Timestamp gone from CM box? (in General)
April 24 2007 12:14 AM EDT
Just noticed, it used to tell the time and date. this may cause some issues with those running contests for first CM or getting 2 BIN offers for a sale. and i like knowing the time period sent. Was this removed on purpose, or is it just a glitch?
April 24 2007 12:15 AM EDT
It appears to be gone also from other things.
Such as in my recent battles, any battles fought yesterday do not have the time on them just the date.
In Active Threads, any posts yesterday do not have the time on them, just the date.
April 24 2007 12:19 AM EDT
they are still sorted in the same order they always were
April 24 2007 12:20 AM EDT
odd that this is also the only thread with a timestamp when last i checked (right before posting this :P) possibly something with the NP forum?
April 24 2007 12:21 AM EDT
no, everything from the same day gets the time...
i predict bartjan won't like this :)
April 24 2007 12:22 AM EDT
I see all the thread and all my battles on this day with the time stamp, yesterdays however, I do not see such a stamp.
But, even though the battles are in order, the time stamp does help. IE, I had someone attack me 4 times in a row. It would be nice to see if they were all in under a min or spread over a few minutes. To know if s/he is able to double/triple/quad tap me.
April 24 2007 12:28 AM EDT
I predict there are many who won't like it. Change is change, and accept it we must, but it can't hurt to say: "any chance we can get that back?"
April 24 2007 12:30 AM EDT
I for one liked the old way. No time on CM's is very bad. Knowing when your chat partner got a message is a very important thing with CM's.
April 24 2007 12:30 AM EDT
for CMs? I like it better this way, definitely.
No timestamps? /cry? QQ ? If they must go then they must go. They will forever be branded on my heart. Okay, I can't take it. Can we have them back? Not even if I say please?
Why does this feel like an inadvertent change Jon doesn't want to expend the energy to figure out and fix?
Please, give us timestamps, Jon!
it was quite advertent :P
/me protests non-violently:
What do we want?
When do we want them?
Some time soon would be nice, and if you could possibly mark a permanent record of when, by some means of publicly recording the time, that would be great. :)
Thought of it, had a chuckle, decided to share.
April 24 2007 1:37 AM EDT
Timestamps are a must to see when CM's are delivered, I don't know WHY you got rid of them (if you had some ungodly reason let us know) but it makes no sense to me or any other member of the CB community apparently.
"they are still sorted in the same order they always were "
They were always sorted in the wrong order... When you received multiple CMs at once after logging in, they would get posted in reverse order.
...And it would seem that they are still being sorted incorrectly, only now it is not possible to determine the correct order.
Yeah, I'm going to have to say that not having time stamps everywhere is going to make things needlessly unpleasant.
April 24 2007 3:22 AM EDT
"i predict bartjan won't like this :)"
I'm fine with this change, except that I think the change from timestamp to date should happen at '24h ago' and not at midnight (which is an arbitrary moment, if you're at the other side of the world).
I usually use the forum's timestamp to see which forum posts were made since I went afk for the night. Because that almost always is "yesterday" (midnight server time is 6am for me), the forum's new timestamp is useless for this now.
April 24 2007 4:21 AM EDT
I suppose we could rely on an honesty system where you type the time you send the message?? eg. 04:21 AM EDT. this post!
I just installed a sundial on my CM inbox.. seems to work fine for me. At night I have a bucket of water with a hole in the bottom.
So we should just slap the time on our CMs? "I sent this 4 hours before the last time you logged out, eventhough that isn't possible."
April 24 2007 4:20 PM EDT
Yeah, I can see myself adding a time stamp to my CMs for important things now... I guess if Jonathan wants to trade a little disk space for...well, for whatever he seems to think this makes "better", then more power to him.
Verifex, can your Grease Monkey script automatically insert time stamp into all CMs being sent?
Even that won't address time stamps everywhere else on the forum... post times, battle times, auction times, etc.
This change really needs to be reverted.
April 24 2007 4:34 PM EDT
Maybe I'm missing something but I still see a time stamp with my CM's.
April 24 2007 4:38 PM EDT
Rome, view all, and watch how the time, HH:MM turns into date, <month>, <day>.
What we would like to see back is the full date/time stamp. It appears obvious that the data items in questions are being stored with actual date/time stamp data types, so it has actually taken work to divide the stamps into some with just times and some with just dates.
This thread appears to be devoted to many people wondering why that part of the work was done. *smile*
April 24 2007 4:39 PM EDT
only the current day's timestamp is shown ('day' being based on server time). Otherwise, just dates shown...
Okay, the timestamp change is really vexing. Can we get at least a full, rolling 24 hrs., instead of "changes at midnight server time"?
April 26 2007 1:56 AM EDT
Earlier I said I didn't mind this change, now I do hate it. Why? Because I now start to realize how much forensic information is lost because of this change. It's now impossible to tell how related 2 users' login times (and other actions, such as transfers) are.
April 26 2007 7:35 AM EDT
I dunno if anyone else has mentioned this but it no longer tells you the year of which a person had joined a clan.
April 26 2007 7:40 AM EDT
Definately need time stamps for chatmails. I liked the timestamps for the forums as well. They look naked now : /
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