what do you wanna see this month? (in General)

WeaponX August 31 2006 10:43 PM EDT

change month is here...in an hour what do you wanna see?

deifeln August 31 2006 10:43 PM EDT

/me wants pants.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] August 31 2006 10:54 PM EDT

Cleansing fire, and lots of it.

Miandrital August 31 2006 10:56 PM EDT

new supporter item!

QBRanger August 31 2006 11:01 PM EDT

1) get rid of seekers, tanks have a large enough advantage. Or have the AOI have a chance to fool seekers.

2) have the COI, Corn, and AG's give AC bonus like they used to

3) have a way for weapons to be upgraded, the x, more then 7 at a time

4) have the ability to upgrade ammo

5) a VB nerf

Dudster4 August 31 2006 11:03 PM EDT

be able to change your currently named weapons name to something dif for a nominal fee...

Frod August 31 2006 11:04 PM EDT

Ammo upgrading. All I want is ammo upgrading.

QBsutekh137 August 31 2006 11:09 PM EDT

Anything, as long as it doesn't benefit multi-minion teams more than single or two-minion teams. Tired of auras, RoS, GA, AS, blah, blah, blah.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 31 2006 11:16 PM EDT

My team could use a theme song when they go into battle ; D

Slashundhack [We Forge Our Own Stuff] August 31 2006 11:26 PM EDT


QBOddBird August 31 2006 11:45 PM EDT

I'm with Frod, I like how things are, all I want now is ammo upgrading.

[Quoth]The Raven September 1 2006 12:01 AM EDT

The ability to hire a base minion, in addition to the current two options.

Vaynard [Fees Dirt Cheap] September 1 2006 12:10 AM EDT

The two things that come to mind right now:

a) Ammo upgrades: please bring it back! I would love it for a reasonable price once again.

b) Cap DB's: right now a mage can sink all his cash into a pair and neutralize any amount of DX and PTH and thus any tank without insane PTH. Why not add a cap of say 50% to the amount of DX that can be "neutered"? Thus, a tank doesn't have 1.3million DX become useless against 0 DX, and a mage can still learn Evasion and have an imaginary DX advantage. DB's will still be a great advantage, but just not completely overpowering and able to shut off DX.

Bartman September 1 2006 12:42 AM EDT

How about exp for forging?

Karmic Mishap [Soup Ream] September 1 2006 1:59 AM EDT

/me murmurs something about camping or the resale of Central Bank's goods... although tournaments would r0xor too.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] September 1 2006 2:05 AM EDT

We can all agree on the need for ammos upgrades. Interesting idea Vay but more leeway is needed namely for the mages. Would like to see a DD drainer still. The VB Ranger wants would be the deletion of the special use clays. An elven ammy, spell ammy(those outta sell ;), or get tricky with an armor that decreases the x's per hit for that battle. Also...
We Want Designer Denim Jeans!

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 1 2006 2:26 AM EDT

Removal of the confirm page for xfers to your own chars.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 1 2006 7:41 AM EDT

"Cleansing fire, and lots of it."

Oh yeah!

"Anything, as long as it doesn't benefit multi-minion teams more than single or two-minion teams. Tired of auras, RoS, GA, AS, blah, blah, blah."

Seconded! ;)

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] September 1 2006 7:50 AM EDT

My gf after I have to go to Uni in Plymouth in less than 2 weeks.

chappy [Soup Ream] September 1 2006 8:19 AM EDT

I want something for the hermit-like peeps hiding in the hills .. aka the forgers :)

WISH LIST: I want to see an inate skill for forging that everyone can have .. it 'levels' up the more you forge. Sounds pretty simple yea? The higher your forging level the better a forger you are :)

Ambidex September 1 2006 8:24 AM EDT

Isn't that what MPR is?

Flamey September 1 2006 8:24 AM EDT

i want PEANUTS!

QBBarzooMonkey September 1 2006 8:41 AM EDT

I still want a pony. And an Abrams tank. And I wholeheartedly second Ranger's opinion on Seekers and the AoI...


AdminG Beee September 1 2006 10:15 AM EDT

I'd like to see some changes to the economic clans that will enable a user to take some time out of the CB fighting arena and earn a genuine amount of cash that will enable him to jump back into the arena with a suitable amount of cash for an NCB run.

Some kind of economic NCB is what I mean. x months in an economic environment that will allow you to turn your effort into a real chance to create a viable NCB character to aim for the top 10 of the fight ladder without needing USD.
Economic rewards would have to be generated in a fashion that makes it impossible to just be in it for a quick CB / USD transaction at the end. I dunno, you get a % of returns as tokens that can only be used to buy BA and the tokens can't be transferred...?

I have no idea how to control/implement such a thing but hey, you asked what I wanted to see not how I suggest it works...

Shoot for the stars and you may just end up hitting the moon :)

BootyGod September 1 2006 10:18 AM EDT

Well I notice alot of people give suggestions that would help their strategies. Not all but alot of them. Tanks complain about DB, SM teams complain about multi minion teams. So I do the opposite. I will pick what will hurt me the most.

A slight increase to EC so that it becomes at least more usable in a tank ridden world.

Make it so that VB only has it's cut a certain percentage of the time. Whenever it "snicker-snacks"! That would make it more fun anyways. Though you would want to lower or increase the cutting rate depending on frequency of the reduction.

Increase a ToE's resistance to magic. Diversify who is using it.

Reverse the effect of a ToA. Give the DX the priority. With weapons so strong really make the tanks PAY for the damage, not just pop a ToA on one.

Reduce normal shield penalties for kites. They are almost unusable right now and I would LOVE the extra AC of a mith kite if it didn't cost me insane DX. Also would help mages if they didn't effect DD or enchantments so much!

Races. I know it won't get done but I still fine it fun.

Now stuff that just realllyyy helps me.

Forging skill for an account. Not just a character but a skill viewable from the account name page. Would help alot and would keep the balance in the game.

Increas spawning of base lesser tattoos. Would help alot of new players and vets using farms. Reduce prices on existing lesser ones that spawn into store.

Thanks for reading =D

RAMPAGE September 1 2006 10:40 AM EDT

Well someone has to say it.
Reopen CB1 =)

AdminNightStrike September 1 2006 1:20 PM EDT

Fix PL so minions die properly.

AdminShade September 1 2006 1:24 PM EDT

I'd like to see much much more items, more choices and better balance between the (smaller) weapons.

AdminQBVerifex [Serenity In Chaos] September 1 2006 1:55 PM EDT

1) Nerf DB's so they can't make people invincible.
2) Make some mage equipment that, when worn, protects against physical damage (works like Tulkas, each point adds a percentage of physical damage blocked), at the expense of amplifying magic damage done to the mage (FB, MM, CoC, GA, AMF) The equipment also negates any skills the user may have, and gives a penalty to STR and DX of say.. 30% or so, yeah try wearing that Mr. Tank :)
3) One word: Potions!

AdminNightStrike September 1 2006 2:09 PM EDT

Allow supporters to purchase past supporter items in some sort of limited fashion.

AdminNightStrike September 1 2006 2:16 PM EDT

A changelog entry to document the changing of familiar hp levels from whenever it randomly changed to 25%.

Dark Dreky September 1 2006 3:37 PM EDT

I'd like to see some changes to auctions... like, make it so you don't have to set an alarm to actually win a bid!! Maybe a max of three bids thereby forcing bidders bid reasonably and not just the min bid. I have NEVER won an auction and have honestly tried many times, it all comes down to not revolving my life around the CB auction countdown.

Gangsterfied September 1 2006 3:39 PM EDT

I would love forging exp.

Slashundhack [We Forge Our Own Stuff] September 1 2006 4:26 PM EDT

An AK47 and chearleaders!

Maelstrom September 1 2006 4:51 PM EDT

Should AK47s and cheerleaders go together? Do you normally think of one when you think of the other? If so, I worry about you...

RAMPAGE September 1 2006 4:56 PM EDT

I think Slashundhack idea is he has the AK47 and the cheerleaders are down range

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 1 2006 8:05 PM EDT

The only mage item that matters. A Helm of Power, adds to DD spell level, but only for the purposes of AMF.

[CB1]-Kratos(X.x) September 2 2006 3:00 AM EDT

i wonder how many people actually use monks?

I would like to see a new supporter item, anything at all. please...please please please. :-p

AdminNightStrike September 2 2006 3:13 AM EDT

About 4%:

Or about 780 people:


Hope that helps =)

Slashundhack [We Forge Our Own Stuff] September 2 2006 4:03 AM EDT

OK if you don't like that how about a boom stick and a steel chin.

Slashundhack [We Forge Our Own Stuff] September 2 2006 4:25 AM EDT

Besides cheerleaders go with everything like peanut butter.

QBJohnnywas September 2 2006 5:58 AM EDT

Are you comparing cheerleaders to peanut butter or saying you like cheerleaders with peanut butter?

TrueDevil [AAA] September 2 2006 11:19 AM EDT

I would like to see transfer fee for character reduced to only 50 k everytime you transfer it, no additional cost, the transfer fee for the character is seriously ridiculous right now, and the NCB fee to create a big one is crazy.

I just sold my character and it was top 5, Kaiser which cost around 25 mil CB2 and precious time to create for only 7 mil and I still have to pay the transfer fee which is almost 2 mil or around that which is VERY VERY LOW.

I really don't think we need this kind of cash sink, the NCB itself is already huge cash sink and now with tank blender theme going on, more stuff to upgrade which means more cash sink than ever.

QBOddBird September 2 2006 11:23 AM EDT

After being ripped off in a couple fights by the PL bug, I now vote for:

PL deaths being fixed
G_Beee's economic idea. That sounds good.

Thrasher September 2 2006 12:38 PM EDT

I would like to see my NUB increased for another 4 months.

Slashundhack [We Forge Our Own Stuff] September 2 2006 12:57 PM EDT

Both.Ah peanut butter and mustard sandwichs share them with a couple of cheerleaders instant party.

PoisoN September 2 2006 3:53 PM EDT

Something that stops DAWG farming me 600+ times per day, every 30 seconds, for over 4+ hours ;-)

Some nice helpful mage equipment would be nice (yep, I know it's the year of "Tank Blender", but thats what I wanna see this month). At least not another nerf would be nice.

SBW September 2 2006 3:57 PM EDT

no rare auction system, no central bank, camping back... different community, people more active, more humor, just a better game.. even if it means go back to old rules.

[CB1]-Kratos(X.x) September 2 2006 5:56 PM EDT

I believe a more effective magic missile during ranged rounds, and disable the melee magic missile rounds, as it is a missile. This would enable an effect close to that of CoC, in which you can have a melee weapon on magi, similar to the ability to have a ranged weapon on a CoC mage. Do i make any sense here?

QBBarzooMonkey September 2 2006 6:00 PM EDT

That's a neat idea, some kind of ranged only DD spell. Look at Gandalf - he could blast away with magic until he got in close, and then he was pretty darn handy with a sword...

AdminNightStrike September 2 2006 6:03 PM EDT

I imagine that such a mage's effectiveness would be limited to 20DX enchanter cleanup. However, that's still possibly useful if the ranged damage is increased.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 2 2006 6:07 PM EDT


new skill then: Arcane Channelling....

Converts DD trained into psuedo STR during rounds the mage isn't firing, adds to physical damage done with a melee or ranged weapon, does 1/4 of normal DD damage with each hit. The weapon attack acts as a vessel for the DD attack, eliminating AMF blowback.

AdminNightStrike September 2 2006 6:11 PM EDT

So it's a skill that only works with one DD spell? Hmm... that'd be more viable if ranged DD spells were overridden by melee weapons. Like, if you equip a sword and fireball, then you'll use the sword in melee and fireball in ranged. If you equip a bow and fireball, you'll use the bow in ranged and the fireball in melee. Then, the skill adds flexibility instead of being a required counterpart to magic missile.

[CB1]-Kratos(X.x) September 2 2006 6:18 PM EDT

good to see that my idea brought some curiosity...i may have inspired a change :-p YAY ME!!!

Negator September 2 2006 9:29 PM EDT

1 - A new item and/or a new spell/skill. These are probably the toughest things on the wish list, because they can so easily upset game balance. Still, this is exactly what can keep a game like CB fresh. The Amulets, especially the AoI, have been a breath of fresh air. Even though they didn't have near the same impact as the physical damage mod, I feel they have actually added more to the game, since you now have an extra aspect of strategy to manage.

2 - Exp for forging? There has already been a thread where we have discussed pros and cons, and details of how this could work.

Vaynard [Fees Dirt Cheap] September 3 2006 2:23 AM EDT

I know I already had one post with a couple of suggestions, but I just thought of a GOOD one. I would love to see a change to auctions. They work fine as is, but far too many players are discouraged when what they see as a reasonable bid is undone at the last second by an automated bidder. Here are a few solutions I see:

a) Have the auto bid occur 2 hours before the auction ends. Change it so auctions must last 3 hours minimum (if not already).
b) Notification: add a page to confirm your bid on an auction instead of a pop-up. On that page, show if the bid you are making is enough to avoid an Auctioneer bid. This lets a person go back and increase their bid until it is enough if they cannot re-bid later.
c) If an auction ends at below market value, let the auctioneer buy it and immediately place it back in the auctions for another day. Interested players can bid it up if they wish, and after a day it could be deleted. Everyone's happy.

I hope one of those sounds workable. Anyone agree?

PirateKing September 3 2006 3:45 AM EDT

What I want is... ahem...

Firearms and Explosives.

hey now... it would not be a "whaddya want thread" if I did not spout my "firearms and explosives" mantra. :P

AdminNightStrike September 3 2006 4:35 AM EDT

You know, this whole consignment idea is wonderful....... I've been thinking about it a lot. It has awesome possibilities.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 3 2006 4:44 AM EDT

I'm not so sure that it would be much different from really long auctions with a high min bid, but I think the effect could be dramatic.

Slashundhack [We Forge Our Own Stuff] September 3 2006 9:47 PM EDT

Free dental for the minions.

Adminedyit [Superheros] September 4 2006 11:18 AM EDT

unlimited upgrades for the X in the Blacksmith ie. if you can afford it you can get it in one shot.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 5 2006 4:38 AM EDT

I would love to see the crossbows be more effective.
As it is now the exbow and axbow both are useless.

And between the two the exbow is the most useless.
Now that the ammo upgrades are back please give these two higher base damage to increase there effectiveness.
Leave the draining % alone but increase the base damage please!!!!!!

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 5 2006 5:11 AM EDT

A quick idea for Bow and Crossbow changes.

Traditionally, Crossbows are easier to use, slower, have shorter range and pack more of a punch than bows (a generalisation)


First, change the base dex chance to hit, much like melee weapons. Crossbows have 2-H base, Bows 1-H.

Change crossbows to attack on rounds 2 and three (and fire on every round in melee), leave Bows attakcing every other round from round 1 unless arhcery is trained (but have the benefits of archer continue into melee).

Crossbow damage is probably fine, they do slightly more damage than Bows (apart from the ELBow), maybe add a new Crossbow that is on par with ELBow damage.

Add peircing (Like the VB) as an ammo choice, but reduce the base damage on the ammo. Give Crossbows an innate for of this (not as powerful as the VB. Maybe a fixed reduction instead of a percentage?).

Just some ideas. :P

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 5 2006 8:01 AM EDT

Crossbows have 2-H base, Bows 1-H.
I beg to differ. Both are 2 handed weapons.
But the rest is true. Crossbows pack more punch. But generally bows
have larger range.
Adding piercing damage to a crossbow should bring back the balance between bows and xbows.

And xbows doing more damage then bows is not true even a
compound bow does more damage then a xbow of the same lvl.
The only real difference is the base damage of the ammo.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 5 2006 8:05 AM EDT

:P That was just the identification for base to hit chances. Cross bows to use the same as 2-H eapons, Bows, 1-H. Not the amount of hands each wepaon took to use. ;)

As for the damage then, def up crossbow a little. :)

Flamey September 5 2006 8:10 AM EDT

i agree, xbows should do more damage, they do more damage in real life, or whatever.

but we have ELB has highest by 2 points against X-bows, so 2 bows are better than x-bows, a bit outta whack there.

but one can say thats why they are specialty xbows, yeah of course specialty xbows that are completely useless :)

QBJohnnywas September 5 2006 8:16 AM EDT

I'm sorry, but are we really talking about RL here? Lol, I guess an ELB would have been nice to have when I used to do archery. That would have been good for target practice...

I want an upgradeable SoD.....that would be my wish....

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 5 2006 8:24 AM EDT

Sling and Sling Staves! ;)

Sling could use the 1-H base chance to hit and Stave the 2-H. Let all three be used in every round, but have damage lower than Bows and crossbows. :)

Job done. ;)

AdminShade September 5 2006 8:26 AM EDT

Aren't these already used in all 3 ranged rounds?

Flamey September 5 2006 8:27 AM EDT

sling and sling staves, isn't that 2 objects not 3? lol

makes sense though :P

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 5 2006 8:39 AM EDT

Actually, a little more thought on this.

" Although some crossbows (ancient or modern) are drawn using only the unassisted arm strength of the archer, more powerful crossbows required some sort of mechanical device to draw the string. These drawing mechanisms were of many different forms, using levers, ratchets and pulleys in various ways. The use of these devices allowed soldiers to use and fire weapons with a draw force far in excess of what they could have handled with a bow. In the later years of the crossbow it had enough kinetic energy to penetrate any chainmail and most plate armor hit squarely: some reached a draw force of nearly 350 lbf (1600 N), compared to the 60-180lbf (300-900 N) draw force for a longbow. Moreover, crossbows could be kept cocked and ready to shoot for some time with little effort, allowing crossbowmen to aim better and to "cover" a target area, while archers could not keep their powerful bows pulled for long periods of time."

Add a new crossbow (called something like a Windlass) that does a lot of damage.

Could also add a repeating crossbow (see below).

Although crossbows don't have the range of Bows, we could simulate the ability to keep them nocked some how.

How about having Bows use the 1-H base chance to hit and fire every other round from round 1.

While Crossbows fire every other round from round 2 of ranged, use the 2-H base chance to hit, have innate AC reduction and gain a single extra attack in the second round to range to simulate them being nocked.

The repeating crossbow, while keeping the base 2-H chance to hit would be able to fire every round (including melee) from the second round of ranged.

As for slings, keep them as they are now. Attack on every ranged round (from 1) but give slings the 1-H base chance to hit and sling staves the 2-H one. :)

"As a weapon, the sling had several clear advantages. In general, a sling bullet lobbed in a high trajectory could achieve an effective range of around 200 meters — significantly farther than most bows of the period, the arrows of which were usually loosed along relatively flat trajectories that seldom managed to send them beyond 100 meters. Modern authorities vary widely in their estimates of the effective range of ancient weapons and of course bows and arrows could also have been used to produce a long-range arcing trajectory, but ancient writers repeatedly stress the sling's advantage of range."

And make thier ammo very cheap to upgrade! :D

QBJohnnywas September 5 2006 9:01 AM EDT

Actually what I really want is a Dwarven Flame Thrower

BootyGod September 5 2006 10:35 AM EDT

Johnny and GL compliment each other so well don't they? Detailed good feedback... and a Dwarven Flame Thrower.... ;)

I want to see... hmm...

New ways to increase the power/ effects of weapons AND spells.

Gems mainly. To enchanter armor worn by mages and weapons by tanks. Giving weapons AND mages ability to leech, snicker-snack, extra damage, AMF resistance.

So on and so forth. Also would give forgers something new to do. Just my two cents.

QBJohnnywas September 5 2006 10:37 AM EDT

Did you not know that GL is my dad?

BootyGod September 5 2006 10:44 AM EDT

jokes/sarcasm are wasted on me in every way

QBJohnnywas September 5 2006 10:52 AM EDT

Who's joking?!?!? Dad, he doesn't believe me!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

BootyGod September 5 2006 10:56 AM EDT

I want to see a way to make Johnny be quiet.

Is that possible lol?


QBJohnnywas September 5 2006 10:57 AM EDT

Me, quiet? I'm almost as difficult to shut up as...well, as you, lol ;)

QBJohnnywas September 5 2006 10:59 AM EDT

Actually I am going to shut up shortly,but before I go, I would like to see a link in the left hand frame to my user page. The one that I can get to by clicking on my name.

Just one link is all, such a tiny thing, and there is plenty of room in the left hand frame.

(This is now the millionth time I've asked for this. Which considering I first called it the Johnnywas is lazy link is quite funny...)

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 5 2006 11:09 AM EDT

Son, that's enough. ;)

BootyGod September 5 2006 11:13 AM EDT

/me carps GL for bringing such a.... thing... into this poor world.

Hmmm just wish to reiterate my interest in mage skill or account bonus to forging!

phrog September 5 2006 11:22 AM EDT

/me prepare to beat the nearly-mostly dead horse

I have to jump on board with those looking for some change in the auction set up. I just don't like losing an item to an automated bid. I would have gladly paid that amount had I known it would take just a few thousand more. The guessing game is annoying. Besides, the point of an auction for a buyer is to pay as little as possible right?

Slashundhack [We Forge Our Own Stuff] September 5 2006 2:03 PM EDT

Real auctions have people to bid up items .What? game life should be better?

Miandrital September 5 2006 4:15 PM EDT

How about if Central Bank displayed what its bid would be for an auction, so that people can bid above that and not have to worry?

Dudster4 September 5 2006 4:18 PM EDT

How about like Old cb when on the left hand side below the stats options it shows the 5 active threads, you know what i mean?

Maelstrom September 5 2006 6:17 PM EDT

Miandrital, you can see what Central Bank will bid. If the current bid on the item is less than the average price of the item, then Central Bank will bid the next increment. That is all.

I don't know how many times Jon has explained this, but it makes sense to me: it's to protect the seller; to help ensure that they get an amount closer to the value of the item.

I wish that this change month, Jon would make it so people couldn't keep asking the same questions over and over :P
Or maybe just add this "kill the autobidder" request to the FORS list...

Maelstrom September 5 2006 6:20 PM EDT

Oh, and {cb1}lover, the 5 active threads were in CB2 at the start, but since the sidebar is not refreshed as often as the main page, they weren't up-to-date. And keeping them up-to-date just isn't worth the server load...

chappy [Soup Ream] September 9 2006 3:30 PM EDT

/me is still waiting for a change that shakes things up a little :)

Tezmac September 9 2006 3:33 PM EDT

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