Excuse my rant... (in Off-topic)


Godpanda November 18 2006 2:43 PM EST

Like I said, ignore if you want. I just going to type for awhile. and yes... this will probably me some form of drama....



In general, people are starting to get on me nerves. Past the emo teenager and "I'm not understood stuff", people must be getting stupider. Okay, so maybe everyone isn't perfect, but bloody hell, they're not even trying anymore!

In every aspect of society, people are messing up because they too lazy to stop. We pollute the atmosphere and don't stop because it's easier not to. We build better weapons and human literature stagnates. The icecaps melt, temperature rises, magnetic field weakens, and we just keep ignoring it.

Signs point that the earth itself can only last so long. Past end of the world scenarios, scientists have proven that -one day- the world will become uninhabitable for us.

I had a discussion with a friend the other day. We argued about utopias. She said that there is no such thing. But me, I know there is. That if you got rid of the human (or, at least, human nature) you would have true perfection.

But what do I know? I not done ranting yet, but computer about to shut off. Toodles.

AdminShade November 18 2006 2:46 PM EST

hrm, isn't this a bit out of the blue?

TheHatchetman November 18 2006 2:54 PM EST

/me grabs some aerosol cans and starts spraying them outdoors :-P

Its time to take over what Dr. Chaos started

Godpanda November 18 2006 2:54 PM EST

WOOT more rant.

Okay, so as I was saying, people are annoying me.

But let me get past things I can't change now. Because it's not just "people" that annoy me, I annoy myself.

(THIS IS PERSONAL. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW STUFF ABOUT ME TURN AWAY NOW)... Muahaha...

Basically, all people wear masks. They are elaborate, creative, beautiful, hideous things. All people have them. From the happy person who cries themselves to sleep every night, to the jerk who quotes Ghandi at night, all people have different faces.

But, the reason I am getting mad at myself, is simply because my mask is becoming my face. I used it for the longest time for a variation of reasons (for those of you who see me in chat, thats the mask). But now, I want to take it off so badly. I try, I wrench at the cursed thing, and yet it won't move.

So how do I free myself from a fantasy I created for myself? Well, the simple answer is I can't. My true nature seems to be hidden. However, it is still there. I know because I go to school and to work every dang day thinking that I will be myself. I will be my quiet, intelligent, slightly arrogant self. All my faults and positive traits will be shown in a neutral light.

But it hasn't happened yet.

Now, I know I am a bad person. I am cruel, vindictive, hateful, and smart enough to take advantage of those traits. But, behind the mask there is, along with the bad, love. I do love. I care for people. I would do anything if someone needed me to (well... most anything).

So, for now, all I can do is keep trying to remove my mask. I will try, I have sworn to myself that.

But, my real question is, are there others like there who are like that? Who only show others their mask? Who try as hard (if not hrader) then myself at removing it, but aren't able to? If so, how sad... Really, it's a sad day in a society when people can't be themselves for whatever reasons.



OH, and its out of the green. I have blue hair, true, but I prefer out of the green.


OH, OH, and I am not done yet.

Godpanda November 18 2006 3:09 PM EST

MORE STUFF! WOOT!


People are scaring me. There are those out there who think sex with children is okay, that violence is acceptable to stop violence (needed and acceptable are two very different things), that God will save you no matter what happens.

Animals are being driven instinct because man is greedy. People die of starvation so I can eat my Cheerios in the morning. And yet, I preach, and I am educated enough to know that what I , MYSELF, do is wrong! And yet I don't stop it. So I am a hypocrite because I don't care enough to stop what I know is wrong yet I expect others to do their best.

I am poor by most American and 1st world European country standards, and yet, and yet, I have clothes. I eat. I don't have dysentary. I don't fear for my life when I walk through a forest. I walk through a forest!

When did this happen? When was everything I do have acceptable for me to have?

Okay, so now I rambling and not ranting. The point is, quite simply, that when I go to bed in my crappy house, with my blankets, and I wake up and drink water and take a shower, I don't think about it. But I should. But what can I do?

Seriously... what can I do? I want an answer.


QBBast [Hidden Agenda] November 18 2006 3:16 PM EST

*dysentery

Godpanda November 18 2006 3:17 PM EST

/me takes off Bast's mask and sees a beautiful non-crazy person


Somehow... somehow I knew she would respond :)

and too bad I couldn't KEEP the mask off....

Slashundhack [We Forge Our Own Stuff] November 18 2006 3:30 PM EST

The way I see it all of us are DOOMED but what can you do. Until someone takes a serious run at Fusion as a energy source no one is going to give up the stuff that makes life easier. So I guess we are doomed (small D).

Godpanda November 18 2006 3:32 PM EST

Why not just stop taking the energy sources we have at huge rates? Not like we all need a car if society decided we shouldn't use them anymore.


Take away the car, and we just build a better mass transit system for the world. Sneriously, makes no sense.

AdminShade November 18 2006 3:35 PM EST

how would we build that? with lots of money and resources most likely.

eliminate the car, though I don't own one, would definitely kill economy

Slashundhack [We Forge Our Own Stuff] November 18 2006 3:36 PM EST

Wish you could edit the stuff here. Oh well I guess I'll be understood .Yes and don't worry about masks if you don't protect your self some way the evil types will eat your face!

Godpanda November 18 2006 3:37 PM EST

The economy was just fine and dandy before the car.

Simply put, get rid of the car over time. Cut back immediately, and impose strict laws on car companies about gas usage.

Then tell all car manufacturers to phase out personal care sales and go to designing a way for efficient mass transit. All it would take is an interconnection of the current mass transits that most countries have. Granted, trucking would have to be left alone. So would some forms of personal travel. But not everyone has to have a car. Americans are just pampered.

Blossom November 18 2006 4:20 PM EST

I'm split on this one.

If you got rid of humans then nature and the ozone will grow. It'll be really great except their won't be any intelligent life. So what's the point? Animals are too dumb to realize their planet is much more beautiful without humans inhabitting it.

I kind of think we might appreciate it better if we had 6 billion people less and couldn't read and didn't know what numbers were things might be better.

But then you stop dreaming and realize back then you had no leisure time and everyone worked together because otherwise they couldn't survive. During the winter you froze to death. Disease and malnutrition stunted growth.

Go to Africa or someplace. You'll see without technology people are dieing everywhere, and they don't even have to deal with winter. The people there are really puny too, they're all skinny and less than 5 feet tall.

So technology really has helped us live more comfortably, lead better lives, and improved the human race as a whole.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 18 2006 4:39 PM EST

this is where my friend always points out that Utopia actually means "nowhere"...

Sure we personally can behave well, and we can try and help other with out example and ideas; but we just can't wave a magic stick and stop pain from being part of life.

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] November 18 2006 4:53 PM EST

"So technology really has helped us ...."

Where "us" doesn't include the puny, short people who have no winter.

AdminG Beee November 18 2006 4:59 PM EST

Thisd thread is best read drunk. I'm working on it...

QBOddBird November 18 2006 5:02 PM EST

BAST'S RIGHT, YOU FORGOT THE HOBBITS

Wasp [Demon Forging] November 18 2006 6:14 PM EST

Utopia? Atmosphere!? Ice caps!? All too much for me, why should I care, I'll be long dead when things go to pot : ). Arsenal drew with Newcastle... Another poor result : /

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 18 2006 6:34 PM EST

Punishment.

It's a simple as that. There is not enough fear of doing wrong. Oh and taking responsibility for your own actions. It's all too easy to blame someone, anything else.

And now, you can even get rewarded for blaming others.

Blossom November 18 2006 8:01 PM EST

Yes, I meant exactly what I said.

Technology has helped "us" improve. Whereas those who can't afford technology have remained... primitive? Or at least they haven't improved as everyone else has.

I'm sorry, I really thought I did say that less fortunate people suffer from malnutrition and diseases.

Let's not try to twist words around and find reasons to argue, ok Bast?

Shark November 19 2006 2:59 AM EST

you can't have good without evil
you can't have darkness without light
you can't have love without hate
you can't have mountains without valleys
you can't have treasure without trash
you can't have heaven without hell
you can't have yin without yang

TheHatchetman November 19 2006 4:06 AM EST

Oleander, if u take out the car, what then of the areas (like mine) that dont have mass transit? The ones that are so full of nature and crap... Instilling some mass transit would require much construction and damage to the environment... are u really so sure thats a fix?


/me grabs more aerosol and goes back outside

Flamey November 19 2006 4:12 AM EST

Bast, that is correct, that was Blossom's point.

"us" is those who can afford a computer and the internet, as well as those other fancy things, such as, food, water and shelter.

I don't know what you were trying to say Bast, that really was her/his point, if you did read on, at least to my understanding :)

QBJohnnywas November 19 2006 5:11 AM EST

The so called 'improvement' that technology has brought 'Us'...millions of people in Europe and The USA live in poverty, lacking adequate food and shelter. Diseases like TB which were pretty much eradicated from the West in the last hundred years are on the rise. At least in the UK we still have some form of welfare state, if people need it they can get medical attention. How many people in the US cannot afford proper medical care?

Any 'improvement' is purely cosmetic for millions of people. There is no us and them. We're all in the same boat. Even those skinny little stunted growth people......Jeez, technology might be making 'our' lives better, but it doesn't get rid of ignorance......

AdminG Beee November 19 2006 7:56 AM EST

Bleh, now I'm sober and everyone else looks drunk.

We're greedy, selfish and live in a "I'm a victim" society where we want what others have and want the same others to fix lifes problems.
Makes me sick to my stomach sometimes. I'm many things, greedy, selfish and want others to fix lifes problems but I'm also a realist. The only thing that has changed with humanity over the last 2000 years is communication. Now we know within minutes what's happening anywhere in the world so we just get to hear quicker about all the bad things that have been going on in the world since "civilisation" began.

I live in a nice house, have a great family and drive a 4x4 that spews out too many noxious and harmful emissions. I'm helping to kill the planet and based on a recent survey I live my lifestyle in a manner that suggests if everyone did similar we would need almost 2 planets to live on. I'm too busy in my own insular little world to "make a difference" to everyone else's so I'm just going to get on with it for the meantime. Realism...
Put it in a box and file it at the back of your brain or it will screw with your head for the rest of your life.

People live, people die: the only constant thing in life is Battle Allocation.

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] November 19 2006 8:42 AM EST


And ignorance, Beee. That's pretty constant. Or at least consistent. ;)

Godpanda November 19 2006 1:17 PM EST

Oh GOODY. A game full of defeatists! SWEET!

First thing first, my response to the responses about my responses to my original rant.

Hatchet... ever heard of roads? Do they exist in your area? Tear em down and put up mass transit. Less damage to environment after dealing the original damage. Why that is sad, the lack of deadly fumes filling the air should be a good thing.

I not saying that theres an easy solution. What I am saying is that there IS a freaking solution and someone needs to get off their rears and stop hoarding their cash and do it. Besides me, of course, that would take effort...


Second of all, and this is a -very- annoying thing for me, ignorance is NOT a constant. Ignorance is not everywhere. Telling yourself that things can't change because everyone is ignorant is cowardice.

There is only fear in our world. Fear of losing it all, your life, your job, what little sanity you have carved for yourself. So people put their heads in their little holes and forget about the things they don't believe they can affect. Then others, who may be wiser or smarter, call them ignorant of the problems. Yet, these same intellectually challenged people do nothing.

There is no ignorance that isn't allowed.

Shark, quite simply, (and I quote from a man named Philip Peoples) your opinion is wrong. You may have good without evil. Heaven can exist without hell. These aren't things that may only exist in equal balance. They are as great and singular as you wish them to be. Personally, I find it difficult to believe in a hell simply because it's in a book. There also gigantic talking rabbits in books, and though I believe in them, doesn't make it more or less true.


I digress... will continue in next post.

Godpanda November 19 2006 1:30 PM EST

Technology is a simple and beautiful thing. It gives the oppurtunity to improve society in every way. To cure sickness, end poverty, stop wars, and make the world a better place... But you know what? Even this beautiful gift was destroyed utterly by human nature.

Human kind has the ability to end half the diseases in the world. What will it take? Money, as all things do. Yet, it would cross religious and social boundries to do that. So people say no. Pure selfishness here. That your beliefs should be more important then another's exitense is relatively disgusting.

But who am I to preach? I am no better. I will try to change that one day, but I can't right now. Can't. I am mentally and physically not prepared.

All I know is, I don't sleep well anymore. That I wake up sweating some nights because I know in my heart that children are dying. I don't deal with that thought very well. Before I go to sleep each night, I know I have done nothing with my life and that when I die I will have been wasted flesh and blood.

You tell me how I should deal with that. The box doesn't work for me, because my thoughts rage too much.

... rants are fun...

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] November 19 2006 1:33 PM EST

There is no way you could effectively create mass transit that can accomodate for everybody, especially here in Britain, there are places which even if the system ran through the exact centre, it would still be around a 30 minute walk from the house to reach it.
It may be a solution that has been offered, but it certainly isn't a sensible solution, it's not even like it would be difficult to implement, you just couldn't do it.
In my opinion, people like you who regurgitate the same environmentalist crap that isn't remotely logical annoy me more than chavs (yes, this is an overexaggeration).
There are many solutions we have to problems but they aren't implemented because they are not practical, cars that run on water are a great idea but have you seen how much they cost to make?

Godpanda November 19 2006 1:38 PM EST

So, in effect, Zoglog believes that once the gas runs out we will learn to fly.

I'm not a environmentalist. It's just a fact. One day gas will run out. The car companies don't have a current way to replace the cars. Mass transit benefits those who DON'T have money to pay for a car. Simply, it's either put mass transit now, when cars still exist, and walk the 30 minutes. Or you can put it off, and never go anywhere far again. Unless you have horses...

Flamey November 19 2006 3:07 PM EST

they're called legs, I think people should use them, even if they have a bloody car.

Most Environmentally friendly things, like the car run on water, solar energy and the like, is expensive, way more expensive than what we are doing now, but you know what? people are working on it, they are making those things cheaper, they're finding even better solutions, you can't click your fingers to make everything swell in the world.

Money, which, apparently, is so important in this world, is being used environmentally, you can't see we're not doing anything.

water-run cars, wow, if the whole Australia used them, we might be screwed, we're suffering the worst drought on record, I believe, so that really isn't a good idea.

solar energy, okay, money aside, it takes up a crap load of room, environmentally friendly? sure!, we just have to wipe out some wildlife and habitat to make them.

anything else I should argue against with my simple, child, fourteen year old mind?

Flamey November 19 2006 3:10 PM EST

you can't say** we're not doing anything.

Also, yes, gas, petrol and fuel, whatever you want to call it, will run out, but hey, we still got, what is it? 50 years? 100 years? amazing what technology does for us over a short amount of time, so give it some time, right now, we've got those fossil fuels, and we're using them, do you think the world will end before they run out?

AdminQBVerifex [Serenity In Chaos] November 19 2006 3:14 PM EST

Oleander, I respect you for having somewhat coherent thoughts even though it seems like you are simply "raging" against the machine in your own head. But I think you need to step back and get some perspective. Things are not as bad as you think they are.

Yes, a lot of people don't pay attention to the bad things happening in the world. Yes, it can be frustrating to enjoy life when so some other people cannot. But even though there are bad things happening in the world, there are a lot of good things happening as well. See if you can make your own good thing happen, and then be happy about it. You may not have realized this, but you absolutely must be happy. If you want to fix the world, but you are miserable in the process, you will still lead an ultimately miserable life.

See if you can make changes or modifications to your life to make it less-impact on the world, then try to get some of your friends and family to do the same, that is all you can do, and you should be proud of what you yourself are doing. Don't take responsibility for the entire world, unless of course you are a multi-billionaire, and in that case, you should take responsibility for the entire world.

Flamey November 19 2006 3:19 PM EST

Bill Gates? :P

From what I hear, he has donated quite a large amount of money to charity, is that right? ;)

Godpanda November 19 2006 3:45 PM EST

Which is better, a man with 100 billion donating a billion or a man with 1000 donating 10? The man who donates the billion of course, but philosophically, the dent was equal for both men.

Instead of trying to directly answer Flamey, I just going to change my rant a bit. Or continue with it, you can decide.


Today's problems stem from a mental set that people aren't willing to leave. The set of mind that made people think animals couldn't go extinct because God wouldn't let them, the set of mind that the earth is stronger then mankind.

The problem, at it's source, is that this way of thinking is utterly obsolete. It was fine in late 19th century, but this is the 21st century and is completely bogus.

Humankind can easily destroy this earth. I don't mean damage, I don't mean wipe clean of life, I mean destroy a gigantic hunk of rock floating in existence.

We can continue on our path. Pollute the world because technology hasn't let us down before. As quick as we needed something it was there. The numbers aren't the same anymore!

The population is 6 billion! 100 years ago it was less then a fourth that. Of the 6 billion living, breathing, thinking, loving, caring people out there, most of them are going to die because the others didn't care.

From the metropolises of the U.S. to the deserts of China, people are dying simply because the mind set hasn't changed.

People sit back and say wait for the advancement. Then we can change. For the entire history of mankind, things evolved. What everyone seems to be accepting now is that we have to devolve. We must give up our luxuries and gas, because were too lazy to continue to change.


Fine, there are those of you who wish so much to maintain your greed and laziness. Fine, keep it, but remember that you can't have that without basic things that humans no longer consider. Are health in general weakens, war threatens constantly (even though governments won't admit it), the bomb dropped on Hiroshima was nothing compared to the bombs countries wield now.

If you want to be lazy, you need to keep the world advancing. Tell a politician that you want to be lazy, and that when the gas runs out you will have to walk, so he better have a darn electrical car waiting for you... and heaven help him if it's not air conditioned.



We are so far past putting things off. Ignoring them because it's easier to. We are so fearfully far from being able to look at a forest and thinking of it as standard. Nature is dying, and humans are the plague thats consumes it.


I know this sounds like I am mad at people on this game, but I'm not. I am mad at the corporations who know its true but don't care, I am mad at Bill Gates because he made darn sure his donations were known by everyone, I am mad at myself for not doing once dang thing different from yesterday to today. But at least I yelled at people who can't change anymore then I can. That makes me decent... right?

QBJohnnywas November 19 2006 5:21 PM EST

A donation of a billion or a donation of ten are equal; it's not the amount it's the act of donation that counts here.

In a similar vein, you may not be able to change the World by yourself, you may feel helpless in the face of it. So take some action. There are plenty of things you can do that help the planet and change the world around you. You may not have the money to donate, but you can get educated. For instance: reduce your carbon footprint, recycle, learn about the things you can do. Then pass some of that information onto other people. Encourage the people you know to do the same. Get them to encourage the people they know and so on and so on.

You may not be able to have the impact on the bigger picture, but if more people get involved with the smaller details, eventually all those smaller details join up and become one big detail.....

Underage Drinking [Battle Royale] November 19 2006 7:09 PM EST

i like take that its our laziness, well the earth as i see it is a house, that is dirty and over populated

Godpanda November 22 2006 1:01 PM EST

Okay, new "rant". But this one isn't quite a rant.


I know it seems that I hate the world and (more specifically) humankind. But I really don't, it just frustrates me. So, to remind myself of why I love this world, I put a list together of all the GOOD things it has to offer.

I love the feeling of a cold wind on a chill day and how the red and brown leaves wil blow around you like a storm.

I love how people can sometimes do something completely random and kind, when it was completely unlooked for.

I cherish the feeling of cold shower after a long day of work.

I love watching red sunsets, call me what you will. Any amount of beauty in the world is great.

I love listening to Bach, then flying over to KoRn, and ending on a little random ambient/techno.

I like the feeling of waking up in the morning and it being super cold, but warm underneath my blankets.

I love this: <Ranger> vs Jayuu and his AMF/MgS and TSA, i still do over 400k a hit with my MM on his tank
<Ranger> while his MH does less than 50k a hit to my wall. I can only imagine using your bare hands on my titanium wall

I love watching lightning storms.

I love talking to a friend for 5 hours straight about life (same friend with utopia stuff).

I love watching clouds go by.

I like seeing penguins swim. Seriously.

I love going over hundreds of different strategies and knowing each one bites but still wanting to try them.

I love the emotion that a book can arouse in a person that allows it to.

I love paint, any color.

I love sitting in the middle of a desert and just staring at the stars (while watching feet for crawlies, of course).

I love crawlies.

I like the word acid. Just a cool word.

Lastly, I love that in a world with so many problems, there is still love and beauty and kindness and all that sob stuff. Wish there was more.

Toodles for now.

P.S. I also love the word Toodles... if you haven't noticed.

Godpanda November 22 2006 2:05 PM EST

I love this.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=lc18o5YRGYw&mode=related&search=

Continuum November 28 2006 2:31 PM EST

It's the creamsicle effect:

When you first take it out of the freezer and get to the outer layer, it's frozen and tastless..you keep eating it for a while and the flavour starts to get stronger, you get to the middle and there it is, your saviour, the cream filling.
This thread is closed to new posts. However, you are welcome to reference it from a new thread; link this with the html <a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001xCg">Excuse my rant...</a>