Idea to boost single minions (in General)
November 24 2006 4:49 PM EST
Since single minions have life to tough, why not just let them equip any item they want. From the TSA to the MgS including the tattoo.
That would give them some loving.
Ranger: stop writing yourself such interesting scripts...share the wealth!
I can just picture it now...a 400 AC ToE wearing tank.
November 24 2006 4:56 PM EST
Why not Slayer?
If someone can do that, i do not think they will have such an advantage. Remember it is only 1 kill slot. Imagine the massive FB's and CoC's they will face as a single minion.
yeah, nothing unbalanced about 4-5 mil dex AND 10 mil STR...not one thing...
can you figure all the str/dex gear upped to an insane degree with a ToA and a massive BoNE/exbow combo??
No this cant work
November 24 2006 5:04 PM EST
Look at SNKs single minion character when it was one minion.
First remember that to get 400 AC your going to have massive, I mean massive dex penalties and the only bonus you'll get for strength is TG's. For 400AC you cannot use a MgS and your AMF will have a large penalty, thereby reducing the effective xp you are using. You have to use adam/TG/SC/MS/CML and HOD to get over 350 AC.
If you want a TOA tank with armor, fine. TSA/MgS/EG/EC/EB or DB/HOE. So lots of str, enough dex, a lot of hp BUT.. it is one minion with 1 kill slot to face all that FB damage/face all the MM's, all the uber tanks with their enchanter buffs starting in round 1.
well yes but a 2mil pr 1single minion has better stats (tank) then a tank team with 4 minions even if you put all your exp in buffing the tank. And then you have to worry about the stat reduction.
Where for single tank only need a small amf against decay. And no EC is big enough to wipe out 10 mil str (i presume it will be much much higher) and 6 mil dex
November 24 2006 5:15 PM EST
How do people get 10 Mil str and 6 mil dex?
Perhaps 5 Mil str using a TOA AND a TSA. Perhaps 3 Mil dex using a TOA and all elven gear but then your magic defense suffers. You can use a MgS but then you cannot have a decent protection or GA. You can not even use AMF to prevent vs base decays.
If I remember, SNK with his TOA had 3M dex and 1.5M str., with 2M HP at 1.7M MPR.
Remember if a tank decides on 5M str, 1M has to be in BL or archery, lowering the xp available to dex/hp/enchantments.
If they use AMF, then no MgS and quite a vulnerability to FB/MM/CoC.
Silly naysayers. :D
I think it's a good idea. As it is now, any single tank who wants to have good equipment and a tattoo has to either give something up, or hire another minion.
Single minion teams (especially tanks) aren't really as common (or potentially as powerful) as multi minion teams.
I know I'd like to use a MCM and CoI on my single mage without having to give up my tattoo.
November 24 2006 7:19 PM EST
Single minion ToA UC tank with the usual HoE, Helms, AoF, Elven Boots AND the Gi and Elven Cloak.....nice!
I like the idea, but the choice to go single minion is also to accept that you cannot have the flexibility of a multiple minion team. For a lot of the time it's about making tough strat choices. But it would be nice to get some more AC on a guy. It's hard work killing people when they get to wear clothes and I'm just there in my tattoo and my boots and gloves....it's no wonder nobody wants to love me....
November 24 2006 7:27 PM EST
Of course what would be really good would be if the AoI worked for single minions...now that I would love!
November 25 2006 5:56 PM EST
I'm going to get a rough ride... :)
November 25 2006 6:49 PM EST
Well, there could be _some_ exemptions...like wear power shield with tattoo, for example.
November 25 2006 6:58 PM EST
how about some kind of item, that can equiped by anyone.... but it only adds bonus to 1 character....
and to prevent it from being able for people with 4 minion teams to wear it with no penalty.... make it just beef 1 character... and pumble the other 1-3 characters.... so that if you are a 4 minion team and want to wear it... its pointless
November 25 2006 7:24 PM EST
well, I won't mind the other 3 minions suffering and boosting only the minion wearing it since the other 3 minions only serve as meatshields.
Sut...MgS ToA tanks would be taking you out by 500k MpR...
November 26 2006 11:41 AM EST
A single minion tank would never hit Sut at 500k MPR, unless he has better than Freed's items. Especially in missile.
And a 4M FB even with a +50MgS and +50TSA will still do quite a lot of damage to a single minion even before melee starts.
November 26 2006 10:20 PM EST
MgS plus ToA would be pretty tough, though, I would admit... But it would be a nice leveller against Evasion. *smile*
And remember, if I were a single mage too, I would be able to do crazy stuff too, yeah? Not sure what...the exemptions would have to be balanced in and of themselves, a headache that Jonathan probably doesn't want to have to deal with. *smile*
November 27 2006 12:51 AM EST
People would have to hit him first, so no 500k MPR tanks aren't going to, letting ToA tanks wear MgS' isn't going to make them hit him, he does have the biggest evasion and sut if you would, the number is? somewhere over (100)?
indeed it would have a lot DX but i don't think its enough.
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