The Monty Fund for Repayment (in General)


QBRanger August 30 2005 3:40 PM EDT

Hello all,

As some people got abused by Monty and lost money, I would like to start The Monty Fund. Sort of like The Human Fund from Sienfeld but this will be real.

This is for all those who lost money to Monty. I will put 1 million cb2 in the fund. If others would like to contribute, please send the cash to my character The Monty Fund.

If you lost money to Monty, post below the exact PR post and youll be included in the fund. If you did not PR post it, sry youll be out of luck.

Now no interest will be paid but the principle will be, at least as much as money there is to go around.

If this gets chaotic, Ill do my best to sort things out as fair as possible but Ill be making the final decisions on who gets what. If we get more money than needed, refunds will be proportioned to who put in what about in the first place.

Thanks for your interest.

wldflr August 30 2005 3:48 PM EDT

Great idea, and quite honorable!

Special J August 30 2005 3:49 PM EDT

Please note this is a Player doing this and not an admin, so if you get taken for money in the future please do not expect something like this to occur.

Some people are just nice enough to lend a hand to those who get borked.

{CB3}-HR22 August 30 2005 3:52 PM EDT

Great Idea.

To bad Monty told me not to make a post or he wouldnt purchase my ELS. He was scared that people would yell at him for buying more junk and not paying them....
Ill be sending my donation shortly,
HellRazor22 [retired] (Razor) 172.142.61.221 QBRanger (The Monty Fund) $30000 -- BURN THE MONTY! 3:50 PM EDT

Heres the logs i found just in case:

Banned]Monty
banned (The Silver Kiss) 66.168.245.120 HellRazor22 [retired] (HR22) $500000 -- 2,5 owed July 20 2005 12:20 PM EDT
[Banned]Monty
banned (The Silver Kiss) 66.168.245.120 HellRazor22 [retired] (HR22) $500000 -- 3m owed July 20 2005 11:00 AM EDT

This was all i could find, unless an admin can search my CM's or something.

QBRanger August 30 2005 3:53 PM EDT

I feel the need to do this since I feel I was one of the players pushing most for his banishment.

I realize that by my doing this, I cost some players cb2. This is one way I can attempt to try to get some of the cb2 back to those scammed by Monty.

tscm August 30 2005 3:54 PM EDT

well.. I'm in a debt... but I would love to donate as much as I can :)

empty orchestra August 30 2005 3:54 PM EDT

the human fund... money for people. another festivus miracle!

btw i usually don't say this, but festivus should so be in the spellchecker.

Relic August 30 2005 3:57 PM EDT

This is very noble of you Ranger, thank you.

My PR thread is below:
PR Thread

{cb1}dyno August 30 2005 4:12 PM EDT

donated 150k. Hope others will chip in as well =) You're doing a great thing Ranger, you deserve every bit of that Q and B :)

wldflr August 30 2005 4:14 PM EDT

Monty's debt with uwn

ywn is so quiet, I would hate to see him miss out so I am posting this for him :)

Dignifried Bean [|Cheese It|] August 30 2005 4:17 PM EDT

Tyr (Laumer) 64.4.68.250 QBRanger (The Monty Fund) $240000

You're QB is glowing bright now!

QBRanger August 30 2005 4:19 PM EDT

Ywn--1.44 million
glory - 1.6 million

ywnwraith August 30 2005 5:50 PM EDT

Ranger, Monty had paid me 800k of the 1.5 million loan. Disregarding interest, I have only lost 700k. If any type of repayment is to be made to me, I would request that it not exceed this amount; allowing more for other creditors of Monty.

Quark August 30 2005 5:51 PM EDT

I'll put 200k into the Monty fund.

G Maximus (Maranello) 198.96.180.245 QBRanger (The Monty Fund) $200000 -- Donation 5:51 PM EDT

QBRanger August 30 2005 5:55 PM EDT

So:
Outstanding Loans as of right now:

Ywnwraith 700k
HR22 retired to be determined as no PR post but there are xfers
Glory 1.6 million

Awaiting others.

Bull3t F4c3 August 30 2005 7:08 PM EDT

monty owes me 3.2 mil...there have been 4 threads to show it, but i dont know how to put them in here...

Relic August 30 2005 7:13 PM EDT

Bullet's Thread

(CB1)logan666 [Jago] August 30 2005 7:36 PM EDT

I don't have much money but I'll tell you guys what. I have some Beleg's in auction right now and I'll give half of what I make from them to the fund. If you think this is just some way to sell them then take a look and see that I stand to give out 250k-325k by doing this. If you still feel the need to flame me then flame away, I don't care.

Special J August 30 2005 7:39 PM EDT

No one is going to flame you :)

Nixon Jibfest August 30 2005 7:50 PM EDT

I'll flame him.

Mikel August 30 2005 10:59 PM EDT

DAWG is on vacation, so I'll post this one for him. as to the original amount, I'm not really sure. I'll CM DAWG and ask him to post the details. http://carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001ROI

QBRanger August 30 2005 11:06 PM EDT

DAWG 5.1 million cb2.

QBRanger August 30 2005 11:08 PM EDT

Ywnwraith 700k
HR22 2.5 million
Glory 1.6 million
DAWG 5.1 million
Bull 3.2 million

Awaiting others.

ill let this go till the post closes the open a new post with the payments that can be made.

Grim Reaper August 30 2005 11:08 PM EDT

is there a way to track his ip and have his identity found so we can send him to court and make him pay all his debt or atleast put him in juvie for a while since he did a bunch of stealing online?

SaintMichael August 30 2005 11:09 PM EDT

Very charitable Ranger, but the QB's brilliant light is blinding me! Seriously: job well done with getting rid of Monty, and job well done for repairing his damages.

Ox [StephenMelinda Gates Fund] August 30 2005 11:13 PM EDT

Hmm I doubt you could take legal action over virtual money, even if it was exchanged for real USD at times. But I'm not lawyer.

Does anybody here know if that could actually happen? Now the curiosity is killing me. Killing me I say.

Dragon Slayer August 30 2005 11:24 PM EDT

theres no laws concerning it in the US as far as i know

Special J August 30 2005 11:49 PM EDT

Precedents have been set in a couple countries concerning purchasing virtual goods with real money.


But those countries do not concern the laws of the hosting country of the server, so nothing can be done legal wise.

Grim Reaper August 31 2005 3:47 AM EDT

Well I do know that a lot of scammers never operate inside the united states having let's say one of those email click to get paid sites. I tried doing it last year I hated it. Majority didn't pay, all they did was collect cash from people who wanted to spread their advertisings, the workers never got payed it was all sad. Ontop of it all every one of those scammers was operating outside of united states to evade being arrested. There are a few that do pay and they got gold awards for being good bussiness sites/trustworthy stuff.

AdminShade August 31 2005 8:24 AM EDT

fixed a few links, put in my own 2 cents worth for the monty fund.:

Shade (Iluvatar) --> QBRanger (The Monty Fund) $100000

ywnwraith August 31 2005 8:33 AM EDT

Please remove me from the list. Monty's debt has been settled.

AdminShade August 31 2005 8:47 AM EDT

Ywnwraith Settled.
HR22 2.5 million
Glory 1.6 million
DAWG 5.1 million
Bull 3.2 million

Awaiting others.

AdminG Beee August 31 2005 8:51 AM EDT

OK, so I'm a damp squid on all of this thread.

The folks detailed on this thread that got scammed by Monty aren't exactly the poor relations of Carnage Blender. They also loaned Monty (assumption on my behalf) because they were getting a return whether it be in a sale that he agreed to pay more than anyone else on or a money loan with interest.

Looks to me as if some of the poorer people in the game may make donations to this fund so that the richer people can claw back more money on deals that they set up to make even more money...

"Noble" as the intention is Ranger I won't be contributing anything over and above my verbal $0.02 :p

Relic August 31 2005 9:10 AM EDT

I cannot speak for anyone else in regards to the .02 cents above, but I did not scam Monty or broker a deal that was outrageous with him. He purchased a 280Kish 2 minion team fully equipped with rares for 5.5 mil.

One more thing, so, GBee, what you are saying is that because those that have debts with Monty don't (in your opinion) need repayment, that Ranger is not justified in his efforts? Only poor people/players deserve fair treatment and honorable acts of kindness? Wow, can you say shallow?

I never asked for any handout, nor did anyone else who Monty cheated AFAIK. Don't try to make something more out of this than fellow players trying to right a wrong that happened to their fellow players.

AdminShade August 31 2005 9:21 AM EDT

Ranger is entitled to do this for the 'less poor' people as well as anyone would be entitled to as far as im concerned...

AngryZac August 31 2005 9:44 AM EDT

Just have to say I too am not agreeing with G Bee, just because you determine that the people who made deals with Monty were well off doesn't mean they deserve their money stolen/scammed from them. That's the same kind of logic that makes people think it's ok for the poor to rob the rich, or it's alright if there's a riot if the people are "oppressed". I'm giving now just to spite that comment.

QBBarzooMonkey August 31 2005 10:06 AM EDT

BarzooMonkey (The Wonka Factory) 69.161.88.153 QBRanger (The Monty Fund) $1000000 -- G Beee's 2 cents 10:04 AM EDT

I have nothing to add except that "wet squid" is an understatement.

(CB1)logan666 [Jago] August 31 2005 10:23 AM EDT

logan666 (I Win) 71.105.188.145 QBRanger (The Monty Fund) $325000 10:20 AM EDT

As promised I sent half of what I sold my Beleg's for:)

Jordan23 August 31 2005 10:48 AM EDT

Sorry for your money lost but i agree with G-BEEE

Starseed^Lure August 31 2005 11:14 AM EDT

Way to go, Ranger. I was considering this exact same concept, though I felt I hadn't the time to follow it through. I feel the same as you, having pushed for a ban, so I will be donating even though I *need* that corn!! *smile*

Relic August 31 2005 11:17 AM EDT

I must say that this thread speaks volumes about the generosity and the community as a whole here on cb2. I wish to extend my gratitude to all those participating, thank you very much.

Koala August 31 2005 12:27 PM EDT

sent 175k contribution

TheEverblacksky August 31 2005 3:11 PM EDT

sent 300k + 8k and some nonsense :)

AngryZac August 31 2005 4:00 PM EDT

How long are you planning on collecting anyway? (just curious, not trying to rush you or anything)

QBRanger August 31 2005 4:11 PM EDT

I will collect for 2 days from the start of the thread.

Then a new post with distributions will occur.

{CB3}-HR22 August 31 2005 4:41 PM EDT

Send the spare cash on my farms over.
HellRazor22 [retired] (TheFlame) 172.171.27.70 QBRanger (The Monty Fund) $613 4:39 PM EDT
HellRazor22 [retired] (HR22) 172.171.27.70 QBRanger (The Monty Fund) $3805 4:38 PM EDT

**First off i would like to thanks Ranger and everyone who has donated so far**
Now, I would like for you to elminate 500k of Monty's debt to be, becuse im sure many others need it more than me and the Fun is looking pretty low to pay for all this. My debt shall now be 2Mil even. -Thanks

{CB3}-HR22 August 31 2005 4:44 PM EDT

Fund Money: $5,312,689
Debts:
HR22 2 million
Glory 1.6 million
DAWG 5.1 million
Bull 3.2 million
TOTAL: $10,900,000



QBRanger September 1 2005 1:41 PM EDT

No more contributions please, this post is now over.

Payments to begin soon.
This thread is closed to new posts. However, you are welcome to reference it from a new thread; link this with the html <a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001UhQ">The Monty Fund for Repayment</a>