CB2 takes OVER (in Off-topic)
QBOddBird
May 7 2008 1:43 PM EDT
Gun discovered a new game, started just today, called Wild Guns! and we as a CB2 community are going to TAKE OVER.
As of right now, there are a goodly number of CB'ers who have started, and we intend to form an in-game alliance and beat out all competition.
Currently playing are:
[CB1]Gun
rent
Moltenwolf
drudge
Hakai
Soxjr
Come help us take the game over! We're all gathering on Server 4.
wildguns.co.uk
Spreadsheet
Edit:
Steps to Register for Spydah's WG Forum:
1. Go to http://www.spydah.com/forums/
2. Sign up. You will not see anything when you first sign up. This is to prevent people not in the CB alliance from seeing the forums.
3. Message Spydah on CB or on Wild Guns with the user name you used to sign up on the forum website.
4. Spydah will add you to the list, and then post away!
What nation? or doesn't it matter? :/
QBOddBird
May 7 2008 1:52 PM EDT
Doesn't matter what nation you choose :) Just make sure you choose Server 4 so you can come find us and join up to conquer the WORLD
Eh. Bored already. In tut and it's taking 9 minutes to build one of my two farms.. Gah...
8DEOTWP
May 7 2008 3:21 PM EDT
JahRoor
I'm building up Roorsdale
29 minutes to build a granery. And not being able to build (and therefore do anything else) in the meantime. No thanks...
QBOddBird
May 7 2008 3:24 PM EDT
Awwww. =(
Well, it's a fun combination with CB2 for me :)
BluBBen
May 7 2008 4:02 PM EDT
I'm in!
Username : BluBBen (of curse)
Xenko
May 7 2008 4:20 PM EDT
I've started. We'll see if I get bored. Name is Xenko.
I think I'll try it, too. Doesn't look promising, considering games I've tried before and didn't like. One stands out specifically. Looks practically exactly like Wild Guns (hopefully it's not as bad as I found the other one).
I'll probably quit before the week's over, but... eh. Why not?
Yeah, I'm bored already. It's the exact same as another game I've played (and hated). Everything takes too long, and nothing really interests me in it.
drudge
May 7 2008 6:30 PM EDT
*number being dialed* hello? waaambulance? i've got an emergency! tyriel needs help! stat!
I'll check it out when I get home.. This better not be another crappy game that sucks.
Obscurans
May 7 2008 7:02 PM EDT
Another gameforge spinout? Ogame was the only good one they ever put out, and that's slowly dying. All they do these days is use the exact same system and put a new GUI/theme over it.
I'm in.
Building up my Main building right now, which I think people should build up first. It takes a while, but chops your buildings times down.
Yeah but the building times don't matter when you don't have any resources to build with....
Oh yea, how often does your supplies regenerate? Every 10 minutes? I couldn't find that anywhere in the game, and that would sure be helpful to calculate what needs to be done when.
hzarb
May 7 2008 7:31 PM EDT
Giving it a shot... looks boring but will try & stick it for a while..
Well, from what I gather, you get whatever the (+#) per hour, though it goes up little by little throughout the hour.
Someone please correct me, if I misunderstand how it works...
Soxjr
May 7 2008 7:39 PM EDT
it's the number per hour. but it adds up like... 24 per hour would be 4 every 6 minutes. or 1 every 1 minute 30 seconds.
8DEOTWP
May 7 2008 7:40 PM EDT
Resources are more important than building your main up initially.
Do we have a CB alliance yet?
I am Zandagarth in 168, 212
I haven't had the chance to build an Embassy yet. Currently we have no alliance, but I am at 196|225
Daz
May 8 2008 12:15 AM EDT
/me smoke signals, "DazS reporting for duty."
QBOddBird
May 8 2008 12:17 AM EDT
How!
Phrede
May 8 2008 12:56 AM EDT
Im in as Freed at 201/162
celsis
May 8 2008 2:36 AM EDT
I am in with the same name
i'm playing as well as LightningRaider at 251 / 141
Daz
May 8 2008 3:09 AM EDT
139 / 241
Tutorial isn't going to get finished until tomorrow, as far as I can tell. It's going to take ages to get the resources...
Eccle123
May 8 2008 3:18 AM EDT
Well i've started playing a quite fun game called "12 sky". Its completely free, rather addictive and the graphics are good. Anyone else play?
Mastodont
May 8 2008 3:59 AM EDT
Username: Mastodont
City: Death valley (173 / 172)
playing.... The Pope.... that be me...
What part of the Tutorial are you in? And yes, it's best to follow it for the Resource award instead of branching out and doing your own thing.
I'm at the part where I need to build:
1 Hideout, 1 Ramport & 5 Farmers (Hideout and 2 farmers on the way).
Hopefully I"ll be able to do the rest after I get home from work tonight, but the farmers take about 40 minutes each, so I would suggest making them asap.
Is anyone else past that point in the Tutorial?
RedX3s village (221 / 149)
Depth into Tut: Expand 2 woodcutter`s huts, 2 iron mines and 2 clay pits by one level!
Only have one Iron mine expanded and working on 1st clay pit expansion.
Xenko
May 8 2008 9:31 AM EDT
I'm at the same spot as RX3.
Seeing as the manual isn't terribly illuminating, does anyone know what the booze trek unit actually does? It would seem that it possesses the ability to completely capture a village, but I'm hoping I'm wrong on that.
forgot to list my coords: 260/145
AngelOfDeaths village (129 / 239)
this is my little village
celsis
May 8 2008 9:58 AM EDT
forgot my cords as well here is mine
CeslisHaven (130/236)
Xenko
May 8 2008 9:58 AM EDT
To clarify, I meant I am at the same spot in the tutorial as RX3.
My location is 212/253.
deifeln
May 8 2008 10:12 AM EDT
deifeln 186/120
deifeln
May 8 2008 10:16 AM EDT
Mikel is in 2nd place :o)
Lochnivar
May 8 2008 10:58 AM EDT
just so I'm on the record:
Dos Cervezas (234 / 136)
I'm in Senor.
wrathless - village (183 / 126)
Spellcheck does not like it when I put wrath and less together
deifeln
May 8 2008 11:09 AM EDT
wrathless...we're on the same map page. we should probable coordinate early on.
AdminG Beee
May 8 2008 1:07 PM EDT
Jacobyte: (276/182)
For those just starting, after the 2 farms make 1 or 2 clays off the bat.
Also, be sure to activate your account. There is a rumor floating around on the forums that if you don't, your account will be deleted after 7 days. Better safe than sorry!
The activation can be resent, and often shows up in the spam folder.
No activation link was sent. Used the "Resend activation" feature. Still nothing in the email.
Lammy, it's not in your "Spam" folder?
Which @____.com are you using?
And for all those wondering how, just click on "Settings" to find where you can activate your account.
deifeln
May 8 2008 3:16 PM EDT
I also do not see my link (also hotmail)
Bartman
May 8 2008 3:18 PM EDT
I'm in as well. Bartman (go figure) is my account.
I'm having the same problem with activation. I'm using earthlink and it doesn't seem to receive the email. It not in my spam folder either. Anyone have a solution?
Soxjr
May 8 2008 3:21 PM EDT
i would say to change the settings on your spam to accept mail from this place. and then it should go in your regular mail maybe? i don't know
deifeln
May 8 2008 3:27 PM EDT
It isn't in my spam folder either
Apparently, hotmail isn't working out that well. It has been suggested that you use either Yahoo! or Gmail for the activation, but who knows.
deifeln
May 8 2008 3:37 PM EDT
I just switched to gmail and it works. This kinda' sucks 'cause I use my hotmail acct. for gaming and such to reduce crap emails I get on my gmail
drudge
May 8 2008 3:56 PM EDT
drudge's village is
40oz to freedom x:167 y:188
reppin la raza
Xenko
May 8 2008 3:56 PM EDT
Yeah it isn't getting through hotmail. G-mail works fine.
IndependenZ
May 8 2008 4:16 PM EDT
Okay you guys have convinced me, so I started playing as well. I'm already playing too many webgames as it is though, so we'll see how long I'll last.
Sergeant Bromsnor is my name, and my coordinates are 121/176. :)
Guess I'll stop playing. ;p That's really lame a game restricts which email you can use. Especially in this day and age.
Lamu, I don't think it is intentional :(
Don't leave us!!!
Bartman
May 8 2008 5:49 PM EDT
I've tried changing my email but it won't let me until I activate my account. Frustrating!!!!
Bartman
May 8 2008 5:50 PM EDT
Bartz Town at:
x-140
Y-207
I joined to see, Im HenkBres in 228/102
Lochnivar
May 8 2008 6:03 PM EDT
Lamu... it didn't work for me originally
(the original registration link only took very little info from me)
I have, however, since registered successfully and that is using my hotmail account.
j'bob
May 8 2008 6:07 PM EDT
drudge's village is
40oz to freedom x:167 y:188
reppin la raza
homage to brad! "mucho gust, me llamo bradley"
Bartman
May 8 2008 6:33 PM EDT
I'm hoping to build my embassy in the next 24 hours or so. When I do, I'll create an alliance called Carnage and we can all join.
Sound good?
Well, apparently there is a cap of how many can join an alliance per level of Embassy.
I only know that someone posted you can have 9 members @ level 3 Embassy, but that is not confirmed yet.
We may have to have mini-alliances until we get big enough to have 1 huge alliance.
The way I took it is that if you want to join an alliance, you must have an embassy. To create your own, you must have a level 3 embassy.
So, start building your embassy's people....
icydragons village (281 / 178)
having trouble with activation e-mail also, have tried 4 different providers and hasn't appeared at any yet but I'll still be playing now and then.
Bartman
May 8 2008 8:16 PM EDT
I finally sent a message to an admin. We'll see if I get a response.
deifeln
May 8 2008 8:31 PM EDT
Let's wait a few days before building an embassy. Just focus on resources for another day or two.
I agree. Besides that, we will need multiple Alliances at the moment, which means we'll have to split in groups.
This is something that should be done once we have a strong enough foothold and plenty of resources/defense.
I'm on there, as ColonelCustard. My village is at coordinates 143,145.
dj1914
May 8 2008 10:20 PM EDT
dj1914 126/264
A!A!: 154, 162
OB: 195,180
Wolfy: 196,181
Hakai: 196,225
Xenko: 212,253
Gun: 185, 214
Loch: 234,136
Freed: 201,162
Bartman: 140, 207
RX3: 221, 149
G_Bee: 276, 182
Defiant: 260, 145
AoD: 129, 239
Celsis: 130, 236
Deifeln: 186, 120
Wrathless: 183, 126
Henk: 228, 102
Drudge: 167, 188
ColonelCustard: 143, 145
Zoglog: 281, 178
Independenz: 121, 176
Darkwalker: 168, 212
LightningRaider: 251, 141
Daz: 139, 241
Mastodont: 173, 172
Did I miss anyone?
Gigan
May 8 2008 10:35 PM EDT
I'm in as Gigan.
My town is Crow's Gulch (287 / 242).
8DEOTWP
May 8 2008 11:43 PM EDT
JahRoor
Roorsdale (156 , 195)
8DEOTWP
May 8 2008 11:49 PM EDT
does anyone know why there are a few words in German? the makers seemed to be Asian..
Soxjr
May 8 2008 11:59 PM EDT
you missed me :)
Mikels village (255 / 163)
Phrede
May 9 2008 1:46 AM EDT
I was about to suggest that someone make a list - well done. Who ever is ahead of the game should create and upgrade their embassies anyone joining the alliance should also donate stuff to help upgrade the main embassy. If it works anything like Travian did - yes there is a limit to each alliance but you can then form secondary alliances and on the main alliance page mention that attacking any secondary alliance will bring down the wrath of all. We will send out AoD to Reap a few souls :)
QBOddBird
May 9 2008 3:12 AM EDT
Hah! I'm all proud of myself for being #4, and then I see Bartman is #3!
BootyGod
May 9 2008 3:20 AM EDT
Currently 6th here, Gun 7th, Hakai 12th.
IndependenZ
May 9 2008 4:07 AM EDT
As I see it, we are already taking over. There are almost no alliances formed yet, and if we team up we'll instantly reign supreme :P
Lingualas village (248 / 285)
hehe, slow game though, takes forever to get raws...
Hayek Junction (126 / 235)
Here's a quick way to rule them all...
Wood 80 | Clay 70 | Iron 120 |Grain 70 | Worker Slots(Score gain) 4
Only Iron is in triple digits. Good score gain. Leads to this.
If the six or so more of us who fight for top 20 partly specialize in one resource each. Could form a short term trading syndicate to cover each other leap frog style to get tutorial rewards and share part of the profit with trading partners in succession or simply forward each growth with the excess. In order to cover more ground which we can't otherwise wait for. This is also a fun way to plan. This thinking would work best with GW & OB.
Would 3 persons working +48 while 3 others work +15 grain to be more efficient than the xenophobia we have now? We don't even need embassies for contact.
Oops. Forgot to mention that's the market building for us indian.
Well, I can try this to see how it goes. I don't have my marketplace up yet, but my current stats are:
Wood 195 (+32) | Clay 175 (+32) | Iron 136 (+28) | Food 94 (+13) Food consumption 49/62 Approval Rating 100%
I have 3 lvl 2 wood, 2 lvl 2 Iron, 3 lvl 2 clay, 3 lvl 2 food, and 2 lvl 3 food.
I have 0 archers at the moment, but I have completed all the other steps of the tutorial to that point.
(The time is 9:12 a.m. server time)
Please add me to the list.
Stingiestbards village (237 / 196)
Got one and jumped to 3rd.
Sent Hakai 70 wood & 70 clay to tide her over from using nuggets. Only took 1hr 15mins.
Let this be known for direct sending: You can send raw materials only to your own villages and the ones belonging to members of your alliance.
Sweet, it worked.
FYI, when you get a delivery, the "messages" box glows blue, then you go into "trading reports."
The subject is "Raw materials were delivered" and inside it says: A merchant arrived from Loaded Rifle and delivers the following goods, then lists the resources and how much of each.
IndependenZ
May 9 2008 11:31 AM EDT
So... I've read that an alliance can hold up to nine members. But I haven't found anything about the benefits of an alliance. Why bother when you can send materials to eachother anyway?
Maybe we should put the list above in our Wild Guns-profile, just to scare people off. "Proud members of CB2" :P
deifeln
May 9 2008 1:16 PM EDT
If clans max out at nine, we should from strategic groups on nine (resource specific/production specific members) . Obviously, there would be implied collusion between groups (no attacking).
Perhaps adding a [CB] tag to the beginning of each clan name would make this easier. Also, would be nice if all of our clans were in the top clan point spaces :o)
Aeris
Village: Nibelheim
Coordinates: 263, 155
QBOddBird
May 9 2008 2:15 PM EDT
Clans maxing out at 9?
I hadn't heard of such a thing. We can just make multiple CB2 clans though :)
Xenko
May 9 2008 2:48 PM EDT
I think alliances start with a maximum of 9 members when your embassy is level 3. As your embassy level increases, the number of members allowed also increases.
I've started an Embassy, I'll build a market later tonight.
chuck1234
May 9 2008 3:24 PM EDT
[CB]chuckville (202 / 245)
just started playing and am still in beginner's protection mode
IndependenZ
May 9 2008 3:30 PM EDT
ActionAction: 154/162
Aeris: 263/155 (Lamuness)
AngelOfDeath: 129/239
Bartman: 140/207
BluBBen
celsis: 130/236
ColonelCustard: 143/145
Daz: 139/241
DeFiAnT: 260/145
deifeln: 186/120
dj1914
drudge: 167/188
Freed: 201/162
GentlemanLoser
Gigan: 287/242
Godwolf: 196/181
Gun: 185/214
Hakai: 196/225
HenkBres: 228/102
hzarb
InebriatedArsonist: 126/235
icydragon: 281/178 (Zoglog)
Jacobyte: 276/182 (G_Beee)
Jahroor: 156/195
Levon
LightningRaider: 251/141
Linguala: 248/285
Lochnivar: 234/136
Mastodont: 173/172
Mikel: 255/163
OddBird: 195/180
PainKiller
RedX3: 221/149
Sergeant Bromsnor: 121/176 (IndependenZ)
Soxjr
Stingiestbard: 237/196
The Pope
Tyriel
Verifex
wrathless: 183/126
Xenko: 212/253
Zandagarth: 168/212 (Darkwalker)
Here's a updated list. The first name is the name a person uses in Wild Guns, the numbers are the coordinates of the town, and the name in brackets is the name that person uses in CB. Please, feel free to add the information I'm missing or forgot :)
Too many misspelled words are driving me crazy. Names are very hard for the CB spellcheck. And since I don't feel like adding <br> tags everywhere, I am inserting this little piece of text. My apologies if you read this thing.
Why not just make a docs.google spreadsheet? It'd be much easier than the way it's being done now I'd think.
"I think alliances start with a maximum of 9 members when your embassy is level 3. As your embassy level increases, the number of members allowed also increases." This is correct.
Indeed we don't need to waste raws to be cool...yet. Don't care if you list us in your profile, I'm still laughing at my last invite from TheBestPlayersofWildGuns. When we started playing said it would be a race to start the ally, first one there runs it. That goes for all.
Ally names would be close to [CB2NADs] Carnage Blender Native American Division. ;)
QBOddBird
May 9 2008 7:31 PM EDT
Hehe, we -could- have an Indian, Mexican, and Cowboy alliance.
I vote for Carnage Blender Treaty Organization (CBTO).
8DEOTWP
May 9 2008 8:13 PM EDT
I vote for ACBF Allied Carnage Blender Forces
Who ever makes it, takes it. :P
Anyone know how to increase raw food material income? I have 2 farms at 3 and 2 at 2 but it's still +5.
Nevermind. Found out for my self... Have to build a Mill, which requires a level 5 farm.
You don't have to wait that long. If you upgrade your farm a couple times in a row WITHOUT building anything in between, your +# will go up. Whenever you build something besides your farm, it lowers the +#.
So upgrade 1 or 2 farms, Let that build up a bit, then build whatever you want later. This is the most effective way I have found so far.
I currently have 4 farms at level 3. I have completely abandoned everything but making farms for the moment. It's proving to be quite helpful.
Yeah, wheat is a serious choke point as far as raw materials are concerned. It looks like any decent building strategy will have to account for building and unit upkeep with increased food production compared to the other materials.
Is it supposed to be that way or is it a glitch? ... Either way, wish I'd have known about it before.
I'm sure the game accurately reflects the intentions of creators, Entreri. One of my favorite games,
Master of Magic used a somewhat similar system for food production and upkeep. You just have to plan ahead.
Bartman
May 10 2008 8:23 AM EDT
I just checked the top scores. We have 9 players in the top 100 right now. If we all join the same alliance, we are definitely in the top spot.
BluBBen
May 10 2008 9:37 AM EDT
My town: BluBBen x:167 y:162
Bartman
May 10 2008 11:07 AM EDT
Alliance is up and open. I could only invite 8 so far but that'll change when I expand again. We'll see how fast we can rise to the top of the chart!
AdminG Beee
May 10 2008 11:25 AM EDT
Sheeze, I made a couple of poor build choices and am now having to wait a day for my food reserves to build up enough for me to do anything else...
I can't trade/receive until I have a Market place ?
AbbathorX
May 10 2008 11:35 AM EDT
Fear me. Ranked #1178.
AbbathorXs village (175 / 263).
So everyone needs a marketplace and embassy to be able to contribute yes?
G_Beee, you can receive. I have not yet built my marketplace, but Gun managed to send me some clay and wood anyway.
deifeln
May 10 2008 11:37 AM EDT
Don't woory about building an embassy until the end of your 'protection'. Just focus on resources.
AdminG Beee
May 10 2008 11:39 AM EDT
Well, I can't do anything until my food resource builds up.
Might as well go to the pub :)
edyits village (122 / 267)
Bartman, I have accepted your invitation and have joined your alliance. What resource do you want me to focus on? ......We should all focus on a particular resource to maximise our potential.....
I have 2 lvl 3 and 3 lvl 2 food (adding more soon), 3 lvl 2 wood n clay n 2 lvl 2 iron..... Let me know which 1 of the 3 resource I should focus. ( wood, clay n iron)
I m in the train 5 farmer part of the tutorial. Cheers!
Bartman
May 10 2008 1:36 PM EDT
Welcome Zan!
You get a bonus on resources when you finish the tutorial so finishing that should be your first goal.
Food is going to be the short pole in the tent for all of us so that's where you should focus your efforts after the tutorial.
IndependenZ
May 10 2008 1:50 PM EDT
Two members, and you're already in sixth of the top alliances, lol. Nice job! lol
I started a new account in the sixth server, as a Mexican. They're great fun too :D
I just accepted your invitation :)
Alliance is 3rd Strongest now.
And only 3 of us in it.
Zandagarth
Bartman
Mikel
And yes, everyone should focus on Farms.
I have 3 Level 3, 3 Level 2, and all other resources are Level 2 (Iron, Clay and Wood).
And my Protection doesn't end until another 4 1/2 days.
i agree with the farms... i just discovered it as a weakness
I'm producing +17 food, currently. I could join the alliance, if you guys want me to. How do I do that, by the way?
Sorry Bart, couldn't join. I don't have an embassy yet.
In order to join, you must have an Embassy level 1.
Post here and/or let Bartman know you have one so he can invite you.
But more importantly, keep those Farms and resources coming in. Don't worry about following the Tutorial too much.
If you have your resources coming in at a good rate, you'll fly thru a few of the tutorial Requirements.
First level: Build up 2 farms to level 2
Second Level: Build Storage for Raw Materials and a Granary
Third: Get 2 Iron, 2 wood and 2 clay up to Level 2
Forth: Build Barracks, up Main to level 3
Fifth: Train X Units, and Build a Hideout and Up your Rampart to level 1
Done!
That is if I recall it all correctly. The Hideout might be in the wrong spot.
hideout is right, i'm at the last step but need to concentrate on food for a couple of days
How long does the whole tutorial take?
8DEOTWP
May 10 2008 4:40 PM EDT
As long as it takes to follow it, but it rewards well.
BootyGod
May 10 2008 5:40 PM EDT
Building embassy now. I'll be in it soon =D
what do i get for finishing the tutorial?
...
Did you read the bottom of the tutorial page?
"After finishing the tutorial, you receive a premium account and increased raw material production for one week!"
In addition to that, for each step you complete you are awarded resources as a bonus.
yeah, i was talking about the resource bonus
Soxjr
May 10 2008 8:00 PM EDT
definately are why you want your resourses high before you finish last step of tutorial.
On the alliance there is a forum area. i have posted a welcome and also if you post needing anything that maybe we can work tegether... lets test this out. click your embasy then click to alliance. then there is a forum link for those in the alliance that want to check it out
It seems like I always have a short supply of clay as well... I should have been the Mexican's or something.
I'm running out of clay and i'm mexican
Lochnivar
May 10 2008 9:35 PM EDT
I have a shiny new embassy... if only I had somewhere to belong (pretty please)
8DEOTWP
May 10 2008 9:41 PM EDT
I'm JahMex on S6, and JahReds on S5 if anyone wants to start an alliance.
By Monday, I hope to have an embassy built and be ready to join the alliance.
Just joined the CB 1 alliance.
Bartman
May 10 2008 11:46 PM EDT
I'm looking to expand my embassy tomorrow. When I do, I'll be able to take more members.
Daz
May 11 2008 12:28 AM EDT
Wow, this game is slow. I havent yet worked out if thats a good thing or not.
Well... I wont be playing it. For some reason my computer errors every time I try to do anything... o.O
Phrede
May 11 2008 2:03 AM EDT
I just joined :)
For those of you just joining, pump your farms up heavily.
I am making quite a bit of food per hour now, and I have a level 2 Market (and will continue to grow it and my farms) so I use that to get the best deals from people that want food.
You can easily get better than a 1:1 ratio. Food seems to be vastly under rated in this game until you get going and then you realize you need tons more.
For example, I just traded 100 Food for 140 Logs, and before that I traded 100 food for 120 Iron.
yep, food really is hard to come by.
Pump your farms up every time you get below 100 food...
As for the real reason, we're late with forming an alliance.
I'm already seeing several alliances showing up and gaining members.
Currently doing the last task, only need to build 5 farmers and I'm ready.
After that, I will begin building the embassy as fast as I can.
I'm still counting 3 days though...(could this game be any slower?)
8DEOTWP
May 11 2008 4:52 AM EDT
you'll be glad it goes slow when you're getting raided :)
Ok guys....for those who have finished the tutorials....what's next? troops or trade?
there im ready to get invited in the guild
so, should I keep my other raw materials at lvl 2 and pump my food?
Bartman
May 11 2008 7:42 AM EDT
Yes, Food seems to be the resource that slows growth.
AdminG Beee
May 11 2008 8:24 AM EDT
You shouldn't just go for food without first thinking about what you're trying to build next. Also, I think each class has a slightly different ratio of what's needed when.
It's really a case of working out what you're looking to build and then some simple arithmetic.
My next requirement is to "build" a further 3 'Poncho's' (Mexican soldiers).
To do so I need a sum total of 480 iron, 390 wood, 345 clay and 180 food.
Knowing your refresh rate means you can see what you should really be working on. It's going to take me 1090 mins to get what I need on iron and only 540 mins to get what I need for food.
Should I bite the bullet and build another iron mine to actually complete my Poncho's quicker than if I were just to do the soldiers first..?
Yes, I should. My refresh rate on iron will increase enough to justify an iron mine being built and I should actually end up completing my 3 Poncho's quicker...
Should I look beyond my 3 soldiers to what the next building is and understand the food requirements for that too. Of course, but I can't be bothered...
I still like the game though :)
AdminG Beee
May 11 2008 8:26 AM EDT
In saying that, the food refresh rate doesn't appear to stay constant but actually drops. Must remember to keep an eye on that...
It drops when you build. But if you have food built up over time, the impact is less. That's how I see it anyway...
But G_Beee is right, building up your food while ignoring everything else is senseless, as someone will just come and take it. Don't forget to keep an eye on when your protection is over...
Bartman
May 11 2008 8:43 AM EDT
That's a good point Hakai. Once the resources were under control, I built an academy to train soldiers. I'll be training soldiers as soon as I upgrade my embassy.
AdminG Beee
May 11 2008 8:46 AM EDT
Does it drop +1 every time you build something ?
8DEOTWP
May 11 2008 8:51 AM EDT
When you build something, it will show a crossed-out grain and a number - that's how much grain refresh the unit/building steals.
Most things take one, yes. Farm upgrades and building the hideout take 0, and there are a couple things I've seen (building upgrades) that cost 2. It's shown in the building cost as
"Wood 325 | Clay 240 | Iron 350 | Food 50 | (crossed-out food symbol) 1"
should I try to finish the tutorial or build up my resources?
AdminG Beee
May 11 2008 10:03 AM EDT
I'd advise you finish the tutorial given that you get resource bonuses each time you complete a step.
spydah
May 11 2008 10:31 AM EDT
DarkWeb (180 / 148)
Embassy will be ready in 30ish...
/\88/\
Xenko
May 11 2008 11:29 AM EDT
So what could happen if you are attacked/raided? I assume resources can be taken, but can buildings be damaged/destroyed as well?
Well you can build up how ever you want, but I just traded:
170 Food for 200 Clay, and 85 Food for 100 Iron. (One more level and I'll have a level 5 Farm and then I'll build a bakery for a nice food boost).
So GB is somewhat correct in not dismissing your other resources, but you can easily put a trade 100 for for some resources.
80 (+20) Food consumption 59/79
Look at it like this. I am currently using 59 pieces of grain per hour, but producing 79 pieces per hour. So my profit is 20 pieces per hour.
Tezmac
May 11 2008 2:05 PM EDT
Tezmacia (183 / 305)
Tezmac
May 11 2008 2:57 PM EDT
So you have to be logged in for "game time" to go by?
Tezmac
May 11 2008 2:57 PM EDT
Oops, looks like not, nevermind!
is there a rule in wild guns that says I can't buy resources with stuff outside of the game?
From what I understand, as long as you can send resources using the "send raw materials" function, it doesn't have to be an even trade...so I guess, yes, you can.
Phrede
May 11 2008 5:01 PM EDT
Wonder what the cb$ exchange rate is for the various goods :)
Soxjr
May 11 2008 5:11 PM EDT
i'll supply anything to anyone for some money to pay my debt here :P haha. j/k
8DEOTWP
May 11 2008 5:57 PM EDT
recently traded 200 food for 280 clay, that's a Mikel-style deal ;P
lol, I would do 1k-1.5k per resource.
Well, I traded 50 wood, 50 clay, 50 iron, and 50 food for 300k CBD. There's a starting point you guys can jump off of to set a standard.
8DEOTWP
May 11 2008 6:12 PM EDT
WTB Raws
are we allowed to ask to buy stuff here?
deifeln
May 11 2008 7:12 PM EDT
I just sold 60 grain for 100 iron... :o)
I'd like to ask to be included in the alliance. Coordinates: 143,145. Call me.
just finished building my embassy
Lochnivar
May 12 2008 1:49 AM EDT
nice list RX3,
just one note..
My screen name there is the same as here, my village is named dos cervezas.
I"m saving up for my first mill right now ;)
well, I've given this a try as well... Just started an hour or so ago...
[umk]Fangs
coordinates: 205 / 96
Phrede
May 12 2008 4:03 AM EDT
We need to help Bartman with his Embassy so the alliance can take on more members. Also maybe Mikel or another advanced player should start upping his to start another alliance that has a non aggression treaty with all other CB alliances.
Bartman - what level is your embassy - and what mats do you need to up it a level or so ?
why can't I build more archers? can't I build units when some are out looting?
AdminG Beee
May 12 2008 6:29 AM EDT
OK, I've finished the tutorial.
If I build an embassy will someone invite me? If there's no invites available I'll continue to harvest more raw materials and put in place preparations for when my protection finishes.
I'd rather join an alliance though - does anyone want me ? :)
ok i've made a second alliance, anyone that wants to join cm me and i bartman let me know if you want to be allies with me
we already have 2 alliances...
An alliance can hold at least 60 people, so I'm sure we've got enough for now.
As for me, I've built my lvl1 embassy, just need an invitation to one of the alliances.
IndependenZ
May 12 2008 7:06 AM EDT
Indeed, nice list RX3! Spreadsheets do work better :D
After getting a few farmers, my food output is finally enough to be able to build efficiently... I need to upgrade my rampart to finish this tutorial chapter. After that, I'm building an embassy and will try to join one of the CB alliances. Nice work on starting the second one, AoD!
Phrede
May 12 2008 8:32 AM EDT
Bartman - do you need any help with the Embassy upgrades - we have many people waiting to join. Also I think it would be a good idea to allow someone else to help with the admin (preferably from a different time zone than the US).
Draugluin
May 12 2008 10:38 AM EDT
Draugluin
Draugluins village (162 / 102)
Just joined, resources seem a mite slow
AdminG Beee
May 12 2008 10:48 AM EDT
With all this resource making activity going on for raw materials, is anyone actually building military to help the alliance when we inevitably get raided ?
im an indian so im building a huge force just to raid over and over.
Raiding is far more profitable then just building up your building. Attack some of those bandit villages in your sector to gain fast resources.
AdminG Beee
May 12 2008 10:57 AM EDT
I'm still under protection so can't be attacked yet, I assume that means I can't attack either (I only have 5 basic units anyway).
What's the strat for attacking ? Can one class attack a different class only, or can it attack the same as itself?
I'm Mexican btw.
Tezmac
May 12 2008 11:01 AM EDT
"Raiding is far more profitable then just building up your building. Attack some of those bandit villages in your sector to gain fast resources. "
I was wondering if this would be the case. Please, explain further!
DrAcO5676s village (198 / 98)
QBOddBird
May 12 2008 1:06 PM EDT
Beee - nope, you can attack whomever you'd like, except me. :)
And yeah, some of us are preparing our military. I've grown 10 archers and will be working on horsemen soon enough. ;'D
Everyone knows that they can send out troops to raid the inactive (gray) camps, yes?
AdminG Beee
May 12 2008 1:25 PM EDT
Do now...
Yeah, apparently it takes no resources to do it, and it brings in quite a bit. I was not aware of it until about 5 minutes before I posted. ^_^
Tezmac
May 12 2008 1:27 PM EDT
What the recommended minimum to send on a raid and come out ahead (subtracting out lost raiders)?
Well, according to Gun, you don't lose any when raiding gray camps. He reccomends sending all of them. I send out 10 archers at a time. Make sure it is "Raid" though, not attack or back up. Also, be sure to click "OK" on the "meeting place" screen.
Don't keep an army on def. keep them on the move and farm those greys. lvl1 rampart & lvl1 hideout should be enough. If anyone attacks you post here.
for the ones who are out of protection already, were you attacked right away or did nobody figure it out
QBOddBird
May 12 2008 1:37 PM EDT
oh crud, are we out of protection now?
Xenko
May 12 2008 2:44 PM EDT
It should say on your settings screen whether you are still under protection or not, right at the very top.
Bartman
May 12 2008 3:13 PM EDT
I just upgraded my embassy and sent out invites to:
Lochnivar
Spydah
Hakai
I'll continue to add members as my embassy permits.
Angel of Death has an alliance with only 2 members. We need to grow that one as well.
QBOddBird
May 12 2008 3:22 PM EDT
Geeez. My biggest goal: Eventually getting an Assembly Point. :P
i can add 4 more peopel for now but still upgrading my embassy but people gone have to protect me incase people try to attack me since all my resources go to upgrading the alliance
Phrede
May 12 2008 4:00 PM EDT
Guys - join AoD and get in TH alliance - we will own this.
I attacked a next door neighbour for the first time a while ago - lost one troops and got 50 of each material back - not good
Serialkillers village (133 / 278)
Bartman
May 12 2008 4:29 PM EDT
Embassy upgrades allow me to add an 3 additional members to the clan per upgrade.
This is what I need for a level 5 embassy:
Wood 485 | Clay 350 | Stone 405 | Grain 215
I'm currently building resources at the following rate:
Wood (+45) | Clay (+45)| Stone (+52)| Grain (+9)
Any resources donated will go directly to the next embassy upgrade.
im also going for embassy 5 but im going to bed in few minutes so i can probebly get my embassy to lvl 7 tomorrow morning
AdminG Beee
May 12 2008 4:43 PM EDT
I'll send you over 100 Grain as soon as I get my market place completed Bartman.
Soxjr
May 12 2008 4:46 PM EDT
I'll send some mats to both of you. I have my resources pretty high right now.
I'll help as best I can.
QBRanger
May 12 2008 4:55 PM EDT
Ranger Roost (194 / 317)
Seems I have no grey villages around me.
AdminG Beee
May 12 2008 4:56 PM EDT
I wouldn't attack the greys anyway. You'll lose a troop or two and the rewards won't compensate. At least that's my experience...
Lochnivar
May 12 2008 5:02 PM EDT
from to Arrival at Duration
Dos Cervezas Bartz Town 13.05.08 06:12 7:13:19
30 Wood
30 Clay
30 Iron
60 Food
not exactly lightning fast transport... If I'd known it took so long I would have sent more.... ah well
how many alliances do we have now? And which one could i join?
Soxjr
May 12 2008 5:05 PM EDT
I agree with bee. I did a raid, and unlike on Travian where if you raid someone and they don't have units none of yours die... here it seems they can. and that makes it not worth it.
QBRanger
May 12 2008 5:19 PM EDT
Q: when it says xxx production, how long is the interval this production occurs?
Every 20 min? Every hour?
if you have 10 archers as indians, you get free raids (at least when they don't have nighttime bonus) - 25 mins 1 way for about 100 units of each resource. seems good to me.
btw: I only raid other NPC indian camps. maybe players later.
QBOddBird
May 12 2008 5:36 PM EDT
Dude, GW, are you off WG? Your town is gray....
deifeln
May 12 2008 5:36 PM EDT
Bartman,
Please add me to the alliance if you can (just got an embassy). I will send resources.
AdminG Beee
May 12 2008 6:02 PM EDT
Sent you 100 grain Bartman. Looks like it's coming via the slow boat from China.
deifeln
May 12 2008 6:08 PM EDT
does making someone else an additional leader in the alliance allow for quicker expansion?
I've noticed a statistic called "attacker luck" in the battle reports. In 3 raids I've launched so far, I have lost one single unit, in a raid where my attacker luck was at -8.4%. The other two were 12% and 17% attacker luck, and nothing died. This was using only 5 attacking raiders, by the way.
Bartman
May 12 2008 6:20 PM EDT
Not sure. I added Freed as a Co-Leader. We'll see if it helps.
If everyone could send b/t 50-100 of whatever resources they can spare, I can use a couple of nuggets to even things out and make the upgrades possible faster.
For the record I am SittingBullet. Seems there was some confusion.
Want to make this clear to CB2 and any other CB alliance.
Don't list our positions!!!! Or use our CB names, use game names.
So you mean AoD's alliance, which lists everybody's position? You can check, it's currently rank 9 in the Ally Top 10.
deifeln
May 12 2008 6:30 PM EDT
I have sent AoD an in game message about this
But why? Don't we want them to know who exactly to send their armies and farmers to?
*dry laughter*
What do farmers do? Where do you build them? I built 10 archers, and it told me the tutorial was over.
I think only Cowboys have archers. You can assign them to either wood, iron, clay, or grain. For each one you assign, it gains you +1 raw material production (of which the farmer was assigned) per hour. They're kinda like a base defensive unit with an added bonus.
Updated Spreadsheet. Can an admin post this in the OP maybe?
And also...
''I think only Cowboys have archers''
It should have read: ''I think only Cowboys have farmers.''
are we gonna split resource gathering for wood, clay and iron? then move it around the alliance?
well, I think maybe if we want to start doing that, we'll need another place to put those posts? This one is pretty full... What do you guys think?
Someone invite me to alliance, name is Verifex in game.
Giving it a shot
Annihilus
81/189
this game like Ogame? or something..cause Ogame is fun
ppl are deleted from the list, still got 4 invites left after upgrade it will be more
Over-expanding on farms is very bad if you don't keep up with upgrades on your Granary x____x.
waiting for resources is boring lol... still trying to finish the tutorial where you need to build barracks and upgrade the main bldg 2 lvls. :(
Kong Ming
May 13 2008 2:56 AM EDT
I'm in as Kong Ming.
Kong Mings village (290 / 133)
someone CM me where i can see when my protection ends
8DEOTWP
May 13 2008 5:34 AM EDT
^ Settings, top thing I believe. ^
Daz
May 13 2008 5:34 AM EDT
Click setting up the top. It's the top thingy there.
It has it in their weird time, the same as the 'when will i have enough resources' thing. I can't figure out what time it means, because it isn't the server time... and I don't want to think too much about it.
8DEOTWP
May 13 2008 5:35 AM EDT
What does level 7 main building bring? Anyone know?
AoD sent me an invite to that alliance, In game name is HenkBres.
The time it displays seems to be GMT +1. Since the Terms and Conditions and whatever other things are in some Germanic language, I assume it is the server time, and that the server is located in Belgium, the Netherlands, or western Germany.
And, in case I used the wrong abbreviation, I meant the meridian of Greenwich standard time zone when I said "GMT."
IndependenZ
May 13 2008 7:13 AM EDT
You are right, Colonel Custard, it's GMT+1. The language you are seeing is in fact German, so I believe the servers are located somewhere in Germany. I am in the Netherlands, and AoD is in Belgium, heh so the times given are correct for us.
For everyone who is wondering, GMT+1 is 6 hours ahead of CB's server time (EST).
IndependenZ
May 13 2008 7:13 AM EDT
Sorry, make that EDT...
5 invites are send and 4 left
Levon (198, 126) is ready for an invitation... i won't build much for a little while to contribute some initial resources
i have an invitation already from "Amigos", but i'm guessing that's not one of our alliances?
I think that we should just concentrate on building up each other by contributing and sharing resources instead of making trades (unless profitable ones). Anybody agrees with me? Since everyone should have at least cover their own food resource, let's divide up the other resource!
I'll take wood! That means that I will concentrate on wood only and most probably build a sawmill as well..... Tomorrow onwards, I can provide aid of wood!
Taking a look at the other alliances (WOJ).... I think that they are already sharing resources and are fast building their soldiers n etc....
Please give your comments.....
Tezmac
May 13 2008 8:54 AM EDT
I don't know if this is a hijack or not, but I'm gonna ask anyway! I'm not through the tutorial yet, but I'm on the last step of needing to build my rampart and train 5 units. I'm putting this last step off in order to up my resources, perhaps mistakenly. I havent built a marketplace or a embassy yet either. My resources are currently at:
Farm: 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3
Wood: 2, 2, 1, 1
Iron: 2, 2, 2, 1
Clay: 2, 2, 2, 2
Am I behind? What is everyone else at?
all farms 3
Raw materials 2
Got myself a barracks, the alliance hut.
Currently building my army to 10 to complete that step of the tutorial.
QBRanger
May 13 2008 8:56 AM EDT
Your far ahead of me.
I am trying to take my main building to level 3 and even though I have the correct recourses, it fails to work.
Any ideas?
QBOddBird
May 13 2008 8:56 AM EDT
Tez - I'd grab those soldiers and finish the tutorial. The +25% to production will get you resources far faster than if you put it off.
Tezmac
May 13 2008 8:59 AM EDT
Yeah, but that +25% lasts for a week from whenever you finish right? Does that 25% apply to to whatever your resources are at the moment you finish, or is it some fixed amount? If its not fixed, Id rather wait until I up my resources more, thus my 25% yields more. Or am I mistaken?
QBOddBird
May 13 2008 9:02 AM EDT
Yes, but you can build your resources faster if you are getting 25% more.
You'll end up with more resources in the end if you finish the tutorial sooner than later.
AdminG Beee
May 13 2008 9:06 AM EDT
I believe server time is your own local time.
My server time is GMT and not GMT +1 for example.
You're all doomed if I should happen to release a beast from my lvl 75 dragon pit! muwahaha!
markxe
May 13 2008 9:14 AM EDT
do i have to but a hideout before i can have a rampart
AdminG Beee
May 13 2008 9:15 AM EDT
No need for a hideout until your protection ends.
Actually, I would disagree with OB about finishing the tutorial as fast as possible. I would've let all my resources hit max, and perhaps upped my Granary and Raw Material Storage once, THEN finished it, and then I would've had a huge boost in upping resource production - the premium trial account gives you another building queue slot.
"Your far ahead of me."
"I am trying to take my main building to level 3 and even though I have the correct recourses, it fails to work. "
Look at your food number. You can't build it if the number of food required is bigger then you can supply, it looks something like this: 24/30
Xenko
May 13 2008 9:29 AM EDT
I am just concentrating on building resources at the moment before I finish the tutorial. Right before my protection ends (tomorrow evening) I will finish the tutorial and build up some basic defense.
Currently I have:
Farms: 1 level 4, rest level 3
Wood: All level 3
Iron: Half level 3, half level 2
Clay:All level 3
QBRanger
May 13 2008 9:37 AM EDT
Henk,
I have enough food. I will try again in 1 hour.
QBRanger
May 13 2008 9:47 AM EDT
42/46 is my food number so I should be able to successful build.
Xenko
May 13 2008 10:08 AM EDT
You need to up your farms there Ranger. Your food production is really low at only +4 per hour.
Daz
May 13 2008 10:10 AM EDT
"I am just concentrating on building resources at the moment before I finish the tutorial. Right before my protection ends (tomorrow evening) I will finish the tutorial and build up some basic defense.
Currently I have:
Farms: 1 level 4, rest level 3
Wood: All level 3
Iron: Half level 3, half level 2
Clay:All level 3"
I really wish I had done this. You get the supportership for a week when you finish the tute. +25% resource income (Among other things). I'd have just sat there building up for ages if I knew.
QBRanger
May 13 2008 10:47 AM EDT
Has anyone gotten an activation e-mail?
I have not yet, and asked for it 4 times yesterday.
Should be gettin +36 each resource, +20 farm, before you rush for ending the tutor. You should try to get that over with as quick as possible all the same for the production boost and raids are a real must.
We should make a new thread as sending small amounts to those yet to finish the tutor will help us all.
Xenko
May 13 2008 11:30 AM EDT
What e-mail address Ranger? Hotmail doesn't seem to work with WG, but G-mail works fine.
markxe
May 13 2008 11:43 AM EDT
why cant i see rampart as one of my building options
IndependenZ
May 13 2008 11:44 AM EDT
It's already in your village, as lvl 0. Look to the lower corner, right side of the entry path. For cowboys and Mexicans it's right there, don't know for Indians.
QBRanger
May 13 2008 11:46 AM EDT
I have comcast.net.
I even looked at my spam folder and nothing.
Do you have to activate your account to continue? Otherwise I am hosed it seems.
QBOddBird
May 13 2008 11:47 AM EDT
I got mine activated using Gmail.
So far I haven't seen any reports that anyone's account stopped working due to not activating...
Yahoo mail worked for me, so between Yahoo and Gmail you should be able to get your account validated, Ranger.
QBRanger
May 13 2008 11:50 AM EDT
I used an old Gmail account to verify!!!
however I cannot change back to my real address.
Tezmac
May 13 2008 11:51 AM EDT
I have Comcast as well. I imagine youre checking via Outlook? I had to check it via the web so I could move it out of my spam box there and activate.
deifeln
May 13 2008 11:58 AM EDT
You can only change your email address once a month.
QBRanger
May 13 2008 11:59 AM EDT
I changed mine 2 times today.
QBRanger
May 13 2008 12:25 PM EDT
If anyone has spare resources, I can certainly use some.
I am at Ranger Roost (194 / 317).
deifeln
May 13 2008 2:45 PM EDT
We should try to shoot for everyone in the same alliance if possible within the next week or so.
so far there are 2 alliances delf, i think 2 are good cuz allies help each other
QBOddBird
May 13 2008 2:52 PM EDT
I think deifeln's right, we should try and get everyone into the same alliance
deifeln
May 13 2008 3:02 PM EDT
Agreed AoD, allies do help each other, but in this game it isn't possible to send resources to an ally if they are not in your 'formal, in game' alliance. As the week progresses, we need to disband your alliance ans shuffle people over to the larger one.
I have sent Bart 400 resources for the current alliance (he must build the embassy at a high cost of resources). I intend to send him more. If you are currently in the larger alliance, please send him more resources so that others may join.
I also think that once AoD's alliance is disbanded (and he himself has joined the larger group) we should send him some resources (slowly, as not to go over his limit) to pay for the expense he has put into his embassy.
sry to say but im planning on disbanding at all
QBOddBird
May 13 2008 3:23 PM EDT
That's fine, you can be the 2nd 1-man CB clan! :) After all, creating a second one was your choice, not something we all decided together or anything.
Xenko
May 13 2008 3:25 PM EDT
"sry to say but im planning on disbanding at all"
Is there a "not" missing in that sentence, or are you just using some weird grammar?
Bartman
May 13 2008 3:27 PM EDT
I agree that we need to expand my embassy as quickly as possible so we can add new members.
The faster I can expand, the faster we can build our alliance.
Here are the requirements for the next embassy level: (level 6)
Wood 620 | Clay 445 | Stone 515 | Wheat 275
If everyone sends 50-100 of whatever resources they can spare, I can build quicker. You need to have a market built before you can send resources.
Just so everyone knows, the resources are not received automatically as soon as they are sent. I've seen some resources take as long as 8 hours to get to me based on where the send is on the map in relation to my location. There are some slow wagons out there.
I am going to prioritize the invite list based on who sends resources.
Thanks all!!! :)
QBOddBird
May 13 2008 3:28 PM EDT
I have way too much stone, I'll send you some as soon as I can build a MP
just built a market place as soon as its up if i can figure out how to send you something i will, i want in on the alliance
Tezmac
May 13 2008 3:37 PM EDT
Same here, I sent you a CM...
Bartman
May 13 2008 3:59 PM EDT
Sounds good folks. I'm trying to respond to every message but let me know if i missed you.
If I go to Embassy>To Alliance>Options>Invitations, I see this message:
Invitations
No invitations to others are pending.
To invite further players into your alliance, you need to expand your embassy first!
Does that mean if we all made a lvl 3 embassy in the clan, we could up the amount of members we can take on?
As far as I know, the clan can only grow with the lvl of embassy of the owner of the clan.
deifeln
May 13 2008 4:35 PM EDT
All members of the clan must send Bart some resources (min 200 each) so he can continue to build the embassy and build necessary upgrades (such as resource storage upgrades).
Please check out the forum we have sent up in the embassy. (Click on the embassy and then "to alliance")
I have stupid amount of resources - 1k of wood and clay (typed caly the first time round) and 900 iron and 600 wheat (something I use to trade)
double post: invite me quickly, I will fund a whole level of embassy for you.
Sent 200 food because you have such a low grain production.
I should be raiding 'grays' ? ... The first time I raided a 3 score gray, I lost 4 out of my 5 farmers... Guess I need Infantry, but it costs an arm and a leg for the academy + research + the cost of the units.
at first I send like 3 archers = 1 die. now I have 21 archers. they all live and loot over 1k resource every 34 mins. about 250 of each.
Bartman
May 13 2008 5:56 PM EDT
PK do you have a market set up yet? If so, send me some resources to upgrade the embassy.
I should be able to invite you on the next upgrade.
I don't think I can send you resource because I am not in your alliance.
Bartman
May 13 2008 6:00 PM EDT
You can send resources to anyone if you have a market place. At least that's how I think it works.
Have you tried sending anything to me?
yup. but doesn't work (only have like 400 wood and some wheat left) - it actually says you can only send to your own villages and alliance member
Bartman
May 13 2008 6:04 PM EDT
No sweat, I'll add you in the next upgrade.
deifeln
May 13 2008 6:43 PM EDT
Bart, offer 1 iron for 400 wood in the market (nobody will take that :o) and let him send it to you that way.
deifeln
May 13 2008 6:45 PM EDT
oh well
Bartman
May 13 2008 6:46 PM EDT
LOL, Nice try though!
You have to upgrade the market to increase the ratios and it's not worth the resources to do it right now.
Please review the following thread regarding all things Wild Guns:
Click Here
please check the alliance forum when you are free.....
Bartman
May 13 2008 9:18 PM EDT
Got it, sent you a response......
Looks like I'll be able to upgrade the embassy to level 6 later this evening. That's 2 embassy upgrades in one day!!!
Keep the resources coming and we'll be the biggest, baddest alliance in WG!!!
Soxjr
May 13 2008 9:31 PM EDT
i sent 200 wood i think, but you are so far away from me that it takes like 4 hours or so to get there.. it will be there later tonight :)
Bartman
May 13 2008 9:57 PM EDT
Thanks, every little bit counts.
FYI, I purchased a bunch of nuggets so i can 1 for 1 trade the resources to whatever i need for the upgrade so send whatever you can and I'll make the adjustments.
Bartman
May 13 2008 10:00 PM EDT
I just checked the wagon status. It'll be at my place in 1 hour 45 minutes. I also checked resources and saw that I will be able to upgrade when it arrives.
Keep up the donations guys, it's working!!!
j'bob
May 13 2008 10:49 PM EDT
ok. i guess i'm ready to join the affiliation.
will ye have me?
i'm j'bob at 165 / 183 (Buddy Lee's Town of Action)
I've got so far
Wood 279 (+60) | Clay 365 (+67) | Rock 257 (+52) | Wheat 751 (+37)
It should increase a bit over night.
All 6 farms are level 3
Clay is 3x3, 1x2
Forest is 2x3, 2x2
Rock is 1x3, 3x2
I've got 7 Ponchos and just built my embassy
What now? eh, gringos? :D
Bartman
May 13 2008 10:59 PM EDT
I'll need to invite you to the alliance first. Just continue to work on building your resources and I'll add you as soon as I can.
I already have 3 invites for the next upgrade. You'll be on the upgrade after that.
SNK3R
May 14 2008 12:32 AM EDT
Man, this thread is bouncin'.
I wish I had enough time to take over the site with you guys.
Good luck! ;)
i still got room in my alliance if anyone want to join
Player Nam: LittleAnthony. Invite me, i don't know what to do yet.
Phrede
May 14 2008 2:53 AM EDT
Thats alright m8 - nor do I and I been playing for 6 days :)
IndependenZ
May 14 2008 3:23 AM EDT
Hey... about deifelns idea to get everybody in 1 alliance as soon as possible... Bartman said "I am going to prioritize the invite list based on who sends resources."
I'm in AoDs alliance, so I can't send resources to Bartman. What should we do? Or are we just last in line to join Carnage 1? Upgrading this alliance even more doesn't sound like a good idea now, so me and the other seven [CB2]-members are just upgrading their villages as much as we can.
By the way, I absolutely love the big hideout cowboys have. =)
Add me to the list to be included now that I've built up a little more
what i have to do when i am lack "resources" to expand? Wait?
AdminG Beee
May 14 2008 4:39 AM EDT
Yup. The numbers next to your resources show your refresh rate per hour. e.g. (+45)
Soxjr
May 14 2008 5:26 AM EDT
LA. that means that you dont' have enough extra wheat to expand. you need more wheat farms.
so far i've got:
all wood cutters at 2
all clay pits at 2
2 lvl 2 and 2 lvl 1 iron mines
5 lvl 2 farms and 1 lvl 4 farm
lvl 5 main building
a storage shed, hideout, barracks, silo, and academy all lvl 1
let me know if you need anything
edyit you might wanna start building some military.
Bartman
May 14 2008 8:04 AM EDT
edyit, what is your game name?
Added invites to:
Chuck1234
Painkiller
J'Bob
Looks like another upgrade sometime this afternoon.
Here are the resources I need for the next embassy upgrade:
Wood 790 | Clay 570 | Stone 660 | Wheat 350
Keep the resources coming and we'll be able to add more players.
got 4 invites left and im currently upgrading to lvl 6 so gone have more room in an hour
i'm getting a headache just from reading the activity going on... lol, you guys are already going to dominate, so i think we can all take a deep breath and slow down :)
don't worry about merging the alliances yet... just get everyone in one of the alliances, then we can decide how many alliances to maintain
i dont see the point in all getting in the same alliance, yes we cant transfer resources to everyone but 2 alliances in the top 3 will be bigger then only 1 on the nr 1 spot, i rather attack an alliance with 2 diffrent alliance then 1 alliance, its more a strategic move, that way they have split up and pick 1 alliance and the other alliance can raid all the way
j'bob
May 14 2008 9:49 AM EDT
I think AoD has a pretty good point. Maybe 2 separate but allied alliances is the way to go.
btw we can still send stuff to eachoter trough mp if bartman or i need resources we put in 1 wood clay iron or food in it and ask 200 of what we need, that way we can get the stuff we need
for everything there is an solution (exept me disbanding my alliance)
phrog
May 14 2008 12:50 PM EDT
Been spending a lot of time on MagicDuel.com. Came back here and saw this. I'll give it a try.
QBOddBird
May 14 2008 12:54 PM EDT
"i dont see the point in all getting in the same alliance, yes we cant transfer resources to everyone but 2 alliances in the top 3 will be bigger then only 1 on the nr 1 spot,"
OK, so explain again why it is better for us to be in 2nd and 3rd than to decisively own 1st?
j'bob
May 14 2008 1:11 PM EDT
ooty, why can't we take the gold and silver and leave the bronze for someone else! Raise that bar up a bit mister!
Phrede
May 14 2008 2:36 PM EDT
Using this as an opportunity to ask if any of our members want to have the title of diplomat. If we get attacked by another alliance before all out war (costly for both) we need to talk with that alliance and, depending on their size, perhaps agree upon a non-aggression treaty.
Any volunteers message bartman or myself and we will change your title. I would suggest G_Beee but I dont think the other alliance would understand his accent :).
I would be no good either as they would tell straight away that I'm drunk.
QBRanger
May 14 2008 2:43 PM EDT
I finally got an embassy and marketplace.
If anyone has spare resources, they would help a lot.
User name: Fortunatto.
Ranger Roost (194 / 317)
Thanks
Freed, I can help with that if no one else wants to step up... ^_^
Phrede
May 14 2008 2:56 PM EDT
Well thats one - I think we need another in a different timezone from Hakai - anyone from Europe wanna volunteer ?
Or even from Scotland :)
got the academy up today, building nothing from here out but soldiers and farms to feed them :)
has anyone discovered if upgrading the embassy allows new members for the alliance that you're a member of, or is it only useful if you're the owner of the alliance? i should just leave my embassy at level 1?
i never said 2 and 3th place, 1 should be first the other 1 should be second or thirth
upgrading to lvl 7 embassy, 10 places free atm
Ranger: Get into C1 and I'll send.
Levon: Leave as lvl1
To end this split decision. Since AoD has invested heavily into his alliance, his should be open to all WG. While C1 reminds CB only.
AdminG Beee
May 14 2008 6:36 PM EDT
Running for my life in Manchester Freed (no joke), no time for diplomacy...
Anyone been attacked yet? What do your armies look like?
Also, I've got my embassy up, finally~
QBOddBird
May 14 2008 9:08 PM EDT
I'm saying 2nd and 3rd because that's far ahead of the position we are in now. If we were to continue to split members between alliances, we simply end up with lower scores than the other clans - whereas if we had one alliance with as many members as we have, we'd easily take first.
Fact is, 1st and 2nd isn't even a possibility. 2nd and 3rd is a stretch. But #1 with one clan? Easily doable.
Bartman
May 14 2008 10:17 PM EDT
Level 7 embassy now.
Sent invites to
Edyit
Ranger
Daz
I've got about 10 more players that I know of who still need invites. If you haven't sent me a message,either CM or in WG, please do so and I will add your name to the list
Next level embassy will need the following resources:
Wood 1015 | Clay 730 | Stone 845 | Wheat 450
I've got good production on stone and clay but need wood and wheat.
Everyone has done a great job sending resources. We need to keep it up until everyone is in the alliance.
BooDiggens
May 14 2008 10:21 PM EDT
Just started the tutorial
Cosmos Canyon Bartz Town 15.05.08 08:28 4:08:46 250 Food
Damn. You're so far away...
@ OB - Fighting for #1 may be doable for now as we have ~45-50 members ready to join our alliance. But down the road, other alliances will be sending out invites to every player that's available. If we stay a CB only alliance we'll be at a large disadvantage as we have a largely limited number of players to ally with.
you want all members in 1 alliance, fine add all my former members, they all out of my alliance
QBRanger
May 15 2008 12:56 AM EDT
I am in the alliance.
Khardin
May 15 2008 2:26 AM EDT
I'm Khardin at 87/230.
I haven't built an embassy yet. Probably at the end of my premium acct/resource boost.
I finished the tutorial and am trying to up resources while I have the boost. Farmers suck for raiding but the whole self-feeding defense thing/double size hideout is alright. I need to get food and infantry I guess.
I'm trying Indians and Mexicans on server 3 and server 6 and also made an account on Travian com2, which is (apparently) where they copied the ideas from.
Hmmmmm... looks like there are lots of new players setting up their villages just a space away from mine...
I guess I'm going to have quite speedy, bountiful raids a week from now.
IndependenZ
May 15 2008 3:45 AM EDT
Well, AoD decided to kick us all out of his alliance...
so that means me (AKA Sergeant Bromsnor), ColonelCustard, HenkBres, Levon, LightningRaider, (CB1)DeFiAnT and someone who I can't seem to think of right now are looking to join Carnage 1. I just sent Bartman a message in-game.
My protection is going to run out tonight though, so I hope I'll be safe. :)
Soxjr
May 15 2008 5:13 AM EDT
I'm very uncertain here, but AoD there was no need to do that, people were just discussing it.. some people thought 2 allicances was a good idea and others didnt'. I don't think that should have meant for you to just kick people that obviously wanted to be there.. but oh well. since you already did it.
Phrede
May 15 2008 6:26 AM EDT
Multi alliances work very well - I dont see why AoD kicked you out though guys - we now more urgently than ever need to get the embassy upped. I am forgoing any training to try and send as much stuff to Bartman as possible.
The other alternative is to rejoin the other alliance as Sox said we were only discussing, AoD not requesting you disband. I am not sure what the limit per embassy is but I think if another village is formed by Bartman you could increase by upping the embassy there - what do others think ?
Bartman - make sure your 2 stores are big enough to cope with the extra materials you may be sent.
Tezmac
May 15 2008 7:38 AM EDT
Im 3 ponchos away from being done with the tutorial and then its embassy/raid time. If someone wants to bid on my 50 grain for 150 wood, thatd sure help me out :O)
Bartman
May 15 2008 7:48 AM EDT
Not sure why AoD did that either. I never mentioned anything either way about single or multi alliances. I've just been concentrating on building to get as many people in as possible.
Just upgraded the embassy and sent invites for the following:
ActionAction
ColonelCustard
HenkBres
To be fair to everyone, I'm going to do the invites based on the largest players first. This should do 2 things.
1) It'll encourage players to grow quickly
2) larger players can send more resources to help upgrade the embassy more quickly and allowing us to add more players to the alliance quicker.
Bartman
May 15 2008 7:56 AM EDT
Embassy is at level 8. Here are the resources needed for level 9:
Wood 1295 | Clay 935 | Stone 1080 | Wheat 575
Keep those resources coming! We need to add a bunch more players!
I will see what I can do.
sent 500 clay and 500 wheat.
I found this clan:
52 CrimsonTimson [C.B] Crimson Braves 89 1
is crimson braves related to us or is he a fair target. I say we declare war on him.
i shouldnt of done that? everyone said that there should be 1 alliance well exept bob and the ppl that were in my alliance, you all were saying AoD should disband when the embassy was high enough well to bad i done it before so be happy and hush
IndependenZ
May 15 2008 10:01 AM EDT
Hey I never said you should disband. You asked us what we would do if we were asked to join the other alliance. I replied that I'd go, because it seems a lot easier to me to get resource chains going, and there's less of a hassle when it comes to wars and such.
Nobody in your alliance said you should disband. I can't read back though, but I remember someone saying that if you were to disband, you would be given resources to compensate for your losses.
That's not the same as "Dismiss all your members." I'd hush if you weren't putting the blame on us, the people you just let down.
Draugluin
May 15 2008 10:04 AM EDT
He said "exept bob and the ppl that were in my alliance". He did notice the support from that side. Now, its been done. No need carry this any further.
IndependenZ
May 15 2008 10:12 AM EDT
Ooops, you're right Draugluin, I misread :S
I'm sorry AoD, I guess I jumped to conclusions too quickly. My apologies..
AdminG Beee
May 15 2008 12:09 PM EDT
How are we doing for troops ?
All well and good producing lots of materials but not good if we can't defend them. Personally I have only 3 base class defenders so I'm a pushover if attacked.
Bartman, what's your priority for raw materials? I've got a mill in place, should I now focus on other raw materials or defence.
Do we actively intend protecting what we've got - or taking what we want from others ?
Might be fun to be an offensive alliance in order to smash the opposition. We're all too nice too often on CB :)
Tezmac
May 15 2008 12:13 PM EDT
Suggestion for whoever owns the Google spreadsheet. Maybe add each member on their own line and assign x axis items for each production type, troop levels, etc. That way this kind of stuff is easy to track. Just a suggestion, I'm not even a member yet. :O)
Phrede
May 15 2008 12:17 PM EDT
To answer the troop question I did have 6 troops but they were all killed by 75 Indians - how does someone get that many so quickly I cant see how.
QBOddBird
May 15 2008 12:29 PM EDT
So far I have 15 troops is all, but if we decide to go on the offensive I can easily get more
Well my embassy is done... and soon I will start building Farmers so I will have some spare resources... Trying to build up more Resources before I leave protection anyways so I can quick build anything I may need
i'm out of protection today but i'm guessing i'm not one of the larger producers to warrant an invite yet? my resources should all be around level 3 soon, but i do have a decent hideout so i shouldn't lose many resources if attacked.... if that helps you determine priority
Tezmac
May 15 2008 1:27 PM EDT
So what has been the general strategy coming out of the tutorial? Its been mentioned (and what I did) to up all of your resources to +2 and all your farms to +3.
What after that?
Obviously an embassy right? My thought was to create an additional 8 Ponchos (plus the 5 from the tutorial) to raid other inactive, unguarded (3 point) villages. What did you guys that are further along do.
PS, I've still got 3 days of protection.
Freed, the indian attackers are really cheap, I have 20 and planning on 50, but the prime attackers of indians don't defend, I have to build special troops for defending. So most indian villages are wide open for attack.
And Im constantly attacking those grey villages in my surroundings, gathering lots of resources :)
Ow and thanks for the invite.
AdminG Beee
May 15 2008 1:33 PM EDT
If you're going raiding then I'd think perhaps upgrading your main building to lvl 5 and adding an academy in order to train different style troops may be a good idea.
I went raiding with Poncho's and lost more resources (dead Poncho's) than I gained from my targets.
Indians got attack bonus :) Those archers have 45 attack power :)
Tez: I've been raiding like mad. I'd raid the nearest villages possible while I was on, and then further ones if I knew I was going to be gone for hours (so as not to empty out the easy, closer targets unnecessarily). Raiding with about 20 archers or so is an excellent way to get resources. I do not know about ponchos, though.
Also, I've been upping my resources differently than others seem to have been. I do not up all my farms to level 3, then all to level 4. Rather, I up my highest one if possible, because one farm going from level 4 to 5 raises production by 11, while 3 to 4 only raises it by 8, or something. And, once you have a level 5 farm, you can get a mill, and it would take forever to get 7 farms to level 5 in order to get that going. Same with the brickworks, etc, which require a level 10 resource.
QBRanger
May 15 2008 3:07 PM EDT
I noticed something today.
When I started, I had 0 grey towns around me. Now when I checked there are 7.
I guess the program makes some towns just pop up out of nowwhere, great for the game though.
AdminG Beee
May 15 2008 3:09 PM EDT
The grey towns are locations created by users and then abandoned. i.e. not logged in for a few days.
those grey places are people that arent under the protection anymore little beee dude
Tezmac
May 15 2008 3:59 PM EDT
No, G_Beee is correct, they're bandit towns.
then take a look at the pink and the grey, grey isnt under protection and the pink are
Tezmac
May 15 2008 4:14 PM EDT
*sigh*
One of the mods over there answers the question 7 posts down.
Linky
Has anyone figured out how in the hell the score works? ... Is it even needed? Is it like a power rating or what?
Tezmac
May 15 2008 7:00 PM EDT
Its your food consumption minus troops built from what I understand. So I guess its kinda like a PR :O)
food consumption - troops = food consumption from building, right?
That's kind of retarded... A farmer counts the same as a soldier? ... Right. I should just make like 5000500500 farmers. They have pretty good defense. We'll have the top score in no time.
Bartman
May 15 2008 8:44 PM EDT
Just upgraded the embassy again.
Sent invites to:
LightningRaider
Sergeant Bromsnor
Linguala
Here are the resources required for the next upgrade: (level 10)
Wood 1660 | Clay 1200 | Stone 1385 | Food 740
I had to increase my storage for raw materials to level 3 to accommodate the increased materials requirement.
Keep the resources coming! :) I see a wagon on the horizon, headed to my fort to help upgrade the embassy and increase our alliance!
Bartman
May 15 2008 8:47 PM EDT
Just checked the top scores. Our alliance will take over the top spot when the next three players join the alliance!!
Great job everyone!!
Xenko
May 15 2008 8:55 PM EDT
"That's kind of retarded... A farmer counts the same as a soldier? ... Right. I should just make like 5000500500 farmers. They have pretty good defense. We'll have the top score in no time."
That would not increase your score at all. Score is based on food consumption by your buildings/mines. Farmers, soldiers, units do not contribute to score. Units will contribute to offensive/defensive score, but once again farmers do not contribute to either, despite the fact that they do provide defense.
Pheather
May 15 2008 9:00 PM EDT
I currently have 77 score. Do I need an embassy to join this alliance?
How is everyone's score so high?
Tezmac
May 15 2008 9:03 PM EDT
I think they all have a couple days head start on us. That, and once you get through the tutorial, you have a bonus for a week, which lets you build faster.
Bartman
May 15 2008 9:14 PM EDT
Rocket, yes you need an embassy.
I'll add you to the list.
Added wood/clay/iron/grain production columns to the spreadsheet.
Also, anyone and everyone is able to edit the spreadsheet now. If you want, put your own production rates in. I trust that it won't be sabotaged.
Timberwolf
May 15 2008 10:05 PM EDT
I am Darmichar at 192, 281.
Just started tonight so it may be a while before I can provide any assistance.
Draugluin
May 15 2008 10:34 PM EDT
I'm producing a single less clay and food than I should be. Anyone else seeing production discrepancies?
lostling
May 15 2008 10:49 PM EDT
lol 400+ posts.... and i still aint playing this game =x
QBOddBird
May 15 2008 10:58 PM EDT
Anyone else having a problem raiding? I'm getting a server error.
CB2 and WG both with errors, how frustrating! -.-
Soxjr
May 15 2008 11:28 PM EDT
i think the errors are just you. I am doing fine! :)
QBOddBird
May 15 2008 11:37 PM EDT
Yeah, it has resolved itself by now, just for like...10 minutes there I was getting annoyed with the server errors.
Some of you are really lucky if you have bandit towns right next to you. Closest one to me is a 30 minute travel time one way!
Lochnivar
May 16 2008 12:18 AM EDT
do the different defense ratings of the races impact raids on NPCs?
I don't think it does, you just have to have enough Offense to do anything else you get bounced.
Dang sorry for double post.
Only if the NPC has built up Ramparts or Troops.
Otherwise no.
there are bandits all around me, but I don't have any offensive troops and not enough resources to learn soldiers...
Hey Bartman:
Please don't forget me for the alliance.
Thanks!!
Bartman
May 16 2008 7:56 AM EDT
No worries, I've got you on the list.
chuck1234
May 16 2008 8:15 AM EDT
here's a CB2/wildguns interaction first: missed a botcheck coz i clicked on cb2 n switched onto wildguns n got stuck there, lotsa minutes l84 returned to cb2 to find i'm lockd out for an hour lol; first time its happened, tho i m sure its not the last ;)
Bartman
May 16 2008 5:10 PM EDT
OK, bit of trivia for you. Who has the longest wagon train sending resources to me for the embassy upgrades?
I'll give you a clue. If your delay time is less than 10 hours, it's not you.
Guesses anyone?
BluBBen
May 16 2008 5:12 PM EDT
Hey bartman, any way for me to send you resources to build your embassy even though I'm not in the alliance yet?
Bartman
May 16 2008 5:47 PM EDT
Nope! But you CAN join the alliance and send resources! I just sent you an invite. :)
Bartman
May 16 2008 5:50 PM EDT
Just upgraded the embassy again.
Sent invites to the following:
BluBBen
Xenko
AngelOfDeath
Here are the resources needed for the next embassy upgrade: (level 11)
Wood 2125 | Clay 1535 | Stone 1770 | Food 945
Keep the resources coming! I've still got 15 more players we need to add to the alliance!
BluBBen
May 16 2008 5:51 PM EDT
Wow, thanks! =D
Do you need any food? I'm a little low on the other resources :-\
Bartman
May 16 2008 6:13 PM EDT
Send what you can, every little but helps!
Check the alliance forums when you get the chance. the attacks thread is pretty busy.
Bartman please send me an alliance invite.
this game is just like tribal wars we should form an alliance there as well
Played Tribal Wars and quit after my 4th takeover. Not going back ty.
Daz
May 17 2008 1:21 AM EDT
Bart. I just sent you everything I had sitting around before going out. Hope it helps.
AdminG Beee
May 17 2008 4:04 AM EDT
Bartman, you live on the dark side of the moon.
I need to get my guy one of those "Jet-Man" wing sets...
anyone else who is a cowboy want to tell me how i can train anything besides farmers? i have a lvl2 barracks and a lvl3 academy and it wont give me the option to train anything but farmers
AdminG Beee
May 17 2008 6:26 AM EDT
You'll need to research them at the academy if it's anything like Mexicans. Also, you may find you need your academy level increased to lvl 5 before you can train others...
Need to research in academy, not just upgrade academy
thanks i'll try that now :-)
Bartman
May 17 2008 12:48 PM EDT
Just upgraded the embassy again!
Sent invites to:
Rocket
Levon
wrathless
Here are the resources needed for the next embassy upgrade: (level 12):
Wood 2720 | Clay 1965 | Stone 2265 | Food 1210
As you can see, the resource requirements continue to climb. Keep the resources coming!!
I finally took the time to map all the resources than have been sent. Congrats go out to the top 5 contributors:
Name____Total resources donated
Painkiller - 2600
Hakai - 2000
Spydah - 1600
J'Bob - 1400
SittingBullet - 1300
I've got another list of 10 alliance members who have not donated anything to assist our cause. I'm hesitant to send out the list but I encourage everyone to send what they can to help out.
Some players have only donated 100-400 in resources. That's OK because I know all are trying to build resources as well and they gave what they could afford. Even small donations add up quickly if everyone is helping out.
I also know resources have been sent to assist other to build defenses against attacks and raids. We need to keep this up as well if we are truly going ot dominate this game.
I don't want to sound like a televangelist but..... give til it hurts!!! LOL
Thanks again for everyones support! :)
AdminG Beee
May 17 2008 2:52 PM EDT
The "Warriorz Of Justice" alliance seems to have a higher percentage of players who are stronger than us.
We're in trouble if they decide to pay us a little visit.
ive sent 500 wood and clay, can't spare any food or iron at the moment. Research is expensive on the iron :(
I've finally started raiding and will be donating more soon.
IndependenZ
May 17 2008 3:08 PM EDT
Same here, I just figured out how to get other units than farmers (just like edyit), been saving up resources to get the research done. Tomorrow I'll be able to build some units and I'll go raid, which in turn will get me resources to donate.
Found just out that 14 first Top Players are all Indians.
Hey, I'm a cowboy and closing those ranks up. Just 3 days ago wasn't in the top 100. And don't fret it too much. Mexican troops are expensive, and Cowboys will eventually catch up to the Indians.
QBOddBird
May 17 2008 4:18 PM EDT
At least one of those guys up top will get totally PWNed later anyways, as I am saving up troops to make a big hit.
AdminG Beee
May 17 2008 5:06 PM EDT
I'm pretty sure I'm not alone at having missed the significance of the benefits gained by using nuggets.
If you can afford to purchase them then I'd recommend you do so and take advantage of the 1:1 merchant and immediate updates. It really does speed things along.
Thanks for taking the time out to explain that to me Hakai. It eventually got through... :)
QBRanger
May 17 2008 6:47 PM EDT
700 620 1480 580 for training rifleman. Just the research.
Has anyone researched them? That is a ton of resources just to be able to make a defensive unit. Is it worth it, or should I upgarde to get the ability to research better unit and stay with archers for now?
QBOddBird
May 17 2008 6:52 PM EDT
Personally, I've just been upgrading my Rampart and hideyhole for defensive measures.
I'm far more interested in getting blunderbusses and fire arrows.
QBRanger
May 17 2008 7:08 PM EDT
I sort of thought that OB. I do like Mounted Archers also. Level 5 Academy needed.
wow? Cowboys have to have a Level 5 Academy just to get Soldiers! Who have good Attack/Defense/Carry numbers.
It's all I'm training now, up to about 25 of them. The 12 farmers stay home, since their carry is useless.
And Soldiers is good enough for now and a while to go. So I'm just building up my Resource pits and attacking.
Mikel, soldiers can be trained at lvl1 academy...
However, cowboys need lvl5 academy to research cowboys.
Additionally, lvl5 barracks is needed to "unlock" stables.
Kong Ming
May 17 2008 9:38 PM EDT
Finally finished tutorial and have setup the marketplace. Going to setup the embassy and send some resources when I come on next time. Where should the resources go to?
uhm I don't plan to use cowboys as one of my troopers. I was simply referring to the race. But thanks :)
Xenko
May 18 2008 1:00 AM EDT
Resources incoming... in about 3 hours or so. :P
IndependenZ
May 18 2008 4:33 AM EDT
570 clay, 200 iron and 200 food coming your way Bart. And it only takes about 90 minutes, yay! :P
WoJ is upping its entrance requirements in order to keep up with us :P. I doubt we're going to remain in close contention for a very long period of time, as they're drawing from all of S4 :(.
But hey, we have the bonus of all knowing each other :).
BluBBen
May 18 2008 7:18 AM EDT
I have sent 200 iron and 200 food. Keep upping that embassy! =D
I realised a moment ago a thing that scared me. The cowboys will eventualy rule everything. :-\ Their sniper are the by far best attacker compared to food usage. It will own everything.
Yeah but I suspect the sniper will be very expensive to research and to build.
By then more the Indians have more then plenty of smaller, cheaper attackers.
What they can't do by power they can do by numbers :P
Ow and there defense isn't that good.
the sniper unit isn't that hard to research or to train. it only costs about 1.5 times a soldier and is a more effective attacker. against Indians if a cowboy has an upgraded rampart and a decent number of farmers with defense upgrades then they can basically take on any other unit and if not win inflict massive losses.
BluBBen
May 18 2008 7:53 AM EDT
Yeah the indians can compensate with numbers. But the food usage will be a huge problem for the indians, the cowboys will have almost double the attack power with the same food usage. That's what will tip the favour to the cowboys.
Got this from a non-alliance guy, won't say who. Much praise onto him. :) Hopefully none from them will see this then feel betrayed as I respected Rexor, Bardogan, and the one who relayed this message to me, the most in WoJ.
Well... We are going to make a new alliance today, because we all thought chrisgala was a bad leader and to childish... so today we will have a new alliance so I ask you if you want to join us then... because then you are choosing right side... but you do what you want to do... but if you want to join our new alliance so message me and I<Rexor> or Bardogan will invite you...
Bartman
May 18 2008 11:50 AM EDT
I'm getting close to another upgrade but still need some help to make it happen today.
Thanks to all who have been donating regularly to the alliance. Hopefully , a few more upgrade will allow all our members into the alliance.
I've had a request from one of the top players in another alliance ask to join ours. Seems theirs is not working together and their leader may be inactive. Its the United Nations clan.
Funny how both other clans in the top 3 are having problems....
Glad ours is active and working together.
BluBBen
May 18 2008 11:51 AM EDT
So... will you join them? Or maybe we can ally with new alliance?
Kong Ming
May 18 2008 12:00 PM EDT
I can't send any resources because I'm not in the alliance yet. Can Bartman send an invitation? I can spare quite a bit of resources, probably 500 of each.
800 Iron coming in about 5 hours.
Not leaving and hate you for asking!
Should make ally with them.
Kong Ming
May 18 2008 12:27 PM EDT
Apparently I can't send any resources is because my merchant is still not back in the village. It will be back in another 9 hours or so... Will send some resources when it comes back (hopefully there will still be resources ;)
Tezmac
May 18 2008 12:47 PM EDT
Yeah, I've got a grip of food I could send as well, but I'm not a member either. Building up a small force and raiding pays huge dividends and really speeds up the ol village growth!
Daz
May 18 2008 12:56 PM EDT
Sent more, Barty.
QBRanger
May 18 2008 2:19 PM EDT
I think I will quit as there is no nub to let me catch up to all the players that started before me. That is grossly unfair as I have no way to beat them, like new players here can surpass me. Time and effort should mean nothing in every game just like in CB! j/k of course. but the gist of the post still stands.
chuck1234
May 18 2008 2:35 PM EDT
Ranger, you can buy nuggets; since most of the others don't purchase them, you'll be with a virtual NUB for as long as you keep paying....
A message/request from Rexoz:
chrisgala is not a good leader... happy do your alliance want to be allied with our...?
He would like to ally his alliance with us. What say you people?
QBRanger
May 18 2008 3:03 PM EDT
We are a CB alliance.
CB2 will take over. We need no help!!
That is my opinion.
AdminG Beee
May 18 2008 3:43 PM EDT
Of course he wants to ally with us. Who wouldn't?
For me we should stay as a CB only alliance for the time being because it suits us today. I'm also happy to be passive for the meantime.
btw, I'm conscious of the fact that my contribution to the alliance (i.e. Bartman) has been only about 400 or so raw materials with many people having contributed much more.
I'd be happy to try and "formalise" the contribution based on score. We need to get our waiting list down to zero.
Also, any of our members not wanting to keep playing, please let Bartman know so that he can remove you (no need to keep the dead wood), but also so that we can raid you for your materials if you haven't gotten as far as a market place yet. Obviously if you have a market please send your material to Bartman.
IndependenZ
May 18 2008 3:47 PM EDT
They just want to keep us at bay, they're afraid. If you can't beat them, join 'm.
I'd say just let them be afraid, if we don't ally with them, we won't lose the right to attack them :P
Phrede
May 18 2008 4:14 PM EDT
Eventually we will have to ally with someone as other alliances will ally (again this happened in Travian) we can only grow so big as we have a limited number of members (50 or so ?).
Not saying we have to do it now but dont discount alliances with other non CB groups - or even a non-agression treaty.
BluBBen
May 18 2008 4:15 PM EDT
I feel that we don't need to ally him. Instead signing a NAP (non aggression pact) would be a much better idea. If they breaks the NAP without a war declaration of any sort people will know they can't be trusted (one alliance on Travian could have won the game if they haden't broke a NAP), and those guys know that.
So no, not a alliance, but a NAP. Just to be sure they don't attack us. Because if they attack us we will have to attack them back. And now in the beginning we don't want a war, we want to grow! Later on when we can take over villages SURE, a war is just what we want. But only because it will help us grow faster. For now, peace is the way to go, but binding us with them with a ally is just stupid.
^many words without really meaning anything, I just wrote what was in my head^
Ranger, train some troops and start raiding bandits, you'll grow fast as heck.
I got super lucky now, the town right next to me has become a bandit, woo hoo, 10 minute raids!
Once you get some troops going, you'll fly up the charts.
Killerz Of Revenge? Ugh, that's nasty. If they had taste I'd push ally.
NAP wouldn't make such impact as in Travian. No one on WG cares. Their name doesn't offer trust. Best dealings would be allied war with WoJ, which may be pointless for a month.
AdminG Beee
May 18 2008 5:18 PM EDT
It costs me 2,580 resources just to research a Mexican that I can use for offense at the academy, plus another 580 to actually create one. That's a heck of a lot of resources required to put together a suitable squad of Mariachi to raid the greys.
I intend to carry on pumping my raw material production unless someone else out there has a wonderful strat for Mexicans that I've missed.
Soxjr
May 18 2008 5:23 PM EDT
bee if the mexican is anything like the cowboys, then yeah. you have to find a unit that has a better attack. then save and research then slowly build up your base of units to attack. I had to do the same thing and now I have 12 farmers that stay in my village getting extra resources and 30 of the soldiers that actually raid. I am finally doing well. It just took a long time to get here.
Phrede
May 18 2008 5:51 PM EDT
I am the same as G_Beee I have no army atm. Just trying to get the levels of my camp up.
Mexicans can train up about 15-20 ponchos and raid the bandit's with those. I have a Mexican on server 2. Once I got some ponchos, My growth really shot up, but I agree, their units are the most expensive.
Soxjr
May 18 2008 6:08 PM EDT
ok. can you play on another server with the same e-mail or do i have to use a different e-mail?
Bartman
May 18 2008 7:26 PM EDT
Just upgraded the embassy again!
Sent invite to:
Stingiestbard
xclip
icydragon
Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade (Level 13:
Wood 3480 | Clay 2515 | Stone 2900 | Food 1545
The resources have picked up. I thank everyone for their efforts!! Keep it up and we'll have everyone in the alliance in less than a week!
PotatoHead
May 18 2008 7:36 PM EDT
I am playing on server 4 PotatoHead is me name there as well. Co-or: Purgatory (299 / 239)
I will send 250 of each resource each day, should hopefully help to increase our embassy level a little quicker.
Bartman
May 18 2008 8:23 PM EDT
Every bit definitely helps. With the number of folks we have in the alliance now, there's no reason it should take longer than a day to upgrade.
question: how do i start to make troop? how to send raw materials?
to make troops, you need barracks. To send materials, you need a market.
150 of each resource sent. 5 hour travel time.
lol the town next door to me is the leader of some mexican alliance
j'bob
May 18 2008 9:04 PM EDT
Sigh. I tried to add myself but it apparently didn't take quite right. On the plus side, I don't think I messed anything up! :)
I'm at 165 / 183
and my resource production is currently at;
Wood (+108) | Clay (+94) | Iron (+84) | Food (+53)
Xenko
May 18 2008 9:15 PM EDT
Fixed formatting j'bob.
How many more levels on the embassy do we need Bart?
Just sent 250 each of wood, iron and clay. About 4 hours until it arrives.
finally completed the tutorial! woohoo! lol hopefully noone would attack me when i get out of protection..
now to build an embassy and a marketplace...
Kong Ming
May 18 2008 10:39 PM EDT
I tried sending resources but was not able to do so. How should it be done? I've got 2 merchants free and a marketplace as well but nothing happened when I clicked ok for sending resources to Bartman.
Tezmac
May 18 2008 10:41 PM EDT
Yeah, 15 ponchos will work wonderfully for raids. I've shot up about 500 places in the rankings today :O)
Bartman
May 18 2008 11:14 PM EDT
Kong, you can't send resources until you are in the alliance. Just build your resources until I can get you in. The higher your score the better your resources.
Bartman
May 18 2008 11:16 PM EDT
Looks like at least 4 more. 4 will get the current list but I just added Kong Ming and {CB1}[umk]Fangs so that will be 5 more levels.
I just sent 150 more of each.
can i double check with everybody......which is better upgrading all the resource lvl by lvl or just concentrate on 1......ie.... 3 lvl 3 clay pits and 1 lvl 5 clay pits and just keep on upgrading the higher lvl pit.....or just upgrade all evenly?
Draugluin
May 19 2008 12:55 AM EDT
By the resources spent and the production numbers, I'd say even is the way to go. However, it also seems that the production numbers may not be what they seem, so I'd hold the judgement.
QBOddBird
May 19 2008 1:09 AM EDT
to start out with you need more clay than anything else, but it levels out a bit more later when you are building a greater variety of structures.
On a side note, Carnage 1 Alliance is now the #1 alliance by well over 500 score!! WEWT
...and I have 50 archers, halfway towards my army goal before building firebombers!
Xenko
May 19 2008 2:15 AM EDT
I think upgrading all equally is better. As you get higher, it gets more expensive, and you waste a lot of time waiting to upgrade 1 level, when you could upgrade the others and earn much more resources.
Kong Ming
May 19 2008 3:24 AM EDT
Will sending more troops for raiding reduce the chances of losing units? I send 6 yesterday and lost one unit during the raid.
Soxjr
May 19 2008 3:40 AM EDT
yes kong. i definately send more troops and lower the likely hood of losing any. I still lose 1 every now and then and I'm sending 30 soldiers now.
Do you target only bandits size 3 towns or all bandits whatever the size, Sox?
i would like to join, but how do i butt it out, do i skrew up the forums or sumthin?
oh wait, i see. i just started and goin great
chuck1234
May 19 2008 4:30 AM EDT
hey folks, have any of you ever tried out the combat simulator?
Not to interrupt the flow of raid talk, but what's everyone's resources look like? Have you bought the 5%/upgrade resource buildings yet?
Also, does anyone know how one would calculate the maximum amount of resources one could send using "Send raw materials"?
and what building might that be?
Daz
May 19 2008 6:16 AM EDT
Getting attacked. Sent Bart all of my stuff instead of losing it completely.
build a hide out, then they cant steal your stuff
Daz
May 19 2008 6:59 AM EDT
I have one, It was just an excuse to send that stuff over...
AA, I have a mill at lvl 2 right now, and the increase wasn't that noticible, to be honest. Though, as we all know, the food rate constantly decreases, so.... I'm sure the other buildings will show more of an impact on the number increases. I have not yet gotten any of the other 5% increase buildings. My farms are not that high yet. At the moment, my farm levels are at the following:
Wood Farms: 1 lvl 6, 1 lvl 4, 2 lvl 3
Iron: 1 lvl 4, 3 lvl 3
Clay: 1 lvl 7, 1 lvl 5, 2 lvl 4
Food: 1 lvl 7, 1 lvl 5, 4 lvl 4
That brings my total to:
Holz 1013 (+127) | Clay 1915 (+188) | Iron 648 (+84) | Food 1460 (+30) Food consumption 235/265 Zustimmung 100%
I am pleased, however to say, this morning I just finished making my cannon foundry and last night I researched my fire fiends, so I am ready to start training some.
How many does everyone think I need?
Also, in regards to your question about max resources, AA, I am pretty sure 1 merchant can carry up to 1000 resources. However, please do not quote me on that ^_^.
(takes a breath)
Daz
May 19 2008 10:54 AM EDT
The guy has now attacked me 3 times. The resources he has gained? 0, 0, 0, 0. He killed 10 whole archers, which is fine, because it put my food production up...
Daz, who is attacking you? We'll demolish him...I'll break his stupid ramparts with my fire fiends...
We need to make a retaliation list...
QBOddBird
May 19 2008 11:00 AM EDT
Yeah, tell us who to hit, I've got 50 archers just waiting...
j'bob
May 19 2008 11:04 AM EDT
Aside from the food, what causes the production number on the other stuff to go down?
I've noticed that Indians need a lot of wood to produce units.
QBOddBird
May 19 2008 11:09 AM EDT
j'bob - premium account running out, probably.
j'bob
May 19 2008 11:10 AM EDT
ahhh the end of the bonus, thats right, thanks ob!
markxe
May 19 2008 12:07 PM EDT
say if your attacking someone we can poss arange to arrive at the same time do a joint attack
Blarg
May 19 2008 1:08 PM EDT
i'm playing, blarg, 159/102
Daz
May 19 2008 1:17 PM EDT
Player: Wenca
Village: Inchuchuna main 139|244
I'm not really concerned. He didn't get anything...
The battle log thing is a little bit confusing:
Raid on Wenca by No mans land (139|241)
Wenca attacks No mans land (139|241)
Raid on Wenca by No mans land (139|241)
Entries One and Three look like *I* attacked *them*, but then when I go into the report, I'm the defender. They might need to fix that?
Bartman
May 19 2008 1:34 PM EDT
What did he attack with and what were his losses? He's very close to me and I can go after him.
Draugluin
May 19 2008 1:37 PM EDT
Finally got my embassy up. Tutorial isn't done yet, hoping to get a buttload of production more first. Could I be on that list then, Bartman? (+75)(+75)(+59)(+51) when the embassy finishes construction
Bartman
May 19 2008 1:37 PM EDT
Just upgraded the embassy again (level 13):
Sent invites to:
(CB1) DeFiAnT
Aeris
Hzarb
Mastodont (
Not sure why I got 4 invites but I'll check it against the next upgrade.
Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade: (Level 14):
Wood 4455 | Clay 3220 | Stone 3715 | Food 1980
Thanks to all who are donating resources. The numbers we have now are definitely helping to keep the upgrades consistent.
Just sent 100 of each resource.
Phrede
May 19 2008 5:17 PM EDT
you had one left from the previous level :)
Bartman
May 19 2008 5:39 PM EDT
LOL, I'm hoping that it's because I get 4 invites per level past a certain point. The next upgrade will let us know for sure.
Bartman
May 19 2008 5:48 PM EDT
Anyone have an idea who Nerdrage is? He posted a message in the forum Spydah set up on his server for WG. Can't find him in either CB or WG.
AdminG Beee
May 19 2008 6:12 PM EDT
where is spydah's forum so we can continue there instead posting here?
Bartman
May 19 2008 7:00 PM EDT
Oops! My bad! LOL, Still would like to know who this guy is though!
Bartman
May 19 2008 7:02 PM EDT
I found him. His WG name is:
Nerdrage (CB ROCKS)
Sent him a CM asking what his CB name is.
8DEOTWP
May 19 2008 7:23 PM EDT
OB, 6white9 sent 30 ponchos to me and I killed all but 2 with 5 farmers, 10 soldiers, and 10 snipers. Lost a farmer and soldier with level 3 rampart. Watch out when sending large groups of basic units.
Bartman
May 19 2008 7:25 PM EDT
Thanks Lameness, Not sure why his name wasn't coming up.
Let me know when you can add me : LittleAnthonys village (251 / 159)
Daz
May 19 2008 8:09 PM EDT
He had 30 ish archers in each attack.
Xenko
May 19 2008 8:24 PM EDT
Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but is it just me or is it odd that Nerdrage just signed up for CB... spy perhaps?
I currently still have the bonus production. Should I increase my troops first or raise my raw material production?
I currently have:
farm - lvl 3x6 (+32)
woodcutter - lvl 3x2, lvl 2x2 (+60)
clay pit - lvl 3x3, lvl 2x1 (+67)
iron mine - lvl 3x2, lvl 2x2 (+60)
QBOddBird
May 19 2008 11:49 PM EDT
Heh, Xenko, I don't care if he signed up as a spy or not - if it is bringing new players to the game, it is a good thing
Xenko
May 20 2008 12:12 AM EDT
*puts on his Aluminum foil hat*
They won't control me... I won't let them!
Fangs, raise production first.
I'm going to be training Snipers real soon, and just built my stables, then I can research Trappers (spies).
FuriousHobo
May 20 2008 12:43 AM EDT
Boo_Bears village (295 / 158)
i dont even know how to play. any tips? like how do i get an alliance? :)))
Draugluin
May 20 2008 12:51 AM EDT
To join an alliance, you must have a level 1 embassy at least, and have the alliance leader of the alliance to send you an invitation. You kind of need clay more than anything else at the start, and grain always has to be balanced against the other resources.
QBRanger
May 20 2008 8:47 AM EDT
Is there any way to give troops to an ally?
Ranger, you could always elect a leader for your village that promises to help allying nations, but he would likely in turn attempt to dupe the whole world into fighting his daddy's war...
IndependenZ
May 20 2008 10:04 AM EDT
If you click on the village of an ally on the world map, you can click "send troops" and then select the type "back up". I have no idea how long the troops are going to stay there and how it works with food consumption though.
normally the troops stay there forever or till they die
j'bob
May 20 2008 10:29 AM EDT
"normally the troops stay there forever or till they die "
and then they go to your town? :D
To answer someone's question from earlier, I have gotten the first 5% boost building, which is the Mill. I've upgraded it to level 4, so it gives me 20% extra food production. I would say it is extremely beneficial, although it costs quite a bit of food to build and to upgrade (it basically requires me to up my grain storage capacity in my granary every time just so I can hold enough grain before the upgrade).
However, my food consumption is at 200/241 right now. Counting just my farms, I have 2 level 6s, one level 5, and 3 level 4s, which comes out to 201 grain production. This means that I'm getting 40 extra grain production per hour thanks to my mill.
From an economic point of view, I think I've still spent more grain on mill upgrades than I've gained from the increased production, but short-term loss is the first step in a good investment. And yesterday I was at -8 grain per hour, so the mill upgrade has done me good.
Blarg
May 20 2008 12:44 PM EDT
I'm building my embassy now and just finished the tutorial, wew
markxe
May 20 2008 1:58 PM EDT
anyone using cowboys are they worth it
Bartman
May 20 2008 2:42 PM EDT
I'm using Cowboys. The top scores show that Indians are the best for quick growth but we'll have to see what the long term growth is for the others.
My char is the second highest cowboy in the top 50 but my growth has been stunted by concentrating on embassy upgrades. Once we have everyone in the alliance, we'll see how fast, or slow, I can climb the ranks. I was consistently in the top 3 before I started the alliance.
My first sent attack! Raids aren't the only way. Learn from it. :) Still haven't been attacked myself.
66 Archers, 1 lost. He lost all 4 Ponchos. Luck: 2.3%
Wood 836 Clay 836 Iron 836 Food 1067 3575 / 3575
AdminG Beee
May 20 2008 4:49 PM EDT
Where was he on the food chain, what was his score?
Doesn't matter. Add lvl1 Rampart to him.
Next target. Rampart lvl4, lost all 5 Ponchos.
65 Archers, lost 4, luck 7.1%.
Wood 844 Clay 822 Iron 844 Food 844 3354 / 3355
Bartman
May 20 2008 5:42 PM EDT
Cool! Nice work Gun! :)
Bartman
May 20 2008 5:49 PM EDT
Just upgraded the Embassy again (Level 13):
Sent invites to:
Aeris (resend)
Tezmac
khardin
DrAcO5676
Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade: (level 14)
Wood 5705 | Clay 4120 | Stone 4755 | Food 2535
I'm going to have to upgrade my storage for raw materials to hold onto enough wood to make the upgrade.
The resources were a little scarce this morning and i was wondering if we were going to make this one today. A large number of wagons came in all within about an hours time to provide the remaining resources.
Great work everyone! Keep it up! Looks like 3 more upgrades will have everyone in the alliance!
QBRanger
May 20 2008 6:06 PM EDT
Wow,
To get +1 attack on Rifleman I need to invest:
Attack (1) +1 -/- -/- -/- -/- 6137 5436 12976 5085 -/- 15:45:00
QBOddBird
May 20 2008 6:12 PM EDT
whoa! Expensive upgrade for what seems to be -very- little effect
QBRanger
May 20 2008 6:19 PM EDT
It seems for archers +1 attack is reasonable for defense, not so much.
For Riflemen the opposite.
Archers:
Attack (1) +2 -/- -/- -/- -/- 445 557 278 334 -/- 0:33:20
Defense rating (1) -/- +1 +1 -/- -/- 1002 1253 626 752 -/- 1:15:00
Riflemen:
Attack (1) +1 -/- -/- -/- -/- 6137 5436 12976 5085 -/- 15:45:00
Defense rating (1) -/- +2 +3 -/- -/- 223 197 471 184 -/- 0:34:17
I guess archers for primarily attack and riflemen defense so the upgrades in their "speciality" is less.
QBOddBird
May 20 2008 6:26 PM EDT
Makes sense, since Archers are offensive units.
Guess I'll be able to upgrade those blunderbuss for cheap when I get to them! *grins*
QBOddBird
May 20 2008 11:54 PM EDT
Ugh. Losing the premium account -hurts-
Got researched lvl3 scouts. Who needs to know troops and ramparts of someone around them?
chuck1234
May 21 2008 5:08 AM EDT
thud!!! back on level ground, a hard fall this loss of premium account....hardest hit is my grain level, so a full day will be wasted in upping the farm lvls, maybe adding a mill.
Ranger, if you're reading this, go buy some nuggets, no go buy lotsa nuggets....you'll get extra bonuses on everything, and at the 1:1 merchant you can even get extra raw materials....spend like some do here at CB2, and you'll be top in the time it takes to built those oh-so-slow buildings....its like a perpetual NUB on steroids lol
I just got 4 extra soldiers without training them, anyone know how this happened?
Was it from a building upgrade or possibly because someone sent them to me and I didn't get a report about it?
maby its a race thing, train so many soldiers and get 4 for free
I already had 4 for about 2 days before this happened
Zog: I got 7 Tomahawk throwers for free about 8 hours ago. I assumed the game glitched. I sent all my offensive troops (all my archers and my 7 tomahawks) to attack one village, but then I still had 7 tomahawks left in my village. I figured I'd forgotten to click them, and sent that group on a separate raid. When the battle reports came in, however, I found that both raids had 7 tomahawks on them. It was odd, but nice.
Does anyone know if purchasing an attack upgrade for a certain type of unit at the academy will upgrade the units already extant, or if it only makes new units better?
chuck1234
May 21 2008 8:41 AM EDT
colonel,when you upgrade, it improves all units equally, the extant ones and any new ones
Bartman
May 21 2008 8:53 AM EDT
How do I get some magic troops?! LOL
It would be nice if some would show up on my door! :)
Bartman
May 21 2008 8:55 AM EDT
Once the embassy upgrades are complete I'll be able to concentrate on troops. The we'll see if a cowboy can reach the top 10!
I think maybe there was a small glitch for a short period where if you had troops on a raid it doubled the attacking ones, my farmers didn't gain any.
Tezmac
May 21 2008 9:03 AM EDT
So whats the next big thing to aim for after getting a stable? It seems that I read that researching the expansion points at the academy was kind of a big deal as it was a long term thing to be able to create a new village or something...
markxe
May 21 2008 10:19 AM EDT
hope getting these cowboys was worth it !!!!!! and they dont just fall off their horses
QBRanger
May 21 2008 10:44 AM EDT
Tez,
I would certainly get scouts. Even at level 0, they can see the resources of other villages.
You need level 5 barracks and level 5 academy to be able to hire them, after researching them at the barracks.
QBOddBird
May 21 2008 11:33 AM EDT
"Zoglog[T], 8:56 AM EDT
I think maybe there was a small glitch for a short period where if you had troops on a raid it doubled the attacking ones, my farmers didn't gain any."
I wish I'd caught that glitch, I've been sending my archers out 50 at a time
Ok, well I figure since I'm the US Diplomat for this party, I needed scouts to see what we were dealing with.
Currently my scouts have the ability to see resources, troops numbers, rampart levels, and the levels for all the other buildings in their village. It took awhile, but I think it'll be worth it.
My resources are:
Holz 90 (+215) | Clay 166 (+215) | Iron 282 (+142) | Food 60 (+84) Food consumption 261/345 Zustimmung 100%
My barracks are at level 5. My rampart is at level 6. My hideout is level 6. My main is level 5. My academy is level 10. I have the stables and the cannon foundry. My mill is at level 2. My granary is level 4 (3100 capacity), and my Storage for raw materials is at level 7 (6300 capacity).
I have 30 archers, 5 riflemen, 5 tomahawk warriors, 15 mounted archers, 3 full level scouts, and 2 fire fiends.
What should I focus on next?
QBOddBird
May 21 2008 11:40 AM EDT
Check out the number one guy in the alliance most competitive with us. Post what his stuff is, and I'll attack him - if anyone wants to do follow up attacks on him when he's weakened, feel free. ;'D
Bartman
May 21 2008 12:33 PM EDT
Hey folks, just a reminder. We still need resources for the embassy upgrades. Normally I have 4-6 wagons inbound with resources to help. Right now there are none and It'll take days for the next upgrade if i have to rely on my raids and resource building to make it happen.
Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade:
Wood 5705 | Clay 4120 | Stone 4755 | Food 2535
Here are my current resources and builds:
Wood 532 (+94) | Clay 642 (+94) | Iron 1557 (+114) | Food 628 (+19)
My raw storage capacity is at at lvl 7 (6300) and my mill is at lvl 7 (5000) to accommodate the resources needed for the next upgrade.
Send some resources when you think about it. If everyone sends even a little bit, we'll be upgraded in no time. Thanks! :)
Lochnivar
May 21 2008 1:06 PM EDT
Incoming in 7:21:22
1000 Wood
1000 Clay
1000 Iron
If my raids stopped sucking I could have sent more earlier.
Tezmac
May 21 2008 1:11 PM EDT
I've noticed in the marketplace that some people can send to me a lot faster than I can send to them. How do I upgrade my transport times?
Khardin
May 21 2008 1:14 PM EDT
I think it depends on what material is being shipped and what quantity
Bartman
May 21 2008 1:24 PM EDT
Ask and you shall receive! Looks like the wagon trains are back on schedule. Thanks all! :)
QBRanger
May 21 2008 1:52 PM EDT
I have 2 towns nearby. One score of 98 with 10 ponchos and the other score 75 with no troops.
Should I attack them?, they aren't in a clan.
And attack first then raid?
I have 51 archers to do the dirty work.
only raid ranger. just raid you need resources you don't need to kill of their troops
QBOddBird
May 21 2008 4:28 PM EDT
Yep, no need to attack first, just raid like mad. In 20 minutes I'll get back 700 of each resource from my latest raid ;) bootyful!
Kong Ming
May 21 2008 5:55 PM EDT
Any mexican here? I need to know how to get the other troops, currently can only train ponchos. My academy is at level 5 and I still don't see any other options.
j'bob
May 21 2008 6:06 PM EDT
Kong, you have to research the next before you can make em. The next mexican is the pistolero. Next to the picture of the pistolero you'll see "Research -/- -/- -/- -/- -/- 940 700 1680 520" Thats the resources you need to have to research the pistolero BEFORE you can even make em. Click the little plus sign at the end of that row and you should be in business.
(I say "should" cause I still haven't done it yet.)
j'bob
May 21 2008 6:09 PM EDT
By the way, at lvl 5 academy you should be able to reserch pistoleros AND el mariachi.
Pheather
May 21 2008 6:15 PM EDT
^^ and caballerias as well.
I sent my level 3 (fully researched) Scouts to the guy who attacked Deifeln. Here's what my scout revealed:
Raid on Hakai by mejaレi (187|118)
Wood 373 | Clay 279 | Iron 547 | Food 697
Archer 7
Woodcutter Level 3
Woodcutter Level 3
Woodcutter Level 3
Woodcutter Level 3
Clay pit Level 3
Clay pit Level 3
Clay pit Level 3
Clay pit Level 3
Iron mine Level 3
Iron mine Level 2
Iron mine Level 3
Iron mine Level 3
Farm Level 4
Farm Level 4
Farm Level 4
Farm Level 4
Farm Level 4
Farm Level 3
Main Building Level 8
Granary Level 3
Storage for raw materials Level 4
Hideout Level 7
Barracks Level 5
Meeting place Level 1
Rampart Level 2
Market place Level 1
Stables Level 1
Academy Level 5
Embassy Level 3
QBOddBird
May 21 2008 11:11 PM EDT
I sent my archers after him....only 7 hours until they arrive!
Just a caution, everyone:
When attacking villages that have just come out of protection, make sure to check that they're not owned by another CBer who isn't in the alliance yet.
I mention this because phrog has set up camp about 2 spaces away from me. As I was experimenting with what my Tomahawk fighters' attack power could do for warfare, I happened to pillage his village, because he was out of protection and not in an alliance, so what did I have to lose? Well, I got an angry message back from him, at which point I immediately went "Oh yeah, there IS a phrog on CB..."
Anyway, he said he's not been too active on here lately, so he may or may not intend to join up with our alliance. I've sent him a message asking him about it.
P.S. I also sent him 15 archers to back up his village, to compensate for the troops he lost in my raid, as well as a promise to return resources to him once I'm able to send them.
In that case, is there a Felnor in CB? He's next to my town.....prime target for raiding.....
Bartman
May 22 2008 7:51 AM EDT
Just completed the embassy upgrade (Level 15).
Sent invites to:
logan666
markxe
Draugluin
Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade (level 16):
Wood 7300 | Clay 5275 | Stone 6085 | Food 3245
Thats a total of 21,905 total resources!!! (whew)
With 42 (soon to be 45) members in the alliance, that breaks down to 522 resources per member. If everyone would send at least that much, we'll be able to get the next upgrade quickly.
There are several members, Ranger comes to mind, with extended transit times to my farm. The earlier the resources get sent the better.
We have 8 members left to add but it appears as though only 6 are still actively growing.
I'll continue to keep everyone updated.
Sending some resources now but will take 7.5 hours to get to you :(
i'll try and send some resources when i get some more. though i have just gone on a big research and building spree, so might take a while
Phrede
May 22 2008 8:29 AM EDT
I'm still trickling some stuff across - should be able send another few hundred in an hour or so. I am trying to save for some troops as I have none :(
QBOddBird
May 22 2008 11:50 AM EDT
I'll send when I have some available :)
on a side note, that dude got pounded for hitting deifeln! I took out all his troops. Mwahahaha
Bartman
May 22 2008 1:13 PM EDT
Thanks all. Believe me, it all helps. I should have a update status for everyone this afternoon.
I got 5 extra tomahawk fighters for free :)
QBOddBird
May 22 2008 1:24 PM EDT
You've got more coming from me as well, though it always takes hours to get there...
IndependenZ
May 22 2008 4:47 PM EDT
I'd love some extra units. Ah well, I'll build them myself. Mwuhahaha :P
Hey, I joined up on there a little while ago, haven't built an embassy yet, still trying to build up. How do you check if you're still under protection?
QBRanger
May 22 2008 5:05 PM EDT
Settings.
Protection is for 7 days.
QBRanger
May 22 2008 5:09 PM EDT
If anyone needs resources converted, let me know.
I have some spare nuggets and can do so.
I only have 4k storage in my town, so I may have to build it up if people need this service a lot.
I can also provide an exchange service ^_^
Can as well.....have nuggets and lvl5 market, upgrading storage as we speak since I woke with 5k iron this morning.
Phrede
May 22 2008 6:37 PM EDT
me too - always there with the USD purchases :)
smallpau1s village (208 / 256)
8DEOTWP
May 22 2008 8:12 PM EDT
Lord Febo 156,198 [score 163]
killed some of my guys with 70 archers, he had 38 left after an attack and a raid.
dunno if you want to mess with him, but I'll help :)
Scout Recon on Lord Febo:
Member of KOR. Score: 165
Raid on Hakai by Karantanija (156|198)
Wood 1292 | Clay 1771 | Iron 1577 | Food 784
Archer 67
Tomahawk fighter 3
Scout 2
Woodcutter Level 4
Woodcutter Level 4
Woodcutter Level 4
Woodcutter Level 4
Clay pit Level 4
Clay pit Level 4
Clay pit Level 6
Clay pit Level 4
Iron mine Level 4
Iron mine Level 3
Iron mine Level 4
Iron mine Level 4
Farm Level 6
Farm Level 6
Farm Level 6
Farm Level 5
Farm Level 6
Farm Level 6
Main Building Level 6
Granary Level 3
Storage for raw materials Level 4
Hideout Level 2
Barracks Level 6
Meeting place Level 1
Rampart Level 1
Mill Level 2
Market place Level 2
Stables Level 6
Academy Level 7
Embassy Level 2
^_^
Bartman
May 23 2008 8:13 AM EDT
Still short about 7000 resources for the next embassy upgrade. Right now, the biggest need is wood.
If anyone is looking to send resources, wood would be first choice with clay a distant second. I have enough stone and food for now but will take it and convert if you send.
Thanks all. Added Phrog and Vanyard to my waiting list so we're up to nine left. That's only 3 upgrades and everyone is in our alliance!!
BluBBen
May 23 2008 9:34 AM EDT
So one of out guys was attacked by a KOR memeber. Should we contact them and try to sort things out? Or maybe state some sort of example? But chanses are that if we attack again we might get pounded.
Where do we go from now?
Xenko
May 23 2008 9:38 AM EDT
I'd say diplomacy at this point. We are still to weak to fight a war against them.
j'bob
May 23 2008 9:47 AM EDT
+1. We bide our time. We're growing but still young. Yes they're growing as well, but face it. We'll be better. :)
Phrede
May 23 2008 10:22 AM EDT
We should try and avoid too much confrontation with them - they are stronger but a war would not do either alliance any good. However they may well 'remember' and put us on the list. I though we were trying to go for A NAP wit them .
If I turned bandit, can I make a new account?
Phrede
May 23 2008 10:25 AM EDT
... and also they have 4 allies in the top 7 - I think we could get hammered at some stage (I have my doom and gloom cap on :) )
j'bob
May 23 2008 10:41 AM EDT
... still Freda... I'm sure it's a very nice (and expensive) hat!
Our time will come. We're strong enough to hold our own. All out war should come later though when we're more prepared.
Well I'm training Cowboys and Snipers out the wazoo, so I'm game for fights.
but I think we'd best wait a bit before jumping into a war with them.
If anyone starts up a new account, I would strongly suggest going indian.
I started one on Server 7, and I'm close to where I am at with my Cowboy, don't have the resources built up, but a ton more offense than I have with my Cowboys.
Bartman
May 23 2008 1:50 PM EDT
Update on the embassy upgrade.
Current resources and what I will gather from incoming wagons still puts us approx 3300 short of reaching our resource goal. The areas short are still wood and clay.
Any help is appreciated! :)
Draugluin
May 23 2008 1:54 PM EDT
I'm not sure where to ask this, so uh... how much can a merchant carry?
QBOddBird
May 23 2008 2:12 PM EDT
Whenever war comes, we need to be prepared to strike first
After all, with the burning archers/indians, one can destroy fortifications and buildings, so whoever hits first has a huge advantage
if we wait too long and allow ourselves to be taken by surprise, we'll only have weakened ourselves
QBOddBird
May 23 2008 2:13 PM EDT
Drauglin - 1000 total resources on each merchant
Since the burning units -can- destroy buildings and fortifications, I highly suggest we prepare for a coordinated assault. If we can destroy their resources/units/capability to produce more units, we'll win before they have a chance to hurt us back. Translation: blitzkrieg :)
QBRanger
May 23 2008 6:46 PM EDT
What does "back up" when sending troops to an ally do?
Does it give them the troops, do the troops stay in their town for defense?
smallpau1s village (208 / 256)
Can someone send some supplies my way so i dont have to wait 5+ hours to finish each building in the tutorial? Please?!
btw, i just built a marketplace. Onto the Barracks right now, but again, need more food, then ill be back at 0 clay yet again, >.<
Ranger, back-up troops can only be used for defense by the village that they are given too so if you send back-up troops then it's best to send defensive units.
smallpau1, resources can only be sent to members of your alliance freely and since you're not in the alliance yet we can't send you anything. You need an Embassy level 1 before you can join an alliance and it might be awhile before there is more room so it might be best to save the resources for it and up your farms. If you have extra food I found that offering 100 food for 150 of any other resource tended to get taken pretty quick so you might also try that. Maybe you can try to find an alliance member close to you and make a market deal that would be very good for you, something like 100 food for 300 clay. Right now my merchants are tied up sending resources to Bart for the embassy upgrade but if I have any free and notice an offer like that in the market I might help out.
FuriousHobo
May 23 2008 9:07 PM EDT
i am planning to make a new alliance. Anyone interested? It will be called Carnoobers. :P btw, put me on the list. Killer.x.core (295 / 158)
Aww, someone told me all i needed was to build a marketplace and they'd be able to send stuff to me, =/ If i knew i had to be in the alliance as well, i would've went ahead with the baracks instead, rofl, and then would've built the Marketplace. Oh well.
Draugluin
May 23 2008 9:36 PM EDT
You do not have to be in the same alliance to make a resources trade. A resource trade can be set up in the accepter's favour, and thus in such a way, send resources to you, without you being in the alliance. Much like auction-trading here.
I'm sorry small but perhaps I didn't make it that clear. Draugluin is right in that you don't have to be in an alliance to make market deals with someone you only have to be in an alliance to be sent free resources. Like I said though put some offers in the market at a 1:3 ratio(you offer 100 resources and get 300 of another in return type deal) and I try to help out if I have an extra merchant available. I'm upgrading my market now so should have an extra merchant available soon. You could even get lucky and have some random player take you up on the offer.
should recieve 500 clay and iron in just under 3.5 hrs, for embassy upgrade. would of sent some wood as well, but i was running low on that
Bartman
May 23 2008 11:29 PM EDT
Thanks all. The resources are well received!
I was finally able to upgrade the embassy (level 16).
Sent invites to:
drudge
Verifex
Kong Ming
Here are the resources for the next upgrade:
Wood 9345 | Clay 6750 | Stone 7790 | Food 4155
Total resources needed: 28,040
This one could take a bit but it doesn't have to. 45 current members (plus 3 new) comes out to 624 resources per alliance member. Not too hard to reach if everyone pitches in.
I'll need to upgrade my raw resource storage to hold all that wood but I should reach that early tomorrow. If the resources come in, I should be able to update tomorrow afternoon.
Daz
May 23 2008 11:37 PM EDT
Sending everything I had on hand:
504 Wood, 116 Clay, 511 Iron, 100 Food
Have I sent enough to make the top senders list yet? Or have I, in fact sent less than I thought I had?
Hey Logan, i got the message that you accepted the offer, but i came back to my computer just now to see only 174 clay, =/ Just built a farm, so i only have 25 left. Why didn't i get the full 250, or did it just not go through yet?
Daz
May 24 2008 12:35 AM EDT
if you click the marketplace, it should tell you how long it's going to take for the materials to arrive.
Ahh, yes, i just saw that before i saw Daz's post, i got ~2:40 hours left, =)
Thanks Logan, Daz, =)
8DEOTWP
May 24 2008 1:55 AM EDT
Lord Febo 156,198
raided twice again, this time he finished off all my units
he was left with 34 archers and 3 tomahawk fighters
QBOddBird
May 24 2008 2:34 AM EDT
Bahahhaha, my firefiends will be ready tomorrow, I'll finally have a chance to use them!
What's the story with this Lord Febo? How upped is his city? Should I wait until OB's firefiends hit to sweep in with my Toms, or should I just go for it? I have 100+ troops ready for combat, if need be.
On a related note, I just got back from a raid where I got 1700 of each resource. It's nice having a big army.
Bartman
May 24 2008 9:53 AM EDT
I think it's time we sent a message to Lord Febo bout attacking one of ours. I'm 3 hours a way but don't have any offensive troops yet. I have an idea but would feel better about explaining in the alliance forums.
I'll see everyone there.
Bartman
May 24 2008 10:12 AM EDT
Posted a message in the forums. Everyone needs to check in an read it.
I tried posting in Spydah's forum but he still needs to upgrade my permissions.
tWIsTEd
May 24 2008 11:22 AM EDT
anyone have spare troops? this guy, wongnf, just started farming the hell out of me lol. btw I'm twisted on there as well.
QBOddBird
May 24 2008 11:59 AM EDT
post his coordinates, we'll take him down a peg
Ok, guys. I have more than 4 alliances all proposing NAPs, Allys or whatever. I have one alliance asking for our help to take down KOR, another to take down Crimson Braves... *sigh*
Also, when we pick do a NAP, must we also leave their allies alone?
We need to all get together and decide what's in our best interest. I need to know what you all want, so I can relay it to them. Maybe a chat room one night on CB?
Let me know...
QBOddBird
May 24 2008 12:09 PM EDT
I'm probably being a little militaristic, but I propose we make an alliance with the one to take down KOR, do so, and then turn on them.
After all, the best defense is a good offense! If we knock out the players in our opposing alliances then nobody can beat us.
Kong Ming
May 24 2008 12:12 PM EDT
Which forum do I go to to read the info, Bartman? I just sent some resources. You guys are really fast! I've got only 11 ponchos at the moment and my resources are not really up yet...
QBRanger
May 24 2008 12:19 PM EDT
Click Embassy, then view clan. There will be a forum link, middle one I believe.
Xenko
May 24 2008 12:21 PM EDT
Does the alliance that wants to take down KOR have actually helping? Or do they just want to use us? I think that it might be a useful proposition if they can actually help.
On the other hand, if we overtook 1st place again, I could see other alliances also forming against us, whereas at the moment everyone is probably concentrating on KOR.
AdminG Beee
May 24 2008 12:33 PM EDT
/me puts on his CB Admin hat.
Might be a good time to start using the forum spydah set up for us to discuss the finer points of Wild Guns.
http://www.spydah.com/forums/
Xenko
May 24 2008 12:33 PM EDT
For those interested in helping twisted:
wongnf's coordinates are 168 | 96. He has a score of 135 and is ranked 190th.
QBOddBird
May 24 2008 12:49 PM EDT
Awwwww, spydah is the biggest sweetheart ever!
<3 to you.
Sent my scout but it's going to take 10 hours to get to him.
Also, G_Beee, I can't seem to use Spydah's forums... :(
It keeps telling me:
This board has no forums.
Xenko
May 24 2008 12:53 PM EDT
After you register on spydah's forum, send him a message either here or on WG with the user name you signed up with on the forums. He will then add you so you can view the forums.
This is to prevent people not in the alliance from signing up and viewing our plans.
QBOddBird
May 24 2008 1:06 PM EDT
Haha, clever. :)
j'bob
May 24 2008 1:10 PM EDT
+1 to ob 12:09 today.
and yes, for everyone who follows to spydah's site. first register there. then come back here and cm him here telling him you registered there. he'll let you know when you're good to go (i think)
YAY spydah.
Ok, so I vote we make an NAP with KOR.
Look at 145|287
We cannot compete with that...lol
j'bob
May 24 2008 2:20 PM EDT
err...
"and we intend to form an in-game alliance and beat out all competition. "
those were ob's exact words in the first post.
I didn't join so that we could "join in with the bigger teams in the game..."
it's CB RULE OR BUST!!!!
but thats just me. ya know, go heavy or go home. :D
Bartman
May 24 2008 2:24 PM EDT
I can see why he's so big, almost everyone around him is inactive. He' can raid to his hearts content without anyone retaliating.
I'm all for that, j'Bob...but at the moment, with all of us giving so much to Bart, we're not ready for a war...
I just want to make sure everyone is on the same page. Besides, it's not like NAPs are forever binding, hehehe
Bartman
May 24 2008 2:29 PM EDT
Agreed. We should be finished with the embassy upgrades in a coupe of days, then everyone can concentrate on building war machines.
Then it'll be time to show everyone who we are, just not right now.
j'bob
May 24 2008 2:29 PM EDT
yeah, looking at all that dead area around him makes one wonder... does it smell like MULTI in his neighborhood!!! oh cause i can smell what the multi is cooking!!! and what do we do to multies???? yeah yeah YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! ARRRGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
IndependenZ
May 24 2008 3:29 PM EDT
lol, the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire...
Anyhow, I'm all for the NAP as well. We're not ready for an all out attack right now. Live to fight another day :p Oh, I'll join Spydahs forums later this weekend, as I'm kinda busy right now.
markxe
May 24 2008 7:22 PM EDT
just sent a scout out to squares near Tymoniks he has a npc with resources of 3900 3900 3900 3900 and another 4 squares away from that of 2800 2800 2800 2800
spydah
May 24 2008 8:23 PM EDT
24 members currently, with, I think, 2 more signed up that I am awaiting confirmation from to add. (wontan and jennicide I think?) If I don't see your registered name in the alliance, or here, and you don't send me a note (here, WG or on the forum) with who you are, then I'll ask others in the alliance if they know your handle.
I check the forums a few times a day for new peeps currently, but we are pretty far from our full alliance being over there!
/\88/\
Phrede
May 24 2008 8:24 PM EDT
We need to let an admin know of this :(
8DEOTWP
May 24 2008 9:26 PM EDT
From village: Karantanija
Duration: 40:08
Time of arrival: 25.05.08 03:40
Arrival in: 0:12:21
Daz
May 24 2008 11:39 PM EDT
Joined Spydahs forum.
Just sent Bart 1k food. Hope you have room there, man.
Kong Ming
May 25 2008 1:24 AM EDT
Just joined the forum as well.
8DEOTWP
May 25 2008 6:26 AM EDT
Lord Febo raided me again, he's down to 20 archers from 27
chuck1234
May 25 2008 8:23 AM EDT
What's the optimum number of farmers for Cowboys? I've got 25 of a maximum 80, so should I increase their number as near the max, or just get it around 30-40ish?
I'm not a cowboy, but it seems to me that they would pay for themselves, as they increase resource production. Plus added defense, even if it's not too good, is helpful.
Bartman
May 25 2008 9:23 AM EDT
Just upgraded the embassy (level 17).
Sent invites to:
LittleAnthony
phrog
serialkilla
Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade: (level 18)
Wood 11965 | Clay 8640 | Stone 9970 | Food 5315
Unless I'm missing someone, I only have 3 folks left on my list to invite:
[unk] fangs
Blarg
Vanyard
Am I missing anyone? If not, this will be that last embassy upgrade we need and everyone will be in!!!! :) Keep those resources coming!
Daz
May 25 2008 9:51 AM EDT
Before I start attacking like a madman, I really need to check: Greys are inactive, right?
AdminG Beee
May 25 2008 9:55 AM EDT
Yes. Try and find low level ones to start with in order to gauge who you're not going to lose units against.
For me at my level I find that attacking, lvl 4 & 5 is the best.
QBOddBird
May 25 2008 9:56 AM EDT
That is, unless it is a gray ring around the town, which means they're in your alliance. Only attack if they are entirely in the gray.
Forgot me, (But i don't have embassy just yet)
smallpau1
John Paul Jones (208 / 256)
AbbathorX
May 25 2008 10:48 AM EDT
me too: AbbathorXs village (175 / 263)
Already have an embassy and everything. Currently working on my little pile of Mariachis.
Edicinnej
May 25 2008 11:40 AM EDT
forgot me as well. tehe tipi (317 / 180)
Bartman
May 25 2008 11:44 AM EDT
Added all three of you! Thanks for replying. I wanted to make sure I didn't forget anyone.
so I'm in the alliance now?
Bartman
May 25 2008 11:49 AM EDT
Are you serialkilla? If so you're in!
wow, my score is pathetic
Bartman
May 25 2008 12:00 PM EDT
No worries, you'll get back up there.
Check Fortunatto (Ranger). He got a late start and has already passed me on the leader board.
haven't you been building up the embassy?
NSFY
May 25 2008 12:03 PM EDT
Any more room in the alliance - could I be added to the wait list?
Bartman
May 25 2008 12:20 PM EDT
Yeah, I'm the great embassy builder! LOL It's still a good sign to see folks are able to move up that fast.
Bartman
May 25 2008 12:22 PM EDT
I just scrubbed the roster and added a few names form folks that I accidentally left off the list.
Here is the current wait list:
Inebriated arsonist - 136
Wotan - 122
Gigan - 112
Darmichar - 84
Annihilus - 81
Vaynard - 75
Jennicide - 65
SmallPau1 - 51
NSFY, I need your WG name and I'll add you to the list.
Kong Ming
May 25 2008 12:23 PM EDT
Just sent some resources! No bonus really hurts ;)
Bartman
May 25 2008 12:58 PM EDT
Pick up some nuggets and keep the bonus going. Most of us have already done it.
QBOddBird
May 25 2008 1:50 PM EDT
Not meeee. I just wanna take the game over, not quite willing to spend money on it m'self ;'P
lostling
May 25 2008 1:56 PM EDT
lostling have joined the game
NSFY
May 25 2008 3:10 PM EDT
My WG name is NSFY 263/138.
lostling
May 25 2008 3:16 PM EDT
lostlings village (181 / 288)
QBRanger
May 25 2008 3:16 PM EDT
Wood 4040 | Clay 10105 | Iron 5050 | Food 6060 |Time 08:40:00 |Food Resources 2
To get to level 10 woodcutter.
Ouch!!!
AdminG Beee
May 25 2008 3:22 PM EDT
What's your current refresh rate Ranger?
You can enter it in your profile on Spydah's forum and you'll see yours and everyone else's (providing they update of course) via the link he posted.
QBRanger
May 25 2008 3:39 PM EDT
whats the link to the forum?
QBRanger
May 25 2008 3:42 PM EDT
I tried but there are no forums. How do I set up a profile?
QBOddBird
May 25 2008 3:46 PM EDT
If you meant on spydah's forums, Ranger, you won't see them until you CM spydah and let him know you signed up. They're currently hidden.
Xenko
May 25 2008 3:50 PM EDT
Steps to Register for Spydah's WG Forum:
1. Go to
http://www.spydah.com/forums/
2. Sign up. You will not see anything when you first sign up. This is to prevent people not in the CB alliance from seeing the forums.
3. Message
Spydah on CB or on Wild Guns with the user name you used to sign up on the forum website.
4. Spydah will add you to the list, and then post away!
lol I sent out an attack of 40 archers (I had 41) 8 tomahawk fighters and 4 mounted archers.
Looking afterwards my troops in the village still said i had 8 tomahawks and 4 mounted archers. I gained another free soldiers :)
Xenko
May 25 2008 6:10 PM EDT
Did you actually send out your Tomahawks and Mounted Archers?
yup i sent out 4 mounted archers and 8 tomahawk guys. They got duplicated in some strange way. Happened to me before but then it was only 5 tomahawks.
I had the same thing happen, except with 77 tomahawk guys. That becomes a lot when it is doubled.
Xenko
May 25 2008 7:38 PM EDT
That could seriously affect your food usage in a bad way if you don't have enough excess.
Xenko, it did, but then I sent them on a couple raids and they brought back enough resources for a lvl 9 farm. I was at -77 food per hour for a while, but now I'm back up at +90-ish after some upgrades.
did I get an invite yet?
hmm... my increased production will run out in a few hours from now... >_> i suppose it's time to build up troops for raids now
Bartman
May 25 2008 10:42 PM EDT
You are on the next invite list after the current upgrade.
I'm not even close to the upgrade yet. I've had some large donations but I'm still short on Wood and Clay.
As soon as I upgrade, you'll be on the next invite list.
AdminG Beee
May 25 2008 11:15 PM EDT
Sent 1k wood.
Not sure how far down the list I'll be, but that's fine. I'll have an embassy after 10 more minutes of build time. Hope to see you all soon!
oh, ok... i thought I might have missed it cuz I wasn't able to log on here or there the past 2 days...
man, losing the resource production bonus really hurt my food production >_> from 70+ to just 37... now I need to upgrade my farms some more again.
how does 25% take you from 37 to over 70?
AdminG Beee
May 26 2008 7:39 AM EDT
It's on your total before reductions.
Draugluin
May 26 2008 7:47 AM EDT
Does this include farmers?
Just started my embassy, finished the tutorial finally!
lostling
May 26 2008 9:44 AM EDT
40 minutes till im done with my 1st upgrade of town hall :) and another 40 minutes i guess for the next upgrade
Bartman
May 26 2008 10:29 AM EDT
I finally got a chance to update my embassy donations spreadsheet;
Congrats and many thanks go to the top 5 contributors to our embassy growth:
J'Bob - 19,500
Wrathless - 14,250
Sox jr - 8700
Stingiestbard - 8490
Deifeln - 8055
The average amount donated is : 3,960
Now for the not so good:
We have 8 players who have not donated anything.
We have an additional 2 players who donate last week but nothing this week.
5 players who have donated less than 500
1 player less than 1000
I'm going to send messages to the 16 players under 1000 donated and post the info in our forum so everyone can see where we stand.
We need EVERYONE to help out if we're going to accomplish our goal of getting everyone in the alliance.
As it stands right now, we did not upgrade the embassy yesterday and I'm still 11,036 short of the upgrade an only 3 wagons inbound.
Once again, wood and clay are the most needed resources.
Please donate freely.
QBOddBird
May 26 2008 10:32 AM EDT
I have no problem donating when I can, but unfortunately right now I'm trying to play 'catch-up' to everyone else resource-wise. I dunno if any of those messages are for me (not sure if it has been a week yet since I donated last) but I simply can't do it yet.
QBRanger
May 26 2008 10:35 AM EDT
Bart,
I have 1500 wood, 350 clay and 700 iron coming to you.
10 hours to get it all.
Pheather
May 26 2008 2:45 PM EDT
Just got a lot of my army wiped out by f1d0, who's part of Killers of Revenge. Anyone else getting attacked by KoR?
AdminG Beee
May 26 2008 2:49 PM EDT
I've offered to approach KoR with a proposal of a NAP. Waiting on feedback from Bartman on whether he wants me to go ahead or not.
I am terribly sorry. I've been so busy this past week, I haven't had much of a chance to focus on WGs much. This week though, I should be able to finally negotiate alliances and such.
I sent 1000 wood, and 333 each of the other resources. More to follow. ^_^
AdminG Beee
May 26 2008 2:55 PM EDT
Hakai, don't worry about it :)
Their leader is a guy called Bardogan. He's in my timezone (well +1) as he comes from DK. I'm happy to approach him as the CB Euro Diplomat :) if you wish.
Thanks, G_Beee, that'd be great ^_^
I think an NAP with them is a good thing, seeing as there's 100% approval rating of a NAP with KOR anyway in Spydah's forums...
I am in too much of a hurry to deal with the no spell check tags, so this sentence is in it's place. -_-
AdminG Beee
May 26 2008 4:03 PM EDT
OK, in that case I'm on it.
/me grabs a bottle of scotch and heads on over to KoR's place...
Phrede
May 26 2008 4:10 PM EDT
Best of luck with that G_Beee
AdminG Beee
May 26 2008 4:26 PM EDT
OK, it's done - message sent. I'll update on the spydah forums...
700 wood and 300 clay will be there from me in 5 hours. Sorry my donations are so wimpy. I suppose I should get my marketplace higher than lvl 1 soon...
AdminG Beee
May 26 2008 5:47 PM EDT
Message from the KoR leader:
"It would be cool if we could upgrade to allied but your desision"
Check the spydah forum for the detail and follow up discussion folks...
PS. He's the one with spelling issues, not me :p
QBOddBird
May 26 2008 7:11 PM EDT
No worries, it only took me a quick look at their profile to realize that one, Beee ;'D
QBOddBird
May 26 2008 9:15 PM EDT
Everyone, please check the Spydah forum, subforum "attack coordination" topic "War."
Please read through all arguments presented by all players before you give your input, as there are arguments to be made towards the decision we will choose. Everyone should have a voice, but no voice should be ignored.
Keep in mind we are trying to dominate the game, not find our place within it and settle down. ;)
QBsutekh137
May 26 2008 9:18 PM EDT
As far as the spelling issues, tell him you'll cut him with a rusty SCISOR.
CB sty-uuul.
Bartman
May 26 2008 10:54 PM EDT
Just upgraded the embassy again (level 18):
Thanks to all who have helped.
Sent invites to:
Inebriated Arsonist
Gigan
wotan
Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade:
Wood 15315 | Clay 11060 | Stone 12760 | Food 6805
I'll need to upgrade my storage for raw materials again (level 12) to hold the wood.
Try to consider donating wood, stone, clay, food in that order. The wood still seems the hardest to get, followed by clay.
6 more players and we'll be done. We'll also have the largest alliance by 15 members!
lostling
May 26 2008 11:04 PM EDT
/me waves at bartman me me me me hehe too bad my embassy aint up yet
finally got some troops for raiding... ^_^
do you guys raid only bandits around you or also other villages?
most bandits around me have very low scores and I get only a few hundred resources from them >_>
Yes I raid most of the bandits around me, if there is many of them and you have alot of troops, send the troops out in batches of 25 and plunder what ever you can get. Better than sending too many and getting next to nothing. At least this way, you can hit them multiple times before draining their resources.
I can only spare 15 at the moment... I'm still traing up my troops now with the plundered loot ^_^
getting around 160 of each resource every 20 mins from the raids... I should have trained up my troops a long time ago lol
Kong Ming
May 27 2008 2:35 AM EDT
Sorry for sending food most of the time. I always have a lot more food. Bartman, can I continue sending food or do I try to get it exchanged to wood?
8DEOTWP
May 27 2008 2:38 AM EDT
he can exchange it using premium
Draugluin
May 27 2008 2:44 AM EDT
3 nuggets a pop, wasn't it? In any case, I'm sorry for sending so little and when I do mostly food. Trying to upgrade my resources, and with only 1 merc to run around with, a thousand a shot is all :S
Kong Ming
May 27 2008 3:45 AM EDT
Tried raiding several times. Have been losing one poncho every now and then. Should I build up a larger no before continuing with the raids? Have 14 ponchos left.
BluBBen
May 27 2008 3:46 AM EDT
I think you need 22 ponchos to be sure to never lose any of them. Attacking on defened villages that is.
AdminG Beee
May 27 2008 3:48 AM EDT
Sent another 1k wood.
I raid bandits without any troops defending and I still lose 1 poncho every few times... I guess it depends on the luck % during the attack?
I noticed that I lose one when it goes over -15%.
Kong Ming
May 27 2008 4:10 AM EDT
What is the role of beer? Will it increase our luck in battles/ raids?
Draugluin
May 27 2008 4:17 AM EDT
I suppose its most likely some indicator of approval rating for you. So if you lose enough of it, you'll get booted and whoever's plying your citizens with it gets your town. You know, like whiskey treks and stuff.
AdminG Beee
May 27 2008 4:23 AM EDT
Kong Ming - check out the WG forums for more info on how the Tavern and alcohol works.
AdminG Beee
May 27 2008 9:30 AM EDT
OK - it's done. KoR have agreed to an alliance with the condition that no further alliances will be created.
Now - I suggest we stop using this forum and driving everyone who doesn't play WG mad, and start using the excellent forum Spydah has set up for us.
j'bob
May 27 2008 11:21 AM EDT
Here here, pip pip and all that!
course, it would be neat to see just how many posts we can total here. not spamming and such of course.
Is there a record for such a thing?
I have a legit question, but I'll seek the answer on spydah.com!
QBOddBird
May 27 2008 11:47 AM EDT
That would've been that spammy old "1 word answer" thread.
Also, if this thread is to be closed, I'd like to see the instructions on how to register for spydah's forum as the last post here...
AdminG Beee
May 27 2008 11:52 AM EDT
I didn't say I was going to close it. I just think it would be polite to use the one dedicated to us on spydah's boards and stop hogging the CB boards to talk about another game :)
Steps to register for the Spydah boards are on the first post on this thread :)
QBOddBird
May 27 2008 11:54 AM EDT
Ah, ok. And thanks, admin Beee :)
Drakon(DS)
May 27 2008 12:03 PM EDT
i just started playing and i dont know how to conquere other villages
QBRanger
May 27 2008 12:35 PM EDT
You sent out troops to either raid or attack.
You have to have troops first to do so.
Use the World Map to see other villages. Grey ones are inactive/NPC's.
Use your Booze wagons to conquer other villages. Wiskey trek, firewater trek and the tequila trek.
BooDiggens
May 27 2008 8:47 PM EDT
Got raided by Dogus from the Killerz of Revenge Alliance. What kind of name is that? I know I'm not in the CB alliance but anyone want to seek retribution on my behalf?
QBOddBird
May 27 2008 8:49 PM EDT
Hehe. I think we should. ;)
We can't... We have an NAP with them. Message them back saying you're on the waiting list for the CB alliance. That should cease attacks. If it doesn't contact G_Beee or myself, either in game or in a CM.
8DEOTWP
May 27 2008 9:54 PM EDT
KoR alliance is probably the last one you want to mess with 8D
I broke my village. im not in the alliance to buy or receive res support to fix it..any suggestions...i managed to stagnate my food supply. oops.
DH.
Poorage
May 27 2008 11:27 PM EDT
is this like a strategy game like utopia? cause im so sick of those
1. Dont troll,
2. any of you wait listers help me out...i broke my town and am in need of a pity shipment of food. I'll love you long time.
or ill pay you...either way.
DH
Daz
May 27 2008 11:33 PM EDT
"I broke my village. im not in the alliance to buy or receive res support to fix it..any suggestions...i managed to stagnate my food supply. oops.
DH."
Find someone really big and attack them. When your troops get maimed, you'll have a little bit of an income. Or attack inactive people with them and get food. If you don't have any troops, then... um...
Daz
May 27 2008 11:34 PM EDT
Oh. Use the market to trade.
I still suck...no market yet. I fail at this game lol
j'bob
May 27 2008 11:41 PM EDT
DH, what exactly is broke? A little time may be all you need. Let us know exactly what the problem is. :D
I stagnated out my food source...as in im not generating any due to too many upgrades and im completely out of food. I didnt know buildings cut down on + to food per hour
j'bob
May 27 2008 11:52 PM EDT
You're not producing ANY food at all? Did you already build an embassy? If that's the case the only thing I can think of is to wait to accept the invite to the alliance and we can send you some food. Otherwise I don't know, the game says the following about food consumption but it's kinda vague...
Food consumption
You have to be always in plus, normally it is not possible to come to minus. What means if you have only + 1 in food production you have to level up the fields before you can build up other things.
At the moment there are only a few possibilities to drop to minus in food consumption.
After completing the tutorial you get the premium account with 25% bonus on food. if you build up only other things there could be the chance that you drop to minus after the premium ended. On the other side there are military units that can destroy buildings. If someone destroying your mill you can also drop to minus. But this is not
tested yet. But if you level your cornfields, you can get back to normal. If you are in minus you can only level up your cornfields.
I Mailed a GO or whatever earlier in the evening, he just responded...apperently i it was incorrectly displaying my food(i just needed to hit my refresh button). im at +1 food. so i just got to camp for about 72 hours till i get enough to build a farm.
Kong Ming
May 28 2008 12:49 AM EDT
Do you have a marketplace? Go trade your other resources for food so that you can upgrade your farms.
QBOddBird
May 28 2008 3:37 AM EDT
DH, May 27
I still suck...no market yet. I fail at this game lol
lostling
May 28 2008 11:41 AM EDT
lostling has got an embassy :) invite me when you can please~ :)
Daz
May 28 2008 11:43 AM EDT
Sent another 4k resources. Hope you have room for 3k much food!
Daz
May 28 2008 11:44 AM EDT
*3k food. That'll teach me to not edit my sentences and then not reread them. Or not, but we can dream.
Bartman
May 28 2008 2:35 PM EDT
Thanks Dazs! It's helping a bunch!
I'm still short just over 5,000 in resources to make the next upgrade. Having said that, I've received over 20,000 in the last 36 hours from the team so, great job!
If you haven't donated in the last 2 days, it would help a bunch if you did.
If resources keep coming in, 5 wagons currently inbound, we should be able to upgrade today. That should leave us with 3 left on the waiting list after the current 3 join.
NSFY
May 28 2008 3:02 PM EDT
Does that include me pretty please?
NSFYs village (263 / 138)
Bart, did you get my in game message to add me to the queue for waitlist?
As you can tell from a few messages ago...i messed up my town so im tryin to recover a bit before i send you some RES
IndependenZ
May 28 2008 3:27 PM EDT
500 clay and 1000 food on its way, Bartman. Only 90 minutes :)
Can't afford to lose any wood or iron though.
Phrede
May 28 2008 4:09 PM EDT
I think we may need another Group/Alliance soon :)
8DEOTWP
May 28 2008 4:11 PM EDT
/motions towards AoD
AdminG Beee
May 28 2008 4:21 PM EDT
60 members is the capacity and we're at 54 now.
Creating another alliance isn't a good idea given that the deal we struck with KoR was based on them not allying with anyone else - it'd be a bit rich if we were to do so :)
I suggest anyone who is left on the "outside" gets in touch with Bartman and we try and identify who from the current members has gone inactive and no longer plays. Inactive users can be kicked and space made as a result. Alternatively, un-allied players could contact KoR or one of their recognised allies and get in that way.
Un-allied players should put some text in their profile along the lines of "Protected by the Carnage Blender Alliance", or something like that...
MPetro789
May 29 2008 1:46 AM EDT
Bartman, if I can get the last spot I'll be fortunate to have it. I was trying to get to Spydah's forums to request this. Somehow I'm not getting something right with that. Petroville 161/204. If not well....I guess I just should have said something sooner. Anyway I'd still like to be part of the forums even if I can't be in the alliance.
Bartman
May 29 2008 9:24 AM EDT
Just upgraded the embassy!!!! (Level 19)
Sent invites to:
[umk]Fangs
MPetro789
BooDiggity
Darmichar
Booted Godwolf for non-support of our alliance and inactivity. He's not provided any support to our alliance upgrades and his char hasn't grown at all in the last 2 weeks.
Sent messages to 6 others for non-support and will boot them to provide spots for the remaining folks on the list if they continue non-support of our efforts.
This will be the last embassy upgrade!!!! Level 20 is as high as the embassy can grow. Here are the resources needed to complete the upgrade:
Wood 19600 | Clay 14155 | Stone 16335 | Food 8710
The requirements have gone up considerably in the last 2 upgrades. As you can see, wood and stone are the highest requirements and, as usual, wood and clay are going to be my biggest requirements. My stone capability seems better than the other 2.
Send what you can and we'll complete the upgrade as soon as i am able to collect the resources needed.
Thanks again everyone for all your help!!!
QBOddBird
May 29 2008 11:11 AM EDT
I don't think Jenni is in the alliance.
Bartman
May 29 2008 11:26 AM EDT
Not yet but she's on the wait list. Currently #3
Sending resources: 400 wood, 400 iron. Sorry, I only have 1 merchant.
Arrival At:
30.05.08 00:55 5:32:47
Duration:
5:32:22
QBOddBird
May 29 2008 1:31 PM EDT
Mine will arrive in about 3 hours...
QBOddBird
May 29 2008 1:34 PM EDT
"Creating another alliance isn't a good idea given that the deal we struck with KoR was based on them not allying with anyone else - it'd be a bit rich if we were to do so :) "
I thought you said earlier that they had sister alliances?
AdminG Beee
May 29 2008 1:38 PM EDT
They do, and the deal was they'd take on no more.
I also said, "Alternatively, un-allied players could contact KoR or one of their recognised allies and get in that way."
:p
j'bob
May 29 2008 1:38 PM EDT
They do, they have several others. I think it is worth approaching them about in an open manner. Make them aware that we are only looking to get all of our own people in and not seek members from the game in general. Put it to them as a sort of CB1 part Dos.
QBOddBird
May 29 2008 1:40 PM EDT
I am not particularly eager about the idea of limiting ourselves via our alliance with them. If we need to expand, we should do so and let them know that our # of alliances won't exceed their number.
However, I don't care for the idea of "yeah, we won't make more than 1 alliance if you promise to ONLY keep your five."
AdminG Beee
May 29 2008 2:01 PM EDT
Well Spydah has opened up a section of his forums for both KoR and __CB__ to use. You can introduce yourself to them over there and get to know them OB :)
QBOddBird
May 29 2008 2:25 PM EDT
..except only CBers have posted there. We need KoR people to sign up for that to work ;'P
NSFY
May 29 2008 3:50 PM EDT
I don't see me on any waiting lists - I think I first requested to be put on it on the 25th. Is there some other procedure?
Phrede
May 29 2008 4:45 PM EDT
quick question - have KoR agreed to our rider ?
AdminG Beee
May 29 2008 4:52 PM EDT
Yes they've agreed not to add any more allies.
They've also agreed to share the spydah forum board. They only have access to the Ally chat but it's a good place to start plotting the downfall of other alliances on our server.
Quicker we get to know these guys the better imo - it can only help us.
I like my forums better: http://defhoboz.biz/forum/ ;)
Phrede
May 29 2008 5:34 PM EDT
Its a good forum for people without keyboards - one of my favorites.
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drudge
May 29 2008 6:08 PM EDT
is that CoC with a backwards C at the end?
Edicinnej
May 29 2008 6:15 PM EDT
It's a highly stylized CB. I can do something more traditional if that is what people would prefer. The thing in the middle is suppose to be sort of like a fireball, which kind of ties WG->CB.
j'bob
May 29 2008 7:15 PM EDT
i though it was for the return of Corrosion of Conformity.
sigh.
Ugh! don't remind me of that band JB, had a few good tracks then kind of tapered into normality.
I sent 250 wood, 500 clay, 250 food.
it will arrive in around 8 hours its all I could spare at the moment since I'm still trying to upgrade my resource production, and I only have 1 merchant too lol
QBOddBird
May 30 2008 8:42 AM EDT
How much do you lack now, Bartman?
QBRanger
May 30 2008 9:35 AM EDT
Got my first settler under production.
Will let you know how it goes.
Bartman
May 30 2008 11:51 AM EDT
Rough count shows me to be about 16,000 short. Total resources needed for this upgrade is 58,000 so we're getting close!
AdminG Beee
May 30 2008 11:57 AM EDT
Bartman,
Can you work out how much of your own resource you've used for the upgrades?
You've sacrificed the first couple of weeks of your own village unselfishly in order to create a safe place for us to play. It's only fair that we at least compensate you with some of the resource as pay back so that you can get up on your feet with all of the things you didn't build.
Phrede
May 30 2008 12:01 PM EDT
Also we need to work out what to do with all the people on the waiting list.
Bartman
May 31 2008 11:21 AM EDT
We made it!!! We finally upgraded our embassy to Level 20!!!
As expected, this was the last upgrade allowed by the game. The message i got was: " This building has been fully expanded"
Sent invites to:
AbbathorX
twisted
NSFY
That leaves the following still on the wait list:
Vaynard
Jennicide
Annihilus
SmallPau1
dirtyhippy
Lostling
I'm flying today but when I get home, I'll go through all the wagon train logs and see where we stand. After that's done, I'll talk with Freed and a few other large supporters to see what to do about moving some folks around.
Thanks everyone for all your support! :)
well that kinda sucks...now that you are fully built theres no need to send you res. that kinda makes it difficult for me to get in hahah...since i wasnt able to "buy" my way in like the rest. oh well. i guess ill patiently wait for a slot.
QBRanger
May 31 2008 5:42 PM EDT
Anyone know if one can combine troops from 2 of your own villages?
I thought I was on the waitlist?
QBOddBird
June 1 2008 1:51 AM EDT
yes, well I also thought Jenn was #3, but apparently she got shifted down to #5 for helping make logos. I don't know, I'm confused too.
Phrede
June 1 2008 2:16 AM EDT
The only way that we can do this is some diplomacy with KoR to see if they mind us creating another alliance cb2 or whatever expolaining the problem that we have. I do not then mind running it as a feeder group for cb1 - something like all those below x exp go into cb2 group and those above stay in cb1. Do we know yet whether a second village's Embassy allows extra members i.e. if Bartman creates a second village it will allow more members into the allowance. I am sure it used to in Travian as there were some pretty big alliances.
AdminG Beee
June 1 2008 4:12 AM EDT
Phrede
June 1 2008 6:26 AM EDT
So we do need to create another alliance to get our other pals onboard.
AdminG Beee
June 1 2008 7:27 AM EDT
For me let's wait and see what Bartman has to say.
I think he said he's going to be travelling over the weekend but will have a look at the current member list when he gets back. He may very well end up making some space after going through the list and ejecting inactive members.
QBRanger
June 1 2008 7:50 AM EDT
A second village is in the alliance as the alliance is for the player, not the village.
ActionAction
June 1 2008 11:01 AM EDT
We really should get some more people registered on Spydah's forums. This giant thread is useful to keep us updated from time to time, but it's not meant to take the place of an entire forum x__x.
[CB2] Carnage blender2
i got my alliance back, go me :D
QBRanger
June 1 2008 4:06 PM EDT
AoD,
For once I agree with you.
so whoever isnt in that alliance can join me
Phrede
June 2 2008 12:22 AM EDT
well done AoD
bravo, bravo indeed, Mr Angel.
I just joined with AoD, go us!
QBOddBird
June 3 2008 11:22 AM EDT
You should send out some invites then, AoD, only one member in your alliance thus far...find out who needs in
lostling
June 3 2008 11:23 AM EDT
me too i guess... but im still hoping bart would find me a place :)
j'bob
June 3 2008 12:21 PM EDT
just as a matter of record AoD, I was behind ya from the get go! ;p
people that want to join me should pm me, i donno who all play and isn't in the alliance
lost, take my place in Bart's and I'll join with AoD, same time zone and such...way easier :-)
Bart had the list a few posts up somewhere, i need in still as well. But i figured we were all waiting for Bart to go through the alliance to see who was inactive, because i highly doubt everyone in there plays even now. What is it, 60 in the alliance? I see the same 5-10 people posting here and in the spydah forums, not near 60, lol.
That leaves the following still on the wait list:
Vaynard
Jennicide
Annihilus
SmallPau1
dirtyhippy
Lostling
I think Vaynard should take Lings place as he joined before all of us still waiting.
drudge
June 3 2008 4:02 PM EDT
ya bartman is lazy leader
umm, how did Bartman get to 16th so fast?
AdminG Beee
June 3 2008 4:30 PM EDT
Points from the embassy upgrades.
i got 18 invites left, so pm on cb or wg
Bartman
June 3 2008 5:26 PM EDT
Got the numbers posted in Spydah's forum. Freed and I are discussing options right now.
I dismissed Hzarb for lack of support and sent invite to Jennicide. Vaynard will be the next up.
We may possibly have several more spots open up today.
Bartman
June 3 2008 5:46 PM EDT
FYI on my stats for anyone who's interested or concerned. Most of my points have been gathered through embassy upgrades, raw materials storage and grain storage.
The raw materials and grain storage upgrade were required so I could hold the resources of each type needed for the embassy upgrades.
Here are my resources growth rates:
Wood (+189) | Clay (+215) | Iron (+246) | Food (+73) Food consumption 402/475
Most of my resource upgrade have come in the last several days, AFTER the last embassy upgrade. Even these numbers are far behind other players at my score level.
Right now my char is way skewed to the embassy and my other upgrade have suffered while I was focussed on getting our alliance upgraded and filled up.
I challenge anyone who thinks I have been using donated resources for my own personal gain while we were upgrading the embassy.
If anyone recalls, I was in 3rd place when I built my embassy and dropped to the mid 30's while the upgrades were being built. My char fluctuated between 25-35 until the last embassy upgrade was completed.
Right now, I'm playing catch up to try to get my academy, tavern, stables, etc. up tot he point of the rest of our alliance.
If it sounds like I'm venting, I am. I take offense an anyone who even hints that I was working at anything other than the best interest of our alliance.
QBOddBird
June 3 2008 5:50 PM EDT
Don't worry Bartman, we know. :)
And we <3 you for biting the bullet to help the alliance. I'll send you some resources to help you up on your feet soon.
Again, I'm still not on the invite list. >:l
Bartman
June 3 2008 6:26 PM EDT
Linguala moved over to AoD's Alliance.
Sent invite to Vaynard.
i will try my best with the resource thing. I did this game so wrong that my production is quite too low. Give me extra time.
lostling
June 3 2008 7:13 PM EDT
*waves at bart* mememe
So the lsit leaves:
Annihilus
SmallPau1
dirtyhippy
Lostling
JS
Are we doing it in this order or what? I assume that's what's going on?
Bartman
June 3 2008 7:55 PM EDT
I've been sending invites based on size and support to the alliance. I just sent out 18 messages and I assume I'll get a couple that may want to jump over to AoD but we'll see.
Here are the current score for folks on the wait list:
Annihilus - 125
SmallPau1 - 101
dirtyhippy - 81
Lostling - 93
JSbot - 142
Lat 2 invites went to
Jennicide - 184
Vaynard - 135
JSbot would have received the second invite but I forgot he wasn't on the list, sorry.
Bart, there are some resources on their way to help you out.
Thank you for being our alliance leader.
thats cool, i don't mind waiting for a slot even if it takes a month tbh. Im totally addicted to the game so i don't think im going anywhere.
lol
deifeln
June 4 2008 8:23 AM EDT
Perhaps the non-clan CB players could be 'spies.' Try to get a high score and then apply for membership in another clan :o)
or they could join me delp
QBRanger
June 4 2008 9:18 AM EDT
As we have more people that want to play then can fit into 1 clan, I think having 2 clans is a good idea.
I will change to AoD's clan if needed. To balance them out if that is desired.
AdminG Beee
June 4 2008 9:30 AM EDT
Ranger, I think we should wait a while before making such decisions.
I expect __CB1__ to reduce in numbers as people stop playing and become inactive. I think in 1 months time we will be doing well to still have 60 Carnage Blender players active in Wild Guns.
Of course, that's an assumption on my behalf :)
AoD should be compensated in the same way that Bartman was for increasing his embassy. I understand a player can leave an alliance and join a new one for long enough to make a market trade and then back again. This is a way around the problem of transfers outside of alliances.
They're not as sophisticated with their alliance cooldowns as Jon is over here on CB :)
j'bob
June 4 2008 9:43 AM EDT
+1 with the Beee.
And I think we'll do better to keep growing with in our (2) CB alliances until we see where we stand in some time as opposed to joining other groups to spy. Though it does sound fun.
If only AoD hadn't disbanded his first alliance.
/me sighs and hugs the wacky soul collector!
im still waiting for ppl asking for invites
If someone could go and check out Spydah's forums in the Strategy section and help me out, it'd be much appreciated!! :D
Ok, so it appears that Gun can still not see the forums, and I'm guessing that there are others. So I'm going to post here. Please forgive the double post in advance hehe.
Also, I realize that people have already posted their replies in the thread. No need to add them here, I suppose, as I can read them there. This is mainly for the people that cannot seem to access the forum.
POST #1:
Ok, so I've been trying to decide where to put my new settlement. I originally had planned to put it right next to me, but the raiding around my area kinda sucks. I also thought about putting myself near Gun, so our attacks could hit at the same time, but I'm not sure about that either. Then I thought I'd put myself right in the middle of all the top players to give myself easier access to them, but.... *sigh*
What do you guys think? Where is my prime real estate spot? hehe
Make that a triple post... :(
POST #2:
I'd like to take down PFF... :D
So. I have dozens of their members surrounding me, and I'm sick of not being able to farm anyone because of them. I would love to orchestrate a takedown of their alliance. My coordinates are Hakai's Hideout (196 / 225).
As you can see, there's like 15 of them around me in the different directions. 3 of their members are less than an hour from me, plus they have a supply village less than an hour away as well.
What do you guys think? Too early?
chuck1234
June 5 2008 1:51 PM EDT
PFF is KOR's ally, KOR is our ally; so no deal, PFF is OUT OF BOUNDS, sorry to disappoint ya ;)
QBOddBird
June 5 2008 1:54 PM EDT
I'm good with helping you take them down. :)
j'bob
June 5 2008 2:06 PM EDT
um, hello... unless they're attacking her... we can't break treaty...(we just made the dern thing!)
Well, in case no one has noticed, that then leaves only 2 of the top 10 clans that we can attack...
That seems a bit ridiculous... I think it's perhaps time to discuss their ally choices with them...
AdminG Beee
June 5 2008 2:21 PM EDT
They haven't allied with anyone since we did. In fact, they've broken an alliance at our request when we reminded them of the terms we agreed when setting up our own alliance.
I don't understand the rush to go toe to toe with KoR. If there's 2 others in the top 10 - go for them first, we can worry about the others later.
j'bob
June 5 2008 2:28 PM EDT
um and aren't there lots of lil non allied huts and tee pees out there?
lets start slowly people
QBOddBird
June 5 2008 2:31 PM EDT
=( I wanna take the game over, as per original post. We're sharing it. -That's- why I'm in a rush to go toe to toe with KoR: they're our competition.
I would like to eventually mount an assault on them, both CB alliances, and remove them. If our diplomats could continue talks and convince them to disband another alliance, that would be great. Then we could take 3 of the top 10 alliances out and they'd have fewer alliances backing them up.
But then, that's just my war-mongering...
AdminG Beee
June 5 2008 2:35 PM EDT
Hakai,
I've just checked and your information is wrong. KoR are only allies with three other groups - and we're one of them.
Again, why the rush to pick on the only alliance that's bigger than us..?
Am I missing the point..?
--
KoR.
Allies :
[PFF] Play For Fun
[~Os~] Osiris
[__CB__] Carnage 1
Naps :
[ex Yu] Ex Yu
[OWC] Old West Conquerors
[~=A=~] Akatsuki
[C.B] Crimson Braves
j'bob
June 5 2008 2:59 PM EDT
and seeing as how we've got carnageblender pasted all over our WG stuff, i'm sure that even tho they're smart enough to be top in that game, they'll never think to keep an eye on us here (hmmm, if memory serves you don't even have to sign up to browse the wiki and forums?)
good thing they know where we stand. ;p
j'bob
June 5 2008 3:00 PM EDT
i'd say bulk up everyone... i smell war on the coming winds...
Phrede
June 5 2008 4:33 PM EDT
The outcome of a war would be either:
a: We both weaken ourselves so much as to let the other alliances take over.
b: We win and are so weak that the other alliances take over
c: We lose - if any of the KoR members have played Travian or similar before they know the outcome of Alliance Wars can be at worst unpredictable. Also the co-ordination required for a mass attack is very difficult to get right. All you need is a couple of members to fail to log on at the right time and ...
My suggestion would be to leave it a little while - a few weeks - and see how things stand then.
Why dont we try to attack another alliance first to 'get into practice' :)
I have posted a copy of this in Spydah's Ally forum.
Phrede
June 5 2008 4:53 PM EDT
That last sentence was a JK by the way :)
spydah
June 5 2008 5:18 PM EDT
"and seeing as how we've got carnageblender pasted all over our WG stuff, i'm sure that even tho they're smart enough to be top in that game, they'll never think to keep an eye on us here (hmmm, if memory serves you don't even have to sign up to browse the wiki and forums?)
good thing they know where we stand. ;p"
which is why other secure forums exist...
/\88/\
AdminG Beee
June 5 2008 5:22 PM EDT
You don't need to worry about them seeing it by posting it in the ally forum on spydah.com.
Given that a large part of my motivation for joining WG was to spread the gospel that is CB, I've already invited the half dozen or so that I talk with to start playing Carnage Blender.
They're probably reading this post right now :)
Yeah, f'real.
Let's work towards destroying Crimson Braves first. I don't want to try to plot out the locations of all the members of all the top clans all at once; I'd rather take it one at a time. Next, we can move on to something else that isn't allied with our allies (maybe another NAP-treaty people). Maybe PFF if KOR has a falling-out with them for some reason or another.
Phrede
June 5 2008 5:23 PM EDT
I also think KoR are a really nice bunch of people and we should never attack them - never do you hear - never.
Seriously we should definitely keep these posts off CB and on Spydah - everyone should try and get registered on his forum.
Well, I believe I was informed wrongly. I was told that when there is an NAP in place, allies of the NAP can also not attack. If that's true, then my statement is also true, if not, I was misinformed and I apologize.
Also, just for the record, I have never proposed an attack on KOR ^_^ I have nothing against them at all :)
AdminG Beee
June 5 2008 5:34 PM EDT
I'm surprised an Admin hasn't closed this thread down and considered it spam anyway...
Bartman
June 5 2008 5:42 PM EDT
LOL, Yeah.... You never know about them admins...:)
Phrede
June 5 2008 5:48 PM EDT
CB Admins are real brutes sometimes - unlike the KoR people who are really friendly, especially the really strong ones.
reply 900! no really when is an admin going to close this one?
Phrede
June 5 2008 6:00 PM EDT
Maybe now :)
j'bob
June 5 2008 6:13 PM EDT
nope... how bout... NOW
Hakai, it's not because they have a NAP with them, that we have a NAP with them.
What you said is true for allies of allies, their allies, although not our direct allies, are our allies too.
However, for NAP, every alliance is on themselves. If we attack an alliance who has a NAP standing with our allies, it's free game. Depending on what they want, they can uphold their NAP and leave us doing our thing. And they will most likely stay out of it unless they get attacked first by our enemy, their NAP, in which case the NAP is broken and everybody starts pummeling the enemy.
Anyway, that's how I know NAP's to be.
Phrede
June 5 2008 6:26 PM EDT
I think that is correct Ling
AdminG Beee
June 5 2008 6:33 PM EDT
NAP and Alliance are two different things.
NAP = Non-Aggression Pact. Think USSR - USA back in the 80's.
It means you agree not to attack each other - it's like a flag of truce and really only means peace until someone blows it...
Alliance = friendly relationship. Think UK - USA.
You stand together and if there's a call to arms you're there for each other. That's the deal we have with KoR.
KoR has a similar deal with two other alliances (I listed them in a post previously) but everyone else is fair game to us.
Can you imagine the UK going to war with the USA if Ronald Reagan had declared war on Russia back in the 80's - of course not.
Can you imagine KoR going to war with the Carnage Blender alliance if we go declare war on Crimson Braves - of course not.
There ya go - simple really.
Bartman
June 5 2008 9:11 PM EDT
WOW!!! That WAS easy!
Thanks for clearing that up G! :)
I just finished the tutorial.
Huis' Village (310 / 215)
I have 11 raiding parties out right now. I think this will give me a greater resource return than I have been getting from splitting them up into 4 groups that all come back less than half full, but it's really tedious picking all these locations to attack. Is the plan to go to war with Crimson Braves official yet, or are we still pondering and debating and thinking about taking out the guy who hit Verifex? Because I need some targets to hit that have a high resource production (and maybe that can kill off some of these excess units I have :P)
Speaking of which, Freed, how has your neighbor been lately? Having many disagreements anymore?
QBOddBird
June 6 2008 12:29 AM EDT
Beee - sounds like right now we are USSR and they are USA + UK + Germany + Canada or something (not including the French) because they have allies and we have....?
Axis and allies. my friend. axis and allies.
(I really have no idea what I am talking about. ...mmmmm.... donut... mmmmm.)
"Seriously we should definitely keep these posts off CB and on Spydah - everyone should try and get registered on his forum."
I highly agree with the contents of this reply, therefore, I am quoting it.
spydah
June 6 2008 9:57 AM EDT
For those of you in AoDs alliance, and possibly himself, if you want to reg on the forums, that is fine, but I need a note from him saying that yes, you are in the alliance.
But do sign on up.
/\88/\
Foxth
June 6 2008 10:04 AM EDT
give me a head ups on it lol, I love destruction. Not a fox for nothing i can cook up bit of trouble.
I wonder if this post is the first that will hit 1000 replies :) what is the record anyway?
i need to say what? if ppl from my alliance want to join your site then i wont stop them
still got plenty of space left
Bartman
June 6 2008 7:27 PM EDT
Spydah is going to check with you on all members whose name he doesn't recognize to find out if they are in your alliance. He checks with me regularly so we can moderate who has access to our forum threads.
You probably want to join Spydah's forum so you can stay up to date on all that's going on with our alliance.
QBOddBird
June 7 2008 9:11 AM EDT
by your buildings. If your building consumes 3 food, you get 3 score.
Don't bother with score.
***********************UPDATE*************************
A few members from Crimson Braves are wanting to go to war with us. I just got a message from their diplomat, who is trying to avoid the conflict. Please go read my post in Spydah's forum for the whole message sent to me.
It is under the Alliance/NAP section in the Crimson Braves thread made by me and it has to do with PainKiller attacking one of their members...
Phrede
June 7 2008 11:43 AM EDT
Cant see it in SPydah's forum under that listing :(
QBRanger
June 7 2008 11:43 AM EDT
We all really need to use Spydah's forums and keep strategy chat there.
Freed, it's in the "Crimson Braves Request..." thread.
It's under the Alliance - NAP forum section...let me know if you are still unable to see it...
Bartman
June 7 2008 11:57 AM EDT
You're right on track Hakai!
We need all alliance members to check the thread and post the requested info.
thanks
Phrede
June 7 2008 12:01 PM EDT
sorry - found it :) So it looks like war then :(
QBOddBird
June 7 2008 12:06 PM EDT
Important!
If you are a member of the CB alliance or 2nd alliance in WG, please GO SIGN UP to spydah's WG forums so you can read them.
Any negotiations with other alliances or preparations for wars with other alliances are posted THERE not here so that only we can see them, so you NEED to sign up to be of use in any war effort.
Thanks you very much.
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