Todd is free. (in Off-topic)

Todd July 25 2005 1:07 PM EDT

Well, it seems that I have quit CB for good now. I've not played much at all in about a month. I wanted to try this quitting thing before announcing it.

I've already sold all of my gear, so don't ask.

I cannot put my finger on why I stopped playing, so I won't attempt to assign a single cause, but it probably can be summed up in: Jonathanegoandattitudealongeithlackofcommunityspirit-itis. CB2 just never really caught on for me. I'm sure all you Fruedians will assign a nice name to it, so you can make it look all nice and tidy.

Once you win CB1, I suppose there is nothing else left to do :)

I will say this though: My days are so much less stressful, and I am enjoying life a lot more. Looking back, I would plan my day around gettting in BA. I would sacrifice time with my kids and wife so I could get that extra 320 or so fights in that day.

I never saw my silly online addiction until I was freed from it. I don't expect anyone who is addicted to CB to understand my perspective, since I would have laughed at it myself a year ago. But, just do yourself a favour. If you find yourself picking CB over ANY other activity, ask yourself if it's really what you want in the long term. If the answer is yes.. go for it. If you can see other areas of your life suffering, then give your head a shake.

Biscuitback July 25 2005 1:29 PM EDT

i'm with you...

i'm very addicted, but i don't have kids, and when i'm on it's when the wife is at work, or when i get home - the wife is asleep.

NSFY July 25 2005 1:30 PM EDT

If Todd was new and improved with extra flavor crystals and 30% larger free I might take some but plain old free Todd does not interest me.

Make sure you stop back at Thanksgiving (<= the normal US one) for the beginning of the Christmas countdown and traditional carol singing. Adios amigo.

QBsutekh137 July 25 2005 1:53 PM EDT

Bye, Todd. Enjoy your freedom.

QBSefton [Black Cheetah Bazaar] July 25 2005 2:02 PM EDT

Sorry to see you go Todd, I do hope the new found freedom serves you well. To quote Janis:

"Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose"

When you come back for a visit, look for me near the top :)

xDanELx July 25 2005 2:13 PM EDT

I see the same thing with me right now. But this happend much worse when I was trying very hard to become one of the leaders. Now I'm more relaxed just trying to get as much fights in as I can. You should be thankful to Jon though as I think you made quite a lot of money from his game. All the best to you. :)

AdminShade July 25 2005 2:56 PM EDT

Bye bye todd, hope to speak you some day but alas most of the communication gets lost when not playing the same game anymore :(

Jason Bourne July 25 2005 3:30 PM EDT

i try to stop, i need to do my homework.....but i just cant let go...

im gonna invent a CB patch...just a little bit of CB a day...until none at all :D maybe that will help.

AdminG Beee July 25 2005 3:35 PM EDT

Todd who ?

AdminQBVerifex [Serenity In Chaos] July 25 2005 3:38 PM EDT

Bye Bye Todd, I wish you well in all your future endeavors!

If you are ever up in the Seattle area, let me know we can go out for lunch or something.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] July 25 2005 3:39 PM EDT

he will be back...again ; )

j/k...We are all gonna miss Todd :-/

come back once in a while! :)

NotSuitablForChildren [Yeeeaahh.................] July 25 2005 3:41 PM EDT

I'm with you Todd, and for the exact same reasons. CB2 did not hold my interest for long, and now that I get on infrequently I am enjoying my time a lot more.

Sukotto [lookingglas] July 25 2005 4:27 PM EDT

Aww.. who's going to get an unfair advantage now?

Bye Todd. :-(

Barron [CB2BANK Investors Club] July 25 2005 4:36 PM EDT

cya Todd.

I already know I'm never going to even be close to the top in this game. Should I quit, with that knowledge? I've considered it. But, with that in mind, I just play whenever I feel like it or have any spare time. I'm just interested in developing a strat that works. The rental business keeps me amused. But, when the fun goes, that's when to quit. The tough part is figuring all that out. Sounds like Todd has done that.

RAMPAGE July 25 2005 5:06 PM EDT

Todd is quitting?
Maybe the 37th time will be the charm, =)
Good luck Todd you will be missed(but our aim is improving).

Nixon Jibfest July 25 2005 10:40 PM EDT

Enjoy your freedom Todd. I felt the same freedom when I stopped camping so I can relate.

As far as Jonathanegoandattitudealongwithlackofcommunityspirit-itis...Can't speak much about the first part about Jonathan. I don't think that has ever been different. As for that second part about the community, are you sure that's reason why you stopped playing? It's a different community than CB1 but I'm not too sure about the lackofcommunitysprit-itis. If I didn't know better, I'd think that was an attack on the community spirit that does exist on CB2. Perhaps the real reason you no longer feel the same is because of ToddsEgoandAttitudeWhichNoLongerPullsAnyWeightintheCBCommunity. Or perhaps its TheCBCommunityNoLongerWritesAboutHowGreatIamOnAWeeklyBasis, or perhaps its TheCBCommunityHasFiguredOutThatIReallyDontContributeMuchButHaveMadeABoatloadofUSDintheProcess. Just a thought.

CB2 does have a good community spirit. On CB2, leaders of the community, like Sefton, Ranger, Shade, constantly exhibit modesty, generosity, helpfulness, and gratitude... arguably moreso than the some of the leaders in CB1.

What I've seen from the CB2 community in the past few months compared to CB1:
1. Continued support for newbies
2. More giving away of items than I ever saw on CB1, and I'm not talking about myself
3, Less USD sales (ie, less greed)
4. Lack of ego from top players,

I could go on but I think everyone gets the point. I'm sure other community members can add greatly to this list.

I apologize if this seems like just a personal attack on Todd, even though it is to a certain extent. The main point is to defend against Todd's attack on the community. There's no hiding what Todd thinks about the community. "Lackofcommunityspirit-itis" says it all. If he thinks lack of spirit is part of the problem with CB2, he definitely hasn't contributed much to improve it. As the saying goes, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Todd, you're part of the problem. Fortunately, I and probably the majority do not see a lack of community spirit, because we're part of the solution. Kudos to all of you.

BrandonLP July 25 2005 10:55 PM EDT

Yes, it is a bit suspicious that your drop out of CB2 as soon as the market for USD falls.

NSFY July 25 2005 11:02 PM EDT

Oh good - an appearance by team-blowhard - poster boys for the community - WOOHOO!

Nixon Jibfest July 25 2005 11:09 PM EDT

My apologies to anyone who may have interpreted my post as an attack on the CB1 community. My post wasn't meant to be an attack to those who contributed positively to CB1. My focus was on supporting CB2.

BrandonLP July 25 2005 11:13 PM EDT

Wow, you managed to jump off topic and say something un-pg at the same time. Congrats on acting like a complete jerk while your only basis for having a problem with me is the fact that I usually agree with Jibfest.

I'm not at all saying that Todd is a horrible monster or a bad player because he made USD. I was simply finding it to be "coincidental" that when the USD market came down hard, Todd left.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to get an admin to approve the name you affectionately gave Jibfest and me so I can make a clan with said name.

Relic July 25 2005 11:20 PM EDT

Wow, Nixon I used to think you were a cool guy. Talk about being judgmental, self-righteous, and outright pettiness. If Todd feels and expresses that he has stopped playing because he feels a lack of community spirit, then so what, that is what he feels. Does that mean that his statement applies to everyone? Opinions are not all-encompassing last time I checked.

Step off your little soapbox and realize that not everyone plays this game for the same reasons that you do and that is perfectly fine and right.

I don't know what gives you the right to slam Todd for selling stuff for USD either. I have bought and sold many things on here for USD, does that mean I am motivated solely by greed as well? I would like to see you quit trying to sell yourself as a selfless, altruistic, newbie helper, and all around good guy that is above everyone else. You promote yourself just as much if not more than anyone else that plays here.

Just because you give away items that are not real in a virtual game, does that make you a better person, and make the way you play this game more justified than anyone else? Grow up dude.

Todd July 25 2005 11:30 PM EDT

Nixon: Nice effort, but seriously man, you take me way too seriously if you think I play to be some center of attention. That is sooooo CB1 :)

My point on the community is simple. CB1 community was much more in tune with the game itself. We talked more strategy in chat. We talked more about gameplay and the like. There is a reason so many people turn off chat. CB2 is not a horrible community. There are many stong strategists. But, not as many as in CB1. That is my point.

And, I do find it amusing that no one is arguing the first half of the "word". ;) /me hugs Jon :)

Nixon Jibfest July 25 2005 11:36 PM EDT

yeah, there seems to be less technical talk on CB2 compared to CB1. It's likely that it's because CB2 has more technical features that everyone doesn't quite grasp fully as they did in CB1. Your point is received, Todd, and most likely agreed by me and many others if that's what you meant... but is that how you really define "Community Spirit?" or lack thereof?

Anyways, I apologize for the personal attack on Todd. Too late for me to take it back. I'll stick by my defense of the CB2 Community Spirit though.

AdminJonathan July 25 2005 11:49 PM EDT

Nobody is arguing the first half because my ego has always been part of the charm. :)

[Banned]Monty July 25 2005 11:50 PM EDT

Bye Todd! :D

I have Spid ;P

SaintMichael July 25 2005 11:56 PM EDT

Bye, have some fun in the reall world, wish you well. =D

Duke July 25 2005 11:59 PM EDT

I never have really talk to you but good luck on the after CB life.You were a good players.

[EG]Stump July 26 2005 7:15 AM EDT


I quit and was gone for about 4 months or so. I'm back now, but I play much less than I used to. You will be missed. One thing you are right about is the death of the community. CB2 chat is a wasteland compared to what CB1 chat was like in the 1.5 years that I was on there for hours every day. I also do not like CB2 as much as I liked CB1, but I now play CB2 more than CB1. Take a few months off, then try coming back just to run through 1 set of BA in the morning while you are waking up. If your goal is just to improve your character and not to dominate the CB world, things are much less stressful :)

Marc "Stump"

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] July 26 2005 7:34 AM EDT

bye again Todd, it may actually be for good this time ;P

Jon isn't such a bad guy, he just makes it fun for himself by destroying all the good things we have, which is why I always have a strategy which will never likely be popular, never gets nerfed =)

But I have to agree on the community it has gone downhill fast, in CB1 I used to see chat and forum threads about anything and everything with fun random competitions as well.
Now all I see is repetition, same competitions, same arguments in threads (why not keep it to 1?), complaining about changes which obviously wont get changed back (use chat or even better LIVE WITH IT!) and then those that repeatedly suggest changes which obviously wont happen.
And for Ranger to be a top member of the community, I disagree, just because he talked a lot and was at #1 doesn't make a valuable member in my eyes as he was the one who just seemed like a stuck record all the time and put the same opinion into every single thread related to it and I experienced no humerous side to him.
I long for the return of the days of NK, Ni and Soup being active in chat =)

Undertow July 26 2005 7:36 AM EDT

LOL G_Beee

I too find that the less time that I spend on CB, the more fun I have. When you live your life in 3 hour incriments, you tend to miss alot.

Of course, it would help if I didn't have so many other video game addictions to fill the void...

Undertow July 26 2005 7:40 AM EDT

Anyone else find it a little shady that Todd quits about the same time the game cries out with a need for admins? ;)

Todd, you've turned it down before, you don't need to run.

QBRanger July 26 2005 7:58 AM EDT


Its nice to see your true colors for a change.

I will say one thing about the CB2 chat boards, there have been quite a lot of personal attacks on people. Most of which are just plain stupid in their reasoning. Your just one of the examples I can use.

Next time you post, please think twice, about spewing the garbage you do. We will all be a lot happier without your input.

Mikel July 26 2005 8:18 AM EDT

Reminiscing about the old times won't bring them back.
You get out of it what you put into it, so if you aren't contributing then you are even less of a loss to the game than you think you are. I really would like to see less of these "waaaa I'm leaving waaaaa" threads and save the space for more productive ones.

AngryZac July 26 2005 8:49 AM EDT

Wow, would love to have great input...but I think that spot is already taken, so I'll just put: Have a good time Todd, don't think I ever really delt with you, but may have sold something to you before, not sure. I ofcourse knew of you though, as you were one of the staples of CB1. Glad to hear though that you're family is going to get more of you...think they'll apreciate it more anyways.

Tezmac July 26 2005 9:28 AM EDT

I'm sure you didn't write this to get a hundred opinions of you Todd, but good for you to break the CB habit. I'm surprised your wife hasn't wrung your neck already! Real life is always more important than a bunch of 1's and 0's sitting out in space, even if you're only sacrificing a minute of time. You're a great strategist and businessman, anyone who can dominate a game and still make wads of cash isn't greedy, as some in this post have said, but rather master of the game. Take it easy Todd and play an extra 5 minutes with your kids. :O)

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] July 26 2005 11:28 AM EDT

Yea forgot to mention in my last post that I hope your wife and kids enjoy your company as much as we did :)

5583 days old {Gaza} July 27 2005 11:31 PM EDT

I'm with Zoggy on that one; you will be missed by all who remember Spid (especially those who remember before you had spid!) and hopefully all others as well.
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