Advice for Sefton (in General)


Nixon Jibfest October 8 2005 4:43 PM EDT

Note: Bast and Sutekh are deserving of the QB. This post isn't meant to take anything away from them.

IMO, Sefton is the first player who truly mastered CB2 by combining strategic fighting with effective camping. He was one of the first to come up with an effective "Wall" defense on CB2. He added new minions at very strategic points in Gyaxx's development. He thought everything ahead of time , and this meticulous strategy was key in making Gyaxx a top character. All of this was made possible by Sefton's effective camping. Although Sefton only used a percentage of his BA on camping, he was nearly as successful as I was at camping using 100% of my BA for camping. Being a great fighter, a successful camper, and a disciplined user of BA is not enough to be QB though.

Sefton has been one of the most active and helpful CB members. The guy is on 24/7 and always available in New Players chat to help newbies with strategies and get them interested in the game. Being a great mentor is not enough to be QB though.

Giving advice wasn't the only thing Sefton gave. There are few people who gave away for free or sold more rares for cheap then Sefton. He used his camping skills not only to upgrade his weapons and armor, he used his camping skills to give away tons of rares to newbies and veterans. Generosity is not enough to be QB though.

Understandably, there were some things about Sefton that made his candidacy for QB less impressive than others. He was very vocal against the NUB and even moreso on the NW/PR tie. If you read his posts carefully though, he never took cheap shots at the NW/PR or the NUB. He always gave constructive input on those issues and also provided possible solutions to make the game better. The last thing CB2 needs is another QB who cares enough about the game to speak up when s/he feels that there is a feature in the game that could be adjusted to make the game more fun for all players.

Sefton, here's my advice for you....
1. Continue to be an effective player.
2. Continue to be a helpful mentor
3. Continue to be generous
4. If you ever want to be QB, just agree with all changes to the game and stop giving your input on how you think the game can be improved.

AdminJonathan October 8 2005 5:47 PM EDT

right, because sutekh always agrees with me about everything

guess you're new here

AdminJonathan October 8 2005 5:48 PM EDT

oh, wait

you're just one of those embittered ex-campers who sold for USD and can't get over that

carry on

WeaponX October 8 2005 5:53 PM EDT

here is where i must agree with Sajack. the guy won the popular vote every time he was nominated and yet has no QB. i understand the vote is not final word but it seems there is some bias against Sefton.

AdminG Beee October 8 2005 5:58 PM EDT

Oh yeah - like you guys over the pond voted for Bush first time round.

AdminJonathan October 8 2005 6:04 PM EDT

what are you smoking, mega?

a quick look at poll history shows sefton wasn't even a finalist for the first QB vote.

{CB1}Bio [Battle Royale] October 8 2005 6:04 PM EDT

g_beee yes my family did vote for him first time around....and he was practically the founder of cb2. Just because he has his own mind(which is a good one) and speaks it only makes him a better person. i think its a disgrace that he didnt get it

AdminJonathan October 8 2005 6:05 PM EDT

bush was practically the founder of cb2?

or sefton was?

either way, you're not making much sense.

but it's cool, in a trippy sort of way...

WeaponX October 8 2005 6:13 PM EDT

ok 3 out of 4 counting cb1. but my point was every time the people vote and Sefton doesn't win and Sutekh who half the game (new players) doesn't know does win. the contest in my mind looses its luster

CoolWater October 8 2005 6:16 PM EDT

Jonathan, 5:48 PM EDT
oh, wait

you're just one of those embittered ex-campers who sold for USD and can't get over that

carry on

Jon, I think the only time he sold for USD was for charity. He gave away most of his camped items to newbies and some other players.

Inferno October 8 2005 6:16 PM EDT

Can you guys just get over it.

Saying Sefton should of won isn't going to help much, and start complaining about it won't help much neither.

QBRanger October 8 2005 6:23 PM EDT

I do think I won the first QB popular vote. By about 15 votes over Bast. She and I were far ahead of the other players who were up for the QB at that time.

QBRanger October 8 2005 6:24 PM EDT

Here is the link to that poll:

http://www.carnageblender.com/poll/poll-results.tcl?poll_id=357

BrandonLP October 8 2005 6:35 PM EDT

CoolWater, not to ruffle any feathers, but selling for USD is selling for USD no matter the circumstances. Granted I never once saw Pat/Jibfest sell items/money to line his own pockets, but it's still selling for USD.

CoolWater October 8 2005 6:35 PM EDT

CB has always been Jonocracy, so votes are pretty much useless.

QBSefton [Black Cheetah Bazaar] October 8 2005 6:44 PM EDT

Thank you Nixon for the very complimentary post, I will do my best to live up to it. :)

CoolWater October 8 2005 6:44 PM EDT

I know Brandon, but I wouldn't say he's an embittered ex-campers and couldn't get over selling USD. because selling for USD was of no importance to him.

BrandonLP October 8 2005 6:51 PM EDT

Note that I never disagreed with you there. ;)

CoolWater October 8 2005 6:58 PM EDT

That's true, you didn't disagree.
I was just trying to explain that selling for USD wasn't my point. My point was what Jon said wasn't true.

Mikel October 8 2005 7:32 PM EDT

I agree a good QB should be able to give sound advice to all Players in a courteous way.
Which is why I think Sefton is deserving, but then again.
In my eyes, Sefton has a QB right in front of his name.

Blarg October 8 2005 8:12 PM EDT

Why do people need to have a QB stuck to their name? Sefton doesn't even seem to care and will continue to do all the things nixon listed. Sutekh will continue to do all the things he's done, as will bast, as does ranger. The QB changes nothing except for a bit of recognition. And the existence of this post proves that sefton doesn't really need it. I doubt any of the existing QBs needed the QB in front of their name to tell other people they are a great person. Their actions did that. People should not change who they are just to get QB.

Untouchable October 8 2005 9:56 PM EDT

yeah, Sefton's cool :] who needs that QB next to their name anyways.

{CB1ate}aupStar October 9 2005 8:39 AM EDT

My my, has QB lost its meaning?

Did it have a meaning to begin with?

Is there anything wrong with selling for USD?

Would the game survive without people using USD?

AdminShade October 9 2005 8:47 AM EDT

aupStar: the use of USD will always be an important factor in a 'small' game and community like CB.

However if being QB, a very honorable title, would be earned by those who spend the most USD in the game then it would be a useless title.

Also the selling of USD isn't anything outruled and even a QB could sell out if he/she feels that it is necessary.

But still I think the helping of other people, newb or not, is what counts most in earning the title of QB. At least in my opinion.

AdminJonathan October 9 2005 10:58 AM EDT

It's disappointing to see people take advantage of the QB celebration to mud-sling and throw out not-so-veiled insults. It's not like "the popular vote is only one factor considered in the QB process" is some new revelation.

In the 5 CB1 QBs, the first place finisher in the poll did not win on two occasions. In one of those, it was the _third_ place finisher in the poll who won. Sefton was not involved in any of these.

There is no vast anti-Sefton conspiracy. He simply was not the most qualified candidate at this time.

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