The Hacker's Diet challenge (in Off-topic)


Sukotto [lookingglas] January 5 2006 12:59 PM EST

Tezmac wondered if I'd like to be a sort of workout partner for exercise and/or dieting using the Hacker's Diet mentioned in the new year's resolution thread.

I think that's a great idea as, like Tezmac said, I find it much easier to stick with new habits when I have a buddy. So sure, let's do it. We can use this pr thread in the short term, then figure out a better place to host the info later.

Tezmac January 5 2006 1:06 PM EST

Excellent! When should we start keeping "official" track? :O)

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] January 5 2006 1:15 PM EST

still checking out the site...that stuff is great!

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 5 2006 4:28 PM EST

No time like the present. I'll start today :-)
Still not sure I'm ready for the dieting part of things but I'll certainly track my weight and exercise.

Tezmac January 5 2006 4:30 PM EST

I think that's all I'd like to "officially" track anyway, so that works for me :O)

vendo January 5 2006 5:40 PM EST

Would you mind having another "buddy"? I'd like to do this also.

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 5 2006 6:56 PM EST

Welcome aboard vendo :-) I welcome anyone who wants to give it a shot and assume Tezmac does as well.

I'm not sure how far we should go in this forum in terms of actually giving numbers. First of all, some of us may feel embarrassed to list our actual weight or exercise level. Second of all, this should not turn into a contest. The important thing here is that each of us sticks with it and makes progress at our own pace. I don't want anybody feeling bad because someone else is moving faster.

So feel free to post whatever you think is most appropriate for you.
- the fact that you did your exercise today
- how much +/- your trend is from your starting point
- your actual weight or exercise level.

Whatever is best for you. (I'm still thinking about what's best for me :-) )

All I ask is that you take this seriously and commit so some amount of time. I've read that it takes 30 days to build a habit. Why not commit to at least weighing yourself and performing some basic exercise for 30 days?

On a related note. I plan to follow the Hacker's Diet exercise ladder and use his excel templates for my weight. I can't resist the pretty graphs. (Woo hoo graphs!)

I assume Tezmac plans to do the same but really, I bet any sane diet or exercise program is better than however most of us live right now so, pick one and go for it :-)

Tezmac January 5 2006 7:08 PM EST

I'm comfortable with posting my weight and exercise level, I'll even post my graph and trend in my user portrait :O)

I second the not making this a contest statement. It's easy to drop a lot of weight fast, this is about building a habit and sticking with it. I wanted to do this so it would keep me honest, if I don't post numbers for several days, I expect to get some grief from the community. :O)

AdminG Beee January 5 2006 7:25 PM EST

OK, I'm in although I'm not overweight. Seemingly I'm just undertall and should in fact be 9'10".

Look out for my user portrait being updated as well - seems like a good place to keep it.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 January 5 2006 7:27 PM EST

undertall

rofl : D

Undertow January 5 2006 7:45 PM EST

I am tempted....

I'll get back to you.

Is this available in actual book format?

Tezmac January 5 2006 9:41 PM EST

Data for the day:

Exercised - Rung 1
Weight - 185.19

Will upload graph as portrait after the first week is complete. :O)

Hop on aboard G_Beee!!

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 6 2006 10:05 PM EST

@ G Beee: Glad you could join us! When do you plan to start?

@ [BigDaddy]'Tow: You can download and print the pdf document. I'd try to do it at work, but of course I'm not employed at the moment :-(. I printed off the important parts of the exercise chapter and plan to print out a log page tonight.

Yesterday
Wt 196.5
Rung 1

Today
Wt 198
Rung 1

Tezmac January 6 2006 10:36 PM EST

Weight - 186.51
Exercise - Rung 1

Tezmac January 7 2006 4:20 PM EST

Weight - 181.22
Exercise - Rung 1

Where's GBeee at!?? :O)

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 7 2006 5:15 PM EST

and Vendo...

Come on guys... gotta get some movement soon or you'll never start.

AdminG Beee January 7 2006 6:06 PM EST

ok ok ok...

Weight - 278.25
Exercise - Rung 1

(Hey I'm big boned and 6'3" gimme a break)

QBJohnnywas January 7 2006 6:15 PM EST

Dieting G? Is that clearing some space for your trip to London??!?!? ;)

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 7 2006 11:53 PM EST

Jokes about weight, size, etc are not appropriate in a diet thread. We want to stay positive.

today
wt 198
rung 2

Undertow January 8 2006 1:20 AM EST

I have to wait until I can affoard a proper scale. One that measure at more than 350 lbs. It's gonna run me at least $70 for a cheap one.

Guardian of the Glen January 8 2006 1:21 AM EST

Do you have room for one more?

I printed the "BOOK" today at work. It is 336 pages. the printer is still alive (let them pay for the ink) I'll need a 3 inch binder to keep it in. :)

Have read only a little as time now allowing but i really like what i did read.

QBJohnnywas January 8 2006 6:22 AM EST

Sukotto, and anybody else in this thread, apologies for my comment. You're right it was inappropriate. I've just spent most of the past year helping my wife diet for our wedding. I should know better and should have kept it to CM.

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 8 2006 9:27 AM EST

Anyone that wants to participate is more than welcome to do so. Just post what you plan to do. Then post each day so we all know you're sticking with it. Most of us are following the Hacker's Diet but there are a lot of other reasonable plans out there.
Welcome aboard Guardian of the Glen. When do you plan to start? :-)

It's come up via CM so I thought I'd mention it here as well.... please, if you've had to go through back/neck/hip/whatever surgery, or if you weigh significantly more than about 225 pounds, please talk to your doctor before starting an exercise or diet program. You could easily make things worse for yourself aggravating old injuries or blowing out your knees.

On a different note. My favorite blog had a post a while back saying that some cheapo digital scales might just repeat the previous weight if it's not more than +/- 2 lb. I'm not sure if my $30 model from Target does this, but I've been deliberately underweighing myself (like just my leg) once before taking my actual weight.... just in case.

AdminShade January 8 2006 1:25 PM EST

What are the 'rungs' that you note?

AdminG Beee January 8 2006 1:52 PM EST

Weight - 275.50
Exercise - Rung 1

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 8 2006 3:26 PM EST

The chapter "What, Me Exercise?" details an exercise program. Rung #1is the starting point. Rung #2 is slightly more challenging, and so on. According to the book, most people can achieve rung 25 with daily 15 minute workouts. For the really hard core, you can take it as high as rung 48.

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 9 2006 12:53 AM EST

Jan 8
wt 195.5
rung 3

Tezmac January 9 2006 12:59 AM EST

Weight - 182.10
Exercise - Rung 1

AdminG Beee January 9 2006 6:03 AM EST

Weight - 274.50
Exercise - Rung 1

Guardian of the Glen January 9 2006 2:22 PM EST

Thank you!

I am starting today.

Height 5'6
weight 163
medium body type
rung 1

Tezmac January 9 2006 11:46 PM EST

Weight - 181.66
Exercise - Rung 2

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 10 2006 12:05 AM EST

Jan 9

wt 197
rung 3

The situps and running aren't so bad. And I feel like I could do way more pushups. But man, those leg lifts are killing me!

AdminG Beee January 10 2006 6:39 AM EST

Weight - 274.50
Exercise - Rung 1

Indeed the exercise part is the sucky bit but no pain no gain :)
I play golf twice a week (3.5mile walk each time) and walk the dog every evening for between 15 - 30mins with a lot more on weekends. May not be considered "exercise" in the traditional sense but it beats sitting about all day. This additional exercise as per the diet plan although basic will help the "toning" I'm sure.

My problem is that I don't do any cardiovascular stuff although I can confirm the mere thought of jogging does increase my heart rate.

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 11 2006 12:51 AM EST

wt 195.5
rung 3

Tezmac January 11 2006 2:13 AM EST

Weight - 181.66
Exercise - Rung 2

AdminG Beee January 11 2006 5:04 PM EST

Weight - 275
Exercise - Rung 1

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 11 2006 10:31 PM EST

weight 197.5
rung 3

Where are you Guardian of the Glen? You haven't posted and you haven't answered my cm.

Undertow January 11 2006 10:46 PM EST

I just thought of something cool. It would be awesome to combine everyones trend graphs, kinda like the mpr graphs. What you think?

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 12 2006 12:03 AM EST

Although I would find it interesting I don't think we should do it. A graph like that would likely lead to a sense of competition which is definitely something we want to avoid here.

Halcyon January 12 2006 12:21 AM EST

I would play along .. need to gain weight .. but my motabolism .. is WAY too high .. I can't gain an ounce.

Tezmac January 12 2006 9:22 AM EST

Weight - 181.66
Exercise - Rung 2

For some reason, my scale is stuck at 84.2 kg....

House January 12 2006 10:54 AM EST

age 41 almost
Weight - 215 lbs.
Exercise - Rung 1

Degenerative Disk Disease, arthritis in every load bearing joint.....

I f I can do this , any one can

(hope this doesn't kill me )

AdminG Beee January 12 2006 5:49 PM EST

Weight - 275
Exercise - Rung 1

...and hungry.

Tezmac January 12 2006 8:25 PM EST

<---------------------
Weight - 181.22
Exercise - Rung 2

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 12 2006 9:38 PM EST

weight 196
rung 3

AdminG Beee January 13 2006 5:45 PM EST

Weight - 271.5
Exercise - Rung 1

SNK3R January 13 2006 5:52 PM EST

Good job, guys. Keep up the good work!

Tezmac January 13 2006 7:16 PM EST

<--------------------
Weight - 180.78
Exercise - Rung 2

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 13 2006 9:08 PM EST

weight 196
rung 3

Doing great guys. Keep it up!

Welcome House Shannara. Please be extra careful ok?

You bailing out on us Guardian of the Glen?

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 15 2006 8:39 PM EST

Sat 14
weight 195
rung 3

Sun 15
weight 197
rung 3

Tezmac January 15 2006 9:32 PM EST

<----------

Sat
weight 183.12
Rung 3

Sun
weight 182.89
Rung 3

AdminG Beee January 16 2006 2:36 AM EST

Sat 14
weight 271.5
rung 1

Sun 15
weight 271
rung 1

Today
weight 269.5
rung 1

I'm slow with the exercise due to my busted leg and screwed up back but I'm getting there. I'm not looking on the exercise as a must do target (with respect to advancing up the rungs every 5 - 7 days) other than that I must do what I can every day.

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 16 2006 1:01 PM EST

You could stay at rung 1 forever or keep your current weight and it won't matter. (Except to you depending on what goals you've set). All that really matters is putting in the time every day. (And posting so everyone knows you're sticking with it).

Keep it up G Beee, you're doing great :-)

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 17 2006 2:21 AM EST

Jan 16
weight 194.5
rung 3

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 18 2006 12:25 AM EST

weight 196
rung 3

Cool, I found another sanity check in Jon's code :-)

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Sukotto [lookingglas] January 18 2006 10:33 PM EST

weight 195
rung 4


where is everyone? Don't make me come over there...

Tyra January 19 2006 9:50 AM EST

what is that all about ??
maybe i should join in

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 19 2006 11:19 AM EST

You're welcome to join us if you like.

Basically, we're dieting and/or exercising daily. Daily posting to show we did it helps us stick to it and not miss days. No competition (except with yourself).

Don't post your real weight if you feel uncomfortable doing so. You can post just the plus/minus from your starting weight if you want. Whatever. We're not here to judge you. Just give you a little moral support to help you stick to it.

I'm doing the daily exercise, but not following the diet. Exercise, every day, no excuses. Even if I have to do it at 2 in the morning because my whole day was shot ... which has happened more than once so far :-(

Want to make a commitment for say... 30 days? You can do some low-impact, easy exercise daily for a mere 30 days can't you?

maulaxe January 19 2006 12:11 PM EST

I read a little bit of the website, but didn't think that I saw anything relating to this... does he recommend anything different for those who are "underweight" according to the conventional weight/height charts?

House January 19 2006 4:17 PM EST

update...off to extremely slow start.....new meds for back pain (dislike them all)

still fat :(
but have wonderful partner (whyspersym) to help get the ball rolling...thanks Sukotto for reminding me of my commitments



age 41 almost
Weight - 215 lbs.
Exercise - Rung 1

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 19 2006 11:03 PM EST

weight 198
rung 4

The numbers don't matter to me House, I just want you guys to show up every day :-D

Tezmac January 20 2006 9:48 AM EST

I apologize profusely for not posting the past few days. I definitely don't want to let the team down!!! But I have still been stickin' to the plan. Good work guys!

Mon
181.22
Rung 3

Tues
180.78
Rung 3

Wed
180.78
Rung 3

Th
181.66
Rung 4

Fri
180.78
Rung 4

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 20 2006 11:01 PM EST

Thanks for updating Tezmac.

weight 198
rung 4

AdminG Beee January 21 2006 2:35 PM EST

Sun 15
weight 273
rung 1

Well last week was a biz trip for me and as usual beer and good food were aplenty so I guess I expected to go back up a little.

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 21 2006 9:24 PM EST

weight 197.5
rung 5

AdminG Beee January 22 2006 4:16 AM EST

weight 272
rung 1

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 22 2006 11:50 PM EST

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weight 197.5
rung 5

TheEverblacksky January 23 2006 9:00 PM EST

i just want to say, great job and keep up the work. I try and work out everyday, but it doesn't always happen, so good job on keeping it regular!

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 23 2006 9:35 PM EST

You're welcome to join us EBS.
Make a commitment to post every day that you've done your workout. Give as much or as little detail as you like. In the end, the actual numbers can only matter to you ... all that really matters to us is that you show up every day.

What do you say? It's certainly helped keep me honest and, I suspect it's helped the others as well.

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 23 2006 11:13 PM EST

weight 196
rung 5

Tezmac January 23 2006 11:16 PM EST

Sat
181.66 lbs
Rung 4

Sun
181.22 lbs
None - BAD BAD!!!

Mon
181.66 lbs
Rung 4

I need to get back on track posting every day...

AdminG Beee January 24 2006 4:51 AM EST

Mon
272 lbs
Rung 1

Tue
271 lbs
Rung 1

Tezmac January 24 2006 9:45 PM EST

Tues
185.19 lbs
Rung 4

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 25 2006 1:12 AM EST

weight 197
rung 5

AdminG Beee January 25 2006 2:40 AM EST

268.8 lbs
Rung 1

Sukotto [lookingglas] January 25 2006 11:45 PM EST

weight 193
rung 5

I find the exercise much easier now that I've been doing it for a while. Much like my max tattoo level grows faster than my tattoo, I hope my rung level continues to grow faster than my perceived difficultly level. :-D

AdminG Beee January 26 2006 6:55 AM EST

270 lbs

Dang Sneakers bar at lunch time. It screamed "eat me", honest.

Bad weekend planned in London and GL informs me he's gonna make sure I have my full of beer and burgers so I expect a few pounds increase in the coming days.

AdminShade January 26 2006 7:07 AM EST

you should get GL to also work out :p

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] January 26 2006 7:38 AM EST

I know I need too.. :(

But I won't. *sigh* As for that craving G, have you seen Paul Mckenna's meridian line 'tapping' to beat cravings? If not, I'll demonstrate on Sat.

Full of beer, but not just burgers, I'm aiming for nice fat Donner Kebabs! :P While the wife's away.... ;)

AdminG Beee January 27 2006 8:20 PM EST

?? lbs but beer and kebab don't help

AdminG Beee January 30 2006 2:00 PM EST

272lbs.
Rung 1.

Tezmac January 30 2006 11:10 PM EST

Bah, a week of entertaining clients has hurt the ol progress...

185.19 lbs
rung 4

AdminG Beee January 31 2006 2:44 AM EST

269.5 lbs.
Rung 1.

AdminG Beee February 1 2006 6:47 AM EST

268.5 lbs.
Rung 1.

AdminG Beee February 2 2006 5:12 AM EST

267.5 lbs.

Sukotto [lookingglas] February 4 2006 8:57 PM EST

Well, the family has gone home, the toilet's fixed, the renovations are done, the baby's not sick any more, and I'm mostly recovered from the coughing-up-a-lung cold/sinus-infection. So I guess I should update my list :-). Sorry to vanish on you guys. Things have been tough the last little while.

The good news is that I stuck to my commitment to exercise every day! (Something I'm really proud of)

January:
Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat Sun
    25
weight 193.0
rung 5
26
weight 196.5
rung 5
27
weight 196.0
rung 6
28
weight 197.5
rung 6
29
weight 195.5
rung 6
30
weight 196.5
rung 6
31
weight 196.5
rung 6
         


February:
Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat Sun
    1
weight 197.0
rung 6
2
weight 197.5
rung 6
3
weight 196.0
rung 6
4
weight 199.5
rung 7
 
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