NCB whacked (in General)
Tylan
December 7 2007 11:34 PM EST
so I decided to create my first NCB since I had a little cash and I wanted something new. I'm going with a single char, only thing equipped is my RoE. my pr/mpr is showing 166 each, however i'm seeing -99% rewards on every fight. I even retired my main to get the better refresh rate, and burning thru BA i keep seeing a -99% challange reward on anyone even close to my measly 21 score.
Seems like the NCB needs to be looked at.
chuck1234
December 7 2007 11:42 PM EST
battle rewards [and challenge bonus too i suppose] are calculated on YOUR PR and their score...since your PR is 166, if you want to cross over from the red into the black, your opponents score should be greater than 166, better double that amount for greater challenge bonuses up to 100 pc.
Your opponents have a score around 20...
TheHatchetman
December 7 2007 11:51 PM EST
Throw a HoC on, and add 'Critical Damage', 'The high Priestess' and 'TheDarkElf'... problem solved :)
QBOddBird
December 7 2007 11:59 PM EST
NCB doesn't need looking at, but apparently you need to be looking at the Wiki page.
http://www.carnageblender.com/wiki/Challenge+Bonus
Tylan
December 8 2007 1:03 AM EST
ok but how is my pr 166 with nothing on but a RoE? I don't have enough xp yet to translate over into 166pr is my main concern
Tylan
December 8 2007 1:06 AM EST
let me re-add this. i just had made this char and fought maybe 1-2 fights. My PR shouldn't have jumped to 166, even with the xp boost of the RoE
TheHatchetman
December 8 2007 1:08 AM EST
your PR is the same as your MPR, you're fine. just aim higher
Tylan
December 8 2007 1:15 AM EST
yeah after wasting thru 250 ba i'm managing to equalize it again.
just seemed odd for my PR to take such a big jump for such a little amt of exp though. i'm talking under 1k total xp was on the char....
TheHatchetman
December 8 2007 1:17 AM EST
it happens. but like i said, if you want 100% CB from the start, equip a HoC and add the three opponents i told ya to earlier, and you'll be fine :)
Flamey
December 8 2007 1:21 AM EST
The RoE has a NW of 11k, that'd be a bit big for you wouldn't it?
Tylan
December 8 2007 1:23 AM EST
actually Flamey, between i'm not seeing a bit of difference between having it on or not. course my pr/mpr is now 800+ however I don't believe I saw a difference even when i first started it
this could very likely be a product of the new XP setup...
Tylan
December 8 2007 1:25 AM EST
testing my AC with a 100k nw only shows a 10 pr increase, so I wouldn't think the RoE would cause the jump.
but looking at my buy BA page again, i'm still seeing the same cost as with my main Tylan char before retirement
Tylan
December 8 2007 1:34 AM EST
ok so I decided to make sure and created a brand new testing char. 0 fights, no exp Named RoE added nothing to pr. i'll have some more numbers in a bit just to make sure, however I still see the same 563 ba cost I had with my main, even though he's been retired.
Tylan
December 8 2007 1:56 AM EST
more figures- Normal new person, no N*B or NCB
Training 1 point into fireball (12exp) boosted my pr/mpr to 6.
now heres something odd. i went to train my next 12 xp into fireball, and I can't. I have excatly 12 xp, but do not have the option to train any skill. getting 13 xp now allows me to train and I still have the 1 xp leftover. just odd.
2nd point into fireball boosted my overall PR to 10.
3rd point into fireball brings my PR to 13.
5th brings me to 17 PR total.
6th to 20, 7th to 23, etc etc.
in all the figures they are the same with or without the named RoE equipped, no other items.
As far as I can tell everything seems normal except the fact I have to have a min of 13 xp to train into something, always with the one leftover, and the fact my cost per BA is still over 500. So i'm not sure, maybe i've miscalculated my total xp I gained in that short period of time or there may be something else i'm missing.
TheHatchetman
December 8 2007 2:36 AM EST
dude... you're putting yourself through way too much trouble. your PR is equal to MPR... only way to make your PR go any lower would be to equip a HoC below +5 before it was fixed... aside from that, whether your PR seems high to you or not, it is what it is...
Tylan
December 8 2007 2:56 AM EST
i'm just trying to locate the sudden jump that I experienced Hatchet. i'm not disputing the pr/mpr ratios or the fact of pr/score for the challenge bonus.
AdminShade
December 8 2007 6:33 AM EST
You should fight people with a higher SCORE in respect to your PR...
Also if you fight below your own SCORE you will get diminished rewards also.
in other words: fight higher! :)
AdminShade
December 8 2007 6:37 AM EST
Tylan, and about the experience requirement.
The figures you see are rounded. If you'd see 12 exp, it could be 11.9 exp instead and making you not able to train it.
Flamey
December 8 2007 6:47 AM EST
so the actual rewards we get are decimals and not whole numbers and they just get rounded?
AdminShade
December 8 2007 6:53 AM EST
They could be rounded yes. as far as I know from back in the old old days of darkness.
Tylan
December 8 2007 12:53 PM EST
that explains that part then shade.
my main concern was I saw a jump of 600 pr score in a matter of a few fights, without the stats that should have gone with it. still can't figure it out, but it's evening out again so it's all good.
Either that or i'm going out of my mind :D
AdminShade
December 8 2007 1:00 PM EST
When you win a few fights after another against a character who's score and PR are quite higher than that of you, then your score will rise very rapidly.
That might be the problem of your higher rising score.
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