T7: No tank you. Updated rule! (in Contests)

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 3 2007 11:43 PM EDT

A user submitted tourney for T7, much thanks goes to dj1914 for taking the time to submit a tournament :)

The contest will begin August 6th at 12PM, and end August 13th at 12PM


Starting on Thursday, you may only fight other Tournament characters.

At the end of the tourney, you must have a minimum of 500k NW.

No tattoos will be allowed.

You may train a maximum of one evasion on your team.

As always, all rules in this thread apply.

Tanks are now ALLOWED.

Win Condition:
Highest MPR
Battles as Challenger
Most Powerful Single minion

You can only win one prize, should you come in first for two, you can choose which you want, and the other will go to second place in that category.

Highest MPR: A Trollskin Armor [22](+20)
Battles Challenged: A Pair of Tulkas' Gauntlets [6](+11)
Most Powerful Single Minion: A Set of Chain Mail Leggings [18](+28)

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 3 2007 11:51 PM EDT

Oh yeah: one more thing - if anyone has any requests for T8, or any future tourney, such as a team based, or special win condition, feel free to chatmail me and I'll take that into consideration.

Fanta [Fanta's Forge] August 4 2007 12:55 AM EDT

Nice pun there :)

bartjan August 4 2007 3:36 AM EDT

As far as I know a weapon is essential for earning that first few XP before you can train a Direct Damage spell. Can't you put a (ridiculously low) limit on the MPB each tournament entry is allowed to have? That's very easy to check, but still allows everyone to bootstrap their mages.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 4 2007 7:52 AM EDT

hum - good point bart, I'll trust that everyone will get rid of the weapon as soon as possible to train a DD spell.

lostling August 4 2007 8:25 AM EDT

below 100 should about cover it :)

dj1914 August 4 2007 9:05 AM EDT

Unlimited BA correct?

48Zach August 4 2007 12:15 PM EDT

4000 BA Cap is good..

No one could even reach the 5k Cap, so unlitmited is just silly.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 4 2007 12:17 PM EDT

no cap, since Battles as Challenger is a win condition (don't want to have a tie)

Mythology August 4 2007 2:46 PM EDT

surely people should be rewarded for having lower battles as challenger not higher? as in just being online the most isnt really a tournament...

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 4 2007 2:53 PM EDT

rewarding someone for not being online isn't much better :)

Mian asked a good question earlier - if someone should win more than one condition, they can choose which prize they want, and the other will go to second place in its ranking (2nd highest MPR, for example)

QBRanger August 4 2007 2:56 PM EDT

But, with the "missing BA" some people are getting esp on T characters, total battles challenged may be whoever gets luckier with losing less BA.

Mythology August 4 2007 3:18 PM EDT

yeah but highest MPR takes skill, battles as challenger doesnt take any skill

im not saying lowest battles as challenger is good, but its better than most, its like the blue ribbon on sports day for just being there

Flamey August 4 2007 8:58 PM EDT

Blue ribbon is first over here. :o

Thraklight Resonance August 4 2007 11:03 PM EDT

Battles as Challenger is also problematic in that you could, under certain circumstances, have two players, five players, or ten players tie for first in that category. There are at least nine or ten CB1 players who wouldn't miss a tourney ba challenge under the current CB2 ba refresh rate.

Zaekyr August 5 2007 4:33 AM EDT

how about ? when does it officially start?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 5 2007 10:54 AM EDT

August 6th, 12 PM

cookie dough August 6 2007 2:00 PM EDT

is there a reason that we have to finish a tourny with at least 500k NW?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 6 2007 2:36 PM EDT

No UC allowed, will update post later on

Nerevas August 7 2007 11:58 AM EDT

Is there a reason I was disqualified?

Nerevas August 7 2007 12:03 PM EDT

Looks like its becaused I trained decay.. wish I could have got a warning. I had just trained it, didn't even fight anyone with it.

Nerevas August 7 2007 12:05 PM EDT

Btw can you please post allowed/disallowed for decay from now on. As its been allowed on and off I forgot about it.

48DangerZone August 7 2007 12:26 PM EDT

Don't forget, It says, No Decay unless otherwise stated. Which it wasn't.

But I'm sure it wouldn't hurt Slayer from posting it now on.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] August 7 2007 3:49 PM EDT

i agree on the decay and rules in general. make a text file and copy and paste them into each tourney thread please. it is a bit awkward having two places to check rules on each tourney.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 8 2007 11:58 AM EDT

new rule has been updated :)

TheHatchetman August 8 2007 12:02 PM EDT

/me expected something like this :)

48Zach August 8 2007 12:17 PM EDT

Time to sell my compound bow!

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] August 8 2007 12:25 PM EDT

Tell me something slayer... do you think its fair that DJ changes the rules only to toss a bunch of compound bows into auctions at the same time?

dj1914 August 8 2007 12:29 PM EDT

I can take them out if it bothers you that much. I sell compounds each and every week.

dj1914 August 8 2007 12:31 PM EDT

All compounds taken out.

QBRanger August 8 2007 12:49 PM EDT

Q: Why did the rule change to allow tanks?

It seemed this was a nice type of tourney.

48Zach August 8 2007 1:12 PM EDT

Yeah, this rule change totally defeated the purpose of this tourney

Lord Bob August 8 2007 3:54 PM EDT

Weak. Totally lame.

dj1914 August 8 2007 4:22 PM EDT

I guess there will be plenty of people lined up with T8 submissions

{CB1}stingiestbard [why] August 8 2007 4:39 PM EDT

I, for one,cannot wait to see other players submissions. I wonder if any will have the fortitude to bear the scrutiny of the greater cb populace.

Zaekyr August 8 2007 6:35 PM EDT

I kinda thought you'd do this too and yes it does suck. I don't think I'll be participating in any more tournies simply because I expected to play with interesting limitations.I kinda feel like I've been wasting my time already due to the leaders (usually the first to sign up) get attacked hundreds of times more than others. Also the fact that some people have the time to spend to pick their targets throughout their BA run. All that makes it too difficult to be competetive.

QBOddBird August 8 2007 6:41 PM EDT

I thought you wouldn't be participating in any more because 'too many retards ruining it for the rest of us' ?

Now it is because some people can pick their targets (GASP, they're smart about their fighting???) and you don't like the limitations?

I hope you change your mind - but if your decision to stop fighting in tournaments means you will stop whinging in the forums about your inability to compete because "I'm too smawt and they'z too dumbs and they attackses the leaders and peoplez keeps pickin' they'ses targets and why not better limitses" - then blah, glad you're done. >_

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Mikel August 8 2007 10:46 PM EDT

why did you change a rule half way thru the contest? many people had not planned on a tank, and now it's an option?

QBBarzooMonkey August 8 2007 10:50 PM EDT

Isn't one of the best things about CB the constant change and need to adapt to those changes? Why is this an issue?

Mikel August 8 2007 10:55 PM EDT

Barzoo, don't try to put a spin on this with "change it good", when the rules are announced about a tourney, it should be locked down once it starts. He could've run the same tourney next week and this time added tanks.

QBBarzooMonkey August 8 2007 10:58 PM EDT

That is the most lame response I've ever seen. These complaints are ridiculous. Count me out if we've got to continuously deal with crybabies for every single tournament.

Mikel August 8 2007 11:08 PM EDT

So now you wish to insult people that had trained up AMF and been buying gear to beat mages not mages/tanks?

QBBarzooMonkey August 8 2007 11:10 PM EDT

If I'm insulting myself, yes, because that's exactly what I was doing until I saw the rule change. Why is this an issue?

Mikel August 8 2007 11:14 PM EDT

Apparently I did not see the *rule change to be announced on Wednesday" part of the tourney.
I retired so have fun.

Mikel August 8 2007 11:19 PM EDT

forgot to mention that I apologize for the misplaced uproar that I caused.

horseguy001 August 8 2007 11:41 PM EDT

Man, I thought the rule change would be something along the lines of Tattoos are now allowed, not tanks.

Haha, glad I have AMF as 60% of my exp :P Oh well, theres always next tourney.

Miandrital August 8 2007 11:44 PM EDT

Me too I thought it would be tattoos allowed so I bought a tattoo. Oh well, this just makes things more interesting since it is tourney character only starting in 17 minutes :D

QBOddBird August 8 2007 11:44 PM EDT

Why's everyone so down in the dumps? You still keep 98% of your EXP when you untrain a stat...and if *everyone* got hit by this change, and *everyone* is untraining their AMF, then it is an equal drop across the board, so nobody is being penalized as hard as they think.

Crizazazinesss, maaaaaan.

Lord Bob August 9 2007 1:07 AM EDT

"Isn't one of the best things about CB the constant change and need to adapt to those changes?"

Best? Definitely no.

48DangerZone August 9 2007 11:33 AM EDT

I don't think this is that fair. The rule about attacking Tourney guys only. It honestly takes me a good 2 mins to attack 10 people. Because I am not a Supporter. So I have to do it manually. And it's a pain. Because Everytime I have a high about of BA. It just keeps coming back every 20 minutes. Taking it longer and longer for me. I have spent about 30 BA in 20 minutes. Because everyone is always comatosed. I noticed that 18 of the 21 top players in T7 are supporters. Giving them a huge advantage. Because they can have favorite.

So, I just giving my opinion about that rule.

Kong Ming August 9 2007 11:42 AM EDT

Dangerzone, I guess the only way is to click on the stats link > tournament scores> choose the tourney characters one at a time to fight. Unless you get supportership...

48DangerZone August 9 2007 11:43 AM EDT

That's what I am currently doing. And it takes too long.. It's just not fair. But I will have to get used to it.. Another 3 days left..

Kong Ming August 9 2007 11:53 AM EDT

Well, supportership does not cost much. Just offer cb2 cash and get someone to buy it for you.

48DangerZone August 9 2007 12:07 PM EDT

I know. It's just..I find it stupid that you have to pair to get even with other players in this tournament.

48DangerZone August 9 2007 12:08 PM EDT

And considering I only have 660k... I can't nearly afford it. So it stinks for me. :(

bartjan August 9 2007 12:20 PM EDT

Dangerzone: in Firefox, open each opponent in a separate tab. Then click on each tab 'fight'. Then reload each tab. To cycle through tabs, CTRL+Page down (or up) helps.

So, you'll end up hitting CTRL+Down, CTRL+R over and over, until you get a botcheck.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 9 2007 4:28 PM EDT

[T7]Doongaliath owned by Doonga disqualified for fighting non tourney characters.
[T7]Squirrel owned by Ekeke disqualified for fighting non tourney characters.
7th Frost owned by Hearts disqualified for fighting non tourney characters.
DangerZone (T7) owned by DangerZone disqualified for fighting non tourney characters.
My Bad owned by Thanatos disqualified for fighting non tourney characters.
[T7]The White Wizard owned by Lord Tyranus disqualified for fighting non tourney characters.
Sassafrass owned by Moosh LooLoo disqualified for fighting non tourney characters.
Tigah Tourney 7 owned by Miandrital disqualified for fighting non tourney characters.
Disco inferno owned by Lochinvar disqualified for fighting non tourney characters.
[T7]Hatchetman owned by [TH]Wraith disqualified for fighting non tourney characters.
[T-7]Ice Lich Bob owned by Lord Bob disqualified for fighting non tourney characters.

Miandrital August 9 2007 5:23 PM EDT

Ah man, that kinda takes the fun out of it now...

Not to mention I just lost 20k on DQ'd characters :P

BMWheatley August 9 2007 5:31 PM EDT

This is gonna take forever, now there is only 1 person on my fightlist! >.<

Everyone else gives me terrible Challenge Bonuses.

Miandrital August 9 2007 5:38 PM EDT

Beemer, welcome to my world.

Lord Bob August 9 2007 8:35 PM EDT

"This is gonna take forever, now there is only 1 person on my fightlist! >.<

Everyone else gives me terrible Challenge Bonuses."

Yeah, I've already pretty much abandoned this tourney because of that.

lostling August 9 2007 9:32 PM EDT

maybe in future tournys with rule changes CM s should be sent to all participants? not everyone checks forums every min of the day

Flamey August 10 2007 2:24 AM EDT

"Starting on Thursday, you may only fight other Tournament characters."

lostling, that was there from the start, that was their fault.

48DangerZone August 10 2007 11:24 AM EDT

Flamey, He's talking about the TANK change..

TheHatchetman August 10 2007 12:24 PM EDT

changing to tank had nothing to do with the matter...

48DangerZone August 10 2007 12:51 PM EDT

.. Lostlings said we should get CMed when changes occur.. Then Flamey said something about Tournament attacking only..

dj1914 August 10 2007 12:54 PM EDT

The rules stated that a rule would change on Wed. Why not just check back on Wed.?

48DangerZone August 10 2007 1:02 PM EDT

I looked where it stated a rule will change on Wed, and couldn't find anything.

But Lostlings just said.. Not everyone checks the forums everyday. So we should get CMed about rules changing. It was just his suggestion.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 10 2007 1:06 PM EDT

Before Wednesday the post stated a rule would change on Wednesday, when the time came I edited the post with the new rule in the place of that (in bold, no less) and edited the post title to include "Updated rule!", also in bold.

48DangerZone August 10 2007 2:24 PM EDT

Oh.. I was just confused Sorry. I knew the rule would change.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 13 2007 12:05 PM EDT

The winners:

Highest MPR: 23
Battles Challenged: Stingiestbard
Most Powerful Single Minion: Horseguy

sending out prizes in a moment :)

horseguy001 August 13 2007 12:30 PM EDT

great tourney guys, I decided to fire all my minions when you added more and dominated me at the top :D

was alot of fun at the end, lots of strat changes going on
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