Request for forgers: Shade needs data (in General)

IF you can and want, chatmail or post here some information about the item you are forging.

Item
Formula used (X or + for weapons also)
BA use per complete and correct cycle

and if you really want to help me:

copy paste every detail the Forge gives you from 1 complete correct forged cycle, this includes every heating and every quench.

I am trying to make a complete easy to check page on forging and could use your help with many different items.

Thank you in advance if you want to help me with this, dear forger :)

Kind Regards

Shade

ELB x
Formula: [70,15:30]
BA per Cycle: 20

ask YOU for his new formula for forging MHs...but he won't tell anyone =X

For the ELB mentioned above:

Working on the x(Damage)
x[70,16]

your smithing wand is cool to the touch
...You heat your smithing wand (10 min)
You can feel heat radiating from the tongs as you hold your smithing wand
...You heat your smithing wand (10 min)
You see blue spots on the surface of your smithing wand
...You heat your smithing wand (10 min)
A drop of water sizzles on your smithing wand
...You heat your smithing wand (10 min)
You can feel the heat from your smithing wand through your gloves
...You heat your smithing wand (10 min)
You detect a faint red glow from your smithing wand
...You heat your smithing wand (10 min)
your smithing wand glows a dull cherry-red
...You heat your smithing wand (10 min)
your smithing wand glows cherry-red
...You cast a spell. (of Viciousness)
your smithing wand glows cherry-red
...You quench your smithing wand in the water
your smithing wand glows a dark red
...You quench your smithing wand in the water
You detect a faint red glow from your smithing wand
...You quench your smithing wand in the water
You can feel heat radiating from the tongs as you hold your smithing wand
...You quench your smithing wand in the water
You see blue spots on the surface of your smithing wand
...You quench your smithing wand in the water
your smithing wand is too hot to touch
...You quench your smithing wand in the water
your smithing wand is cool to the touch
...You heat your smithing wand (10 min)
A drop of water sizzles on your smithing wand
...You heat your smithing wand (5 min)
You see light yellow spots on the surface of your smithing wand
...You heat your smithing wand (1 min)
You see deep straw-yellow spots on the surface of your smithing wand
...You cast a spell. (of Tempering)
You see deep straw-yellow spots on the surface of your smithing wand
...You quench your smithing wand in the water
your smithing wand is hot to the touch
...You quench your smithing wand in the water
You feel quiet satisfaction as you gaze on your Elven Long Bow. ----It gives you helpful encouragement like this :P
your smithing wand is cool to the touch

I really don't recommend anyone try to do this again, it took me FAR too long, my fingers hurt!

well id like to say Glory's formula of x[70,15:30] is slightly better than x[70,16]!!
just tried it out...

ah well

i must be doing something wrong... i get about .8% less per cycle with x[70,15:30]

Will: that is exactly what i want :D thanks :D

and for the MH forging, meh i already know that formula probably :P

I must have been doing something wrong. =P

Start 2.156% x46 - MPR : 125,090

x[70,15:30]

Heat & Vicious - 3.902%

Quench - 4.775%

Heat & Temper - 8.654%

Quench - 10.400%

RPM increase 10.400% - 2.156% = 8.244%


Start : 10.400% x46 - MPR : 125,090

x[70,16]

Heat & Vicious - 11.951%

Quench - 12.726%

Heat & Temper - 16.606%

Quench - 18.157%

RPM increase 18.157% - 10.400% = 7.757%

15:30 VS. 16 : 8.244% - 7.757% = 0.487%

reminder for myself and to show you how you can do it more easily:

if you'd put it in this way i will be able to collect everything i'd need from it :)


Exbow X, 100,22 | 25 ba / cycle


your Enforcer's Crossbow is cool to the touch
You feel quiet satisfaction as you gaze on your Enforcer's Crossbow.
You quench your Enforcer's Crossbow in the water
your Enforcer's Crossbow is too hot to touch
You quench your Enforcer's Crossbow in the water
You see yellow-brown spots on the surface of your Enforcer's Crossbow
You cast a spell.
You see yellow-brown spots on the surface of your Enforcer's Crossbow
You heat your Enforcer's Crossbow | 2
You see straw-yellow spots on the surface of your Enforcer's Crossbow
You heat your Enforcer's Crossbow | 10
A drop of water sizzles on your Enforcer's Crossbow
You heat your Enforcer's Crossbow | 10
your Enforcer's Crossbow is cool to the touch
You feel like you need to heat your Enforcer's Crossbow again
You quench your Enforcer's Crossbow in the water
A drop of water sizzles on your Enforcer's Crossbow
You quench your Enforcer's Crossbow in the water
You see dark purple spots on the surface of your Enforcer's Crossbow
You quench your Enforcer's Crossbow in the water
You can feel heat radiating from the tongs as you hold your Enforcer's Crossbow
You quench your Enforcer's Crossbow in the water
You can feel the heat from your Enforcer's Crossbow through your gloves
You quench your Enforcer's Crossbow in the water
You detect a faint red glow from your Enforcer's Crossbow
You quench your Enforcer's Crossbow in the water
your Enforcer's Crossbow glows a dull cherry-red
You quench your Enforcer's Crossbow in the water
your Enforcer's Crossbow glows cherry-red
You quench your Enforcer's Crossbow in the water
your Enforcer's Crossbow glows bright cherry-red
You cast a spell.
your Enforcer's Crossbow glows bright cherry-red
You heat your Enforcer's Crossbow | 10
your Enforcer's Crossbow glows cherry-red
You heat your Enforcer's Crossbow | 10
your Enforcer's Crossbow glows a dull cherry-red
You heat your Enforcer's Crossbow | 10
your Enforcer's Crossbow glows a dark red
You heat your Enforcer's Crossbow | 10
You detect a faint red glow from your Enforcer's Crossbow
You heat your Enforcer's Crossbow | 10
You can feel the heat from your Enforcer's Crossbow through your gloves
You heat your Enforcer's Crossbow | 10
You can feel heat radiating from the tongs as you hold your Enforcer's Crossbow
You heat your Enforcer's Crossbow | 10
You see blue spots on the surface of your Enforcer's Crossbow
You heat your Enforcer's Crossbow | 10
You see straw-yellow spots on the surface of your Enforcer's Crossbow
You heat your Enforcer's Crossbow | 10
A drop of water sizzles on your Enforcer's Crossbow
You heat your Enforcer's Crossbow | 10
your Enforcer's Crossbow is cool to the touch
Working on Angainor. The Chain of Melkor [4x37] (+35)

ELS x[85,19] / 24 BA per cycle

MPR ~ 125k

RPM increase : 7.084%

your Elven Long Sword is cool to the touch
You feel quiet satisfaction as you gaze on your Elven Long Sword.
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
your Elven Long Sword is too hot to touch
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
You see light yellow spots on the surface of your Elven Long Sword
You cast a spell. | Tempering
You see light yellow spots on the surface of your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword | 2
A drop of water sizzles on your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword | 2
A drop of water sizzles on your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword | 5
A drop of water sizzles on your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword | 10
your Elven Long Sword is cool to the touch
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
A drop of water sizzles on your Elven Long Sword
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
You see brown-yellow spots on the surface of your Elven Long Sword
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
You see blue spots on the surface of your Elven Long Sword
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
You can feel the heat from your Elven Long Sword through your gloves
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
You detect a faint red glow from your Elven Long Sword
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
your Elven Long Sword glows a dark red
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
your Elven Long Sword glows cherry-red
You cast a spell. | Viciosness
your Elven Long Sword glows cherry-red
You heat your Elven Long Sword | 5
your Elven Long Sword glows a dull cherry-red
You heat your Elven Long Sword | 10
your Elven Long Sword glows a dark red
You heat your Elven Long Sword | 10
You detect a faint red glow from your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword | 10
You can feel the heat from your Elven Long Sword through your gloves
You heat your Elven Long Sword | 10
You can feel heat radiating from the tongs as you hold your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword | 10
You see blue spots on the surface of your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword | 10
You see straw-yellow spots on the surface of your Elven Long Sword You heat your Elven Long Sword | 10
A drop of water sizzles on your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword | 10
your Elven Long Sword is cool to the touch
Working on Soul Scratch [80x54] (+27)

This took me a while...see if this is any useful

Mage Shield
+ [120,22]
29 BA / cycle
mpr=150k
From +27 – 28
Increase NW of $230216
Rough progress meter: 37.018%

your Mage Shield is cool to the touch
You heat your Mage Shield
your Mage Shield is too hot to touch
You heat your Mage Shield
A drop of water sizzles on your Mage Shield
You heat your Mage Shield
You see full purple spots on the surface of your Mage Shield
You heat your Mage Shield
You see blue spots on the surface of your Mage Shield
You heat your Mage Shield
You can feel heat radiating from the tongs as you hold your Mage Shield
You heat your Mage Shield
You can feel the heat from your Mage Shield through your gloves
You heat your Mage Shield
You detect a faint red glow from your Mage Shield
You heat your Mage Shield
your Mage Shield glows a dark red
You heat your Mage Shield
your Mage Shield glows a dull cherry-red
You heat your Mage Shield
your Mage Shield glows a dull cherry-red
You heat your Mage Shield
your Mage Shield glows cherry-red
You heat your Mage Shield
your Mage Shield glows bright cherry-red
You cast a spell.
You feel like you're making progress
your Mage Shield glows bright cherry-red
You quench your Mage Shield in the water
your Mage Shield glows cherry-red
You quench your Mage Shield in the water
your Mage Shield glows a dull cherry-red
You quench your Mage Shield in the water
your Mage Shield glows a dark red
You quench your Mage Shield in the water
You detect a faint red glow from your Mage Shield
You quench your Mage Shield in the water
You can feel the heat from your Mage Shield through your gloves
You quench your Mage Shield in the water
You can feel heat radiating from the tongs as you hold your Mage Shield
You quench your Mage Shield in the water
You see blue spots on the surface of your Mage Shield
You quench your Mage Shield in the water
A drop of water sizzles on your Mage Shield
You quench your Mage Shield in the water
your Mage Shield is too hot to touch
You quench your Mage Shield in the water
your Mage Shield is cool to the touch
You heat your Mage Shield (10 min)
your Mage Shield is too hot to touch
You heat your Mage Shield (10 min)
A drop of water sizzles on your Mage Shield
You heat your Mage Shield (2 min)
A drop of water sizzles on your Mage Shield
You cast a spell.
A drop of water sizzles on your Mage Shield
You quench your Mage Shield in the water
your Mage Shield is too hot to touch
You quench your Mage Shield in the water
You feel quiet satisfaction as you gaze on your Mage Shield.
your Mage Shield is cool to the touch

Rough progress meter: 40.501%
Increase of 3.483%
Increase NW of $8018
Increase NW per BA = $276

I think the ELB x[70,16] // x[70,15:30] difference is what you make of it. Think if you averaged it out they'd be the same RPM increase because they use the same BA.

As I'm only getting about 2.7-2.8% increase each cycle for the beaut I'm forging now I think I might try and do some kind of study on it just to make sure... :)

anyone else want to contribute?

I have inserted the data into the page, thanks to your contributions.

also please check out the site HERE

Nice work Shade.

TSA
+(120,24)
30 BA per cycle

TSA +, 120,24 | 30 ba / cycle

You feel quiet satisfaction as you gaze on your Trollskin Armor.
You quench your smithing wand in the water
your smithing wand is too hot to touch
You quench your smithing wand in the water
You see pale straw-yellow spots on the surface of your smithing wand
You cast a spell. l tempering
You see pale straw-yellow spots on the surface of your smithing wand
You heat your smithing wand l 2
A drop of water sizzles on your smithing wand
You heat your smithing wand l 2
A drop of water sizzles on your smithing wand
You heat your smithing wand l 10
your smithing wand is too hot to touch
You heat your smithing wand l 10
your smithing wand is cool to the touch
You quench your smithing wand in the water
your smithing wand is too hot to touch
You quench your smithing wand in the water
A drop of water sizzles on your smithing wand
You quench your smithing wand in the water
You see blue spots on the surface of your smithing wand
You quench your smithing wand in the water
You can feel heat radiating from the tongs as you hold your smithing wand
You quench your smithing wand in the water
You can feel the heat from your smithing wand through your gloves
You quench your smithing wand in the water
You detect a faint red glow from your smithing wand
You quench your smithing wand in the water
your smithing wand glows a dark red
You quench your smithing wand in the water
your smithing wand glows a dull cherry-red
You quench your smithing wand in the water
your smithing wand glows cherry-red
You quench your smithing wand in the water
your smithing wand glows bright cherry-red
You cast a spell. l hardness
your smithing wand glows bright cherry-red
You heat your smithing wand l 10
your smithing wand glows cherry-red
You heat your smithing wand l 10
your smithing wand glows a dull cherry-red
You heat your smithing wand l 10
your smithing wand glows a dull cherry-red
You heat your smithing wand l 10
your smithing wand glows a dark red
You heat your smithing wand l 10
You detect a faint red glow from your smithing wand
You heat your smithing wand l 10
You can feel the heat from your smithing wand through your gloves
You heat your smithing wand l 10
You can feel heat radiating from the tongs as you hold your smithing wand
You heat your smithing wand l 10
You see blue spots on the surface of your smithing wand
You heat your smithing wand l 10
You see full purple spots on the surface of your smithing wand
You heat your smithing wand l 10
A drop of water sizzles on your smithing wand
You heat your smithing wand l 10
your smithing wand is too hot to touch
You heat your smithing wand l 10
your smithing wand is cool to the touch
Working on A Trollskin Armor [22] (+35)

thought to make this post go up again: forgers please just copy paste the info you get from the forge!!!!

+ for ELS--[70,20]

your Elven Long Sword is cool to the touch
You feel quiet satisfaction as you gaze on your Elven Long Sword.
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
your Elven Long Sword is too hot to touch
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
You see straw-yellow spots on the surface of your Elven Long Sword
You cast a spell.
You see straw-yellow spots on the surface of your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword
A drop of water sizzles on your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword
your Elven Long Sword is cool to the touch
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
your Elven Long Sword is too hot to touch
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
You see straw-yellow spots on the surface of your Elven Long Sword
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
You see blue spots on the surface of your Elven Long Sword
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
You can feel heat radiating from the tongs as you hold your Elven Long Sword
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
You detect a faint red glow from your Elven Long Sword
You quench your Elven Long Sword in the water
your Elven Long Sword glows a dark red
You feel like you're making progress
You cast a spell.
your Elven Long Sword glows a dark red
You heat your Elven Long Sword
You detect a faint red glow from your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword
You can feel the heat from your Elven Long Sword through your gloves
You heat your Elven Long Sword
You can feel heat radiating from the tongs as you hold your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword
You see blue spots on the surface of your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword
You see straw-yellow spots on the surface of your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword
A drop of water sizzles on your Elven Long Sword
You heat your Elven Long Sword
your Elven Long Sword is cool to the touch