Bug: can't auction stack of Slayer Arrows (in General)

AdminShade November 29 2006 4:21 PM EST

Note: this is not a thread for me to promote them, I will sell them differently :)

The stack in question: 3,708 Slayer Arrows [15x1] (+0) 3,709

The reason it can't be auctioned is that it doesn't have a worth of 5k, yeah right.

A base dagger with a NW of $24 can be auctioned, because it's worth is higher than 5k.

My stack however, have a higher NW than a base dagger (or any puny item) and have a worth of let's say, well over 10k (in which 10k would be my min bid to sell it at) and can't be placed for auction.

Can't the auctioning system be changed so that useless weapons can't be auctioned but stacks of ammo below that '5k worth' can be put up for auction, or should I just suck up and buy 100 more of them to be able to auction them? stupid imo!

Miandrital November 29 2006 4:25 PM EST

Agreed, a couple days ago I saw a base whip in the auctions. If you can't even auction slayer arrows, how did the base whip get into auctions?

Kong Ming November 29 2006 7:30 PM EST

I have a bunch of explosive shots that cannot be placed in auctions. I assumed its because of the same reason?

QBRanger November 29 2006 8:29 PM EST

This is an old problem. I think there have been many a previous thread about it.

Apparently it is low on the list of things to fix to make the game better.

TrueDevil [AAA] November 29 2006 11:30 PM EST

I've been bugged with this problem too for quite a while, most people really prefer to buy a stack of 2-3 k special arrows, 4-5 k seems too much sometimes.

Kong Ming November 29 2006 11:33 PM EST

And the irony is the auctioneer is able to place small bunch of arrows, and bolts into auction.

AdminJonathan November 29 2006 11:55 PM EST

it's entirely based on interpolating previous auction values. blame whoever put a low buy now on his slayers in the past...

"the irony is the auctioneer is able to place small bunch of arrows, and bolts into auction"

why is that ironic? that's one way fresh data gets into the system.

QBsutekh137 November 29 2006 11:57 PM EST

There are no overrides? E.g. using some sort of status such as being rare to allow an auction regardless of deemed worth?

AdminJonathan November 30 2006 12:04 AM EST

"entirely" is a synonym for "there are no overrides," yes :)

AdminShade November 30 2006 1:48 AM EST

so all we have to do is get some useless items in auction and let people buy them for too low prices so they get out of the auction system, fair enough.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 30 2006 4:41 AM EST

I smell daggers, tulwars etc going on for 1CB buy nows! ;)

Kong Ming November 30 2006 4:54 AM EST

So if we do that for every single item, everyone will not be able to auction anymore?

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 30 2006 5:42 AM EST

Who's gonna put a Morg in with a buy out of 1CB though? ;)

Kong Ming November 30 2006 6:28 AM EST

To prevent buying of transfer fees?

Kong Ming November 30 2006 6:31 AM EST

*paying I mean ;)

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 30 2006 6:53 AM EST

Nah I mean;

"So if we do that for every single item, everyone will not be able to auction anymore?"

If we put Dagers, Tulwars etc in for 1CB buyouts, enough sell and the AH no longer takes them for auction.

For that to happen for all items, people would have to put up morgs and other rares for low prices as well, and who's gonna want to put a morg in the AH at 1CB buyout, when just anyone could snatch it! ;)

Jon, a quesiton this raises.

If a non rare item (like a dager) is sold in this fashion, so that the AH no longer takes them, as they don't spawn in the AH, how could the AH ever be pursuaded to take them again?

I assume if this was to happen to morgs (Pirces lowered until you can't sell them in the AH), when one was spawned by the AH (or black market) and sold for high enough, it would allow any morgs to be put back in?

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 30 2006 6:57 AM EST

The AH wouldn't take a base dager, but i've put some other low end wepaons in the AH for 4 hours for a 1CB cost. ;) Let's try to buy/sell them until the AH won't take them any more. :P

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 30 2006 7:06 AM EST

Right, I put into auction;

A Long Sword [24x1] (+0)
A Cutlass [14x1] (+9)
A Rapier [10x1] (+0)
A Sabre [12x1] (+0)
A Main Gauche [6x1] (+0)

They all got bought.

Got them back and I oculd only put the cutless back into auctions! ;)

So no more Long Swords, Rapiers, Sabres or Main Gauches.

And with enough sales, no more cutlasses either! ;)

Who's up for removing things like DCM from the AH? >;)

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 30 2006 7:08 AM EST

Oh, and if anyone has a high NW item of any of those, try to put it into the AH, see if NW makes a difference.

If not, this could be done with things like a base comp bow, to stop all the 3 mil NW on'es being sold in the AH...

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 30 2006 7:19 AM EST

It's based somewhat on NW. I can put;

A Long Sword [24x3] (+3)

back in, and that's only a little larger than the base one that won't go back.

Oh, and that cutless is taking a while. ;)

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 30 2006 7:23 AM EST

OK, I think I've got to the bottom of this.
The seocnd LS had a NW of $6059.

I tihnk the AH will take *anything* with a NW of over 5K, no matter about previous bid amounts.

But anything under 5K NW will only be accepted, if previous auction prices are high enough.


AdminShade November 30 2006 11:11 AM EST

NW is a part in the calculation, if you have something of $5,000 NW and auction it, it will be accepted if it sells for $5,000.

If a $10k NW item sells for $5k then a $9k item of the same type won't be able to be auctioned ;)

AdminNightStrike November 30 2006 12:14 PM EST

So it's NW minus sell price?

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 30 2006 12:34 PM EST

Then why could I keep placing the cutless up for 1 dollar sales?

AdminNightStrike November 30 2006 12:55 PM EST

Interpolation usually implies multiple sets of historic data. Maybe you need a bunch of auctions to bring the weighted average down.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 30 2006 2:06 PM EST

Check past auctions. ;) Johnny and I sold it a bunch! ;)

QBJohnnywas November 30 2006 2:14 PM EST

Yup, over and over and over and over and over...... all in the name of research.......:/

AdminShade November 30 2006 2:26 PM EST

Then perhaps the interpolation simply takes some more time :)

AdminNightStrike November 30 2006 2:32 PM EST

Maybe it filters out GL and JW :) :)

QBJohnnywas November 30 2006 2:36 PM EST

Now that really wouldn't surprise me. Maybe we need to be drunk to make it work.

QBsutekh137 November 30 2006 3:39 PM EST

Well, the interpolations might definitely wait to calculate until cache flush... See if you can sell a cutlass tomorrow...
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