? problem with the COBF (in General)
QBRanger
February 1 2005 9:12 AM EST
Hi all,
I have a COBF +7 and noticed its sort of an all or nothing thing.
Here is a section of a battle I just had:
This part is just King Chuckles attack on me. Death is the minion with the COBF on.
In the first round Chuckles does a total of about 25.6k damage, to himself from an AMF and to my familiar.
In the second round my familiar is now dead so all the fireball goes to Death who takes over 30k damage. Should this not be reduced due to the +7 on the COBF 28k.
Ive noticed the same thing when I attack someone in melee who also has a COBF. My COBF does NOT reduce the damage I take from the enemies COBF.
FIRST ROUND:
King Chuckles takes damage from his own Fireball (9345)!
King Chuckles's Fireball hit Death for no damage
King Chuckles's Fireball hit Famine's familiar [16049]
SECOND ROUND:
King Chuckles takes damage from his own Fireball (9345)!
King Chuckles's Fireball hit Death [33004]
R.I.P. Death
Can someone plz look into this and make sure Im not missing something?
Thanks
King Chuckles's Fireball hit The Other Last's familiar [65241]
Your CoBF very much reduced that damage.
QBRanger
February 1 2005 9:30 AM EST
Well, considering I have a decent size AMF and in round 1 of the battle I posted the total damage was less than 30k (in total), I do not think the COBF did reduce the damage in round 2 at all on Death.
The First (character) does not have AMF thats why you do so much damage to that character.
Just my thoughts
QBRanger
February 1 2005 9:34 AM EST
King Chuckles takes damage from his own Fireball (6541)!
King Chuckles's Fireball hit Death for no damage
King Chuckles's Fireball hit Famine's familiar [2717], Famine [5551], Plague [9354], War [8400]
This is from the very first round of my latest battle with Mr. Chuckles. The entire damage done to all the minions/familiar is only 26022. So why does the COBF not save Death when he is the only one left? The COBF should protect me from all 26k or even a bit more. But the fireball in the end/last round does over 30k to me. If the COBF protects vs 28k then thats 58k in total, far more than was done in any round.
[EG] Almuric
February 1 2005 9:34 AM EST
There is a penalty to DD spells in the ranged rounds. In the first round your FB will do less damage than in the second round. You don't do max damage until the melee rounds, at which point you're doing damage to your own party.
Sucks, I know, but what can you do. ;}
King Chuckles's Fireball hit Sen Sei Jigoro Kano [68251]
Against a .39 AMF, whereas your's was around .24, better?
QBRanger
February 1 2005 9:41 AM EST
Hey, I see your point, but why does your fireball do a total of 20k damage vs all my minions (when there are 2 or more) and then over 60k vs the last one? Is that the normal progression of the spell?
With multiple minions its total damage is very much reduced but vs only 1 its greatly increased?
Just asking for my knowledge.
QBRanger
February 1 2005 9:43 AM EST
Also, in my first post all the rounds copied were in melee.
Thanks.
Yep, it takes some major penalties against 5 "minion" teams because of that.
Also CoBFs on them are very annoying ;)
Chargerz-Back
February 1 2005 9:46 AM EST
FB dmg increases through the rounds, the closer you get the more damage it will deal. so by the time he is in your face you have one minion left and it deals a butt load of damage.
QBRanger
February 1 2005 9:46 AM EST
Fair enough, If thats the answer, im very satisified.
I was just asking since I thought there may, possibly be a bug.
Thanks for your time.
Bolfen
February 1 2005 9:50 AM EST
ranger, there is a very easy way to test to see how much damage the CoBF blocks--
TAKE IT OFF
and attack the same character. Please report your findings here, I'd be very interested ;)
QBRanger
February 1 2005 10:00 AM EST
The problem with taking it off, is that my minion with it would die in the early rounds as all my other minions do. So it would not be possible to see how much damage the fireball would do just to that one.
AdminJonathan
February 1 2005 10:28 AM EST
DD damage is quite linear... if it does X dmg to 5 minions, it will do 5X dmg to one. Random factor, AC, endurance, etc. aside, of course.
Interesting to know... I'll do some tests on that (not that I don't believe you, after all, you're always right, just I don't believe you ;P).
QBRanger
February 1 2005 10:34 AM EST
So then Jon, back to my origional question in my first post. Why does the COBF then not block all the damage or most of it in the second round I posted?
Since with just 2 minions it did 16k to the familiar and 0 to my minion with the COBF.
Then with 1 minion it did 33k +28k (COBF reduction) which is over 63k? If the formula is linear, then the 33k that my minion took is right but then the COBF did not help any. Which is what I suspected? Can you please make sure I am not mistaken?
Thanks for your time.
Lumpy Koala
February 1 2005 10:41 AM EST
He already told you :P
when you have 5 minions, you take lesser damage per minion, thus 1st round you block FB on the CoBF minion.
when you have lesser minions left after 1st round, the damage you took per minion increased substantially , thus CoBF does not block all.
Lastly when you have only 1 minion left, you virtually took 5x of normal damage in 1st round, and of course as battle progresses , it turned out to be even huge.
QBRanger
February 1 2005 11:02 AM EST
Ok, i figured it out. Sorry for the problem.
Thanks,
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