One-hour feature request thread (in General)


AdminJonathan March 9 2007 5:05 PM EST

What feature would you like, that you think would take me at most one hour to implement?

I have a pretty good list of big features I want to work on, but sometimes I'd rather take a break and knock off a small one instead. So I'm open for suggestions.

Dark Dreky March 9 2007 5:07 PM EST

Mmm. Lower weapon allowance. Or do whatever it is you think should been done. Does that take more than an hour? If so... a completely random new supporter item would be nice... =)

QBJohnnywas March 9 2007 5:16 PM EST

Magically make 20 million CB$ appear on my main character.

No? OK, a graph mapping my Most Powerful Blow, picking my weekly MPB and mapping it that way across the months. I can do that myself through the magic of spreadsheet, but I'd just like to see how fast my damage rises as a visual compared to my PR and Score.


;)

bartjan March 9 2007 5:17 PM EST

Dunno about the MTBF (Mean Time Before Fixed) of these, but what about:

- Ammo merging. If 2 or more bundles are equal in enchantment, there are 2 options: free and almost free. Why?

- Improve rounding for PL damage. PL minions find it difficult to die, as they often are left with a handful of HP instead of a lethal amount.

- Enlighten us on how Weapon Allowance is measured. Is it 2/3 of all XP (as per Changelog), or is it any of the other formulas floating around?

- I like the alternative chat client. I would like it even more if some minor bugs are fixed (not your job), made into an applet (not your job) and installed on the CB server, as an alternative choice for the normal client (could be your job ;)

There are no doubt lots more tine requests I could make, but it would take me more than 1 hour to remember them again ;)

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] March 9 2007 5:21 PM EST

i have no idea how long it would take, but perhaps this change:

http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001wbV

hopefully that is a short one!

bartjan March 9 2007 5:22 PM EST

Speaking of graphs, the Clan's graph for rank is not that useful, as rank often can be very high (as a number) which makes the range on the scale too large. Is it possible to filter out the 5% worst ranks for your clan, for example?

QBOddBird March 9 2007 5:26 PM EST

I'd like a Play-by-Play On/Off/Lose button somewhere where I don't have to fight to select it, please. ^_^

GO PATS March 9 2007 5:27 PM EST

I would like to see named arrows be a little pumped up... not alot, just a tad, I know I know archers are uber blah blah blah... But spending $5 on naming some arrows should give a bit more of a bonus than it does...

Monkeyboy March 9 2007 5:34 PM EST

Dunno if this would take an hour, but I'd like to see a "user/clan" stat on $CB earned by day/week/month/year from fighting. Experience earned would also be an interesting stat to track.

AdminLamuness March 9 2007 5:35 PM EST

Highly unlikely, but...
1. Bring back the bank
2. Bring back tournaments

MrC [DodgingTheEvilForgeFees] March 9 2007 5:46 PM EST

"2. Bring back tournaments"

That would be great.

I doubt I'd use them much myself, but they were very good for keeping the game competitive for those who don't consistently have a lot of time on their hands.

It'd certainly make the game much more interesting for me.

What's more is that I don't think it takes a whole lot of work on your part (if it's run the same as last time).
I may have missed an explanation somewhere but I also don't believe it's likely to throw things out of balance when the NUB and NCB are bigger bonuses than anything you'd get from a tourney character.

Tourneys regularly had a lot of participants, they never caused any major problems (as far as I know anyway) and surely there are a few people around willing to run them?

[T]Vestax March 9 2007 5:52 PM EST

I'd like to see a list of Named Items. It doesn't need to show any enchantment levels. I just want to see what people name their stuff. People spend money, and sometimes a great deal of thought, when they get an item named. I think its about time that investment was shared with the rest of us. Right down to the named $0 NW sling.

[T]Vestax March 9 2007 6:02 PM EST

I would also like to see the Most Powerful Blow stat for the week or day. It's nice to see your most powerful blow ever, but eventually you change your strat or your weapons, this doesn't always lead to a greater MPB.

Currently the system doesn't really give us any indication of who has the most powerful blow as of today. I highly doubt that Atomicboy's Conundrum currently deals over 1.3 billion points of damage.

There isn't a real need to eliminate the current "best ever" stat, just add a daily or weekly stat was well. Optimally I'd like to see it work the way clan points do, but a reset every cache flush is more likely to fit within the given hour limit.

QBRanger March 9 2007 6:14 PM EST

Being able to choose to reset your MPB is my first choice.

Second choice is being able to merge all the ammo on a character, including that ammo that is currently equipped.

Third choice would be to raise the ammo limit from 15k to about 25k.

bartjan March 9 2007 6:16 PM EST

Instead of not firing the last piece of named ammo, can it just be unequipped instead? Same effect, except that it saves me 1 step when shopping ;)

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] March 9 2007 6:17 PM EST

I'd like a big, red ''Ashilizator'' in the sidebar, going straight to my personal page.

Asked before? Yep.
Lazy? Yep.

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] March 9 2007 6:24 PM EST

a forgers whacky time!

AdminG Beee March 9 2007 6:26 PM EST

Yes, a reset to MPB would be nice.

QBJohnnywas March 9 2007 6:28 PM EST

"Ashilizator, 6:17 PM EST
I'd like a big, red ''Ashilizator'' in the sidebar, going straight to my personal page.

Asked before? Yep.
Lazy? Yep."


Ah, the old 'Johnnywas Is Lazy' link!! (you can do this with Verifex's script....it's what finally shut me up about it after months of bringing it up! ;) )

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] March 9 2007 6:29 PM EST

most of these requests can be done with verifex's script!

SNK3R March 9 2007 6:29 PM EST

You guys are just jealous about the MPB I set. :P (Relax, people, it's a joke -- take it as one!)

Comma placers in transfer logs for NW would be nice...

QBJohnnywas March 9 2007 6:31 PM EST

Small, that's a good thing no?
We don't want to overwork Jon now do we?!?! lol ;)

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] March 9 2007 6:32 PM EST

Oh, SNK3R does have a good idea, It would make reading of large numbers much easier...

QBOddBird March 9 2007 6:37 PM EST

I second bringing back tournaments.
I second the 'Named Items List' idea.

Juzza March 9 2007 6:41 PM EST

rather than a MPB for tanks why not a Most Powerful Cast Damage for mages?? just a thought

bartjan March 9 2007 6:44 PM EST

Juzza, that's directly dependent on the level to which the DD spell is trained to, besides Decay of course.

Juzza March 9 2007 6:47 PM EST

well still wouldnt it be nice to see what your max damage is at that trained level and watch it increase as u train it higher?

it was just a thought

Last Gasp March 9 2007 7:17 PM EST

Bigger groups of arrows in the store... say 3000 as top limit?

Merging arrows into an already equipped minion would be second wish.

I would NOT wish for a larger allowance... too many people would take too many seekers to hold.

A vacation for Jon would be by third (can ya hear the butt kissing?)

ResistanZ2 [The Knighthood] March 9 2007 7:56 PM EST

Make it changeable in the Settings where people can decide if they want the position of amulets and shields to be inverted. I hate this new way. I liked all my defensive on the left.

Sacredpeanut March 9 2007 8:08 PM EST

An "other" option at the bottom of the weapon X upgrade dropdown menu in the blacksmith that allows the user to input the X value they want to increase their weapon to.

Useful for those that want to increase their weapon by a large amount of X's.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 9 2007 8:23 PM EST

Add an amulet of accuracy...

Unappreciated Misnomer March 9 2007 8:33 PM EST

maybe fix the purchase more ba link when you run out of ba during forging, its broken, its been like 2 years....

ResistanZ2 [The Knighthood] March 9 2007 10:16 PM EST

Change "Magic missile" and "Cone of cold" to "Magic Missile" and "Cone of Cold".

AdminNightStrike March 10 2007 12:13 AM EST

Fix listing:

1. Make familiar stats show in the play by play when you double-tap someone (this fixed yet? I don't use a familiar anymore...)

2. Buying 'x' at the blacksmith seems to reset forge progress on the '+'. That's probably not right.

3. See the wiki wishlist.

4. Ability to save certain chatmails, up to some limit.

5. Make the item wildcard part of the transfer log search function work, and maky it support '$' for only money transfers.

6. (Probably longer than one hour) -- Fix how which minion is wearing an AoF affects what is displayed in the enchantment list in the PBP (the displayed enchantment level is that which is experienced by the last minion in your party).

7. Free retrain for an hour (joke :)

8. Add an RSA SecurID login (far fetched, I know...)

9. Enhance the forum search function to include basics such as post author and date range.

10. Make PL absorb capability be HP / 0.9 instead of HP * 1.1 so that it works properly. (You'd be surprised how many fight outcomes this changes)

11. Include Evasion in the post battle stats next to AC

12. Show stat drain from Ax/Ex in play by play

13. Cure triskadecaphobia....

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] March 10 2007 1:34 AM EST

make AoF work with Junction, don't know if it has been fixed yet

Phrede March 10 2007 2:10 AM EST

MPB reset option from Popsicle would be my choice. People are always changing strats around especially early on and it is one of several guidelines that could be used to see how effective the new strat is (in my case normally totally ineffective :) )

Unappreciated Misnomer March 10 2007 2:44 AM EST

what if there was a mpb for 24hrs, a week and a month and or year?

Vicious Cat March 10 2007 6:04 AM EST

One 'lazy' thing that I've mentioned before - change the 'Add to Favourites' link to 'Remove from Favourites' on the inspect page when someone is in your fightlist

"I have a pretty good list of big features I want to work on"
:-) no fear of stagnation yet then !!

QBOddBird March 10 2007 9:31 AM EST

Wacky time fun for the forgers, too.


PoisoN March 10 2007 10:08 AM EST

Lower the challenge "bonus" penalty, or extend the top10 rule.

Remove the "Heal" link thing.

QBOddBird March 10 2007 10:17 AM EST

Why remove the 'Heal'?

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] March 10 2007 11:28 AM EST

Lower random factor on fight rewards, magic damage?

bartjan March 10 2007 2:54 PM EST

If you also happen to have a One-minute queue, may I suggest making it a little bit easier to detect out-of-order bids (eBay style) on the auction page. Perhaps use winner-font?

TBH never enough gabber March 10 2007 3:19 PM EST

put in a stick figure dancing animation for when you win

Unappreciated Misnomer March 11 2007 10:20 AM EDT

in an hour is it possible to add a feature to cancel an i tem i am renting or return a loaned item before the loan period is finished? the reason i ask this as a forger i get lots of items that i have finished working on and been paid but i have and can make better use of my inventory...all this can be mine is the price is right? or some cb cash sink fee?

QBOddBird March 11 2007 10:22 AM EDT

Yes, I second DPC's suggestion!

AdminShade March 11 2007 12:03 PM EDT

Heh, you can send the item to another of your characters...


no need to have the item returned sooner imho because perhaps you misjudged the item you are forging ;)

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] March 11 2007 1:52 PM EDT

How about Reduced Purchasable BA costs for Forgers... So we can add even more points to items faster.

QBRanger March 11 2007 2:02 PM EDT

Can we fix the problem with archers who do not use a melee weapon firing in melee rounds 1,3,5 instead of 2,4,6?

Relic March 11 2007 3:22 PM EDT

Explosive shots are much too powerful to spawn in the store. I would like to see them be classified as rare ammo and only spawn in auctions.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] March 11 2007 4:50 PM EDT

It was that way before the onset of the Sod, Glory. Then Jon said "Let there be Explosive shot, and lo and behold there was Explosive shot in stores."

Brakke Bres [Ow man] March 11 2007 4:52 PM EDT

Nerf the elb more, a new 1 handed weapon!

TBH never enough gabber March 11 2007 6:40 PM EDT

nerf Sod

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] March 11 2007 7:40 PM EDT

nerf, SoD, thats a new one, i would honestly like to see the AoF be usable in conjunction (with) junction before anything else gets put into play! =P

deifeln March 11 2007 10:06 PM EDT

/me wants pants :o)

QBRanger March 11 2007 10:15 PM EDT

The Grid crunched Chaos's familiar with Boomstick [659796]
The Grid draws strength from his weapon! [131959]
Chaos's familiar's Guardian Angel smote The Grid (39864)
The Grid crushed Chaos's familiar with Boomstick [652904]
The Grid draws strength from his weapon! [86115]
Chaos's familiar's Guardian Angel smote The Grid (23704)
The Grid crushed Chaos's familiar with Boomstick [859347]
The Grid pulverized Chaos's familiar with Boomstick [902897]
The Grid cries "Fear the wrath of the Popsicle!"

I do not know if this bothers other people, but would it be nice to have the VA and GA damage and any PL leech be spaced a bit.
So one can see the hits you do in one line with secondary effects/damage spaced in a bit.

QBsutekh137 March 11 2007 11:20 PM EDT

Maybe italics for stuff pertaining to oneself? Spacing it would make it hard to read in terms of round/character changes, no? I think formatting could be used effectively, and italics aren't used anywhere else in the play-by-play that I know if...

QBOddBird March 11 2007 11:22 PM EDT

I also second Dr. Popsicle's suggestion. That'd be nice.

QBPit Spawn [Abyssal Specters] March 11 2007 11:23 PM EDT

how about an undo button on the changelog? *grins*

Sacredpeanut March 11 2007 11:25 PM EDT

I third PM/Sutekh's suggestion.

I'd have italics for non direct damage related things: Ax/Exbow drain, PL, GA and VA messages.

ScY March 12 2007 12:20 AM EDT

Change the effect level of Giant Strength and Haste to 75-80%

QBRanger March 12 2007 12:27 AM EDT

This may be a bit radical given the mechanics of the game presently but I would like to see a 3rd option when hiring minions.

A no cost, no xp choice at all levels and MPR's.

Especially for those that want a "blocker" minion but do not have the millions of CB2 that one needs at high MPR's.

Slap a ROE on the new minion and in time, it may just even become helpful with casting a spell or 2.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] March 12 2007 6:42 AM EDT

I agree with PM's suggestion of the free minion to hire. It would be nice to have for those of us that don't spend USD.

deifeln March 12 2007 1:13 PM EDT

There would have to be a feature so that one could not hire minions for defense and fire them when fighting.

QBRanger March 12 2007 2:14 PM EDT

Then make them cost a nominal amount, like 50k each.

Tezmac March 12 2007 2:43 PM EDT

How about the yearly free untrain idea I threw out last time?

AdminG Beee March 12 2007 2:48 PM EDT

Well I can't vouch for the travel part, but wifey assures me it won't take more than an hour to re-silicon seal the shower room.

Jon, any chance of you popping over and seeing to it for me please because I really hate the smell of that stuff.

miteke [Superheros] March 12 2007 4:13 PM EDT

Include the amount of Dex/Strength drained on a hit from an AxBow or ExBow.

Last Gasp March 12 2007 4:24 PM EDT

Doubt this is a 1 hour thing... but would love to see a little more "statistics" out of the battle log area.

Average damage given per minion
Average damage taken per minion


would be two that I'd use right away. I'm sure there are a pile of others that would be useful though.

DreadedTiger [4x20] (-x) March 12 2007 5:45 PM EDT

This might take more than an hour, I'm not sure but..

Testing weapons/armor, especially stat draining weapons, is hard without Post-battle stats for both attacker and defender. How about post battle stats for the defender too? We can already see their AC/HP/ST/DX before the battle (on their inspection page), so why not be able to see their stats after the battle as well?

Just a suggestion :)

QBOddBird March 12 2007 9:39 PM EDT

Any way blacksmith x-fers can be separated from the normal x-fer log? One look at mine should explain why.

Mikel [Bring it] March 12 2007 10:11 PM EDT

Fix the Black Smith time to show the actual time he'll spend forging.

[RX3]Cotillion March 13 2007 2:17 AM EDT

How about showing the actual effect of evasion when wearing DB's and having the Evasion Skill?
I don't know if that's been suggested yet. I hope not so I don't get carped...

bartjan March 13 2007 3:28 AM EDT

Allow unretirement of an individual character.

AdminJonathan March 13 2007 1:02 PM EDT

"I suggest making it a little bit easier to detect out-of-order bids (eBay style) on the auction page. Perhaps use winner-font?"

can you elaborate? winning bidder is always at the top. what do you want emphasized?

AdminNightStrike March 13 2007 1:22 PM EDT

14. Punctuate numbers in the play by play (12,345 vice 12345)

AdminNightStrike March 13 2007 1:33 PM EDT

15. Have Archery affect the ToA effectiveness (ie, DX and PTH granted by the ToA should suffer the same penalties in ranged when archery is not at 1.00.. otherwise, archery is not necessary when using a giant ELB and a giant TOA, as proved by JW

Miandrital March 13 2007 1:35 PM EDT

Adding named items links to the 'Stats' -> 'Items' javascript menu would be nice :)

bartjan March 13 2007 2:09 PM EDT

Jonathan, some people are confused by the new eBay style auction listing. They expect them to be in chronological order somehow.
I don't think the order should be changed, as the current ordering makes more sense. What I suggested was to somehow highlight those bids that are auto-bids (and because of that, out of chronological order). For example:

105k bartjan 4am
100k Jonathan 2am
99k bartjan 3am
50k bartjan 1am

In this example, you put an auto-bid for 100k. It did start as a 52.5k bid when it was made, but was increased by the system when needed. What I'm asking is to highlight that bid (after it was increased for you by the system). This way it's easier to understand how auto-bidding works (I hope...).

Zgabu March 13 2007 2:52 PM EDT

Make an item in auction be available to be watched on your char page.

QBOddBird March 13 2007 2:55 PM EDT

I agree with NightStrike's #15, whether that's a 1 hour fix or not.

Zgabu March 14 2007 2:11 PM EDT

Not listing retired characters win streak.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] March 14 2007 3:41 PM EDT

The current win streaks for retired chars are not seen when you hover over the Current Winning Streaks link, Hence the (Current) part of it. The only time you see the entire winning streaks of both retired and non-retired is if you follow that link.

Flamey March 14 2007 3:57 PM EDT

fix up the Spellcheck with CB terms, there was a thread about it, but I can't find it. NS started it.

a few were, HoE, SF, NUB.

Relic March 14 2007 5:08 PM EDT

Make it so mage teams can have an item PR allowance equal to the WA of tanks.

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] March 14 2007 5:24 PM EDT

Glory, Tanks still have to wear armor, so its not like its helping tanks to have a WA...

Shelingar March 15 2007 10:16 AM EDT

Something I'd like to see. Currently when you win an auction you get a system message like this:

Your bid won the auction for 773 Seeker Arrows [11x1] (+0).

I'd like to see the message include either
(a) a link to the auction results like when you get outbid
(b) for the message to show the final auction price
(c) both (a) and (b) :)

AdminNightStrike March 15 2007 11:18 AM EDT

Good idea, Shel

Stephen March 16 2007 5:13 AM EDT

[Add to fightlist] or [Remove from fightlist] buttons alongside opponents in the 24 hour battle summary.

Zgabu March 16 2007 9:50 AM EDT

Dra0c: They actually don;t weed out all, see Bored Now, X11 Order for a couple examples.

QBPit Spawn [Abyssal Specters] March 16 2007 9:57 AM EDT

as i said in the other thread, which was perhaps the wrong place to post it, i think a link to apply for a clan from the clan's clan page would be nice. It would make it much easier than hunting through the huge list every time

QBOddBird March 16 2007 10:21 AM EDT

I was just reminded of this because it happened in Chat: get that odd Chat bug fixed that allows people to continue talking after they've been /kick'd.

AdminNightStrike March 16 2007 1:32 PM EDT

Everytime I get an auction alert, the expiration date and time are the same:

expires 2007-09-10 18:20:06.863917-04

that's probably not right.

AdminNightStrike March 16 2007 1:33 PM EDT

Also, is there any way to change the domain in the links on emails received, either from post notifications or auction alerts? I never use the cb2 domain, but the links all come with that attached. The easiest would be, of course, to make logging in to one log in to all of them. However, I'd settle for having the email send out the domain version of the last domain you logged in to (or perhaps allow it to be set from the Settings page)

AdminJonathan March 16 2007 4:09 PM EDT

Nightstrike: that is when your alert expires, not the auction

AdminNightStrike March 16 2007 4:41 PM EDT

Oh... oops... well in that case, can the email include the auction expiration?

Lochnivar March 16 2007 4:45 PM EDT

On the not essential but occasionally useful front:

Could the drop down list for item assignment be made the same for equipped items as unequipped items?
ie, being able to assign equipped items to another character

th00p March 16 2007 4:55 PM EDT

Oh c'mon - can the extra 2 clicks really be that painful?

Lochnivar March 16 2007 5:23 PM EDT

yes...

I have a bone defect in my wrist and hyper-sensitivity in my fingertips, not to mention the fact that each screen refresh possess a risk of seizures.

[T]Vestax March 22 2007 11:51 AM EDT

The ability to delete messages that have been sent but not received please.

Vaynard [Fees Dirt Cheap] March 29 2007 4:34 AM EDT

On the Auction pages, could we also get it to show how much the bid increment is? This way players might be able to know what to put their max bid at to place one more bid if Central bank decides to make a bid last second?

bartjan March 29 2007 4:55 AM EDT

Bid increment is either what the seller has entered, or 5% of the current bid, whichever is larger.

QBRanger March 29 2007 6:59 AM EDT

I do not know if others would like this but:

What about in the weapons store, there is a toggle to only show arrow or only bolts or only shots (including exshots).

Yes, I realize I am lazy, but I have from time to time bought the wrong ammo for my character.

lostling March 29 2007 10:47 AM EDT

i really would like to see the turns per hour beside the number of turns :)

QBRanger March 29 2007 1:02 PM EDT

Another change.

In the blackmarket auctions, can we see the people who voted on that item on the auction page?

So we know who were up against.

AdminNightStrike March 29 2007 3:20 PM EDT

You can see that up until the auction spawns. I kinda like it like that. Once the auction spawns, the veil is closed.

TBH never enough gabber March 29 2007 4:34 PM EDT

can we have a veto if we want in the black market auctions instead of a vote if we want

"no you may want it but your not getting that lesser RoBF"

Talion March 30 2007 1:32 PM EDT

Could links to Opponent View and User Home be added at the bottom to the corresponding character's Home page next the the other links?

Right now, the most direct way I know of accessing those pages is by clicking the "Manage Characters" link and then clicking on the specific character.


Talion March 30 2007 4:22 PM EDT

Another thing that would be fun: Allow the user to set a Preference (or Supporter Preference) that indicates what the "Play-by-play" is set to by default after the user logs on(Off, On, or On Non-Win).

I always grumble to no one in particular when my first fight's results do not get displayed because the default value is "Off".

lostling March 31 2007 1:46 AM EDT

could you add an option to deupgrade an item? maybe return a % of the cost to upgrade? ... just a thought ^^

Brakke Bres [Ow man] April 2 2007 6:40 AM EDT

Can we please please please get under DI the amount done by AMF damage?
I know that AMF isn't really damage done by my own team, but it would be useful against those nasty mage teams.
Thanks!

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] April 2 2007 6:42 AM EDT

Henk, what do you think the number after the / is?
Ok, if you're using both GA and AMF then it doesn't distinguish between the two but if you only use one or the other then that second figure is the total amount returned by AMF.

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] April 2 2007 6:43 AM EDT

*if you only use one or the other then that number is the total returned by the spell you are using.

lostling April 2 2007 8:10 AM EDT

i hope jon will fix HF soon :) im looking forward to x3 shots :)

Brakke Bres [Ow man] April 2 2007 8:48 AM EDT

im using AMF/GA but i didn't know both those damage were under the DI, anyway could be get a separate number for each?

Daz April 2 2007 9:55 PM EDT

Is this still open?

I would like to see a search option for auction - "Hide Auctions I cannot bid on" (Black market when I didn't vote)

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] April 2 2007 9:59 PM EDT

oops, posted it in the wrong thread before, =/

PLEASE make AoF compatible with Junction!

AdminG Beee May 9 2007 3:08 AM EDT

I'd like to have a toggle button on the stats page that hides retired characters.
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