Back at the start of the year I created a thread for discussion regarding whether or not a QB tag should be for life. There was debate, but no real consensus. I have my own opinion on this, but it's not mine that matters, it's yours!

Are we devaluing the QB tag to the extent that soon, if you've been here long enough, you're bound to get one?
Should a CarnageBlender QB tag be for life, or should it be like winning the championship? You've got it for the season until you either retain your trophy or hand it over to someone else.

This isn't quite a YES/NO deal so I've tried to come up with more than those two obvious options. These ideas don't belong to me, others have mentioned them in the past.

For the record:
This poll has nothing to do with the current QB nominees who are all great candidates and deserve their place up there with the rest of them.

Total of 187 votes


The user keeps the QB tag for a year whereupon their name is entered into a new "Hall of Fame" created speficifically for past QB's where they will be forever remembered. Every time a new round of QB nominations come around the user can be re-nominated for QB status and a further 12 months with the tag. 39.6
Once a QB, always a QB. End of story. 31.6
We only have one QB at any one time. The tag is reset at the end of the quarter and the nomination process starts again. QB's have their name entered into the "Hall of Fame" as per option 1. 25.1
None of the above, but G_Beee isn't smart enough to come up with what I'm thinking about as an option so I'll post it in comments below. 3.7

Comments

#3

First time for having the first comment. :D

Anyways, I think we should only have 1 QB at a time. Not sure why, but that just seems like the best way to honor the biggest contributor to the community. A Hall of Fame is a great idea, too, and I think it would be cool in a few years look back on everybody that was QB...

-- Tyriel

I think that it's a good idea for the QB tag to expire, but I do believe that all of our QBs have certainly deserved their title.

The thing is, most of the most active players - those who contribute a great deal and make a big difference in the community - have already gotten a QB. And those who haven't gotten a QB yet will certainly get one soon.

Many of those players who contribute a great deal can longer longer be recognized for the great work they are still putting into the game. For instance, some of the first QBs are still some of the most active, helpful players.

If the QB tag expires, then these wonderful players that continue to contribute can continue to be recognized for the work they do for the game.

Also, entirely different discussion, but I think admins should be eligible for receiving a QB. They put a great deal of time into the game, but as far as I know, they receive no thanks for what they do.

Hey there are more than two options now! When I voted (FIRST!) there were only two available. Good thing the one I wanted to vote for was there ;)

-- Maelstrom


A little biased possibly lol

I like the hall of fame thing, but....and I would be saying this if I didn't have the tag.....;)........I like the QB being like a medal that the recipient gets to wear forever!

Looking at the QBs we have, I suspect that if it was a temporary thing it would be the same people up for nomination time and time again. Ranger, Sut, Verifex, GL, Bast, Barzoo, OB, Pixel, Sefton, Pit Spawn.... If you were to make it temporary you would have to make it so that none of those people could be nominated again, otherwise it might make it difficult for anybody else to get a look in.

I mean seriously folks, would you want to be up against Ranger in a QB contest? Or Sefton? Or Barzoo?

Hall of Fame is cool, but if you're going to do that then why not QB tags forever?

And if QB is temporary make it a one time thing, so that up and coming people can get a chance for some recognition.

-- QBJohnnywas

this would have been second if I type faster

Personally I think that there should be more tags. I.E, ranger doesnt get QB, he instead gets some other type of tag which reflects the fact that he owns everyone else at this game. People who contribute to helping NUBs, people who are wiki addicts, people who are very active on the forums, all o fthese should merit different tags.

(To cut down on teh tag spam, we should only have one or two of each and they should be hard to obtain)

-- ScY

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-- 1 MINUTE 1

one year

Well, the concept of "Quarter".. it implies a quarter of a year. Which, in my fiscally oriented mind, is part of a year. So it resets after a year :P

Not sure if that was cogent or not.

-- Iluvatar[NK]

Once a QB, not always a QB

It isn't fair that those who left are still QBs, and I think 4 per year will end up with way too many to have a distinguished title, as I have seen even in my several quarters that the quality of QB nominees has gone down.

I voted for the first choice.

P.S. Seems GB is smarter than we thought.


-- th00p

#3

you were once a QB not always. plus not everyone is bound to get one just by being long enough. look at me i dont have one.

plus the another reason why i support #3 is because they and only they get recognition for a quarter for all the hard work they did to get that title. doesnt have the same effect if everyone still has the tag

-- Unappreciated Misnomer

did not really

do not really care what the hell happens to a QB tag and im surprised anyone would care!

-- drudge

qb

consider that it will always be the same people who gets the QB... i wonder whats the point there... the rest of the people will just give up

-- lostling

Once a QB

Always a QB.

-- 48xVanished48

Another thought: If a QB tag only lasts for a year, then it might encourage us to vote for the person that has been most deserving for the past quarter, as is intended.

Since so many people have QBs now, and so many people still deserve QBs, it seems almost as though we are voting the person who "should" get it next.

In other words, there is a focus now on recognizing the people who deserve a QB for all the work they've done in CB, but not necessarily this quarter.

That said, maybe we need another designation, YB (yearly blender), for the person who has helped the most over the past year. A YB would not expire, and would "overwrite" a QB if the recipient of a YB also currently held a QB. Oh, and a YB recipient would no longer be eligible for future QBs.

-- Maelstrom

well

why dont we have only 1 QB a year? overpopulate at a reduced rate

-- cookie dough

cake forsting:

because QB is Qurater blender and there are 4 Quarters in a year.

-- drudge

How about this...

QB tag taken away after a year but...

Quarterly survey is run for most popular existing QB. The most popular quarterly existing QB gets a 3 months extension to the default year duration.

So every quarter, a 'new' QB is elected and the most popular one stays for an extra 3 months.

-- Talion

1 QB every changemonth

You could make it so the same people can't be re-elected by making the winners ineligible for a full year where after that they can be put on the ballot again. Having it during the change month might make their suggestion of the popular question "what would you change" have more bearing ;)

-- sooka

Why not a different color? New QBs get a much brighter color compared to past QBs (i.e. bright red vs. dark red). Gives an impression of being newly nominated. I think having the QB tag on the front of the name is an honor that should never be taken away from those who deserved it.

-- xDanELx

QB

to me, QB has become devalued to the point that i honestly dont care...the only reason im responding to this poll is because i feel that the QB has turned into a popularity contest, with some bells and whistles. I used to be a huge member of the cb1 community, and a longstanding Cb2 member. ive seen every QB there ever was and i can only think of a few off the top of my head. Does anyone remember Knights of the Realm? I.E. Stump and Saint from cb1? thats how i pictured QB, i stopped paying attention to QB when people ive never even seen before, or people that i thought had quit, started popping up as nominees. I dont talk much anymore...i dont give my insightful wisdom like i used to, but damn...bring back the Knights of the Realm, and let QB be what it is...the popularity contest for the month. everytime i hear something about QB in chat...all i think of is Miss America.

-- DH

"i feel that the QB has turned into a popularity contest"

heh... funny you say that....

-- AdminNightStrike

Why not ...

have the QB's go through another nomination round to make a sort of yearly blender?

This makes 1/4th of the QB's then permanent instead. :)

-- AdminShade

Disgusting.

You all can say -everything- you want. But get this straight. EVERYONE who is QB or been nominated for the award deserved it to some degree. The fact that you call the QB devalued is sick and insulting. You want to honestly look me in the eye and tell me any one QB has done SOOOOOO much more for this game than any other?

Popularity contest, eh? EVERY QB award was given on popularity. I want to say this, to everyone. EVERY SINGLE QB deserved it.

As long as that's very, very, VERY clear to everyone, you can go on with your debate.


OH, and I voted the permanent thing, obviously. I could here for a Hall of Fame... but eh.

-- BootyGod

you could do soemthing like give them numbers next to the QB letting everyone know which QB they are QB1, QB2, QB3, etc...

-- smallpau1 - Go Blues

Knight of the Realm

DH, I really liked the old title as well. I stand in firm advocacy of the revival of KotR. If we were to make QB a transient award while concurrently reinstating permanent knighthood (granted yearly), it would be a feasible and acceptable compromise.

Granted, the veterans who would back a retro motion such as this would most likely be opposed and overwhelmed by the new bourgeoisie; still, I am inclined to adopt a dual-title motion.

-- Iluvatar[NK]

Forever

It's not entirely based on popularity, I remember on more than one occasion where the person with the most votes didn't get it.

-- Flamey

Once & Always

The title of QB hasn't devalued much, but voting has severely.
Hold this Miss America Pageant once a year or bring an end to this madness! ;)

-- A Lesser AR of 15

I feel the need to speak up again. Not on any of the choices laid out in this poll. But on the nature of the QBs that exist. There are only 12 QBs including me. (And I don't count myself in this thought I'm trying to get out of my head.)

12 out of so many players is actually a very small amount. And yet to me, most of the QBs seem ever present, involved in everything. I think it says a lot that the QBs who have been picked from the start of CB2 are all still active players. Some might be quieter than they have been. But all are still here. Still doing what they were doing to lesser or greater extents when they were nominated and chosen.

That doesn't seem to me a devaluation of the 'title'. If anything it justifies why they were chosen in the first place.



-- QBJohnnywas

Once then always

To new players, the 'QB' tag represents somebody who knows what they are talking about, and is willing to answer questions. Knowledge doesn't fade, and for the most part attitudes don't change, so I think that somebody who earns the QB tag has proved themselves worthy to keep the tag for an indefinite period (unless they specifically fall out of favour).

-- Devenger

discussion

my opinion is just what it is...my opinion..if you dont like it im sorry. but you say they all deserved it, i wont ever say they didnt,...but sometimes it seems like "oh novice got nominated AGAIN, i guess maybe this time we should pick him" i actually heard that comment...or near to it in chat the other day. Poor Nov, he was there too. thats one of the reasons i feel its devalued. some others were complaining about it being devalued as well...hence this poll on the NEWS comment.
dont feel like i attacked you directly Godwolf. i actually attacked Ranger...QB is intended to give Ranger an unfair advantage :P <3 Ranger (im just kidding)

-- DH

QBs rule

QBs for life! If they won once than they are cool and are good:)
why fire QBs after a year just because the year is up? More QBs=less chaos :)

-- RichardRahl{Kill Gun}

"And yet to me, most of the QBs seem ever present, involved in everything" -- QBJohnnyWas

The reason why people think the the QB is being devalued is because almost every second thread was started by a QB! You QBs just need to stop talking so much :P


"That doesn't seem to me a devaluation of the 'title'. If anything it justifies why they were chosen in the first place. " -- QBJohnnyWas

Absolutely!

-- Maelstrom

"You QBs just need to stop talking so much :P "

Quiet as a mouse, all of us. Oh, ok. Yeah. ;)

-- QBJohnnywas

Once a QB always a QB

I only chose this option because I disagree that anyone already with a tag deserves any more recognition than they already have.
The one huge problem I have is that so many QB's get their status without doing anything during the quarter in question. Sefton is one example of this, he is a great guy but the quarter he gained the QB he had rarely logged on, let alone contributed. A quarter blender should be as the name suggests, not past conribution as a few have been recognised for. The admins should automatically disregard anyone that has contributed very little regardless of the popular vote even if a lot of players who disregard the whole point of QB are annoyed.

-- Zoglog[T]

Maybe...

They do, Zog. In the case of Sefton getting QB, I think it was just common sense to give Sefton QB in that quarter. He had deserved it from long ago Not giving Sefton QB again could very well have caused some long standing issues that just weren't needed.

-- BootyGod

there was a time when included with the nomination was a reason for being nominated...

Maybe only those who already have a QB should be able to nominate people...

-- AdminQBnovice

Stump and Saint

Yeah, I remember Stump and Saint.

They aren't here any more.

What's your point again, DH?

-- QBsutekh137

the title was cool, Sut...thats all. and the fact that there were very few KotR made it cooler...thats all

-- DH

I miss Stump and saint a lot, they were there for me in CB1, when I was majorly active, we're talking maybe 20 BA didn't get used a day, damn that sleep!

I voted for #3 but having read all the argument I've forgotten what it was, and now thinik it shouldn't expire and there should be a hall of fame in order of the first QB to the most recent, sound fair?

-- [CB1]Kris

make it competitive

I think there should be only one. It should drive very active players to perform better, be even more helpful, excel in their character. Instead of being a license for lesser character and in-fighting as if it was some trophy held.

-- Revs

blah blah blah

Godwolf said: "blah blah blah... As long as that's very, very, VERY clear to everyone, you can go on with your debate."

STOP THE DEBATE - the only thing that is very, very, VERY clear to me is that the QB thing makes people act goofy.

And anyway, Ombudsman rulez teh QB HA!

-- NSFY

nsfy, i rule u

-- drudge

Zog,

What happened with Sefton's QB thing is an exact example of a very ugly side of the QB concept. As GW said, Sefton got it in an inactive quarter because if he didn't get it that time, it would have had a very bad outcome.

-- AdminNightStrike

How would it have had a very bad outcome?

-- Flamey

Crazy Idea

Lets have it vary from QB to QB. After a QB is named, there will be another poll, "Is this guy good enough to keep his/her QB tag after the next quarter?" the options would be Yes - He/she is a hero of CB and always will be. OR No- He/she is a partially retarded loser that just got lucky this quarter.

-- AvoidCXT

About the QB:

"QB stands for Quarter Blender. The QB is the person who truly represents what CB is. The QB is helpful in chat and forum, and usually does what they can to support the community. The QB is what makes CB what it is and part of the reason why we come back. The QB is a person who has already 'won' the game by making it better. It is just time for us recognize this publicly."

It's not a Popularity contest. As shown when a couple of times the 'popular' voted choice wasn't chosen.

JW has covered it all anyway.

For me (and I'm sure this holds for all the other QBs) the QB tag wasn't a competitive goal to work towards, and makig it such to gain, or to keep, would totally devalue it. It it comes to that, please feel free to take mine away and not record me in a Hall of Fame.

If we need a competitive tag to work towards, why not make a temporary tournament winner tag?

-- AdminQBGentlemanLoser

Once a QB, always a QB. End of story.

Once a QB, always a QB. End of story they are the peeps that make the game fun like that dosent ever change

-- TinTizzy