Idea to boost single minions (in General)


QBRanger November 24 2006 4:49 PM EST

Since single minions have life to tough, why not just let them equip any item they want. From the TSA to the MgS including the tattoo.

That would give them some loving.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 24 2006 4:52 PM EST

Ranger: stop writing yourself such interesting scripts...share the wealth!

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 November 24 2006 4:54 PM EST

I can just picture it now...a 400 AC ToE wearing tank.

QBRanger November 24 2006 4:56 PM EST

Why not Slayer?

If someone can do that, i do not think they will have such an advantage. Remember it is only 1 kill slot. Imagine the massive FB's and CoC's they will face as a single minion.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 24 2006 4:57 PM EST

yeah, nothing unbalanced about 4-5 mil dex AND 10 mil STR...not one thing...

Brakke Bres [Ow man] November 24 2006 4:58 PM EST

can you figure all the str/dex gear upped to an insane degree with a ToA and a massive BoNE/exbow combo??

No this cant work

QBRanger November 24 2006 5:04 PM EST

Look at SNKs single minion character when it was one minion.

First remember that to get 400 AC your going to have massive, I mean massive dex penalties and the only bonus you'll get for strength is TG's. For 400AC you cannot use a MgS and your AMF will have a large penalty, thereby reducing the effective xp you are using. You have to use adam/TG/SC/MS/CML and HOD to get over 350 AC.

If you want a TOA tank with armor, fine. TSA/MgS/EG/EC/EB or DB/HOE. So lots of str, enough dex, a lot of hp BUT.. it is one minion with 1 kill slot to face all that FB damage/face all the MM's, all the uber tanks with their enchanter buffs starting in round 1.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] November 24 2006 5:09 PM EST

well yes but a 2mil pr 1single minion has better stats (tank) then a tank team with 4 minions even if you put all your exp in buffing the tank. And then you have to worry about the stat reduction.
Where for single tank only need a small amf against decay. And no EC is big enough to wipe out 10 mil str (i presume it will be much much higher) and 6 mil dex

QBRanger November 24 2006 5:15 PM EST

How do people get 10 Mil str and 6 mil dex?

Perhaps 5 Mil str using a TOA AND a TSA. Perhaps 3 Mil dex using a TOA and all elven gear but then your magic defense suffers. You can use a MgS but then you cannot have a decent protection or GA. You can not even use AMF to prevent vs base decays.

If I remember, SNK with his TOA had 3M dex and 1.5M str., with 2M HP at 1.7M MPR.

Remember if a tank decides on 5M str, 1M has to be in BL or archery, lowering the xp available to dex/hp/enchantments.

If they use AMF, then no MgS and quite a vulnerability to FB/MM/CoC.

Tyriel [123456789] November 24 2006 6:19 PM EST

Silly naysayers. :D

I think it's a good idea. As it is now, any single tank who wants to have good equipment and a tattoo has to either give something up, or hire another minion.

Single minion teams (especially tanks) aren't really as common (or potentially as powerful) as multi minion teams.

I know I'd like to use a MCM and CoI on my single mage without having to give up my tattoo.

QBJohnnywas November 24 2006 7:19 PM EST

Single minion ToA UC tank with the usual HoE, Helms, AoF, Elven Boots AND the Gi and Elven Cloak.....nice!


I like the idea, but the choice to go single minion is also to accept that you cannot have the flexibility of a multiple minion team. For a lot of the time it's about making tough strat choices. But it would be nice to get some more AC on a guy. It's hard work killing people when they get to wear clothes and I'm just there in my tattoo and my boots and gloves....it's no wonder nobody wants to love me....

QBJohnnywas November 24 2006 7:27 PM EST

Of course what would be really good would be if the AoI worked for single minions...now that I would love!

AdminShade November 25 2006 5:56 PM EST

I'm going to get a rough ride... :)

QBsutekh137 November 25 2006 6:49 PM EST

Well, there could be _some_ exemptions...like wear power shield with tattoo, for example.

Nifty idea.

Hyrule Castle November 25 2006 6:58 PM EST

how about some kind of item, that can equiped by anyone.... but it only adds bonus to 1 character....

and to prevent it from being able for people with 4 minion teams to wear it with no penalty.... make it just beef 1 character... and pumble the other 1-3 characters.... so that if you are a 4 minion team and want to wear it... its pointless

eh...? eh!

Kong Ming November 25 2006 7:24 PM EST

well, I won't mind the other 3 minions suffering and boosting only the minion wearing it since the other 3 minions only serve as meatshields.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 25 2006 7:27 PM EST

Sut...MgS ToA tanks would be taking you out by 500k MpR...

QBRanger November 26 2006 11:41 AM EST

Novice,

A single minion tank would never hit Sut at 500k MPR, unless he has better than Freed's items. Especially in missile.

And a 4M FB even with a +50MgS and +50TSA will still do quite a lot of damage to a single minion even before melee starts.

QBsutekh137 November 26 2006 10:20 PM EST

MgS plus ToA would be pretty tough, though, I would admit... But it would be a nice leveller against Evasion. *smile*

And remember, if I were a single mage too, I would be able to do crazy stuff too, yeah? Not sure what...the exemptions would have to be balanced in and of themselves, a headache that Jonathan probably doesn't want to have to deal with. *smile*

Flamey November 27 2006 12:51 AM EST

People would have to hit him first, so no 500k MPR tanks aren't going to, letting ToA tanks wear MgS' isn't going to make them hit him, he does have the biggest evasion and sut if you would, the number is? somewhere over (100)?

indeed it would have a lot DX but i don't think its enough.
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