Random BA?? (in General)

48Zach November 4 2007 10:03 PM EST

A lot of people in chat seem to be getting extra BA just randomly, some more than anothers. I personally didn't recieve any that I'm aware of.. but, bug?

{cb2}Goth November 4 2007 10:09 PM EST

yea i got like 53 BA it was so random i enjoyed it :) but still i think it might have been a roll back from time change

48Zach November 4 2007 10:10 PM EST

I gain BA and lose XP

48xVanished48 November 4 2007 10:11 PM EST

131 free BA so far. ;)

48Zach November 4 2007 10:11 PM EST

People are saying cash and XP saved, so.

{cb2}Goth November 4 2007 10:17 PM EST

ehh this is wierd just got another 53 BA getting annoying actually to be honest

48Zach November 4 2007 10:20 PM EST

I keep going upto 53 BA aswell... please fix this! It's happening ever 10 minutes.

48xVanished48 November 4 2007 10:22 PM EST

Got another 51 BA. I cant keep attacking.. XD

{cb2}Goth November 4 2007 10:24 PM EST

omg!!! this is soooo weird it happens every 10 min please fix this admin just imagine if ranger was on :O that would be ungodly lol

48xVanished48 November 4 2007 10:25 PM EST

It does happen every 10 minutes. I wasnt 100% sure. Good its not just me.

This is awesome!! :)

Daz November 4 2007 10:31 PM EST

I noticed I was getting random amount of BA, but not the amounts that you're all getting!

Daz November 4 2007 10:31 PM EST

I just gained -3 on that 10 minute mark :(

48Zach November 4 2007 10:32 PM EST

This NEEDS to be fixed.. I cant spend BA because the server says I am fighting multiple times, giving mee the 10 minute suspensions, and all the rollbacks every 10 minutes cause me to lose XP and Cash.. CMON

48xVanished48 November 4 2007 10:32 PM EST

I hope I don't get in trouble for posting to much. I am noticing I am getting more and more BA each time.

37, 44, 51, 54, 55. :)

Hyrule Castle November 4 2007 10:33 PM EST

this was happening earlier this morning, what i believe it to be, is the amount it resets you to (for me 63) is what it resets to every 10 mins... whatever exp you do not train, (or what you had when you had the 63) is lost, money seems to stay (if you hit train or home)

i think this is a bug, and you all should just let it be..

48Zach November 4 2007 10:47 PM EST

Moved to on the 5 minutes instead of the 0's...

Synge [Memento Mori] November 4 2007 10:59 PM EST

This happens while forging, also: BA and progress reset back to original values every few minutes.

QBOddBird November 4 2007 11:08 PM EST

Interesting. I'm not using mine, just watching it go up and down. 77, 73, 74, etc...

QBOddBird November 4 2007 11:08 PM EST

(note: the above post was within a period of 8 minutes.)

Yukk November 4 2007 11:09 PM EST

I just noticed this. I wasn't sure. I had just started fighting and then I noticed I had 156 BA, I thought I'd already done 10-15 fights then I was down to 20 and it suddenly went up again. Now I'm sure.

Goodfish November 4 2007 11:16 PM EST

It'll get rolled back, no point in spending BA. Waste of your time, and it just causes confusion.

QBOddBird November 4 2007 11:17 PM EST

No longer random, it's picked up a steady rhythm! 74, 75, 76, 77, 78 now...

{cb2}Goth November 4 2007 11:23 PM EST

finally no more BA for me!!! hopefully

Mem November 4 2007 11:41 PM EST

I reported this problem earlier today here, but it seems like nothing has been done-- just before I made this post I went from 74 to 75 BA. It's not like free BA is a bad thing, but I just want the game to work correctly! You know, like it used to...

{cb2}Goth November 4 2007 11:41 PM EST

or not.. forget it im going to bed

Iluvatar[NK] November 4 2007 11:45 PM EST

It reminds me of 2001 CB when we had unlimited BA..

48xVanished48 November 5 2007 12:05 AM EST

All fixed, Nothing to worry about here. :)

Thanks Jonathan.

Hyrule Castle November 5 2007 12:13 AM EST

oh no it didn't...

Lumpy Koala November 5 2007 12:32 AM EST

It's not fixed yet ? Coz I don't seem to experience anything of this sort... at all

48xVanished48 November 5 2007 12:37 AM EST

It is fixed. I don't know what HC was talking about. :S

48xVanished48 November 5 2007 11:14 AM EST

Guess whats back. :)

QBsutekh137 November 5 2007 11:29 AM EST

My BA just went from 0 to 94.

Can we at least get some confirmation that this is a server hiccup or something? I never know when my BA is going to top out if we have random resets up to 94 BA...

48Zach November 5 2007 11:34 AM EST

I am currently at school, so I have to leave.. Hopefully this will be fixed before i get home in a few hours.

Lord Bob November 5 2007 12:20 PM EST

I just fought over 50 battles in the last hour, logged off for a bit to complete some work, then logged back in. My BA was replenished to 160. There is still a glitch.

Marlfox [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 5 2007 12:26 PM EST

I never got free BA....

Why do I always miss out on stuff like this?!?
Hope this gets fixed soon.

*moving along happily*

QBsutekh137 November 5 2007 12:37 PM EST

I just got another 94 back. I have used them and trained and written my mages HP and total $$$.

If this is just making money and experience (provided one trains), then we really need this fixed. I am imagining a NUB getting a few days worth of extra bonus from this if they are logged in.

What is going on?

horseguy001 November 5 2007 12:38 PM EST

I have no idea what anyone is talking about...I have yet to get any free BA =(

QBOddBird November 5 2007 12:53 PM EST

I was just noticing that I was making no progress on my BA again this morning.

As a side note, it looks like (for me) it is just making mini-rollbacks, since I don't train EXP...I definitely lost some that I had fought up. But oh well, more battles to fight. *shrugs* I'd like to see this fixed soon, though.

QBsutekh137 November 5 2007 12:56 PM EST

And again. Current BA 121, even though just minutes ago it was zero.

My cash and HP are as if things WEREN'T rolled back. I feel like I am cheating now by keeping the BA number down and keeping trained up!

Can someone make sure Jonathan knows about this? This is very serious!

horseguy001 November 5 2007 1:01 PM EST

I just logged in with 160 now, crazy

drudge November 5 2007 1:41 PM EST

i logged off with 0 and i just logged on with 9. i missed the bug!

QBOddBird November 5 2007 1:43 PM EST

Darn. If there's a rollback on this, it's gonna really suck for me. That'll be all the work I've done ALL MONTH rolled back. =\

QBsutekh137 November 5 2007 1:52 PM EST

The past hour or so has been normal accrual.

But just look at my 24-hour numbers...pretty high compared to a lot of other near-24-hour players, and I still have 150/216 of my daily BA to purchase...

horseguy001 November 5 2007 2:05 PM EST

I certainly hope there isn't a rollback...I have been growing like mad my first month.

Iluvatar[NK] November 5 2007 2:28 PM EST

A rollback would create more issues than it would solve, I think.

Some people gained a couple k extra pr//some money that they shouldn't have,

but reverting it would harm more people by taking away legit rewards.

and also new members that created accounts during the bug - what would happen to them?

QBsutekh137 November 5 2007 2:45 PM EST

Yeah, I am more than fine with Jonathan finding my average rewards and then reducing my cash by 200-300 BA, and taking experience from my highest stat.

A full rollback would definitely be more troublesome...

I just wanted to make sure it had stopped, and it appears to have done (for now). I know there were at least three instances of this, Sunday morning, Sunday evening, and then this Monday morning.

horseguy001 November 5 2007 2:47 PM EST

It must be related to Daylight Savings Time.

In the meantime I am recording how much free BA I have gotten, so if a correction comes it doesn't cost an arm and a leg in mpr =)

QBsutekh137 November 5 2007 2:52 PM EST

I spoke to soon. Just came back on and had 154 BA. :\

Please, anyone who reads this report if you have any weirdness in BA accrual!

Good call on the time change, horseguy. I would bet you are right, or at least close.

Last Gasp November 5 2007 3:01 PM EST

Another side effect of all this is that the refresh rate after battles seemed to have shortened dramatically during the BA refresh issues. I'm using Fex's script which automatically picks my next available opponent that has the highest Score... I was getting far more battles vs my top 6 opponents than I normally would get.

Anybody else notice that??

Yukk November 5 2007 3:10 PM EST

That's because everyone is on burning BA non-stop. I didn't get any glitches this morning, but when I was burning before going to bed I noticed I was getting lots of extra fights, then my BA hiccuped, I posted and went to bed, but I still burned 160 BA in about 3 minutes.

IndependenZ November 5 2007 3:24 PM EST

It appears that everybody is getting different amounts of BA, totally at random. So how is Jon supposed to see who spent 'normal' BA or random BA? I have bought and used all of my BA since 03:50 this morning, but there are players who have bought some, fought some, but not all. Maybe some random BA as well.

After this has been fixed, a rollback might be necessary. Or not, as most people don't mind extra money, XP and NUB/NCB time.

Oh and about Daylight Saving Time, clan bonuses started 2 hours early today too. Maybe it's related?

QBsutekh137 November 5 2007 3:29 PM EST

I would have no problem with Jon rolling back to before the DST change, if that is what has caused this. He has done multi-day rollbacks before, but it always has some issues with it when it comes to supporter item buys, new charatcers, transfers, auctions, etc, etc... What a mess!

48xVanished48 November 5 2007 3:30 PM EST

Most people haven't gotten a huge amount of extra EXP and Money. I am a NUB been getting free BA for hours. I have not increased that much. I don't know how this Rollback thing will work. But it seems like it will wreck the people who have not received free BA. But in the end. Its Jon's decision. :)

IndependenZ November 5 2007 3:42 PM EST

I know about the former rollbacks, heh, but they all happened after some major CB malfunctioning, big enough to stop CB from being able to go on like normal. Like the big melee damage, the negative millions of experience and so on.

This time, CB is doing perfectly fine. We're only fighting a bit more. I don't see the need to do a rollback, although, like xVanished said, it's up to Jon.

Lord Bob November 5 2007 4:03 PM EST

"After this has been fixed, a rollback might be necessary."

I expected that a rollback was inevitable, but I hope I'm wrong and he lets it slide.

AdminJonathan November 5 2007 4:11 PM EST

Added time zone to BA table and restarted server. I hope that's the problem, because this code hasn't changed since tournaments were added and has been working pretty well to date. :)

Lord Bob November 5 2007 4:26 PM EST

I haven't gotten (or lost) any extra BA since I posted this morning. I'm thinking it's fixed.

BootyGod November 5 2007 4:30 PM EST


Lord Bob November 5 2007 4:31 PM EST

Ehh... I spoke too soon. It seems I just got seven extra BA.

48xVanished48 November 5 2007 4:32 PM EST

The bug has definitely there around 11pm and 2 pm today. Seems good since then.

Chocolate Thunder November 5 2007 4:32 PM EST

Pretty sure that was a mini rollback (20 minutes or so).

Lord Bob November 5 2007 4:34 PM EST

"Pretty sure that was a mini rollback (20 minutes or so)."

It probably was.

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] November 5 2007 4:37 PM EST

I feel so left out. Where's my extra BA?

Wasp [C and S Forgery Lmtd.] November 5 2007 4:40 PM EST

I just burnt 20... and ran out, now I'm burning another 20... about 5 minutes later? Maybe I've gone insane :S

Chocolate Thunder November 5 2007 4:43 PM EST

wasp, i'm pretty sure you lost the XP and cash from the first 20 BA, or at least that's what has been happening to me for the past half hour or so.

AdminJonathan November 5 2007 5:52 PM EST

Something either yesterday or the day before made the web server very very unstable. It segfaulted 36 times yesterday and 18 today so far, which is what is causing the mini-rollbacks.

Until I figure out what the problem is, I have changed it to save your progress every 10 battles. ("Normal" is every 75.)

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] November 5 2007 5:54 PM EST

bummer! :(

QBsutekh137 November 5 2007 8:21 PM EST

Thanks, Jonathan...times like these I realize how much you do "behind the scenes"... Mucho appreciado...

48xVanished48 November 5 2007 10:18 PM EST

Every time I think the bug is fixed. It seems to come right back and give me free BA. 60 in about the last 20 minutes. I'm thinking this bug could be serious. :S

AdminJonathan November 6 2007 12:30 AM EST

You can be sure I will post when it's fixed.

In the meantime I have reverted most of last night's and today's changes to a point where I think it was more stable. (It looks like a heisenbug in the xml parser I am using.)

lostling November 6 2007 1:04 AM EST

"(It looks like a heisenbug in the xml parser I am using.)" i have no idea what your doing ;) but "YAY! GO JON GO!" :)

AdminJonathan November 6 2007 1:38 AM EST

7 segfaults since I did the revert so that doesn't seem to have been the problem. I undid the revert.

AdminJonathan November 6 2007 1:41 AM EST

Reverted back father in time.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 6 2007 1:43 AM EST

did father time agree to this revert?

Hyrule Castle November 6 2007 1:45 AM EST

obviously novice....obviously....:)

AdminJonathan November 6 2007 9:21 AM EST

No crashes since 1:40, so it does look like the xml parser's fault.

Maelstrom November 6 2007 9:44 AM EST

Can you take us back in time to the weekend? I don't want to be at work... :(

QBJohnnywas November 6 2007 9:44 AM EST

It's like Back To The Future.

QBOddBird November 6 2007 11:53 AM EST

This isn't so much a 'Random BA' issue, but are we back to a 10/min refresh right now? o.O

...Because that's how that just appeared. I got BA at 11:50 server time.

AdminShade November 6 2007 1:50 PM EST

You should get no BA at 12:00 then and again at 12:10 :)
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