UC Ranged weapons... (in General)

QBBarzooMonkey April 14 2005 12:55 PM EDT

Being a fan of Kung Fu movies, was thinking about this, and decided "what the heck - I'll throw it out there, even if it may have been brought up before"...

Ranged weapons associated with UC would be cool (i.e. shirukens or darts/throwing needles, etc.) They'd have to be done as ammo, because you sure wouldn't be able to get them back if you lose...
Anyone could use them, but a UC trained minion would get bonus, like with a Combat Gi, et. al.

...just an idea out of nowhere.... discuss... :)

Fihrer April 14 2005 2:04 PM EDT

I think that would be a great idea and would help bring up the popularity of UC.

Tribute April 14 2005 4:04 PM EDT

how can there be a ranged weapon if the person is unarmed? How? How? HOW?! It would only make sense if it was as you say, throwing darts/needles.

Bubo [DTC of Bubo] April 14 2005 4:07 PM EDT

*rips out an arm and throws it at his opponent*

There. An unarmed ranged weapon. :) Of course, there's also spit and other bodily secretions. Oh, and if you're an anime fan, there's chi attacks as well!

Tribute April 14 2005 4:17 PM EDT

Ah, but in ranged you can't really touch you're opponent. Imagine it as running across two sides of a battlefield towards the enemy.

QBBarzooMonkey April 14 2005 4:17 PM EDT

Tribute, that's the idea (shirukens are those pointy little throwing stars). You can't fight "unarmed" until you are in melee distance, but the ability to throw small, sharp weapons from a distance with deadly precision is a skill often associated with martial arts (which is basically unarmed combat). If CB2 UC is modeled after boxing, for instance, then my point would be moot, but I'm making an assumption that it's not, based on the themes & nature of the game...

...just an idea...

Starseed^Lure April 14 2005 5:52 PM EDT

What about Kiai? The 'spirit shout'. That's ranged, though I'm not sure how compatible it is with your idea.

IndependenZ April 14 2005 5:54 PM EDT

/me teaches his UC-minion to use his very own chi...
"Ka-me-ha-me-ha!" Or in CB-terms, Fi-re-ball!

I don't think UC should work in ranged combat ... or at most a very weak one. Shurikens and needles are cool, but not very appropriate for the game. Because, why would I invest a whole lot of money into an Elven Long Bow, if I can do the same to my throwing stars and get equal damage? Unarmed Combat, the name says it all ... with darts and stuff, the lovely monk will be armed and dangerous. ;)

I'll just stick with my axbow for now.

Starseed^Lure April 14 2005 5:58 PM EDT

I'm confused about which part of the suggestion said that you'd get elbow-like damage from the throwing darts.

QBBarzooMonkey April 14 2005 6:05 PM EDT

Arm an archery trained minion with the Elven Long Bow, and a UC trained one with shirukens, and the investment still pays off, and you've got two bonus damage minions to compete against high-damage fireballs & such...

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] April 14 2005 6:10 PM EDT

How about like a "Human Bow of Shadows"

It could be like the minion climbs into the shadows or trees and attacks the enemy unknowingly....=P

IndependenZ April 14 2005 6:19 PM EDT

Oh, I'm sorry, I meant this:
Now, you need ranged weapons and ammo. With darts, you'd only need ammo.
Because the UC itself is both the melee and ranged weapon, right?

So why invest large amounts of money into that Elven long Bow, if you can upgrade your darts to get the same amount of damage?
If this ever gets implemented, those darts should have to do minimal damage in my opinion.
So why bother implementing them at all?

AdminShade April 14 2005 6:42 PM EDT

ranged & UC? use a bow :P

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] April 14 2005 6:46 PM EDT

Shade, i think he means something that UC will give a boost to, or vice versa

QBBarzooMonkey April 14 2005 7:55 PM EDT

Actually, I use a staff sling right now, but smallpau1's got it - they would be average weapons in anyone's hands except a UC trained minion, the same way a bow is enhanced in the hands of an archery trained one.
Make 'em rares, so the only way to get them is to camp or pay big $ at auction & forum sales. like an ElBow...
It's all about choices & challenges, isn't it? :)

Descent April 14 2005 7:58 PM EDT

BarzooMonkey: When was the last time you saw somebody pay "Big $" for a UC item? =P

Nixon Jibfest April 14 2005 7:59 PM EDT

I think the issues has been raised before a few times and we still don't have it so i'm thinking we won't anytime soon. I do think it's a pretty good idea though. It would be nice to see UC used more. Also nice to see different type of ammo and a new rare ammo (e.g., Poisoned Darts with life,DX, or ST drain).

QBBarzooMonkey April 14 2005 8:27 PM EDT

If it were to give enough of an edge, why couldn't a UC item draw big $ the way any other powerful, victory enabling item does, especially if it made training UC more popular as a result. You know, "market demand" and all that...

...just an idea...

[Jedi] Danludar April 14 2005 9:41 PM EDT

well if they were rare and u had to pay big bucks then wouldnt it be a waste since u only get a certain amount i mean i like the idea this kinda stuff interests me but if u do it they should cost like as much as an elbow for good ones but like u can get ones that only hav like [1x1] (+1) in the store but they would cost like 10k for 1k of them and if u find some u can merge em or something iono just a stupid suggestion but i like the whole kai thing
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