Xbox One (in Off-topic)

ThatOneMan June 10 2013 2:51 PM EDT

Does anyone follow next generation gaming information?

I just caught a little of the E3 and saw they announced a $499 launch price this November.

However, some of the commentator people were mentioning stuff that you can not re-sell/buy used games at like gamestop, you can't even rent games from redbox/blockbuster/gamefly, and also you can't even lend a game to a friend?

just wondering if anyone who follows knows what that is all about. That just seems really dumb to me. I usually like to try games before I actually buy them and then once i beat them or get bored of them I sell them.

SundariZelia [The Knighthood] June 10 2013 3:21 PM EDT

This is the newest info on how sharing, trading and such will work. I think the new system looks pretty cool and will most likely get one.

drudge June 10 2013 4:01 PM EDT

you can lend a game to a friend, and he cna play it, however, you both cant play that one game at the same time from diff locations (cause that would mean its copied)

Unappreciated Misnomer June 10 2013 4:42 PM EDT

That whole online drm, nsa monitoring thing is really pushing me for ps4 or a pc, but I've never owned an Xbox to start.

drudge June 10 2013 4:49 PM EDT

i was always PC for games. until i grew an extreme hatred for computers. now i play games with the 360. its fun. used games can be like $15 bucks too, hella cheap.

ThatOneMan June 10 2013 6:03 PM EDT

so is the part about renting games true then? with what i just read in that link I don't see a way they could have rentals :(

I very seldom buy a game without trying it first.

Unappreciated Misnomer June 10 2013 6:16 PM EDT

Hence borrowing was born

SundariZelia [The Knighthood] June 10 2013 6:18 PM EDT

There won't be rentals (at least at launch) but a lot of games do have demos.

Unappreciated Misnomer June 10 2013 6:21 PM EDT

Which killed borrowing. Terrible loss.

ThatOneMan June 10 2013 6:36 PM EDT


with borrowing, i dont have many friends that game. And the few that do are PC or PS3 lol

Demigod June 10 2013 6:42 PM EDT

I attended E3 last year, but I've been completely out of the loop this time around.

Despite being ill-informed, I would assume most of these heavy-handed changes are enforced at the discretion of the publisher. I also assume that some of these items will change as MS and Sony jockey for position in the world of PR. Regardless, here's a breakdown someone else made:

Eliteofdelete [Battle Royale] June 10 2013 11:44 PM EDT

I am surprise they are able to get away with not allowing people to sell games freely.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a high level court case on this issue in the future.

Demigod June 11 2013 7:28 AM EDT

They would have to break a law for that to happen. It's not unlawful, just unfriendly.

The kicker is that it's fully expected for PS4 to have their own aggressive controls. The winner of the console war may be the one who can spin it better in the public eye. Remember, the resell/rental market poses a larger loss of revenue to publishers than piracy.

Demigod June 11 2013 7:31 AM EDT

And the hilarity of war begins:

The Half-Dragon June 11 2013 9:57 AM EDT

Didn't wanna post about it since I'm a PC gamer anyway, but..
^That video. Hilarious. xD

ThatOneMan June 11 2013 8:15 PM EDT

PS4 is $100 bucks cheaper and has no restrictions on re selling and sharing.

dang it. i hope xbox one changes its mind and policy :(

Demigod June 19 2013 7:34 PM EDT

And round one is officially over.

Unappreciated Misnomer June 19 2013 8:16 PM EDT

They just unlocked your machine. Saved someone from making a key to disable these "features". And we still never found out who these special dealers for trading in games & their identities. Xbone had one thing. You could gift your game to a friend. Or trade it in for shit credit. Less waste in the world. How many times can I download the same game? Some ps3 games only allow a couple or a few downloads. EA uses keys for their games like dead space & ssx, some are one time or few uses.

SundariZelia [The Knighthood] June 20 2013 12:11 AM EDT

I liked the was it worked before better. Family game sharing would have saved Pit and I a lot of money especially as our kids get older. I feel like we lost more features than we gained with the reversal.

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] June 20 2013 2:31 PM EDT

@ Demigod

I totally called it. I knew that was going to happen. I forget which thread I posted it in but I definitely called them dropping their restrictions, let's see how far it goes ;P

Demigod June 20 2013 11:16 PM EDT

Ha! I'm pretty sure a lot of people called that one. There's no way MS could stay competitive otherwise, and the shareholders would have called for heads to roll. Heck, even the WiiU was starting to look good.

Mikel [Bring it] June 21 2013 1:26 AM EDT

Well the NSA wants to make sure you don't level up too fast and to check in every 24 hours....

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] June 21 2013 10:01 PM EDT

Oy vey..

Fishead June 22 2013 4:01 AM EDT

Just wait for that firmware update after a year or so.

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] June 22 2013 10:51 AM EDT

<-- Is getting a WiiU for the next LoZ game >_>... yeah that's pretty much the only reason.
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