark. That seems to be where characters get a lot better and unfortunately it's stayed that way up to 2.5mil.

Here's a couple pointers on your strat though:
-MM is Back to front damage and your tank does front to back. It's better to get your minions attacking the enemy in the same order to knock one of them out of the fight as soon as possible.
-Having both a ranged and melee weapon is waaay too expensive to maintain, I found. I was much better off picking one (in my case I chose melee) and sinking all my cash into upgrading that. Plus, that way all your upgrade money gets the bonus from your skill (Archery or Bloodlust).

I'm still pretty new myself. I'm sure others will have more pointers for you. Good luck!

Zenai [Ministry of Pain] March 15 2013 3:23 PM EDT

This may seem a bit pretentious but it is the rules I abide by at all times. They have helped me a lot and I hope they help you too.

Golden CB Rule: You do not have to be smarter than the next person just smarter than the situation you are dealing with.

First Rule of CB is that you will never beat everyone all the time or forever. Improvise, adapt and overcome if you can but don't get frustrated if you cannot. CB

Second Rule is Strategy is King, CB is the land of soft counters and your job is to find the right fit for you. Find a target opponent/strat and focus on that type of opponent/strat.

Third Rule is that if you confine yourself to game mechanics you have already set yourself up for failure. The human factor can be used to bend the games mechanics to your favor for the most part. Sometimes all you need is an item upgrade your fellow CBers can help you out with stuff like that.

Fourth Rule Keep your word, if you make a deal honor it however you can. You need to build up credit within the System the only way to do this is to be honest. This is extra necessary if you need to get that loan for an items upgrade etc.

Fifth Rule is plan plan plan ahead, stay focused it is easy to give up it is hard to stay the course because of getting sidetracked or disillusioned. There will always be setbacks it is up to you to think of a way around them. Asking for help in Forums, Chat or CMs/PMs is a great way to garner insight/knowledge. Also don't forget the Wiki it is your friend!

Now for your particular strat I would say you are spreading yourself thin focus on a target group. Start with who you would like to beat in the Top 15 and then find similar strats on the way down on the MPR Standings to get targets. Reacquaint yourself with the Wiki for basic info on everything and learn how to quick reference it to keep you up to snuff on your particular armor/weapons/skills/tat.

Again I hope this helps!

Dathron [Dragon Court] March 15 2013 3:47 PM EDT

Thanks guys. The point about MM not dealing damage in the same way as the tank is really helpful. I was wondering that myself, and was sort of only doing MM because the Wiki strategy I was working with suggested it; I'm still trying to find my strategy confidence, haha. CoC runs front-to-back correct? I'm definitely thinking I may switch to that.

Since I'm working with Archery (and I really like ranged) I'll probably focus on the bow, then. I don't know if I want to lose the melee completely, but yeah I agree on sinking most of my money into the bow instead.

Honestly, it's good to hear that you had the same change in difficulty running this kind of strat. I definitely had the same problem of going to 100% bonus to currently about 15% and it's still slowly dropping. As long as I'm not the only one! :)

Zenai, those are definitely good rules to live by. I still feel pretty far away from really using those rules, simply because I still feeling like I'm wandering a bit blind strategically. This helps though, that's a good point about spreading myself a bit thin.

Thanks guys! I'll mess around a bit and see what I can do. :)

Unappreciated Misnomer March 15 2013 3:48 PM EDT

rentals or long term loans are great to make the best of your ncb

Dathron [Dragon Court] March 16 2013 10:39 AM EDT

Okay, another question about my tank. I'm deciding to focus on Archery and my ELB, but I don't want to completely forgo melee. However, I am thinking that if I'm not focused on melee as much, that maybe my MH/SoC setup is a little excessive? Should I be looking for a different shield to go better with my ELB rather than looking for something that goes well with the melee weapon that's not even my primary weapon? Or is the SoC still useful enough that I should stick with it?
Thanks again all!
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