CB2 takes OVER (in Off-topic)

QBOddBird May 7 2008 1:43 PM EDT

Gun discovered a new game, started just today, called Wild Guns! and we as a CB2 community are going to TAKE OVER.

As of right now, there are a goodly number of CB'ers who have started, and we intend to form an in-game alliance and beat out all competition.

Currently playing are:

Come help us take the game over! We're all gathering on Server 4.


Edit: Steps to Register for Spydah's WG Forum:
1. Go to http://www.spydah.com/forums/
2. Sign up. You will not see anything when you first sign up. This is to prevent people not in the CB alliance from seeing the forums.
3. Message Spydah on CB or on Wild Guns with the user name you used to sign up on the forum website.
4. Spydah will add you to the list, and then post away!

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 7 2008 1:44 PM EDT

yay! Come join us! ^_^

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] May 7 2008 1:50 PM EDT

What nation? or doesn't it matter? :/

QBOddBird May 7 2008 1:52 PM EDT

Doesn't matter what nation you choose :) Just make sure you choose Server 4 so you can come find us and join up to conquer the WORLD

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] May 7 2008 1:53 PM EDT

Eh. Bored already. In tut and it's taking 9 minutes to build one of my two farms.. Gah...

8DEOTWP May 7 2008 3:21 PM EDT

I'm building up Roorsdale

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] May 7 2008 3:22 PM EDT

29 minutes to build a granery. And not being able to build (and therefore do anything else) in the meantime. No thanks...

QBOddBird May 7 2008 3:24 PM EDT

Awwww. =(

Well, it's a fun combination with CB2 for me :)

BluBBen May 7 2008 4:02 PM EDT

I'm in!

Username : BluBBen (of curse)

Xenko May 7 2008 4:20 PM EDT

I've started. We'll see if I get bored. Name is Xenko.

Tyriel [123456789] May 7 2008 6:02 PM EDT

I think I'll try it, too. Doesn't look promising, considering games I've tried before and didn't like. One stands out specifically. Looks practically exactly like Wild Guns (hopefully it's not as bad as I found the other one).

I'll probably quit before the week's over, but... eh. Why not?

Tyriel [123456789] May 7 2008 6:26 PM EDT

Yeah, I'm bored already. It's the exact same as another game I've played (and hated). Everything takes too long, and nothing really interests me in it.

drudge May 7 2008 6:30 PM EDT

*number being dialed* hello? waaambulance? i've got an emergency! tyriel needs help! stat!

AdminQBVerifex May 7 2008 6:45 PM EDT

I'll check it out when I get home.. This better not be another crappy game that sucks.

Obscurans May 7 2008 7:02 PM EDT

Another gameforge spinout? Ogame was the only good one they ever put out, and that's slowly dying. All they do these days is use the exact same system and put a new GUI/theme over it.

Mikel [Bring it] May 7 2008 7:20 PM EDT

I'm in.

Building up my Main building right now, which I think people should build up first. It takes a while, but chops your buildings times down.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 7 2008 7:24 PM EDT

Yeah but the building times don't matter when you don't have any resources to build with....

Mikel [Bring it] May 7 2008 7:25 PM EDT

Oh yea, how often does your supplies regenerate? Every 10 minutes? I couldn't find that anywhere in the game, and that would sure be helpful to calculate what needs to be done when.

hzarb May 7 2008 7:31 PM EDT

Giving it a shot... looks boring but will try & stick it for a while..

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 7 2008 7:34 PM EDT

Well, from what I gather, you get whatever the (+#) per hour, though it goes up little by little throughout the hour.

Someone please correct me, if I misunderstand how it works...

Soxjr May 7 2008 7:39 PM EDT

it's the number per hour. but it adds up like... 24 per hour would be 4 every 6 minutes. or 1 every 1 minute 30 seconds.

8DEOTWP May 7 2008 7:40 PM EDT

Resources are more important than building your main up initially.

ActionAction May 7 2008 7:41 PM EDT

Count me in :).

Darkwalker [Jago] May 8 2008 12:01 AM EDT

Do we have a CB alliance yet?

I am Zandagarth in 168, 212

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 8 2008 12:03 AM EDT

I haven't had the chance to build an Embassy yet. Currently we have no alliance, but I am at 196|225

Daz May 8 2008 12:15 AM EDT

/me smoke signals, "DazS reporting for duty."

QBOddBird May 8 2008 12:17 AM EDT


Phrede May 8 2008 12:56 AM EDT

Im in as Freed at 201/162

Wizard'sFirstRule May 8 2008 1:44 AM EDT

I am in.

celsis May 8 2008 2:36 AM EDT

I am in with the same name

MonkeyMandate [Wasting Time] May 8 2008 3:01 AM EDT

i'm playing as well as LightningRaider at 251 / 141

Daz May 8 2008 3:09 AM EDT

139 / 241

Tutorial isn't going to get finished until tomorrow, as far as I can tell. It's going to take ages to get the resources...

Eccle123 May 8 2008 3:18 AM EDT

Well i've started playing a quite fun game called "12 sky". Its completely free, rather addictive and the graphics are good. Anyone else play?

Mastodont May 8 2008 3:59 AM EDT

Username: Mastodont
City: Death valley (173 / 172)

The Pope [Serenity In Chaos] May 8 2008 6:49 AM EDT

playing.... The Pope.... that be me...

Mikel [Bring it] May 8 2008 7:40 AM EDT

What part of the Tutorial are you in? And yes, it's best to follow it for the Resource award instead of branching out and doing your own thing.

I'm at the part where I need to build:
1 Hideout, 1 Ramport & 5 Farmers (Hideout and 2 farmers on the way).
Hopefully I"ll be able to do the rest after I get home from work tonight, but the farmers take about 40 minutes each, so I would suggest making them asap.

Is anyone else past that point in the Tutorial?

{CB1} DeFiAnT [Jago] May 8 2008 7:54 AM EDT

I'm in!!

(CB1) DeFiAnT

[RX3]Cotillion May 8 2008 9:00 AM EDT

RedX3s village (221 / 149)

Depth into Tut: Expand 2 woodcutter`s huts, 2 iron mines and 2 clay pits by one level!

Only have one Iron mine expanded and working on 1st clay pit expansion.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 8 2008 9:15 AM EDT

im in

Xenko May 8 2008 9:31 AM EDT

I'm at the same spot as RX3.

InebriatedArsonist May 8 2008 9:39 AM EDT

Seeing as the manual isn't terribly illuminating, does anyone know what the booze trek unit actually does? It would seem that it possesses the ability to completely capture a village, but I'm hoping I'm wrong on that.

{CB1} DeFiAnT [Jago] May 8 2008 9:47 AM EDT

forgot to list my coords: 260/145

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 8 2008 9:53 AM EDT

AngelOfDeaths village (129 / 239)
this is my little village

celsis May 8 2008 9:58 AM EDT

forgot my cords as well here is mine

CeslisHaven (130/236)

Xenko May 8 2008 9:58 AM EDT

To clarify, I meant I am at the same spot in the tutorial as RX3.
My location is 212/253.

deifeln May 8 2008 10:12 AM EDT

deifeln 186/120

deifeln May 8 2008 10:16 AM EDT

Mikel is in 2nd place :o)

Levon [Clocked Out] May 8 2008 10:48 AM EDT

Levon, Topeka (198, 126)

Lochnivar May 8 2008 10:58 AM EDT

just so I'm on the record:

Dos Cervezas (234 / 136)

I was Dignifried Bean May 8 2008 11:03 AM EDT

I'm in Senor.
wrathless - village (183 / 126)

Spellcheck does not like it when I put wrath and less together

deifeln May 8 2008 11:09 AM EDT

wrathless...we're on the same map page. we should probable coordinate early on.

AdminG Beee May 8 2008 1:07 PM EDT

Jacobyte: (276/182)

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 8 2008 1:52 PM EDT

For those just starting, after the 2 farms make 1 or 2 clays off the bat.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 8 2008 1:56 PM EDT

Also, be sure to activate your account. There is a rumor floating around on the forums that if you don't, your account will be deleted after 7 days. Better safe than sorry!

The activation can be resent, and often shows up in the spam folder.

AdminLamuness May 8 2008 2:22 PM EDT

No activation link was sent. Used the "Resend activation" feature. Still nothing in the email.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 8 2008 2:29 PM EDT

Lammy, it's not in your "Spam" folder?

Which @____.com are you using?

And for all those wondering how, just click on "Settings" to find where you can activate your account.

AdminLamuness May 8 2008 3:07 PM EDT


deifeln May 8 2008 3:16 PM EDT

I also do not see my link (also hotmail)

Bartman May 8 2008 3:18 PM EDT

I'm in as well. Bartman (go figure) is my account.

I'm having the same problem with activation. I'm using earthlink and it doesn't seem to receive the email. It not in my spam folder either. Anyone have a solution?

Soxjr May 8 2008 3:21 PM EDT

i would say to change the settings on your spam to accept mail from this place. and then it should go in your regular mail maybe? i don't know

deifeln May 8 2008 3:27 PM EDT

It isn't in my spam folder either

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 8 2008 3:31 PM EDT

Apparently, hotmail isn't working out that well. It has been suggested that you use either Yahoo! or Gmail for the activation, but who knows.

deifeln May 8 2008 3:37 PM EDT

I just switched to gmail and it works. This kinda' sucks 'cause I use my hotmail acct. for gaming and such to reduce crap emails I get on my gmail

drudge May 8 2008 3:56 PM EDT

drudge's village is
40oz to freedom x:167 y:188
reppin la raza

Xenko May 8 2008 3:56 PM EDT

Yeah it isn't getting through hotmail. G-mail works fine.

IndependenZ May 8 2008 4:16 PM EDT

Okay you guys have convinced me, so I started playing as well. I'm already playing too many webgames as it is though, so we'll see how long I'll last.

Sergeant Bromsnor is my name, and my coordinates are 121/176. :)

AdminLamuness May 8 2008 4:22 PM EDT

Guess I'll stop playing. ;p That's really lame a game restricts which email you can use. Especially in this day and age.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 8 2008 4:51 PM EDT

Lamu, I don't think it is intentional :(

Don't leave us!!!

Bartman May 8 2008 5:49 PM EDT

I've tried changing my email but it won't let me until I activate my account. Frustrating!!!!

Bartman May 8 2008 5:50 PM EDT

Bartz Town at:

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 8 2008 5:50 PM EDT

I joined to see, Im HenkBres in 228/102

Lochnivar May 8 2008 6:03 PM EDT

Lamu... it didn't work for me originally
(the original registration link only took very little info from me)

I have, however, since registered successfully and that is using my hotmail account.

j'bob May 8 2008 6:07 PM EDT

drudge's village is 40oz to freedom x:167 y:188 reppin la raza homage to brad! "mucho gust, me llamo bradley"

Bartman May 8 2008 6:33 PM EDT

I'm hoping to build my embassy in the next 24 hours or so. When I do, I'll create an alliance called Carnage and we can all join.

Sound good?

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 8 2008 6:38 PM EDT

Well, apparently there is a cap of how many can join an alliance per level of Embassy.

I only know that someone posted you can have 9 members @ level 3 Embassy, but that is not confirmed yet.

We may have to have mini-alliances until we get big enough to have 1 huge alliance.

[RX3]Cotillion May 8 2008 7:07 PM EDT

The way I took it is that if you want to join an alliance, you must have an embassy. To create your own, you must have a level 3 embassy.

So, start building your embassy's people....

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] May 8 2008 8:02 PM EDT

icydragons village (281 / 178)

having trouble with activation e-mail also, have tried 4 different providers and hasn't appeared at any yet but I'll still be playing now and then.

Bartman May 8 2008 8:16 PM EDT

I finally sent a message to an admin. We'll see if I get a response.

deifeln May 8 2008 8:31 PM EDT

Let's wait a few days before building an embassy. Just focus on resources for another day or two.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 8 2008 8:36 PM EDT

I agree. Besides that, we will need multiple Alliances at the moment, which means we'll have to split in groups.

This is something that should be done once we have a strong enough foothold and plenty of resources/defense.

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 8 2008 9:57 PM EDT

I'm on there, as ColonelCustard. My village is at coordinates 143,145.

dj1914 May 8 2008 10:20 PM EDT

dj1914 126/264

ActionAction May 8 2008 10:28 PM EDT

A!A!: 154, 162
OB: 195,180
Wolfy: 196,181
Hakai: 196,225
Xenko: 212,253
Gun: 185, 214
Loch: 234,136
Freed: 201,162
Bartman: 140, 207
RX3: 221, 149
G_Bee: 276, 182
Defiant: 260, 145
AoD: 129, 239
Celsis: 130, 236
Deifeln: 186, 120
Wrathless: 183, 126
Henk: 228, 102
Drudge: 167, 188
ColonelCustard: 143, 145
Zoglog: 281, 178
Independenz: 121, 176
Darkwalker: 168, 212
LightningRaider: 251, 141
Daz: 139, 241
Mastodont: 173, 172

Did I miss anyone?

Gigan May 8 2008 10:35 PM EDT

I'm in as Gigan.

My town is Crow's Gulch (287 / 242).

8DEOTWP May 8 2008 11:43 PM EDT

Roorsdale (156 , 195)

8DEOTWP May 8 2008 11:49 PM EDT

does anyone know why there are a few words in German? the makers seemed to be Asian..

Soxjr May 8 2008 11:59 PM EDT

you missed me :)

Mikel [Bring it] May 9 2008 12:57 AM EDT

Mikels village (255 / 163)

Phrede May 9 2008 1:46 AM EDT

I was about to suggest that someone make a list - well done. Who ever is ahead of the game should create and upgrade their embassies anyone joining the alliance should also donate stuff to help upgrade the main embassy. If it works anything like Travian did - yes there is a limit to each alliance but you can then form secondary alliances and on the main alliance page mention that attacking any secondary alliance will bring down the wrath of all. We will send out AoD to Reap a few souls :)

QBOddBird May 9 2008 3:12 AM EDT

Hah! I'm all proud of myself for being #4, and then I see Bartman is #3!

BootyGod May 9 2008 3:20 AM EDT

Currently 6th here, Gun 7th, Hakai 12th.

IndependenZ May 9 2008 4:07 AM EDT

As I see it, we are already taking over. There are almost no alliances formed yet, and if we team up we'll instantly reign supreme :P

{cb1}Linguala May 9 2008 4:35 AM EDT

Lingualas village (248 / 285)

hehe, slow game though, takes forever to get raws...

InebriatedArsonist May 9 2008 7:09 AM EDT

Hayek Junction (126 / 235)

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 9 2008 8:34 AM EDT

Here's a quick way to rule them all...

Wood 80 | Clay 70 | Iron 120 |Grain 70 | Worker Slots(Score gain) 4

Only Iron is in triple digits. Good score gain. Leads to this.
If the six or so more of us who fight for top 20 partly specialize in one resource each. Could form a short term trading syndicate to cover each other leap frog style to get tutorial rewards and share part of the profit with trading partners in succession or simply forward each growth with the excess. In order to cover more ground which we can't otherwise wait for. This is also a fun way to plan. This thinking would work best with GW & OB.
Would 3 persons working +48 while 3 others work +15 grain to be more efficient than the xenophobia we have now? We don't even need embassies for contact.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 9 2008 8:39 AM EDT

Oops. Forgot to mention that's the market building for us indian.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 9 2008 9:15 AM EDT

Well, I can try this to see how it goes. I don't have my marketplace up yet, but my current stats are:

Wood 195 (+32) | Clay 175 (+32) | Iron 136 (+28) | Food 94 (+13) Food consumption 49/62 Approval Rating 100%

I have 3 lvl 2 wood, 2 lvl 2 Iron, 3 lvl 2 clay, 3 lvl 2 food, and 2 lvl 3 food.

I have 0 archers at the moment, but I have completed all the other steps of the tutorial to that point.

(The time is 9:12 a.m. server time)

{CB1}stingiestbard [why] May 9 2008 9:35 AM EDT

Please add me to the list.
Stingiestbards village (237 / 196)

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 9 2008 10:20 AM EDT

Got one and jumped to 3rd.

Sent Hakai 70 wood & 70 clay to tide her over from using nuggets. Only took 1hr 15mins.
Let this be known for direct sending: You can send raw materials only to your own villages and the ones belonging to members of your alliance.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 9 2008 11:18 AM EDT

Sweet, it worked.

FYI, when you get a delivery, the "messages" box glows blue, then you go into "trading reports."

The subject is "Raw materials were delivered" and inside it says: A merchant arrived from Loaded Rifle and delivers the following goods, then lists the resources and how much of each.

IndependenZ May 9 2008 11:31 AM EDT

So... I've read that an alliance can hold up to nine members. But I haven't found anything about the benefits of an alliance. Why bother when you can send materials to eachother anyway?

Maybe we should put the list above in our Wild Guns-profile, just to scare people off. "Proud members of CB2" :P

deifeln May 9 2008 1:16 PM EDT

If clans max out at nine, we should from strategic groups on nine (resource specific/production specific members) . Obviously, there would be implied collusion between groups (no attacking).

Perhaps adding a [CB] tag to the beginning of each clan name would make this easier. Also, would be nice if all of our clans were in the top clan point spaces :o)

AdminLamuness May 9 2008 2:10 PM EDT

Village: Nibelheim
Coordinates: 263, 155

QBOddBird May 9 2008 2:15 PM EDT

Clans maxing out at 9?

I hadn't heard of such a thing. We can just make multiple CB2 clans though :)

Xenko May 9 2008 2:48 PM EDT

I think alliances start with a maximum of 9 members when your embassy is level 3. As your embassy level increases, the number of members allowed also increases.

Mikel [Bring it] May 9 2008 3:11 PM EDT

I've started an Embassy, I'll build a market later tonight.

chuck1234 May 9 2008 3:24 PM EDT

[CB]chuckville (202 / 245)

just started playing and am still in beginner's protection mode

IndependenZ May 9 2008 3:30 PM EDT

ActionAction: 154/162
Aeris: 263/155 (Lamuness)
AngelOfDeath: 129/239
Bartman: 140/207
celsis: 130/236
ColonelCustard: 143/145
Daz: 139/241
DeFiAnT: 260/145
deifeln: 186/120
drudge: 167/188
Freed: 201/162
Gigan: 287/242
Godwolf: 196/181
Gun: 185/214
Hakai: 196/225
HenkBres: 228/102
InebriatedArsonist: 126/235
icydragon: 281/178 (Zoglog)
Jacobyte: 276/182 (G_Beee)
Jahroor: 156/195
LightningRaider: 251/141
Linguala: 248/285
Lochnivar: 234/136
Mastodont: 173/172
Mikel: 255/163
OddBird: 195/180
RedX3: 221/149
Sergeant Bromsnor: 121/176 (IndependenZ)
Stingiestbard: 237/196
The Pope
wrathless: 183/126
Xenko: 212/253
Zandagarth: 168/212 (Darkwalker)

Here's a updated list. The first name is the name a person uses in Wild Guns, the numbers are the coordinates of the town, and the name in brackets is the name that person uses in CB. Please, feel free to add the information I'm missing or forgot :)

Too many misspelled words are driving me crazy. Names are very hard for the CB spellcheck. And since I don't feel like adding <br> tags everywhere, I am inserting this little piece of text. My apologies if you read this thing.

[RX3]Cotillion May 9 2008 3:42 PM EDT

Why not just make a docs.google spreadsheet? It'd be much easier than the way it's being done now I'd think.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 9 2008 7:16 PM EDT

"I think alliances start with a maximum of 9 members when your embassy is level 3. As your embassy level increases, the number of members allowed also increases." This is correct.

Indeed we don't need to waste raws to be cool...yet. Don't care if you list us in your profile, I'm still laughing at my last invite from TheBestPlayersofWildGuns. When we started playing said it would be a race to start the ally, first one there runs it. That goes for all.
Ally names would be close to [CB2NADs] Carnage Blender Native American Division. ;)

QBOddBird May 9 2008 7:31 PM EDT

Hehe, we -could- have an Indian, Mexican, and Cowboy alliance.

InebriatedArsonist May 9 2008 8:01 PM EDT

I vote for Carnage Blender Treaty Organization (CBTO).

8DEOTWP May 9 2008 8:13 PM EDT

I vote for ACBF Allied Carnage Blender Forces

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 9 2008 8:24 PM EDT

Who ever makes it, takes it. :P

[RX3]Cotillion May 10 2008 12:08 AM EDT

Anyone know how to increase raw food material income? I have 2 farms at 3 and 2 at 2 but it's still +5.

[RX3]Cotillion May 10 2008 12:11 AM EDT

Nevermind. Found out for my self... Have to build a Mill, which requires a level 5 farm.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 10 2008 12:15 AM EDT

You don't have to wait that long. If you upgrade your farm a couple times in a row WITHOUT building anything in between, your +# will go up. Whenever you build something besides your farm, it lowers the +#.

So upgrade 1 or 2 farms, Let that build up a bit, then build whatever you want later. This is the most effective way I have found so far.

I currently have 4 farms at level 3. I have completely abandoned everything but making farms for the moment. It's proving to be quite helpful.

InebriatedArsonist May 10 2008 12:17 AM EDT

Yeah, wheat is a serious choke point as far as raw materials are concerned. It looks like any decent building strategy will have to account for building and unit upkeep with increased food production compared to the other materials.

[RX3]Cotillion May 10 2008 12:17 AM EDT

Is it supposed to be that way or is it a glitch? ... Either way, wish I'd have known about it before.

InebriatedArsonist May 10 2008 12:30 AM EDT

I'm sure the game accurately reflects the intentions of creators, Entreri. One of my favorite games, Master of Magic used a somewhat similar system for food production and upkeep. You just have to plan ahead.

Bartman May 10 2008 8:23 AM EDT

I just checked the top scores. We have 9 players in the top 100 right now. If we all join the same alliance, we are definitely in the top spot.

BluBBen May 10 2008 9:37 AM EDT

My town: BluBBen x:167 y:162

Bartman May 10 2008 11:07 AM EDT

Alliance is up and open. I could only invite 8 so far but that'll change when I expand again. We'll see how fast we can rise to the top of the chart!

winner winner May 10 2008 11:25 AM EDT

i'm in like 7500 place

AdminG Beee May 10 2008 11:25 AM EDT

Sheeze, I made a couple of poor build choices and am now having to wait a day for my food reserves to build up enough for me to do anything else...

I can't trade/receive until I have a Market place ?

AbbathorX May 10 2008 11:35 AM EDT

Fear me. Ranked #1178.

AbbathorXs village (175 / 263).

So everyone needs a marketplace and embassy to be able to contribute yes?

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 10 2008 11:36 AM EDT

G_Beee, you can receive. I have not yet built my marketplace, but Gun managed to send me some clay and wood anyway.

deifeln May 10 2008 11:37 AM EDT

Don't woory about building an embassy until the end of your 'protection'. Just focus on resources.

AdminG Beee May 10 2008 11:39 AM EDT

Well, I can't do anything until my food resource builds up.

Might as well go to the pub :)

Adminedyit [Superheros] May 10 2008 12:36 PM EDT

edyits village (122 / 267)

Darkwalker [Jago] May 10 2008 1:30 PM EDT

Bartman, I have accepted your invitation and have joined your alliance. What resource do you want me to focus on? ......We should all focus on a particular resource to maximise our potential.....

I have 2 lvl 3 and 3 lvl 2 food (adding more soon), 3 lvl 2 wood n clay n 2 lvl 2 iron..... Let me know which 1 of the 3 resource I should focus. ( wood, clay n iron)

I m in the train 5 farmer part of the tutorial. Cheers!

Bartman May 10 2008 1:36 PM EDT

Welcome Zan!

You get a bonus on resources when you finish the tutorial so finishing that should be your first goal.

Food is going to be the short pole in the tent for all of us so that's where you should focus your efforts after the tutorial.

IndependenZ May 10 2008 1:50 PM EDT

Two members, and you're already in sixth of the top alliances, lol. Nice job! lol

I started a new account in the sixth server, as a Mexican. They're great fun too :D

Mikel [Bring it] May 10 2008 2:33 PM EDT

I just accepted your invitation :)

Alliance is 3rd Strongest now.
And only 3 of us in it.

Mikel [Bring it] May 10 2008 2:37 PM EDT

And yes, everyone should focus on Farms.
I have 3 Level 3, 3 Level 2, and all other resources are Level 2 (Iron, Clay and Wood).

And my Protection doesn't end until another 4 1/2 days.

Levon [Clocked Out] May 10 2008 2:40 PM EDT

i agree with the farms... i just discovered it as a weakness

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 10 2008 3:34 PM EDT

I'm producing +17 food, currently. I could join the alliance, if you guys want me to. How do I do that, by the way?

[RX3]Cotillion May 10 2008 3:54 PM EDT

Sorry Bart, couldn't join. I don't have an embassy yet.

Mikel [Bring it] May 10 2008 4:12 PM EDT

In order to join, you must have an Embassy level 1.
Post here and/or let Bartman know you have one so he can invite you.
But more importantly, keep those Farms and resources coming in. Don't worry about following the Tutorial too much.

If you have your resources coming in at a good rate, you'll fly thru a few of the tutorial Requirements.

First level: Build up 2 farms to level 2
Second Level: Build Storage for Raw Materials and a Granary
Third: Get 2 Iron, 2 wood and 2 clay up to Level 2
Forth: Build Barracks, up Main to level 3
Fifth: Train X Units, and Build a Hideout and Up your Rampart to level 1

That is if I recall it all correctly. The Hideout might be in the wrong spot.

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] May 10 2008 4:22 PM EDT

hideout is right, i'm at the last step but need to concentrate on food for a couple of days

winner winner May 10 2008 4:28 PM EDT

How long does the whole tutorial take?

8DEOTWP May 10 2008 4:40 PM EDT

As long as it takes to follow it, but it rewards well.

BootyGod May 10 2008 5:40 PM EDT

Building embassy now. I'll be in it soon =D

winner winner May 10 2008 5:48 PM EDT

what do i get for finishing the tutorial?

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 10 2008 6:01 PM EDT


Did you read the bottom of the tutorial page?

"After finishing the tutorial, you receive a premium account and increased raw material production for one week!"

In addition to that, for each step you complete you are awarded resources as a bonus.

winner winner May 10 2008 6:19 PM EDT

yeah, i was talking about the resource bonus

Soxjr May 10 2008 8:00 PM EDT

definately are why you want your resourses high before you finish last step of tutorial.

On the alliance there is a forum area. i have posted a welcome and also if you post needing anything that maybe we can work tegether... lets test this out. click your embasy then click to alliance. then there is a forum link for those in the alliance that want to check it out

[RX3]Cotillion May 10 2008 8:17 PM EDT

It seems like I always have a short supply of clay as well... I should have been the Mexican's or something.

winner winner May 10 2008 8:20 PM EDT

I'm running out of clay and i'm mexican

Lochnivar May 10 2008 9:35 PM EDT

I have a shiny new embassy... if only I had somewhere to belong (pretty please)

8DEOTWP May 10 2008 9:41 PM EDT

I'm JahMex on S6, and JahReds on S5 if anyone wants to start an alliance.

{CB1} DeFiAnT [Jago] May 10 2008 11:27 PM EDT

By Monday, I hope to have an embassy built and be ready to join the alliance.

[RX3]Cotillion May 10 2008 11:36 PM EDT

Just joined the CB 1 alliance.

Bartman May 10 2008 11:46 PM EDT

I'm looking to expand my embassy tomorrow. When I do, I'll be able to take more members.

Daz May 11 2008 12:28 AM EDT

Wow, this game is slow. I havent yet worked out if thats a good thing or not.

[LittleRed]Calynne May 11 2008 1:32 AM EDT

Well... I wont be playing it. For some reason my computer errors every time I try to do anything... o.O

Phrede May 11 2008 2:03 AM EDT

I just joined :)

Mikel [Bring it] May 11 2008 4:18 AM EDT

For those of you just joining, pump your farms up heavily.
I am making quite a bit of food per hour now, and I have a level 2 Market (and will continue to grow it and my farms) so I use that to get the best deals from people that want food.

You can easily get better than a 1:1 ratio. Food seems to be vastly under rated in this game until you get going and then you realize you need tons more.

For example, I just traded 100 Food for 140 Logs, and before that I traded 100 food for 120 Iron.

{cb1}Linguala May 11 2008 4:41 AM EDT

yep, food really is hard to come by.
Pump your farms up every time you get below 100 food...

As for the real reason, we're late with forming an alliance.
I'm already seeing several alliances showing up and gaining members.
Currently doing the last task, only need to build 5 farmers and I'm ready.
After that, I will begin building the embassy as fast as I can.

I'm still counting 3 days though...(could this game be any slower?)

8DEOTWP May 11 2008 4:52 AM EDT

you'll be glad it goes slow when you're getting raided :)

Darkwalker [Jago] May 11 2008 5:01 AM EDT

Ok guys....for those who have finished the tutorials....what's next? troops or trade?

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 11 2008 5:04 AM EDT

there im ready to get invited in the guild

winner winner May 11 2008 6:42 AM EDT

so, should I keep my other raw materials at lvl 2 and pump my food?

Bartman May 11 2008 7:42 AM EDT

Yes, Food seems to be the resource that slows growth.

AdminG Beee May 11 2008 8:24 AM EDT

You shouldn't just go for food without first thinking about what you're trying to build next. Also, I think each class has a slightly different ratio of what's needed when.

It's really a case of working out what you're looking to build and then some simple arithmetic.

My next requirement is to "build" a further 3 'Poncho's' (Mexican soldiers).

To do so I need a sum total of 480 iron, 390 wood, 345 clay and 180 food.

Knowing your refresh rate means you can see what you should really be working on. It's going to take me 1090 mins to get what I need on iron and only 540 mins to get what I need for food.

Should I bite the bullet and build another iron mine to actually complete my Poncho's quicker than if I were just to do the soldiers first..?
Yes, I should. My refresh rate on iron will increase enough to justify an iron mine being built and I should actually end up completing my 3 Poncho's quicker...

Should I look beyond my 3 soldiers to what the next building is and understand the food requirements for that too. Of course, but I can't be bothered...

I still like the game though :)

AdminG Beee May 11 2008 8:26 AM EDT

In saying that, the food refresh rate doesn't appear to stay constant but actually drops. Must remember to keep an eye on that...

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 11 2008 8:32 AM EDT

It drops when you build. But if you have food built up over time, the impact is less. That's how I see it anyway...

But G_Beee is right, building up your food while ignoring everything else is senseless, as someone will just come and take it. Don't forget to keep an eye on when your protection is over...

Bartman May 11 2008 8:43 AM EDT

That's a good point Hakai. Once the resources were under control, I built an academy to train soldiers. I'll be training soldiers as soon as I upgrade my embassy.

AdminG Beee May 11 2008 8:46 AM EDT

Does it drop +1 every time you build something ?

8DEOTWP May 11 2008 8:51 AM EDT

When you build something, it will show a crossed-out grain and a number - that's how much grain refresh the unit/building steals.

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 11 2008 9:01 AM EDT

Most things take one, yes. Farm upgrades and building the hideout take 0, and there are a couple things I've seen (building upgrades) that cost 2. It's shown in the building cost as
"Wood 325 | Clay 240 | Iron 350 | Food 50 | (crossed-out food symbol) 1"

winner winner May 11 2008 9:47 AM EDT

should I try to finish the tutorial or build up my resources?

AdminG Beee May 11 2008 10:03 AM EDT

I'd advise you finish the tutorial given that you get resource bonuses each time you complete a step.

spydah May 11 2008 10:31 AM EDT

DarkWeb (180 / 148)
Embassy will be ready in 30ish...


Xenko May 11 2008 11:29 AM EDT

So what could happen if you are attacked/raided? I assume resources can be taken, but can buildings be damaged/destroyed as well?

Mikel [Bring it] May 11 2008 12:05 PM EDT

Well you can build up how ever you want, but I just traded:
170 Food for 200 Clay, and 85 Food for 100 Iron. (One more level and I'll have a level 5 Farm and then I'll build a bakery for a nice food boost).

So GB is somewhat correct in not dismissing your other resources, but you can easily put a trade 100 for for some resources.

[RX3]Cotillion May 11 2008 12:57 PM EDT

80 (+20) Food consumption 59/79

Look at it like this. I am currently using 59 pieces of grain per hour, but producing 79 pieces per hour. So my profit is 20 pieces per hour.

Tezmac May 11 2008 2:05 PM EDT

Tezmacia (183 / 305)

(CB1)logan666 [Jago] May 11 2008 2:36 PM EDT

Logans Run(321/214)

Tezmac May 11 2008 2:57 PM EDT

So you have to be logged in for "game time" to go by?

Tezmac May 11 2008 2:57 PM EDT

Oops, looks like not, nevermind!

winner winner May 11 2008 3:58 PM EDT

is there a rule in wild guns that says I can't buy resources with stuff outside of the game?

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 11 2008 4:10 PM EDT

From what I understand, as long as you can send resources using the "send raw materials" function, it doesn't have to be an even trade...so I guess, yes, you can.

Phrede May 11 2008 5:01 PM EDT

Wonder what the cb$ exchange rate is for the various goods :)

Soxjr May 11 2008 5:11 PM EDT

i'll supply anything to anyone for some money to pay my debt here :P haha. j/k

8DEOTWP May 11 2008 5:57 PM EDT

recently traded 200 food for 280 clay, that's a Mikel-style deal ;P

winner winner May 11 2008 5:59 PM EDT

lol, I would do 1k-1.5k per resource.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 11 2008 6:04 PM EDT

Well, I traded 50 wood, 50 clay, 50 iron, and 50 food for 300k CBD. There's a starting point you guys can jump off of to set a standard.

8DEOTWP May 11 2008 6:12 PM EDT

WTB Raws

winner winner May 11 2008 6:23 PM EDT

are we allowed to ask to buy stuff here?

deifeln May 11 2008 7:12 PM EDT

I just sold 60 grain for 100 iron... :o)

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 11 2008 7:35 PM EDT

I'd like to ask to be included in the alliance. Coordinates: 143,145. Call me.

MonkeyMandate [Wasting Time] May 11 2008 7:42 PM EDT

just finished building my embassy

[RX3]Cotillion May 12 2008 12:04 AM EDT

Spread Sheet of Wild Gun Players

Lochnivar May 12 2008 1:49 AM EDT

nice list RX3,

just one note..
My screen name there is the same as here, my village is named dos cervezas.

Mikel [Bring it] May 12 2008 2:35 AM EDT

I"m saving up for my first mill right now ;)

{CB1}[umk]Fangs May 12 2008 3:52 AM EDT

well, I've given this a try as well... Just started an hour or so ago...
coordinates: 205 / 96

Phrede May 12 2008 4:03 AM EDT

We need to help Bartman with his Embassy so the alliance can take on more members. Also maybe Mikel or another advanced player should start upping his to start another alliance that has a non aggression treaty with all other CB alliances.

Bartman - what level is your embassy - and what mats do you need to up it a level or so ?

Wizard'sFirstRule May 12 2008 4:08 AM EDT

why can't I build more archers? can't I build units when some are out looting?

AdminG Beee May 12 2008 6:29 AM EDT

OK, I've finished the tutorial.

If I build an embassy will someone invite me? If there's no invites available I'll continue to harvest more raw materials and put in place preparations for when my protection finishes.

I'd rather join an alliance though - does anyone want me ? :)

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 12 2008 6:40 AM EDT

ok i've made a second alliance, anyone that wants to join cm me and i bartman let me know if you want to be allies with me

{cb1}Linguala May 12 2008 7:03 AM EDT

we already have 2 alliances...
An alliance can hold at least 60 people, so I'm sure we've got enough for now.
As for me, I've built my lvl1 embassy, just need an invitation to one of the alliances.

IndependenZ May 12 2008 7:06 AM EDT

Indeed, nice list RX3! Spreadsheets do work better :D

After getting a few farmers, my food output is finally enough to be able to build efficiently... I need to upgrade my rampart to finish this tutorial chapter. After that, I'm building an embassy and will try to join one of the CB alliances. Nice work on starting the second one, AoD!

Phrede May 12 2008 8:32 AM EDT

Bartman - do you need any help with the Embassy upgrades - we have many people waiting to join. Also I think it would be a good idea to allow someone else to help with the admin (preferably from a different time zone than the US).

Draugluin May 12 2008 10:38 AM EDT

Draugluins village (162 / 102)

Just joined, resources seem a mite slow

AdminG Beee May 12 2008 10:48 AM EDT

With all this resource making activity going on for raw materials, is anyone actually building military to help the alliance when we inevitably get raided ?

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 12 2008 10:55 AM EDT

im an indian so im building a huge force just to raid over and over.
Raiding is far more profitable then just building up your building. Attack some of those bandit villages in your sector to gain fast resources.

AdminG Beee May 12 2008 10:57 AM EDT

I'm still under protection so can't be attacked yet, I assume that means I can't attack either (I only have 5 basic units anyway).

What's the strat for attacking ? Can one class attack a different class only, or can it attack the same as itself?

I'm Mexican btw.

Tezmac May 12 2008 11:01 AM EDT

"Raiding is far more profitable then just building up your building. Attack some of those bandit villages in your sector to gain fast resources. "

I was wondering if this would be the case. Please, explain further!

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] May 12 2008 11:09 AM EDT

DrAcO5676s village (198 / 98)

QBOddBird May 12 2008 1:06 PM EDT

Beee - nope, you can attack whomever you'd like, except me. :)

And yeah, some of us are preparing our military. I've grown 10 archers and will be working on horsemen soon enough. ;'D

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 12 2008 1:22 PM EDT

Everyone knows that they can send out troops to raid the inactive (gray) camps, yes?

AdminG Beee May 12 2008 1:25 PM EDT

Do now...

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 12 2008 1:26 PM EDT

Yeah, apparently it takes no resources to do it, and it brings in quite a bit. I was not aware of it until about 5 minutes before I posted. ^_^

Tezmac May 12 2008 1:27 PM EDT

What the recommended minimum to send on a raid and come out ahead (subtracting out lost raiders)?

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 12 2008 1:29 PM EDT

Well, according to Gun, you don't lose any when raiding gray camps. He reccomends sending all of them. I send out 10 archers at a time. Make sure it is "Raid" though, not attack or back up. Also, be sure to click "OK" on the "meeting place" screen.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 12 2008 1:31 PM EDT

Don't keep an army on def. keep them on the move and farm those greys. lvl1 rampart & lvl1 hideout should be enough. If anyone attacks you post here.

Levon [Clocked Out] May 12 2008 1:34 PM EDT

for the ones who are out of protection already, were you attacked right away or did nobody figure it out

QBOddBird May 12 2008 1:37 PM EDT

oh crud, are we out of protection now?

Xenko May 12 2008 2:44 PM EDT

It should say on your settings screen whether you are still under protection or not, right at the very top.

Bartman May 12 2008 3:13 PM EDT

I just upgraded my embassy and sent out invites to:

I'll continue to add members as my embassy permits.

Angel of Death has an alliance with only 2 members. We need to grow that one as well.

QBOddBird May 12 2008 3:22 PM EDT

Geeez. My biggest goal: Eventually getting an Assembly Point. :P

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 12 2008 3:24 PM EDT

i can add 4 more peopel for now but still upgrading my embassy but people gone have to protect me incase people try to attack me since all my resources go to upgrading the alliance

Phrede May 12 2008 4:00 PM EDT

Guys - join AoD and get in TH alliance - we will own this.

I attacked a next door neighbour for the first time a while ago - lost one troops and got 50 of each material back - not good

winner winner May 12 2008 4:06 PM EDT

Serialkillers village (133 / 278)

winner winner May 12 2008 4:06 PM EDT

can I Join an alliance?

Bartman May 12 2008 4:29 PM EDT

Embassy upgrades allow me to add an 3 additional members to the clan per upgrade.

This is what I need for a level 5 embassy:

Wood 485 | Clay 350 | Stone 405 | Grain 215

I'm currently building resources at the following rate:

Wood (+45) | Clay (+45)| Stone (+52)| Grain (+9)

Any resources donated will go directly to the next embassy upgrade.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 12 2008 4:36 PM EDT

im also going for embassy 5 but im going to bed in few minutes so i can probebly get my embassy to lvl 7 tomorrow morning

AdminG Beee May 12 2008 4:43 PM EDT

I'll send you over 100 Grain as soon as I get my market place completed Bartman.

Soxjr May 12 2008 4:46 PM EDT

I'll send some mats to both of you. I have my resources pretty high right now.

I'll help as best I can.

QBRanger May 12 2008 4:55 PM EDT

Ranger Roost (194 / 317)

Seems I have no grey villages around me.

AdminG Beee May 12 2008 4:56 PM EDT

I wouldn't attack the greys anyway. You'll lose a troop or two and the rewards won't compensate. At least that's my experience...

Lochnivar May 12 2008 5:02 PM EDT

from to Arrival at Duration
Dos Cervezas Bartz Town 13.05.08 06:12 7:13:19

30 Wood
30 Clay
30 Iron
60 Food

not exactly lightning fast transport... If I'd known it took so long I would have sent more.... ah well

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 12 2008 5:03 PM EDT

how many alliances do we have now? And which one could i join?

Soxjr May 12 2008 5:05 PM EDT

I agree with bee. I did a raid, and unlike on Travian where if you raid someone and they don't have units none of yours die... here it seems they can. and that makes it not worth it.

QBRanger May 12 2008 5:19 PM EDT

Q: when it says xxx production, how long is the interval this production occurs?

Every 20 min? Every hour?

AdminLamuness May 12 2008 5:21 PM EDT

Every hour.

Wizard'sFirstRule May 12 2008 5:34 PM EDT

if you have 10 archers as indians, you get free raids (at least when they don't have nighttime bonus) - 25 mins 1 way for about 100 units of each resource. seems good to me.
btw: I only raid other NPC indian camps. maybe players later.

QBOddBird May 12 2008 5:36 PM EDT

Dude, GW, are you off WG? Your town is gray....

deifeln May 12 2008 5:36 PM EDT


Please add me to the alliance if you can (just got an embassy). I will send resources.

AdminG Beee May 12 2008 6:02 PM EDT

Sent you 100 grain Bartman. Looks like it's coming via the slow boat from China.

deifeln May 12 2008 6:08 PM EDT

does making someone else an additional leader in the alliance allow for quicker expansion?

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 12 2008 6:09 PM EDT

I've noticed a statistic called "attacker luck" in the battle reports. In 3 raids I've launched so far, I have lost one single unit, in a raid where my attacker luck was at -8.4%. The other two were 12% and 17% attacker luck, and nothing died. This was using only 5 attacking raiders, by the way.

Bartman May 12 2008 6:20 PM EDT

Not sure. I added Freed as a Co-Leader. We'll see if it helps.

If everyone could send b/t 50-100 of whatever resources they can spare, I can use a couple of nuggets to even things out and make the upgrades possible faster.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 12 2008 6:24 PM EDT

For the record I am SittingBullet. Seems there was some confusion.

Want to make this clear to CB2 and any other CB alliance.
Don't list our positions!!!! Or use our CB names, use game names.

AdminLamuness May 12 2008 6:28 PM EDT

So you mean AoD's alliance, which lists everybody's position? You can check, it's currently rank 9 in the Ally Top 10.

deifeln May 12 2008 6:30 PM EDT

I have sent AoD an in game message about this

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 12 2008 6:37 PM EDT

But why? Don't we want them to know who exactly to send their armies and farmers to?

*dry laughter*

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 12 2008 7:04 PM EDT

What do farmers do? Where do you build them? I built 10 archers, and it told me the tutorial was over.

[RX3]Cotillion May 12 2008 7:11 PM EDT

I think only Cowboys have archers. You can assign them to either wood, iron, clay, or grain. For each one you assign, it gains you +1 raw material production (of which the farmer was assigned) per hour. They're kinda like a base defensive unit with an added bonus.

[RX3]Cotillion May 12 2008 7:18 PM EDT

Updated Spreadsheet. Can an admin post this in the OP maybe?

And also...

''I think only Cowboys have archers''

It should have read: ''I think only Cowboys have farmers.''

AdminLamuness May 12 2008 7:22 PM EDT

Farmers != Archers

Darkwalker [Jago] May 12 2008 8:49 PM EDT

are we gonna split resource gathering for wood, clay and iron? then move it around the alliance?

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 12 2008 9:55 PM EDT

well, I think maybe if we want to start doing that, we'll need another place to put those posts? This one is pretty full... What do you guys think?

AdminQBVerifex May 12 2008 10:28 PM EDT

Someone invite me to alliance, name is Verifex in game.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] May 12 2008 10:40 PM EDT

Giving it a shot


DH May 13 2008 12:42 AM EDT

this game like Ogame? or something..cause Ogame is fun

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 13 2008 12:50 AM EDT

ppl are deleted from the list, still got 4 invites left after upgrade it will be more

ActionAction May 13 2008 1:19 AM EDT

Over-expanding on farms is very bad if you don't keep up with upgrades on your Granary x____x.

{CB1}[umk]Fangs May 13 2008 2:03 AM EDT

waiting for resources is boring lol... still trying to finish the tutorial where you need to build barracks and upgrade the main bldg 2 lvls. :(

Kong Ming May 13 2008 2:56 AM EDT

I'm in as Kong Ming.

Kong Mings village (290 / 133)

Adminedyit [Superheros] May 13 2008 5:02 AM EDT

someone CM me where i can see when my protection ends

8DEOTWP May 13 2008 5:34 AM EDT

^ Settings, top thing I believe. ^

Daz May 13 2008 5:34 AM EDT

Click setting up the top. It's the top thingy there.
It has it in their weird time, the same as the 'when will i have enough resources' thing. I can't figure out what time it means, because it isn't the server time... and I don't want to think too much about it.

8DEOTWP May 13 2008 5:35 AM EDT

What does level 7 main building bring? Anyone know?

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 13 2008 6:44 AM EDT

AoD sent me an invite to that alliance, In game name is HenkBres.

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 13 2008 7:04 AM EDT

The time it displays seems to be GMT +1. Since the Terms and Conditions and whatever other things are in some Germanic language, I assume it is the server time, and that the server is located in Belgium, the Netherlands, or western Germany.

And, in case I used the wrong abbreviation, I meant the meridian of Greenwich standard time zone when I said "GMT."

IndependenZ May 13 2008 7:13 AM EDT

You are right, Colonel Custard, it's GMT+1. The language you are seeing is in fact German, so I believe the servers are located somewhere in Germany. I am in the Netherlands, and AoD is in Belgium, heh so the times given are correct for us.

For everyone who is wondering, GMT+1 is 6 hours ahead of CB's server time (EST).

IndependenZ May 13 2008 7:13 AM EDT

Sorry, make that EDT...

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 13 2008 7:58 AM EDT

5 invites are send and 4 left

Levon [Clocked Out] May 13 2008 8:48 AM EDT

Levon (198, 126) is ready for an invitation... i won't build much for a little while to contribute some initial resources

i have an invitation already from "Amigos", but i'm guessing that's not one of our alliances?

Darkwalker [Jago] May 13 2008 8:52 AM EDT

I think that we should just concentrate on building up each other by contributing and sharing resources instead of making trades (unless profitable ones). Anybody agrees with me? Since everyone should have at least cover their own food resource, let's divide up the other resource!

I'll take wood! That means that I will concentrate on wood only and most probably build a sawmill as well..... Tomorrow onwards, I can provide aid of wood!

Taking a look at the other alliances (WOJ).... I think that they are already sharing resources and are fast building their soldiers n etc....

Please give your comments.....

Tezmac May 13 2008 8:54 AM EDT

I don't know if this is a hijack or not, but I'm gonna ask anyway! I'm not through the tutorial yet, but I'm on the last step of needing to build my rampart and train 5 units. I'm putting this last step off in order to up my resources, perhaps mistakenly. I havent built a marketplace or a embassy yet either. My resources are currently at:

Farm: 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3
Wood: 2, 2, 1, 1
Iron: 2, 2, 2, 1
Clay: 2, 2, 2, 2

Am I behind? What is everyone else at?

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 13 2008 8:55 AM EDT

all farms 3
Raw materials 2

Got myself a barracks, the alliance hut.

Currently building my army to 10 to complete that step of the tutorial.

QBRanger May 13 2008 8:56 AM EDT

Your far ahead of me.

I am trying to take my main building to level 3 and even though I have the correct recourses, it fails to work.

Any ideas?

QBOddBird May 13 2008 8:56 AM EDT

Tez - I'd grab those soldiers and finish the tutorial. The +25% to production will get you resources far faster than if you put it off.

Tezmac May 13 2008 8:59 AM EDT

Yeah, but that +25% lasts for a week from whenever you finish right? Does that 25% apply to to whatever your resources are at the moment you finish, or is it some fixed amount? If its not fixed, Id rather wait until I up my resources more, thus my 25% yields more. Or am I mistaken?

QBOddBird May 13 2008 9:02 AM EDT

Yes, but you can build your resources faster if you are getting 25% more.

You'll end up with more resources in the end if you finish the tutorial sooner than later.

AdminG Beee May 13 2008 9:06 AM EDT

I believe server time is your own local time.

My server time is GMT and not GMT +1 for example.

TheHatchetman May 13 2008 9:13 AM EDT

You're all doomed if I should happen to release a beast from my lvl 75 dragon pit! muwahaha!

markxe May 13 2008 9:14 AM EDT

do i have to but a hideout before i can have a rampart

AdminG Beee May 13 2008 9:15 AM EDT

No need for a hideout until your protection ends.

ActionAction May 13 2008 9:21 AM EDT

Actually, I would disagree with OB about finishing the tutorial as fast as possible. I would've let all my resources hit max, and perhaps upped my Granary and Raw Material Storage once, THEN finished it, and then I would've had a huge boost in upping resource production - the premium trial account gives you another building queue slot.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 13 2008 9:27 AM EDT

"Your far ahead of me."

"I am trying to take my main building to level 3 and even though I have the correct recourses, it fails to work. "

Look at your food number. You can't build it if the number of food required is bigger then you can supply, it looks something like this: 24/30

Xenko May 13 2008 9:29 AM EDT

I am just concentrating on building resources at the moment before I finish the tutorial. Right before my protection ends (tomorrow evening) I will finish the tutorial and build up some basic defense.

Currently I have:
Farms: 1 level 4, rest level 3
Wood: All level 3
Iron: Half level 3, half level 2
Clay:All level 3

QBRanger May 13 2008 9:37 AM EDT


I have enough food. I will try again in 1 hour.

QBRanger May 13 2008 9:47 AM EDT

42/46 is my food number so I should be able to successful build.

Xenko May 13 2008 10:08 AM EDT

You need to up your farms there Ranger. Your food production is really low at only +4 per hour.

Daz May 13 2008 10:10 AM EDT

"I am just concentrating on building resources at the moment before I finish the tutorial. Right before my protection ends (tomorrow evening) I will finish the tutorial and build up some basic defense.

Currently I have:
Farms: 1 level 4, rest level 3
Wood: All level 3
Iron: Half level 3, half level 2
Clay:All level 3"

I really wish I had done this. You get the supportership for a week when you finish the tute. +25% resource income (Among other things). I'd have just sat there building up for ages if I knew.

QBRanger May 13 2008 10:47 AM EDT

Has anyone gotten an activation e-mail?

I have not yet, and asked for it 4 times yesterday.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 13 2008 11:09 AM EDT

Should be gettin +36 each resource, +20 farm, before you rush for ending the tutor. You should try to get that over with as quick as possible all the same for the production boost and raids are a real must.

We should make a new thread as sending small amounts to those yet to finish the tutor will help us all.

Xenko May 13 2008 11:30 AM EDT

What e-mail address Ranger? Hotmail doesn't seem to work with WG, but G-mail works fine.

markxe May 13 2008 11:43 AM EDT

why cant i see rampart as one of my building options

IndependenZ May 13 2008 11:44 AM EDT

It's already in your village, as lvl 0. Look to the lower corner, right side of the entry path. For cowboys and Mexicans it's right there, don't know for Indians.

QBRanger May 13 2008 11:46 AM EDT

I have comcast.net.

I even looked at my spam folder and nothing.

Do you have to activate your account to continue? Otherwise I am hosed it seems.

QBOddBird May 13 2008 11:47 AM EDT

I got mine activated using Gmail.

So far I haven't seen any reports that anyone's account stopped working due to not activating...

InebriatedArsonist May 13 2008 11:49 AM EDT

Yahoo mail worked for me, so between Yahoo and Gmail you should be able to get your account validated, Ranger.

QBRanger May 13 2008 11:50 AM EDT

I used an old Gmail account to verify!!!
however I cannot change back to my real address.

Tezmac May 13 2008 11:51 AM EDT

I have Comcast as well. I imagine youre checking via Outlook? I had to check it via the web so I could move it out of my spam box there and activate.

deifeln May 13 2008 11:58 AM EDT

You can only change your email address once a month.

QBRanger May 13 2008 11:59 AM EDT

I changed mine 2 times today.

QBRanger May 13 2008 12:25 PM EDT

If anyone has spare resources, I can certainly use some.

I am at Ranger Roost (194 / 317).

deifeln May 13 2008 2:45 PM EDT

We should try to shoot for everyone in the same alliance if possible within the next week or so.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 13 2008 2:48 PM EDT

so far there are 2 alliances delf, i think 2 are good cuz allies help each other

QBOddBird May 13 2008 2:52 PM EDT

I think deifeln's right, we should try and get everyone into the same alliance

deifeln May 13 2008 3:02 PM EDT

Agreed AoD, allies do help each other, but in this game it isn't possible to send resources to an ally if they are not in your 'formal, in game' alliance. As the week progresses, we need to disband your alliance ans shuffle people over to the larger one.

I have sent Bart 400 resources for the current alliance (he must build the embassy at a high cost of resources). I intend to send him more. If you are currently in the larger alliance, please send him more resources so that others may join.

I also think that once AoD's alliance is disbanded (and he himself has joined the larger group) we should send him some resources (slowly, as not to go over his limit) to pay for the expense he has put into his embassy.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 13 2008 3:14 PM EDT

sry to say but im planning on disbanding at all

QBOddBird May 13 2008 3:23 PM EDT

That's fine, you can be the 2nd 1-man CB clan! :) After all, creating a second one was your choice, not something we all decided together or anything.

Xenko May 13 2008 3:25 PM EDT

"sry to say but im planning on disbanding at all"

Is there a "not" missing in that sentence, or are you just using some weird grammar?

Bartman May 13 2008 3:27 PM EDT

I agree that we need to expand my embassy as quickly as possible so we can add new members.

The faster I can expand, the faster we can build our alliance.

Here are the requirements for the next embassy level: (level 6)

Wood 620 | Clay 445 | Stone 515 | Wheat 275

If everyone sends 50-100 of whatever resources they can spare, I can build quicker. You need to have a market built before you can send resources.

Just so everyone knows, the resources are not received automatically as soon as they are sent. I've seen some resources take as long as 8 hours to get to me based on where the send is on the map in relation to my location. There are some slow wagons out there.

I am going to prioritize the invite list based on who sends resources.

Thanks all!!! :)

QBOddBird May 13 2008 3:28 PM EDT

I have way too much stone, I'll send you some as soon as I can build a MP

Adminedyit [Superheros] May 13 2008 3:34 PM EDT

just built a market place as soon as its up if i can figure out how to send you something i will, i want in on the alliance

Tezmac May 13 2008 3:37 PM EDT

Same here, I sent you a CM...

Bartman May 13 2008 3:59 PM EDT

Sounds good folks. I'm trying to respond to every message but let me know if i missed you.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 13 2008 4:20 PM EDT

If I go to Embassy>To Alliance>Options>Invitations, I see this message:


No invitations to others are pending.
To invite further players into your alliance, you need to expand your embassy first!

Does that mean if we all made a lvl 3 embassy in the clan, we could up the amount of members we can take on?

{cb1}Linguala May 13 2008 4:29 PM EDT

As far as I know, the clan can only grow with the lvl of embassy of the owner of the clan.

deifeln May 13 2008 4:35 PM EDT

All members of the clan must send Bart some resources (min 200 each) so he can continue to build the embassy and build necessary upgrades (such as resource storage upgrades).

Please check out the forum we have sent up in the embassy. (Click on the embassy and then "to alliance")

Wizard'sFirstRule May 13 2008 5:12 PM EDT

I have stupid amount of resources - 1k of wood and clay (typed caly the first time round) and 900 iron and 600 wheat (something I use to trade)

Wizard'sFirstRule May 13 2008 5:24 PM EDT

double post: invite me quickly, I will fund a whole level of embassy for you.

[RX3]Cotillion May 13 2008 5:35 PM EDT

Sent 200 food because you have such a low grain production.

I should be raiding 'grays' ? ... The first time I raided a 3 score gray, I lost 4 out of my 5 farmers... Guess I need Infantry, but it costs an arm and a leg for the academy + research + the cost of the units.

Wizard'sFirstRule May 13 2008 5:43 PM EDT

at first I send like 3 archers = 1 die. now I have 21 archers. they all live and loot over 1k resource every 34 mins. about 250 of each.

Bartman May 13 2008 5:56 PM EDT

PK do you have a market set up yet? If so, send me some resources to upgrade the embassy.

I should be able to invite you on the next upgrade.

Wizard'sFirstRule May 13 2008 5:58 PM EDT

I don't think I can send you resource because I am not in your alliance.

Bartman May 13 2008 6:00 PM EDT

You can send resources to anyone if you have a market place. At least that's how I think it works.

Have you tried sending anything to me?

Wizard'sFirstRule May 13 2008 6:02 PM EDT

yup. but doesn't work (only have like 400 wood and some wheat left) - it actually says you can only send to your own villages and alliance member

Bartman May 13 2008 6:04 PM EDT

No sweat, I'll add you in the next upgrade.

deifeln May 13 2008 6:43 PM EDT

Bart, offer 1 iron for 400 wood in the market (nobody will take that :o) and let him send it to you that way.

Wizard'sFirstRule May 13 2008 6:44 PM EDT

can't go above 1:3

deifeln May 13 2008 6:45 PM EDT

oh well

Bartman May 13 2008 6:46 PM EDT

LOL, Nice try though!

You have to upgrade the market to increase the ratios and it's not worth the resources to do it right now.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 13 2008 7:34 PM EDT

Please review the following thread regarding all things Wild Guns:

Click Here

Darkwalker [Jago] May 13 2008 8:36 PM EDT

please check the alliance forum when you are free.....

Bartman May 13 2008 9:18 PM EDT

Got it, sent you a response......

Looks like I'll be able to upgrade the embassy to level 6 later this evening. That's 2 embassy upgrades in one day!!!

Keep the resources coming and we'll be the biggest, baddest alliance in WG!!!

Soxjr May 13 2008 9:31 PM EDT

i sent 200 wood i think, but you are so far away from me that it takes like 4 hours or so to get there.. it will be there later tonight :)

Bartman May 13 2008 9:57 PM EDT

Thanks, every little bit counts.

FYI, I purchased a bunch of nuggets so i can 1 for 1 trade the resources to whatever i need for the upgrade so send whatever you can and I'll make the adjustments.

Bartman May 13 2008 10:00 PM EDT

I just checked the wagon status. It'll be at my place in 1 hour 45 minutes. I also checked resources and saw that I will be able to upgrade when it arrives.

Keep up the donations guys, it's working!!!

j'bob May 13 2008 10:49 PM EDT

ok. i guess i'm ready to join the affiliation.
will ye have me?
i'm j'bob at 165 / 183 (Buddy Lee's Town of Action)

I've got so far
Wood 279 (+60) | Clay 365 (+67) | Rock 257 (+52) | Wheat 751 (+37)
It should increase a bit over night.
All 6 farms are level 3
Clay is 3x3, 1x2
Forest is 2x3, 2x2
Rock is 1x3, 3x2
I've got 7 Ponchos and just built my embassy
What now? eh, gringos? :D

Bartman May 13 2008 10:59 PM EDT

I'll need to invite you to the alliance first. Just continue to work on building your resources and I'll add you as soon as I can.

I already have 3 invites for the next upgrade. You'll be on the upgrade after that.

SNK3R May 14 2008 12:32 AM EDT

Man, this thread is bouncin'.

I wish I had enough time to take over the site with you guys.

Good luck! ;)

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 14 2008 12:53 AM EDT

i still got room in my alliance if anyone want to join

Little Anthony May 14 2008 1:27 AM EDT

Player Nam: LittleAnthony. Invite me, i don't know what to do yet.

Phrede May 14 2008 2:53 AM EDT

Thats alright m8 - nor do I and I been playing for 6 days :)

IndependenZ May 14 2008 3:23 AM EDT

Hey... about deifelns idea to get everybody in 1 alliance as soon as possible... Bartman said "I am going to prioritize the invite list based on who sends resources."

I'm in AoDs alliance, so I can't send resources to Bartman. What should we do? Or are we just last in line to join Carnage 1? Upgrading this alliance even more doesn't sound like a good idea now, so me and the other seven [CB2]-members are just upgrading their villages as much as we can.

By the way, I absolutely love the big hideout cowboys have. =)

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] May 14 2008 4:26 AM EDT

Add me to the list to be included now that I've built up a little more

Little Anthony May 14 2008 4:32 AM EDT

what i have to do when i am lack "resources" to expand? Wait?

AdminG Beee May 14 2008 4:39 AM EDT

Yup. The numbers next to your resources show your refresh rate per hour. e.g. (+45)

Soxjr May 14 2008 5:26 AM EDT

LA. that means that you dont' have enough extra wheat to expand. you need more wheat farms.

Adminedyit [Superheros] May 14 2008 5:26 AM EDT

so far i've got:
all wood cutters at 2
all clay pits at 2
2 lvl 2 and 2 lvl 1 iron mines
5 lvl 2 farms and 1 lvl 4 farm
lvl 5 main building
a storage shed, hideout, barracks, silo, and academy all lvl 1

let me know if you need anything

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 14 2008 6:31 AM EDT

edyit you might wanna start building some military.

Bartman May 14 2008 8:04 AM EDT

edyit, what is your game name?

Added invites to:

Looks like another upgrade sometime this afternoon.

Here are the resources I need for the next embassy upgrade:
Wood 790 | Clay 570 | Stone 660 | Wheat 350

Keep the resources coming and we'll be able to add more players.

Wizard'sFirstRule May 14 2008 8:30 AM EDT

sent 400 of each

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 14 2008 8:34 AM EDT

got 4 invites left and im currently upgrading to lvl 6 so gone have more room in an hour

Levon [Clocked Out] May 14 2008 9:17 AM EDT

i'm getting a headache just from reading the activity going on... lol, you guys are already going to dominate, so i think we can all take a deep breath and slow down :)

don't worry about merging the alliances yet... just get everyone in one of the alliances, then we can decide how many alliances to maintain

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 14 2008 9:46 AM EDT

i dont see the point in all getting in the same alliance, yes we cant transfer resources to everyone but 2 alliances in the top 3 will be bigger then only 1 on the nr 1 spot, i rather attack an alliance with 2 diffrent alliance then 1 alliance, its more a strategic move, that way they have split up and pick 1 alliance and the other alliance can raid all the way

j'bob May 14 2008 9:49 AM EDT

I think AoD has a pretty good point. Maybe 2 separate but allied alliances is the way to go.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 14 2008 11:58 AM EDT

btw we can still send stuff to eachoter trough mp if bartman or i need resources we put in 1 wood clay iron or food in it and ask 200 of what we need, that way we can get the stuff we need
for everything there is an solution (exept me disbanding my alliance)

phrog May 14 2008 12:50 PM EDT

Been spending a lot of time on MagicDuel.com. Came back here and saw this. I'll give it a try.

QBOddBird May 14 2008 12:54 PM EDT

"i dont see the point in all getting in the same alliance, yes we cant transfer resources to everyone but 2 alliances in the top 3 will be bigger then only 1 on the nr 1 spot,"

OK, so explain again why it is better for us to be in 2nd and 3rd than to decisively own 1st?

j'bob May 14 2008 1:11 PM EDT

ooty, why can't we take the gold and silver and leave the bronze for someone else! Raise that bar up a bit mister!

Phrede May 14 2008 2:36 PM EDT

Using this as an opportunity to ask if any of our members want to have the title of diplomat. If we get attacked by another alliance before all out war (costly for both) we need to talk with that alliance and, depending on their size, perhaps agree upon a non-aggression treaty.

Any volunteers message bartman or myself and we will change your title. I would suggest G_Beee but I dont think the other alliance would understand his accent :).

I would be no good either as they would tell straight away that I'm drunk.

QBRanger May 14 2008 2:43 PM EDT

I finally got an embassy and marketplace.

If anyone has spare resources, they would help a lot.

User name: Fortunatto.

Ranger Roost (194 / 317)


Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 14 2008 2:45 PM EDT

Freed, I can help with that if no one else wants to step up... ^_^

Phrede May 14 2008 2:56 PM EDT

Well thats one - I think we need another in a different timezone from Hakai - anyone from Europe wanna volunteer ?

Or even from Scotland :)

Adminedyit [Superheros] May 14 2008 3:18 PM EDT

got the academy up today, building nothing from here out but soldiers and farms to feed them :)

Levon [Clocked Out] May 14 2008 4:03 PM EDT

has anyone discovered if upgrading the embassy allows new members for the alliance that you're a member of, or is it only useful if you're the owner of the alliance? i should just leave my embassy at level 1?

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 14 2008 4:41 PM EDT

i never said 2 and 3th place, 1 should be first the other 1 should be second or thirth
upgrading to lvl 7 embassy, 10 places free atm

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 14 2008 5:36 PM EDT

Ranger: Get into C1 and I'll send.

Levon: Leave as lvl1

To end this split decision. Since AoD has invested heavily into his alliance, his should be open to all WG. While C1 reminds CB only.

AdminG Beee May 14 2008 6:36 PM EDT

Running for my life in Manchester Freed (no joke), no time for diplomacy...

ActionAction May 14 2008 7:21 PM EDT

Anyone been attacked yet? What do your armies look like?

Also, I've got my embassy up, finally~

QBOddBird May 14 2008 9:08 PM EDT

I'm saying 2nd and 3rd because that's far ahead of the position we are in now. If we were to continue to split members between alliances, we simply end up with lower scores than the other clans - whereas if we had one alliance with as many members as we have, we'd easily take first.

Fact is, 1st and 2nd isn't even a possibility. 2nd and 3rd is a stretch. But #1 with one clan? Easily doable.

Bartman May 14 2008 10:17 PM EDT

Level 7 embassy now.

Sent invites to

I've got about 10 more players that I know of who still need invites. If you haven't sent me a message,either CM or in WG, please do so and I will add your name to the list

Next level embassy will need the following resources:

Wood 1015 | Clay 730 | Stone 845 | Wheat 450

I've got good production on stone and clay but need wood and wheat.

Everyone has done a great job sending resources. We need to keep it up until everyone is in the alliance.

BooDiggens May 14 2008 10:21 PM EDT

Just started the tutorial

[RX3]Cotillion May 14 2008 10:22 PM EDT

Cosmos Canyon Bartz Town 15.05.08 08:28 4:08:46 250 Food

Damn. You're so far away...

@ OB - Fighting for #1 may be doable for now as we have ~45-50 members ready to join our alliance. But down the road, other alliances will be sending out invites to every player that's available. If we stay a CB only alliance we'll be at a large disadvantage as we have a largely limited number of players to ally with.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 15 2008 12:47 AM EDT

you want all members in 1 alliance, fine add all my former members, they all out of my alliance

QBRanger May 15 2008 12:56 AM EDT

I am in the alliance.

Khardin May 15 2008 2:26 AM EDT

I'm Khardin at 87/230.

I haven't built an embassy yet. Probably at the end of my premium acct/resource boost.

I finished the tutorial and am trying to up resources while I have the boost. Farmers suck for raiding but the whole self-feeding defense thing/double size hideout is alright. I need to get food and infantry I guess.

I'm trying Indians and Mexicans on server 3 and server 6 and also made an account on Travian com2, which is (apparently) where they copied the ideas from.

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 15 2008 3:20 AM EDT

Hmmmmm... looks like there are lots of new players setting up their villages just a space away from mine...

I guess I'm going to have quite speedy, bountiful raids a week from now.

IndependenZ May 15 2008 3:45 AM EDT

Well, AoD decided to kick us all out of his alliance...

so that means me (AKA Sergeant Bromsnor), ColonelCustard, HenkBres, Levon, LightningRaider, (CB1)DeFiAnT and someone who I can't seem to think of right now are looking to join Carnage 1. I just sent Bartman a message in-game.

My protection is going to run out tonight though, so I hope I'll be safe. :)

Soxjr May 15 2008 5:13 AM EDT

I'm very uncertain here, but AoD there was no need to do that, people were just discussing it.. some people thought 2 allicances was a good idea and others didnt'. I don't think that should have meant for you to just kick people that obviously wanted to be there.. but oh well. since you already did it.

Phrede May 15 2008 6:26 AM EDT

Multi alliances work very well - I dont see why AoD kicked you out though guys - we now more urgently than ever need to get the embassy upped. I am forgoing any training to try and send as much stuff to Bartman as possible.

The other alternative is to rejoin the other alliance as Sox said we were only discussing, AoD not requesting you disband. I am not sure what the limit per embassy is but I think if another village is formed by Bartman you could increase by upping the embassy there - what do others think ?

Bartman - make sure your 2 stores are big enough to cope with the extra materials you may be sent.

Tezmac May 15 2008 7:38 AM EDT

Im 3 ponchos away from being done with the tutorial and then its embassy/raid time. If someone wants to bid on my 50 grain for 150 wood, thatd sure help me out :O)

Bartman May 15 2008 7:48 AM EDT

Not sure why AoD did that either. I never mentioned anything either way about single or multi alliances. I've just been concentrating on building to get as many people in as possible.

Just upgraded the embassy and sent invites for the following:

To be fair to everyone, I'm going to do the invites based on the largest players first. This should do 2 things.

1) It'll encourage players to grow quickly

2) larger players can send more resources to help upgrade the embassy more quickly and allowing us to add more players to the alliance quicker.

Bartman May 15 2008 7:56 AM EDT

Embassy is at level 8. Here are the resources needed for level 9:

Wood 1295 | Clay 935 | Stone 1080 | Wheat 575

Keep those resources coming! We need to add a bunch more players!

Wizard'sFirstRule May 15 2008 8:26 AM EDT

I will see what I can do.

Wizard'sFirstRule May 15 2008 8:39 AM EDT

sent 500 clay and 500 wheat.

I found this clan:
52 CrimsonTimson [C.B] Crimson Braves 89 1
is crimson braves related to us or is he a fair target. I say we declare war on him.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 15 2008 9:41 AM EDT

i shouldnt of done that? everyone said that there should be 1 alliance well exept bob and the ppl that were in my alliance, you all were saying AoD should disband when the embassy was high enough well to bad i done it before so be happy and hush

IndependenZ May 15 2008 10:01 AM EDT

Hey I never said you should disband. You asked us what we would do if we were asked to join the other alliance. I replied that I'd go, because it seems a lot easier to me to get resource chains going, and there's less of a hassle when it comes to wars and such.

Nobody in your alliance said you should disband. I can't read back though, but I remember someone saying that if you were to disband, you would be given resources to compensate for your losses.

That's not the same as "Dismiss all your members." I'd hush if you weren't putting the blame on us, the people you just let down.

Draugluin May 15 2008 10:04 AM EDT

He said "exept bob and the ppl that were in my alliance". He did notice the support from that side. Now, its been done. No need carry this any further.

IndependenZ May 15 2008 10:12 AM EDT

Ooops, you're right Draugluin, I misread :S

I'm sorry AoD, I guess I jumped to conclusions too quickly. My apologies..

AdminG Beee May 15 2008 12:09 PM EDT

How are we doing for troops ?

All well and good producing lots of materials but not good if we can't defend them. Personally I have only 3 base class defenders so I'm a pushover if attacked.

Bartman, what's your priority for raw materials? I've got a mill in place, should I now focus on other raw materials or defence.
Do we actively intend protecting what we've got - or taking what we want from others ?

Might be fun to be an offensive alliance in order to smash the opposition. We're all too nice too often on CB :)

Tezmac May 15 2008 12:13 PM EDT

Suggestion for whoever owns the Google spreadsheet. Maybe add each member on their own line and assign x axis items for each production type, troop levels, etc. That way this kind of stuff is easy to track. Just a suggestion, I'm not even a member yet. :O)

Phrede May 15 2008 12:17 PM EDT

To answer the troop question I did have 6 troops but they were all killed by 75 Indians - how does someone get that many so quickly I cant see how.

QBOddBird May 15 2008 12:29 PM EDT

So far I have 15 troops is all, but if we decide to go on the offensive I can easily get more

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] May 15 2008 1:02 PM EDT

Well my embassy is done... and soon I will start building Farmers so I will have some spare resources... Trying to build up more Resources before I leave protection anyways so I can quick build anything I may need

Levon [Clocked Out] May 15 2008 1:21 PM EDT

i'm out of protection today but i'm guessing i'm not one of the larger producers to warrant an invite yet? my resources should all be around level 3 soon, but i do have a decent hideout so i shouldn't lose many resources if attacked.... if that helps you determine priority

Tezmac May 15 2008 1:27 PM EDT

So what has been the general strategy coming out of the tutorial? Its been mentioned (and what I did) to up all of your resources to +2 and all your farms to +3.

What after that?
Obviously an embassy right? My thought was to create an additional 8 Ponchos (plus the 5 from the tutorial) to raid other inactive, unguarded (3 point) villages. What did you guys that are further along do.

PS, I've still got 3 days of protection.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 15 2008 1:32 PM EDT

Freed, the indian attackers are really cheap, I have 20 and planning on 50, but the prime attackers of indians don't defend, I have to build special troops for defending. So most indian villages are wide open for attack.

And Im constantly attacking those grey villages in my surroundings, gathering lots of resources :)
Ow and thanks for the invite.

AdminG Beee May 15 2008 1:33 PM EDT

If you're going raiding then I'd think perhaps upgrading your main building to lvl 5 and adding an academy in order to train different style troops may be a good idea.

I went raiding with Poncho's and lost more resources (dead Poncho's) than I gained from my targets.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 15 2008 1:34 PM EDT

Indians got attack bonus :) Those archers have 45 attack power :)

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 15 2008 1:46 PM EDT

Tez: I've been raiding like mad. I'd raid the nearest villages possible while I was on, and then further ones if I knew I was going to be gone for hours (so as not to empty out the easy, closer targets unnecessarily). Raiding with about 20 archers or so is an excellent way to get resources. I do not know about ponchos, though.

Also, I've been upping my resources differently than others seem to have been. I do not up all my farms to level 3, then all to level 4. Rather, I up my highest one if possible, because one farm going from level 4 to 5 raises production by 11, while 3 to 4 only raises it by 8, or something. And, once you have a level 5 farm, you can get a mill, and it would take forever to get 7 farms to level 5 in order to get that going. Same with the brickworks, etc, which require a level 10 resource.

QBRanger May 15 2008 3:07 PM EDT

I noticed something today.

When I started, I had 0 grey towns around me. Now when I checked there are 7.

I guess the program makes some towns just pop up out of nowwhere, great for the game though.

AdminG Beee May 15 2008 3:09 PM EDT

The grey towns are locations created by users and then abandoned. i.e. not logged in for a few days.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 15 2008 3:53 PM EDT

those grey places are people that arent under the protection anymore little beee dude

Tezmac May 15 2008 3:59 PM EDT

No, G_Beee is correct, they're bandit towns.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 15 2008 4:10 PM EDT

then take a look at the pink and the grey, grey isnt under protection and the pink are

Tezmac May 15 2008 4:14 PM EDT

*sigh* One of the mods over there answers the question 7 posts down. Linky

[RX3]Cotillion May 15 2008 6:55 PM EDT

Has anyone figured out how in the hell the score works? ... Is it even needed? Is it like a power rating or what?

Tezmac May 15 2008 7:00 PM EDT

Its your food consumption minus troops built from what I understand. So I guess its kinda like a PR :O)

Wizard'sFirstRule May 15 2008 7:08 PM EDT

food consumption - troops = food consumption from building, right?

[RX3]Cotillion May 15 2008 7:09 PM EDT

That's kind of retarded... A farmer counts the same as a soldier? ... Right. I should just make like 5000500500 farmers. They have pretty good defense. We'll have the top score in no time.

Bartman May 15 2008 8:44 PM EDT

Just upgraded the embassy again.

Sent invites to:
Sergeant Bromsnor

Here are the resources required for the next upgrade: (level 10)

Wood 1660 | Clay 1200 | Stone 1385 | Food 740

I had to increase my storage for raw materials to level 3 to accommodate the increased materials requirement.

Keep the resources coming! :) I see a wagon on the horizon, headed to my fort to help upgrade the embassy and increase our alliance!

Bartman May 15 2008 8:47 PM EDT

Just checked the top scores. Our alliance will take over the top spot when the next three players join the alliance!!

Great job everyone!!

Xenko May 15 2008 8:55 PM EDT

"That's kind of retarded... A farmer counts the same as a soldier? ... Right. I should just make like 5000500500 farmers. They have pretty good defense. We'll have the top score in no time."

That would not increase your score at all. Score is based on food consumption by your buildings/mines. Farmers, soldiers, units do not contribute to score. Units will contribute to offensive/defensive score, but once again farmers do not contribute to either, despite the fact that they do provide defense.

Pheather May 15 2008 9:00 PM EDT

I currently have 77 score. Do I need an embassy to join this alliance?

winner winner May 15 2008 9:01 PM EDT

How is everyone's score so high?

Tezmac May 15 2008 9:03 PM EDT

I think they all have a couple days head start on us. That, and once you get through the tutorial, you have a bonus for a week, which lets you build faster.

Bartman May 15 2008 9:14 PM EDT

Rocket, yes you need an embassy.

I'll add you to the list.

[RX3]Cotillion May 15 2008 9:58 PM EDT

Added wood/clay/iron/grain production columns to the spreadsheet.

Also, anyone and everyone is able to edit the spreadsheet now. If you want, put your own production rates in. I trust that it won't be sabotaged.

Timberwolf May 15 2008 10:05 PM EDT

I am Darmichar at 192, 281.
Just started tonight so it may be a while before I can provide any assistance.

Draugluin May 15 2008 10:34 PM EDT

I'm producing a single less clay and food than I should be. Anyone else seeing production discrepancies?

lostling May 15 2008 10:49 PM EDT

lol 400+ posts.... and i still aint playing this game =x

QBOddBird May 15 2008 10:58 PM EDT

Anyone else having a problem raiding? I'm getting a server error.

CB2 and WG both with errors, how frustrating! -.-

Soxjr May 15 2008 11:28 PM EDT

i think the errors are just you. I am doing fine! :)

QBOddBird May 15 2008 11:37 PM EDT

Yeah, it has resolved itself by now, just for like...10 minutes there I was getting annoyed with the server errors.

Mikel [Bring it] May 15 2008 11:58 PM EDT

Some of you are really lucky if you have bandit towns right next to you. Closest one to me is a 30 minute travel time one way!

Lochnivar May 16 2008 12:18 AM EDT

do the different defense ratings of the races impact raids on NPCs?

Mikel [Bring it] May 16 2008 1:21 AM EDT

I don't think it does, you just have to have enough Offense to do anything else you get bounced.

Mikel [Bring it] May 16 2008 1:22 AM EDT

Dang sorry for double post.

Only if the NPC has built up Ramparts or Troops.
Otherwise no.

{cb1}Linguala May 16 2008 2:57 AM EDT

there are bandits all around me, but I don't have any offensive troops and not enough resources to learn soldiers...

{CB1} DeFiAnT [Jago] May 16 2008 7:45 AM EDT

Hey Bartman:

Please don't forget me for the alliance.


Bartman May 16 2008 7:56 AM EDT

No worries, I've got you on the list.

chuck1234 May 16 2008 8:15 AM EDT

here's a CB2/wildguns interaction first: missed a botcheck coz i clicked on cb2 n switched onto wildguns n got stuck there, lotsa minutes l84 returned to cb2 to find i'm lockd out for an hour lol; first time its happened, tho i m sure its not the last ;)

Bartman May 16 2008 5:10 PM EDT

OK, bit of trivia for you. Who has the longest wagon train sending resources to me for the embassy upgrades?

I'll give you a clue. If your delay time is less than 10 hours, it's not you.

Guesses anyone?

BluBBen May 16 2008 5:12 PM EDT

Hey bartman, any way for me to send you resources to build your embassy even though I'm not in the alliance yet?

Bartman May 16 2008 5:47 PM EDT

Nope! But you CAN join the alliance and send resources! I just sent you an invite. :)

Bartman May 16 2008 5:50 PM EDT

Just upgraded the embassy again.

Sent invites to the following:

Here are the resources needed for the next embassy upgrade: (level 11)

Wood 2125 | Clay 1535 | Stone 1770 | Food 945

Keep the resources coming! I've still got 15 more players we need to add to the alliance!

BluBBen May 16 2008 5:51 PM EDT

Wow, thanks! =D

Do you need any food? I'm a little low on the other resources :-\

Bartman May 16 2008 6:13 PM EDT

Send what you can, every little but helps!

Check the alliance forums when you get the chance. the attacks thread is pretty busy.

AdminQBVerifex May 16 2008 8:14 PM EDT

Bartman please send me an alliance invite.

11770 [11770's clan] May 16 2008 10:16 PM EDT

this game is just like tribal wars we should form an alliance there as well

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 16 2008 10:37 PM EDT

Played Tribal Wars and quit after my 4th takeover. Not going back ty.

Daz May 17 2008 1:21 AM EDT

Bart. I just sent you everything I had sitting around before going out. Hope it helps.

AdminG Beee May 17 2008 4:04 AM EDT

Bartman, you live on the dark side of the moon.

I need to get my guy one of those "Jet-Man" wing sets...

Adminedyit [Superheros] May 17 2008 6:19 AM EDT

anyone else who is a cowboy want to tell me how i can train anything besides farmers? i have a lvl2 barracks and a lvl3 academy and it wont give me the option to train anything but farmers

AdminG Beee May 17 2008 6:26 AM EDT

You'll need to research them at the academy if it's anything like Mexicans. Also, you may find you need your academy level increased to lvl 5 before you can train others...

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] May 17 2008 6:26 AM EDT

Need to research in academy, not just upgrade academy

Adminedyit [Superheros] May 17 2008 6:27 AM EDT

thanks i'll try that now :-)

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 17 2008 7:32 AM EDT

go edyit :)

Bartman May 17 2008 12:48 PM EDT

Just upgraded the embassy again!

Sent invites to:


Here are the resources needed for the next embassy upgrade: (level 12):

Wood 2720 | Clay 1965 | Stone 2265 | Food 1210

As you can see, the resource requirements continue to climb. Keep the resources coming!!

I finally took the time to map all the resources than have been sent. Congrats go out to the top 5 contributors:

Name____Total resources donated
Painkiller - 2600
Hakai - 2000
Spydah - 1600
J'Bob - 1400
SittingBullet - 1300

I've got another list of 10 alliance members who have not donated anything to assist our cause. I'm hesitant to send out the list but I encourage everyone to send what they can to help out.

Some players have only donated 100-400 in resources. That's OK because I know all are trying to build resources as well and they gave what they could afford. Even small donations add up quickly if everyone is helping out.

I also know resources have been sent to assist other to build defenses against attacks and raids. We need to keep this up as well if we are truly going ot dominate this game.

I don't want to sound like a televangelist but..... give til it hurts!!! LOL

Thanks again for everyones support! :)

AdminG Beee May 17 2008 2:52 PM EDT

The "Warriorz Of Justice" alliance seems to have a higher percentage of players who are stronger than us.

We're in trouble if they decide to pay us a little visit.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 17 2008 2:53 PM EDT

ive sent 500 wood and clay, can't spare any food or iron at the moment. Research is expensive on the iron :(

{cb1}Linguala May 17 2008 3:02 PM EDT

I've finally started raiding and will be donating more soon.

IndependenZ May 17 2008 3:08 PM EDT

Same here, I just figured out how to get other units than farmers (just like edyit), been saving up resources to get the research done. Tomorrow I'll be able to build some units and I'll go raid, which in turn will get me resources to donate.

wotan [Sepapoisid] May 17 2008 3:23 PM EDT

Found just out that 14 first Top Players are all Indians.

Mikel [Bring it] May 17 2008 4:17 PM EDT

Hey, I'm a cowboy and closing those ranks up. Just 3 days ago wasn't in the top 100. And don't fret it too much. Mexican troops are expensive, and Cowboys will eventually catch up to the Indians.

QBOddBird May 17 2008 4:18 PM EDT

At least one of those guys up top will get totally PWNed later anyways, as I am saving up troops to make a big hit.

AdminG Beee May 17 2008 5:06 PM EDT

I'm pretty sure I'm not alone at having missed the significance of the benefits gained by using nuggets.

If you can afford to purchase them then I'd recommend you do so and take advantage of the 1:1 merchant and immediate updates. It really does speed things along.

Thanks for taking the time out to explain that to me Hakai. It eventually got through... :)

QBRanger May 17 2008 6:47 PM EDT

700 620 1480 580 for training rifleman. Just the research.

Has anyone researched them? That is a ton of resources just to be able to make a defensive unit. Is it worth it, or should I upgarde to get the ability to research better unit and stay with archers for now?

QBOddBird May 17 2008 6:52 PM EDT

Personally, I've just been upgrading my Rampart and hideyhole for defensive measures.

I'm far more interested in getting blunderbusses and fire arrows.

QBRanger May 17 2008 7:08 PM EDT

I sort of thought that OB. I do like Mounted Archers also. Level 5 Academy needed.

Mikel [Bring it] May 17 2008 7:25 PM EDT

wow? Cowboys have to have a Level 5 Academy just to get Soldiers! Who have good Attack/Defense/Carry numbers.
It's all I'm training now, up to about 25 of them. The 12 farmers stay home, since their carry is useless.
And Soldiers is good enough for now and a while to go. So I'm just building up my Resource pits and attacking.

{cb1}Linguala May 17 2008 7:50 PM EDT

Mikel, soldiers can be trained at lvl1 academy...
However, cowboys need lvl5 academy to research cowboys.
Additionally, lvl5 barracks is needed to "unlock" stables.

Kong Ming May 17 2008 9:38 PM EDT

Finally finished tutorial and have setup the marketplace. Going to setup the embassy and send some resources when I come on next time. Where should the resources go to?

Mikel [Bring it] May 17 2008 11:30 PM EDT

uhm I don't plan to use cowboys as one of my troopers. I was simply referring to the race. But thanks :)

Xenko May 18 2008 1:00 AM EDT

Resources incoming... in about 3 hours or so. :P

IndependenZ May 18 2008 4:33 AM EDT

570 clay, 200 iron and 200 food coming your way Bart. And it only takes about 90 minutes, yay! :P

ActionAction May 18 2008 4:47 AM EDT

WoJ is upping its entrance requirements in order to keep up with us :P. I doubt we're going to remain in close contention for a very long period of time, as they're drawing from all of S4 :(.

But hey, we have the bonus of all knowing each other :).

BluBBen May 18 2008 7:18 AM EDT

I have sent 200 iron and 200 food. Keep upping that embassy! =D

I realised a moment ago a thing that scared me. The cowboys will eventualy rule everything. :-\ Their sniper are the by far best attacker compared to food usage. It will own everything.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 18 2008 7:21 AM EDT

Yeah but I suspect the sniper will be very expensive to research and to build.
By then more the Indians have more then plenty of smaller, cheaper attackers.
What they can't do by power they can do by numbers :P

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 18 2008 7:22 AM EDT

Ow and there defense isn't that good.

MonkeyMandate [Wasting Time] May 18 2008 7:52 AM EDT

the sniper unit isn't that hard to research or to train. it only costs about 1.5 times a soldier and is a more effective attacker. against Indians if a cowboy has an upgraded rampart and a decent number of farmers with defense upgrades then they can basically take on any other unit and if not win inflict massive losses.

BluBBen May 18 2008 7:53 AM EDT

Yeah the indians can compensate with numbers. But the food usage will be a huge problem for the indians, the cowboys will have almost double the attack power with the same food usage. That's what will tip the favour to the cowboys.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 18 2008 11:44 AM EDT

Got this from a non-alliance guy, won't say who. Much praise onto him. :) Hopefully none from them will see this then feel betrayed as I respected Rexor, Bardogan, and the one who relayed this message to me, the most in WoJ.

Well... We are going to make a new alliance today, because we all thought chrisgala was a bad leader and to childish... so today we will have a new alliance so I ask you if you want to join us then... because then you are choosing right side... but you do what you want to do... but if you want to join our new alliance so message me and I<Rexor> or Bardogan will invite you...

Bartman May 18 2008 11:50 AM EDT

I'm getting close to another upgrade but still need some help to make it happen today.

Thanks to all who have been donating regularly to the alliance. Hopefully , a few more upgrade will allow all our members into the alliance.

I've had a request from one of the top players in another alliance ask to join ours. Seems theirs is not working together and their leader may be inactive. Its the United Nations clan.

Funny how both other clans in the top 3 are having problems....

Glad ours is active and working together.

BluBBen May 18 2008 11:51 AM EDT

So... will you join them? Or maybe we can ally with new alliance?

Kong Ming May 18 2008 12:00 PM EDT

I can't send any resources because I'm not in the alliance yet. Can Bartman send an invitation? I can spare quite a bit of resources, probably 500 of each.

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 18 2008 12:04 PM EDT

800 Iron coming in about 5 hours.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 18 2008 12:12 PM EDT

Not leaving and hate you for asking!
Should make ally with them.

Kong Ming May 18 2008 12:27 PM EDT

Apparently I can't send any resources is because my merchant is still not back in the village. It will be back in another 9 hours or so... Will send some resources when it comes back (hopefully there will still be resources ;)

Tezmac May 18 2008 12:47 PM EDT

Yeah, I've got a grip of food I could send as well, but I'm not a member either. Building up a small force and raiding pays huge dividends and really speeds up the ol village growth!

Daz May 18 2008 12:56 PM EDT

Sent more, Barty.

QBRanger May 18 2008 2:19 PM EDT

I think I will quit as there is no nub to let me catch up to all the players that started before me. That is grossly unfair as I have no way to beat them, like new players here can surpass me. Time and effort should mean nothing in every game just like in CB! j/k of course. but the gist of the post still stands.

chuck1234 May 18 2008 2:35 PM EDT

Ranger, you can buy nuggets; since most of the others don't purchase them, you'll be with a virtual NUB for as long as you keep paying....

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 18 2008 3:01 PM EDT

A message/request from Rexoz:

chrisgala is not a good leader... happy do your alliance want to be allied with our...?

He would like to ally his alliance with us. What say you people?

QBRanger May 18 2008 3:03 PM EDT

We are a CB alliance.

CB2 will take over. We need no help!!

That is my opinion.

AdminG Beee May 18 2008 3:43 PM EDT

Of course he wants to ally with us. Who wouldn't?

For me we should stay as a CB only alliance for the time being because it suits us today. I'm also happy to be passive for the meantime.

btw, I'm conscious of the fact that my contribution to the alliance (i.e. Bartman) has been only about 400 or so raw materials with many people having contributed much more.
I'd be happy to try and "formalise" the contribution based on score. We need to get our waiting list down to zero.

Also, any of our members not wanting to keep playing, please let Bartman know so that he can remove you (no need to keep the dead wood), but also so that we can raid you for your materials if you haven't gotten as far as a market place yet. Obviously if you have a market please send your material to Bartman.

IndependenZ May 18 2008 3:47 PM EDT

They just want to keep us at bay, they're afraid. If you can't beat them, join 'm.

I'd say just let them be afraid, if we don't ally with them, we won't lose the right to attack them :P

Phrede May 18 2008 4:14 PM EDT

Eventually we will have to ally with someone as other alliances will ally (again this happened in Travian) we can only grow so big as we have a limited number of members (50 or so ?).

Not saying we have to do it now but dont discount alliances with other non CB groups - or even a non-agression treaty.

BluBBen May 18 2008 4:15 PM EDT

I feel that we don't need to ally him. Instead signing a NAP (non aggression pact) would be a much better idea. If they breaks the NAP without a war declaration of any sort people will know they can't be trusted (one alliance on Travian could have won the game if they haden't broke a NAP), and those guys know that.

So no, not a alliance, but a NAP. Just to be sure they don't attack us. Because if they attack us we will have to attack them back. And now in the beginning we don't want a war, we want to grow! Later on when we can take over villages SURE, a war is just what we want. But only because it will help us grow faster. For now, peace is the way to go, but binding us with them with a ally is just stupid.

^many words without really meaning anything, I just wrote what was in my head^

Mikel [Bring it] May 18 2008 4:31 PM EDT

Ranger, train some troops and start raiding bandits, you'll grow fast as heck.
I got super lucky now, the town right next to me has become a bandit, woo hoo, 10 minute raids!

Once you get some troops going, you'll fly up the charts.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 18 2008 5:14 PM EDT

Killerz Of Revenge? Ugh, that's nasty. If they had taste I'd push ally.

NAP wouldn't make such impact as in Travian. No one on WG cares. Their name doesn't offer trust. Best dealings would be allied war with WoJ, which may be pointless for a month.

AdminG Beee May 18 2008 5:18 PM EDT

It costs me 2,580 resources just to research a Mexican that I can use for offense at the academy, plus another 580 to actually create one. That's a heck of a lot of resources required to put together a suitable squad of Mariachi to raid the greys.

I intend to carry on pumping my raw material production unless someone else out there has a wonderful strat for Mexicans that I've missed.

Soxjr May 18 2008 5:23 PM EDT

bee if the mexican is anything like the cowboys, then yeah. you have to find a unit that has a better attack. then save and research then slowly build up your base of units to attack. I had to do the same thing and now I have 12 farmers that stay in my village getting extra resources and 30 of the soldiers that actually raid. I am finally doing well. It just took a long time to get here.

Phrede May 18 2008 5:51 PM EDT

I am the same as G_Beee I have no army atm. Just trying to get the levels of my camp up.

Mikel [Bring it] May 18 2008 5:54 PM EDT

Mexicans can train up about 15-20 ponchos and raid the bandit's with those. I have a Mexican on server 2. Once I got some ponchos, My growth really shot up, but I agree, their units are the most expensive.

Soxjr May 18 2008 6:08 PM EDT

ok. can you play on another server with the same e-mail or do i have to use a different e-mail?

Bartman May 18 2008 7:26 PM EDT

Just upgraded the embassy again!

Sent invite to:

Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade (Level 13:

Wood 3480 | Clay 2515 | Stone 2900 | Food 1545

The resources have picked up. I thank everyone for their efforts!! Keep it up and we'll have everyone in the alliance in less than a week!

PotatoHead May 18 2008 7:36 PM EDT

I am playing on server 4 PotatoHead is me name there as well. Co-or: Purgatory (299 / 239)

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] May 18 2008 7:42 PM EDT

I will send 250 of each resource each day, should hopefully help to increase our embassy level a little quicker.

Bartman May 18 2008 8:23 PM EDT

Every bit definitely helps. With the number of folks we have in the alliance now, there's no reason it should take longer than a day to upgrade.

Little Anthony May 18 2008 8:47 PM EDT

question: how do i start to make troop? how to send raw materials?

Mikel [Bring it] May 18 2008 8:53 PM EDT

to make troops, you need barracks. To send materials, you need a market.

150 of each resource sent. 5 hour travel time.

Levon [Clocked Out] May 18 2008 8:54 PM EDT

lol the town next door to me is the leader of some mexican alliance

j'bob May 18 2008 9:04 PM EDT

Sigh. I tried to add myself but it apparently didn't take quite right. On the plus side, I don't think I messed anything up! :)
I'm at 165 / 183
and my resource production is currently at;
Wood (+108) | Clay (+94) | Iron (+84) | Food (+53)

Xenko May 18 2008 9:15 PM EDT

Fixed formatting j'bob.

How many more levels on the embassy do we need Bart?

{CB1}stingiestbard [why] May 18 2008 10:07 PM EDT

Just sent 250 each of wood, iron and clay. About 4 hours until it arrives.

{CB1}[umk]Fangs May 18 2008 10:22 PM EDT

finally completed the tutorial! woohoo! lol hopefully noone would attack me when i get out of protection..

now to build an embassy and a marketplace...

Kong Ming May 18 2008 10:39 PM EDT

I tried sending resources but was not able to do so. How should it be done? I've got 2 merchants free and a marketplace as well but nothing happened when I clicked ok for sending resources to Bartman.

Tezmac May 18 2008 10:41 PM EDT

Yeah, 15 ponchos will work wonderfully for raids. I've shot up about 500 places in the rankings today :O)

Bartman May 18 2008 11:14 PM EDT

Kong, you can't send resources until you are in the alliance. Just build your resources until I can get you in. The higher your score the better your resources.

Bartman May 18 2008 11:16 PM EDT

Looks like at least 4 more. 4 will get the current list but I just added Kong Ming and {CB1}[umk]Fangs so that will be 5 more levels.

Mikel [Bring it] May 18 2008 11:46 PM EDT

I just sent 150 more of each.

Darkwalker [Jago] May 19 2008 12:53 AM EDT

can i double check with everybody......which is better upgrading all the resource lvl by lvl or just concentrate on 1......ie.... 3 lvl 3 clay pits and 1 lvl 5 clay pits and just keep on upgrading the higher lvl pit.....or just upgrade all evenly?

Draugluin May 19 2008 12:55 AM EDT

By the resources spent and the production numbers, I'd say even is the way to go. However, it also seems that the production numbers may not be what they seem, so I'd hold the judgement.

QBOddBird May 19 2008 1:09 AM EDT

to start out with you need more clay than anything else, but it levels out a bit more later when you are building a greater variety of structures.

On a side note, Carnage 1 Alliance is now the #1 alliance by well over 500 score!! WEWT

...and I have 50 archers, halfway towards my army goal before building firebombers!

Xenko May 19 2008 2:15 AM EDT

I think upgrading all equally is better. As you get higher, it gets more expensive, and you waste a lot of time waiting to upgrade 1 level, when you could upgrade the others and earn much more resources.

Kong Ming May 19 2008 3:24 AM EDT

Will sending more troops for raiding reduce the chances of losing units? I send 6 yesterday and lost one unit during the raid.

Soxjr May 19 2008 3:40 AM EDT

yes kong. i definately send more troops and lower the likely hood of losing any. I still lose 1 every now and then and I'm sending 30 soldiers now.

Darkwalker [Jago] May 19 2008 3:44 AM EDT

Do you target only bandits size 3 towns or all bandits whatever the size, Sox?

Nerdrage [Crusade for Pie] May 19 2008 4:06 AM EDT

i would like to join, but how do i butt it out, do i skrew up the forums or sumthin?

Nerdrage [Crusade for Pie] May 19 2008 4:14 AM EDT

oh wait, i see. i just started and goin great

chuck1234 May 19 2008 4:30 AM EDT

hey folks, have any of you ever tried out the combat simulator?

ActionAction May 19 2008 5:09 AM EDT

Not to interrupt the flow of raid talk, but what's everyone's resources look like? Have you bought the 5%/upgrade resource buildings yet?

Also, does anyone know how one would calculate the maximum amount of resources one could send using "Send raw materials"?

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 19 2008 6:11 AM EDT

and what building might that be?

Daz May 19 2008 6:16 AM EDT

Getting attacked. Sent Bart all of my stuff instead of losing it completely.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 19 2008 6:19 AM EDT

build a hide out, then they cant steal your stuff

Daz May 19 2008 6:59 AM EDT

I have one, It was just an excuse to send that stuff over...

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 19 2008 10:07 AM EDT

AA, I have a mill at lvl 2 right now, and the increase wasn't that noticible, to be honest. Though, as we all know, the food rate constantly decreases, so.... I'm sure the other buildings will show more of an impact on the number increases. I have not yet gotten any of the other 5% increase buildings. My farms are not that high yet. At the moment, my farm levels are at the following:

Wood Farms: 1 lvl 6, 1 lvl 4, 2 lvl 3
Iron: 1 lvl 4, 3 lvl 3
Clay: 1 lvl 7, 1 lvl 5, 2 lvl 4
Food: 1 lvl 7, 1 lvl 5, 4 lvl 4

That brings my total to:

Holz 1013 (+127) | Clay 1915 (+188) | Iron 648 (+84) | Food 1460 (+30) Food consumption 235/265 Zustimmung 100%

I am pleased, however to say, this morning I just finished making my cannon foundry and last night I researched my fire fiends, so I am ready to start training some.

How many does everyone think I need?

Also, in regards to your question about max resources, AA, I am pretty sure 1 merchant can carry up to 1000 resources. However, please do not quote me on that ^_^.

(takes a breath)

Daz May 19 2008 10:54 AM EDT

The guy has now attacked me 3 times. The resources he has gained? 0, 0, 0, 0. He killed 10 whole archers, which is fine, because it put my food production up...

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 19 2008 10:57 AM EDT

Daz, who is attacking you? We'll demolish him...I'll break his stupid ramparts with my fire fiends...

We need to make a retaliation list...

QBOddBird May 19 2008 11:00 AM EDT

Yeah, tell us who to hit, I've got 50 archers just waiting...

j'bob May 19 2008 11:04 AM EDT

Aside from the food, what causes the production number on the other stuff to go down?

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 19 2008 11:08 AM EDT

I've noticed that Indians need a lot of wood to produce units.

QBOddBird May 19 2008 11:09 AM EDT

j'bob - premium account running out, probably.

j'bob May 19 2008 11:10 AM EDT

ahhh the end of the bonus, thats right, thanks ob!

markxe May 19 2008 12:07 PM EDT

say if your attacking someone we can poss arange to arrive at the same time do a joint attack

Blarg May 19 2008 1:08 PM EDT

i'm playing, blarg, 159/102

Daz May 19 2008 1:17 PM EDT

Player: Wenca
Village: Inchuchuna main 139|244

I'm not really concerned. He didn't get anything...

The battle log thing is a little bit confusing:

Raid on Wenca by No mans land (139|241)
Wenca attacks No mans land (139|241)
Raid on Wenca by No mans land (139|241)

Entries One and Three look like *I* attacked *them*, but then when I go into the report, I'm the defender. They might need to fix that?

Bartman May 19 2008 1:34 PM EDT

What did he attack with and what were his losses? He's very close to me and I can go after him.

Draugluin May 19 2008 1:37 PM EDT

Finally got my embassy up. Tutorial isn't done yet, hoping to get a buttload of production more first. Could I be on that list then, Bartman? (+75)(+75)(+59)(+51) when the embassy finishes construction

Bartman May 19 2008 1:37 PM EDT

Just upgraded the embassy again (level 13):

Sent invites to:
(CB1) DeFiAnT
Mastodont (

Not sure why I got 4 invites but I'll check it against the next upgrade.

Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade: (Level 14):

Wood 4455 | Clay 3220 | Stone 3715 | Food 1980

Thanks to all who are donating resources. The numbers we have now are definitely helping to keep the upgrades consistent.

{CB1}stingiestbard [why] May 19 2008 4:55 PM EDT

Just sent 100 of each resource.

Phrede May 19 2008 5:17 PM EDT

you had one left from the previous level :)

Bartman May 19 2008 5:39 PM EDT

LOL, I'm hoping that it's because I get 4 invites per level past a certain point. The next upgrade will let us know for sure.

Bartman May 19 2008 5:48 PM EDT

Anyone have an idea who Nerdrage is? He posted a message in the forum Spydah set up on his server for WG. Can't find him in either CB or WG.

AdminG Beee May 19 2008 6:12 PM EDT

Wasn't Spydah's forum, it was on WG Bartman.


Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 19 2008 6:17 PM EDT

where is spydah's forum so we can continue there instead posting here?

Bartman May 19 2008 7:00 PM EDT

Oops! My bad! LOL, Still would like to know who this guy is though!

Bartman May 19 2008 7:02 PM EDT

I found him. His WG name is:

Nerdrage (CB ROCKS)

Sent him a CM asking what his CB name is.

AdminLamuness May 19 2008 7:19 PM EDT

You mean this Nerdrage ?

8DEOTWP May 19 2008 7:23 PM EDT

OB, 6white9 sent 30 ponchos to me and I killed all but 2 with 5 farmers, 10 soldiers, and 10 snipers. Lost a farmer and soldier with level 3 rampart. Watch out when sending large groups of basic units.

Bartman May 19 2008 7:25 PM EDT

Thanks Lameness, Not sure why his name wasn't coming up.

Little Anthony May 19 2008 7:42 PM EDT

Let me know when you can add me : LittleAnthonys village (251 / 159)

Daz May 19 2008 8:09 PM EDT

He had 30 ish archers in each attack.

Xenko May 19 2008 8:24 PM EDT

Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but is it just me or is it odd that Nerdrage just signed up for CB... spy perhaps?

Levon [Clocked Out] May 19 2008 10:27 PM EDT

lol... go easy on them

{CB1}[umk]Fangs May 19 2008 10:50 PM EDT

I currently still have the bonus production. Should I increase my troops first or raise my raw material production?

I currently have:
farm - lvl 3x6 (+32)
woodcutter - lvl 3x2, lvl 2x2 (+60)
clay pit - lvl 3x3, lvl 2x1 (+67)
iron mine - lvl 3x2, lvl 2x2 (+60)

QBOddBird May 19 2008 11:49 PM EDT

Heh, Xenko, I don't care if he signed up as a spy or not - if it is bringing new players to the game, it is a good thing

Xenko May 20 2008 12:12 AM EDT

*puts on his Aluminum foil hat*

They won't control me... I won't let them!

Mikel [Bring it] May 20 2008 12:35 AM EDT

Fangs, raise production first.

I'm going to be training Snipers real soon, and just built my stables, then I can research Trappers (spies).

FuriousHobo May 20 2008 12:43 AM EDT

Boo_Bears village (295 / 158)
i dont even know how to play. any tips? like how do i get an alliance? :)))

Draugluin May 20 2008 12:51 AM EDT

To join an alliance, you must have a level 1 embassy at least, and have the alliance leader of the alliance to send you an invitation. You kind of need clay more than anything else at the start, and grain always has to be balanced against the other resources.

QBRanger May 20 2008 8:47 AM EDT

Is there any way to give troops to an ally?

TheHatchetman May 20 2008 10:03 AM EDT

Ranger, you could always elect a leader for your village that promises to help allying nations, but he would likely in turn attempt to dupe the whole world into fighting his daddy's war...

IndependenZ May 20 2008 10:04 AM EDT

If you click on the village of an ally on the world map, you can click "send troops" and then select the type "back up". I have no idea how long the troops are going to stay there and how it works with food consumption though.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 20 2008 10:22 AM EDT

normally the troops stay there forever or till they die

j'bob May 20 2008 10:29 AM EDT

"normally the troops stay there forever or till they die "

and then they go to your town? :D

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 20 2008 11:34 AM EDT

To answer someone's question from earlier, I have gotten the first 5% boost building, which is the Mill. I've upgraded it to level 4, so it gives me 20% extra food production. I would say it is extremely beneficial, although it costs quite a bit of food to build and to upgrade (it basically requires me to up my grain storage capacity in my granary every time just so I can hold enough grain before the upgrade).

However, my food consumption is at 200/241 right now. Counting just my farms, I have 2 level 6s, one level 5, and 3 level 4s, which comes out to 201 grain production. This means that I'm getting 40 extra grain production per hour thanks to my mill.

From an economic point of view, I think I've still spent more grain on mill upgrades than I've gained from the increased production, but short-term loss is the first step in a good investment. And yesterday I was at -8 grain per hour, so the mill upgrade has done me good.

Blarg May 20 2008 12:44 PM EDT

I'm building my embassy now and just finished the tutorial, wew

markxe May 20 2008 1:58 PM EDT

anyone using cowboys are they worth it

Bartman May 20 2008 2:42 PM EDT

I'm using Cowboys. The top scores show that Indians are the best for quick growth but we'll have to see what the long term growth is for the others.

My char is the second highest cowboy in the top 50 but my growth has been stunted by concentrating on embassy upgrades. Once we have everyone in the alliance, we'll see how fast, or slow, I can climb the ranks. I was consistently in the top 3 before I started the alliance.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 20 2008 4:47 PM EDT

My first sent attack! Raids aren't the only way. Learn from it. :) Still haven't been attacked myself.

66 Archers, 1 lost. He lost all 4 Ponchos. Luck: 2.3%

Wood 836 Clay 836 Iron 836 Food 1067 3575 / 3575

AdminG Beee May 20 2008 4:49 PM EDT

Where was he on the food chain, what was his score?

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 20 2008 5:24 PM EDT

Doesn't matter. Add lvl1 Rampart to him.

Next target. Rampart lvl4, lost all 5 Ponchos.
65 Archers, lost 4, luck 7.1%.

Wood 844 Clay 822 Iron 844 Food 844 3354 / 3355

Bartman May 20 2008 5:42 PM EDT

Cool! Nice work Gun! :)

Bartman May 20 2008 5:49 PM EDT

Just upgraded the Embassy again (Level 13):

Sent invites to:
Aeris (resend)

Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade: (level 14)

Wood 5705 | Clay 4120 | Stone 4755 | Food 2535

I'm going to have to upgrade my storage for raw materials to hold onto enough wood to make the upgrade.

The resources were a little scarce this morning and i was wondering if we were going to make this one today. A large number of wagons came in all within about an hours time to provide the remaining resources.

Great work everyone! Keep it up! Looks like 3 more upgrades will have everyone in the alliance!

QBRanger May 20 2008 6:06 PM EDT


To get +1 attack on Rifleman I need to invest:

Attack (1) +1 -/- -/- -/- -/- 6137 5436 12976 5085 -/- 15:45:00

QBOddBird May 20 2008 6:12 PM EDT

whoa! Expensive upgrade for what seems to be -very- little effect

QBRanger May 20 2008 6:19 PM EDT

It seems for archers +1 attack is reasonable for defense, not so much.

For Riflemen the opposite.


Attack (1) +2 -/- -/- -/- -/- 445 557 278 334 -/- 0:33:20
Defense rating (1) -/- +1 +1 -/- -/- 1002 1253 626 752 -/- 1:15:00


Attack (1) +1 -/- -/- -/- -/- 6137 5436 12976 5085 -/- 15:45:00
Defense rating (1) -/- +2 +3 -/- -/- 223 197 471 184 -/- 0:34:17

I guess archers for primarily attack and riflemen defense so the upgrades in their "speciality" is less.

QBOddBird May 20 2008 6:26 PM EDT

Makes sense, since Archers are offensive units.

Guess I'll be able to upgrade those blunderbuss for cheap when I get to them! *grins*

QBOddBird May 20 2008 11:54 PM EDT

Ugh. Losing the premium account -hurts-

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 21 2008 1:13 AM EDT

Got researched lvl3 scouts. Who needs to know troops and ramparts of someone around them?

chuck1234 May 21 2008 5:08 AM EDT

thud!!! back on level ground, a hard fall this loss of premium account....hardest hit is my grain level, so a full day will be wasted in upping the farm lvls, maybe adding a mill.

Ranger, if you're reading this, go buy some nuggets, no go buy lotsa nuggets....you'll get extra bonuses on everything, and at the 1:1 merchant you can even get extra raw materials....spend like some do here at CB2, and you'll be top in the time it takes to built those oh-so-slow buildings....its like a perpetual NUB on steroids lol

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] May 21 2008 7:15 AM EDT

I just got 4 extra soldiers without training them, anyone know how this happened?
Was it from a building upgrade or possibly because someone sent them to me and I didn't get a report about it?

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] May 21 2008 7:36 AM EDT

maby its a race thing, train so many soldiers and get 4 for free

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] May 21 2008 8:16 AM EDT

I already had 4 for about 2 days before this happened

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 21 2008 8:22 AM EDT

Zog: I got 7 Tomahawk throwers for free about 8 hours ago. I assumed the game glitched. I sent all my offensive troops (all my archers and my 7 tomahawks) to attack one village, but then I still had 7 tomahawks left in my village. I figured I'd forgotten to click them, and sent that group on a separate raid. When the battle reports came in, however, I found that both raids had 7 tomahawks on them. It was odd, but nice.

Does anyone know if purchasing an attack upgrade for a certain type of unit at the academy will upgrade the units already extant, or if it only makes new units better?

chuck1234 May 21 2008 8:41 AM EDT

colonel,when you upgrade, it improves all units equally, the extant ones and any new ones

Bartman May 21 2008 8:53 AM EDT

How do I get some magic troops?! LOL

It would be nice if some would show up on my door! :)

Bartman May 21 2008 8:55 AM EDT

Once the embassy upgrades are complete I'll be able to concentrate on troops. The we'll see if a cowboy can reach the top 10!

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] May 21 2008 8:56 AM EDT

I think maybe there was a small glitch for a short period where if you had troops on a raid it doubled the attacking ones, my farmers didn't gain any.

Tezmac May 21 2008 9:03 AM EDT

So whats the next big thing to aim for after getting a stable? It seems that I read that researching the expansion points at the academy was kind of a big deal as it was a long term thing to be able to create a new village or something...

markxe May 21 2008 10:19 AM EDT

hope getting these cowboys was worth it !!!!!! and they dont just fall off their horses

QBRanger May 21 2008 10:44 AM EDT


I would certainly get scouts. Even at level 0, they can see the resources of other villages.

You need level 5 barracks and level 5 academy to be able to hire them, after researching them at the barracks.

QBOddBird May 21 2008 11:33 AM EDT

"Zoglog[T], 8:56 AM EDT
I think maybe there was a small glitch for a short period where if you had troops on a raid it doubled the attacking ones, my farmers didn't gain any."

I wish I'd caught that glitch, I've been sending my archers out 50 at a time

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 21 2008 11:38 AM EDT

Ok, well I figure since I'm the US Diplomat for this party, I needed scouts to see what we were dealing with.

Currently my scouts have the ability to see resources, troops numbers, rampart levels, and the levels for all the other buildings in their village. It took awhile, but I think it'll be worth it.

My resources are:

Holz 90 (+215) | Clay 166 (+215) | Iron 282 (+142) | Food 60 (+84) Food consumption 261/345 Zustimmung 100%

My barracks are at level 5. My rampart is at level 6. My hideout is level 6. My main is level 5. My academy is level 10. I have the stables and the cannon foundry. My mill is at level 2. My granary is level 4 (3100 capacity), and my Storage for raw materials is at level 7 (6300 capacity).

I have 30 archers, 5 riflemen, 5 tomahawk warriors, 15 mounted archers, 3 full level scouts, and 2 fire fiends.

What should I focus on next?

QBOddBird May 21 2008 11:40 AM EDT

Check out the number one guy in the alliance most competitive with us. Post what his stuff is, and I'll attack him - if anyone wants to do follow up attacks on him when he's weakened, feel free. ;'D

Bartman May 21 2008 12:33 PM EDT

Hey folks, just a reminder. We still need resources for the embassy upgrades. Normally I have 4-6 wagons inbound with resources to help. Right now there are none and It'll take days for the next upgrade if i have to rely on my raids and resource building to make it happen.

Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade:

Wood 5705 | Clay 4120 | Stone 4755 | Food 2535

Here are my current resources and builds:

Wood 532 (+94) | Clay 642 (+94) | Iron 1557 (+114) | Food 628 (+19)

My raw storage capacity is at at lvl 7 (6300) and my mill is at lvl 7 (5000) to accommodate the resources needed for the next upgrade.

Send some resources when you think about it. If everyone sends even a little bit, we'll be upgraded in no time. Thanks! :)

Lochnivar May 21 2008 1:06 PM EDT

Incoming in 7:21:22
1000 Wood
1000 Clay
1000 Iron

If my raids stopped sucking I could have sent more earlier.

Tezmac May 21 2008 1:11 PM EDT

I've noticed in the marketplace that some people can send to me a lot faster than I can send to them. How do I upgrade my transport times?

Khardin May 21 2008 1:14 PM EDT

I think it depends on what material is being shipped and what quantity

Bartman May 21 2008 1:24 PM EDT

Ask and you shall receive! Looks like the wagon trains are back on schedule. Thanks all! :)

QBRanger May 21 2008 1:52 PM EDT

I have 2 towns nearby. One score of 98 with 10 ponchos and the other score 75 with no troops.

Should I attack them?, they aren't in a clan.

And attack first then raid?

I have 51 archers to do the dirty work.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 21 2008 2:12 PM EDT

only raid ranger. just raid you need resources you don't need to kill of their troops

QBOddBird May 21 2008 4:28 PM EDT

Yep, no need to attack first, just raid like mad. In 20 minutes I'll get back 700 of each resource from my latest raid ;) bootyful!

Kong Ming May 21 2008 5:55 PM EDT

Any mexican here? I need to know how to get the other troops, currently can only train ponchos. My academy is at level 5 and I still don't see any other options.

j'bob May 21 2008 6:06 PM EDT

Kong, you have to research the next before you can make em. The next mexican is the pistolero. Next to the picture of the pistolero you'll see "Research -/- -/- -/- -/- -/- 940 700 1680 520" Thats the resources you need to have to research the pistolero BEFORE you can even make em. Click the little plus sign at the end of that row and you should be in business.
(I say "should" cause I still haven't done it yet.)

j'bob May 21 2008 6:09 PM EDT

By the way, at lvl 5 academy you should be able to reserch pistoleros AND el mariachi.

Pheather May 21 2008 6:15 PM EDT

^^ and caballerias as well.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 21 2008 9:13 PM EDT

I sent my level 3 (fully researched) Scouts to the guy who attacked Deifeln. Here's what my scout revealed:

Raid on Hakai by mejaļ¾ši (187|118)

Wood 373 | Clay 279 | Iron 547 | Food 697

Archer 7

Woodcutter Level 3
Woodcutter Level 3
Woodcutter Level 3
Woodcutter Level 3
Clay pit Level 3
Clay pit Level 3
Clay pit Level 3
Clay pit Level 3
Iron mine Level 3
Iron mine Level 2
Iron mine Level 3
Iron mine Level 3
Farm Level 4
Farm Level 4
Farm Level 4
Farm Level 4
Farm Level 4
Farm Level 3
Main Building Level 8
Granary Level 3
Storage for raw materials Level 4
Hideout Level 7
Barracks Level 5
Meeting place Level 1
Rampart Level 2
Market place Level 1
Stables Level 1
Academy Level 5
Embassy Level 3

QBOddBird May 21 2008 11:11 PM EDT

I sent my archers after him....only 7 hours until they arrive!

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 21 2008 11:24 PM EDT

Just a caution, everyone:

When attacking villages that have just come out of protection, make sure to check that they're not owned by another CBer who isn't in the alliance yet.

I mention this because phrog has set up camp about 2 spaces away from me. As I was experimenting with what my Tomahawk fighters' attack power could do for warfare, I happened to pillage his village, because he was out of protection and not in an alliance, so what did I have to lose? Well, I got an angry message back from him, at which point I immediately went "Oh yeah, there IS a phrog on CB..."

Anyway, he said he's not been too active on here lately, so he may or may not intend to join up with our alliance. I've sent him a message asking him about it.

P.S. I also sent him 15 archers to back up his village, to compensate for the troops he lost in my raid, as well as a promise to return resources to him once I'm able to send them.

Darkwalker [Jago] May 22 2008 12:05 AM EDT

In that case, is there a Felnor in CB? He's next to my town.....prime target for raiding.....

Bartman May 22 2008 7:51 AM EDT

Just completed the embassy upgrade (Level 15).

Sent invites to:

Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade (level 16):

Wood 7300 | Clay 5275 | Stone 6085 | Food 3245

Thats a total of 21,905 total resources!!! (whew)

With 42 (soon to be 45) members in the alliance, that breaks down to 522 resources per member. If everyone would send at least that much, we'll be able to get the next upgrade quickly.

There are several members, Ranger comes to mind, with extended transit times to my farm. The earlier the resources get sent the better.

We have 8 members left to add but it appears as though only 6 are still actively growing.

I'll continue to keep everyone updated.

(CB1)logan666 [Jago] May 22 2008 8:10 AM EDT

Sending some resources now but will take 7.5 hours to get to you :(

MonkeyMandate [Wasting Time] May 22 2008 8:16 AM EDT

i'll try and send some resources when i get some more. though i have just gone on a big research and building spree, so might take a while

Phrede May 22 2008 8:29 AM EDT

I'm still trickling some stuff across - should be able send another few hundred in an hour or so. I am trying to save for some troops as I have none :(

QBOddBird May 22 2008 11:50 AM EDT

I'll send when I have some available :)

on a side note, that dude got pounded for hitting deifeln! I took out all his troops. Mwahahaha

Bartman May 22 2008 1:13 PM EDT

Thanks all. Believe me, it all helps. I should have a update status for everyone this afternoon.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 22 2008 1:20 PM EDT

I got 5 extra tomahawk fighters for free :)

QBOddBird May 22 2008 1:24 PM EDT

You've got more coming from me as well, though it always takes hours to get there...

IndependenZ May 22 2008 4:47 PM EDT

I'd love some extra units. Ah well, I'll build them myself. Mwuhahaha :P

Vaynard [Fees Dirt Cheap] May 22 2008 5:00 PM EDT

Hey, I joined up on there a little while ago, haven't built an embassy yet, still trying to build up. How do you check if you're still under protection?

QBRanger May 22 2008 5:05 PM EDT


Protection is for 7 days.

QBRanger May 22 2008 5:09 PM EDT

If anyone needs resources converted, let me know.

I have some spare nuggets and can do so.

I only have 4k storage in my town, so I may have to build it up if people need this service a lot.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 22 2008 5:16 PM EDT

I can also provide an exchange service ^_^

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] May 22 2008 5:43 PM EDT

Can as well.....have nuggets and lvl5 market, upgrading storage as we speak since I woke with 5k iron this morning.

Phrede May 22 2008 6:37 PM EDT

me too - always there with the USD purchases :)

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] May 22 2008 7:17 PM EDT

smallpau1s village (208 / 256)

8DEOTWP May 22 2008 8:12 PM EDT

Lord Febo 156,198 [score 163]
killed some of my guys with 70 archers, he had 38 left after an attack and a raid.
dunno if you want to mess with him, but I'll help :)

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 23 2008 12:53 AM EDT

Scout Recon on Lord Febo:

Member of KOR. Score: 165

Raid on Hakai by Karantanija (156|198)

Wood 1292 | Clay 1771 | Iron 1577 | Food 784

Archer 67
Tomahawk fighter 3
Scout 2

Woodcutter Level 4
Woodcutter Level 4
Woodcutter Level 4
Woodcutter Level 4
Clay pit Level 4
Clay pit Level 4
Clay pit Level 6
Clay pit Level 4
Iron mine Level 4
Iron mine Level 3
Iron mine Level 4
Iron mine Level 4
Farm Level 6
Farm Level 6
Farm Level 6
Farm Level 5
Farm Level 6
Farm Level 6
Main Building Level 6
Granary Level 3
Storage for raw materials Level 4
Hideout Level 2
Barracks Level 6
Meeting place Level 1
Rampart Level 1
Mill Level 2
Market place Level 2
Stables Level 6
Academy Level 7
Embassy Level 2


Bartman May 23 2008 8:13 AM EDT

Still short about 7000 resources for the next embassy upgrade. Right now, the biggest need is wood.

If anyone is looking to send resources, wood would be first choice with clay a distant second. I have enough stone and food for now but will take it and convert if you send.

Thanks all. Added Phrog and Vanyard to my waiting list so we're up to nine left. That's only 3 upgrades and everyone is in our alliance!!

BluBBen May 23 2008 9:34 AM EDT

So one of out guys was attacked by a KOR memeber. Should we contact them and try to sort things out? Or maybe state some sort of example? But chanses are that if we attack again we might get pounded.

Where do we go from now?

Xenko May 23 2008 9:38 AM EDT

I'd say diplomacy at this point. We are still to weak to fight a war against them.

j'bob May 23 2008 9:47 AM EDT

+1. We bide our time. We're growing but still young. Yes they're growing as well, but face it. We'll be better. :)

Phrede May 23 2008 10:22 AM EDT

We should try and avoid too much confrontation with them - they are stronger but a war would not do either alliance any good. However they may well 'remember' and put us on the list. I though we were trying to go for A NAP wit them .

winner winner May 23 2008 10:24 AM EDT

If I turned bandit, can I make a new account?

Phrede May 23 2008 10:25 AM EDT

... and also they have 4 allies in the top 7 - I think we could get hammered at some stage (I have my doom and gloom cap on :) )

j'bob May 23 2008 10:41 AM EDT

... still Freda... I'm sure it's a very nice (and expensive) hat!
Our time will come. We're strong enough to hold our own. All out war should come later though when we're more prepared.

Mikel [Bring it] May 23 2008 12:06 PM EDT

Well I'm training Cowboys and Snipers out the wazoo, so I'm game for fights.

but I think we'd best wait a bit before jumping into a war with them.

If anyone starts up a new account, I would strongly suggest going indian.
I started one on Server 7, and I'm close to where I am at with my Cowboy, don't have the resources built up, but a ton more offense than I have with my Cowboys.

Bartman May 23 2008 1:50 PM EDT

Update on the embassy upgrade.

Current resources and what I will gather from incoming wagons still puts us approx 3300 short of reaching our resource goal. The areas short are still wood and clay.

Any help is appreciated! :)

Draugluin May 23 2008 1:54 PM EDT

I'm not sure where to ask this, so uh... how much can a merchant carry?

QBOddBird May 23 2008 2:12 PM EDT

Whenever war comes, we need to be prepared to strike first

After all, with the burning archers/indians, one can destroy fortifications and buildings, so whoever hits first has a huge advantage

if we wait too long and allow ourselves to be taken by surprise, we'll only have weakened ourselves

QBOddBird May 23 2008 2:13 PM EDT

Drauglin - 1000 total resources on each merchant

Since the burning units -can- destroy buildings and fortifications, I highly suggest we prepare for a coordinated assault. If we can destroy their resources/units/capability to produce more units, we'll win before they have a chance to hurt us back. Translation: blitzkrieg :)

QBRanger May 23 2008 6:46 PM EDT

What does "back up" when sending troops to an ally do?

Does it give them the troops, do the troops stay in their town for defense?

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] May 23 2008 6:54 PM EDT

smallpau1s village (208 / 256)

Can someone send some supplies my way so i dont have to wait 5+ hours to finish each building in the tutorial? Please?!

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] May 23 2008 6:54 PM EDT

btw, i just built a marketplace. Onto the Barracks right now, but again, need more food, then ill be back at 0 clay yet again, >.<

(CB1)logan666 [Jago] May 23 2008 8:12 PM EDT

Ranger, back-up troops can only be used for defense by the village that they are given too so if you send back-up troops then it's best to send defensive units.

smallpau1, resources can only be sent to members of your alliance freely and since you're not in the alliance yet we can't send you anything. You need an Embassy level 1 before you can join an alliance and it might be awhile before there is more room so it might be best to save the resources for it and up your farms. If you have extra food I found that offering 100 food for 150 of any other resource tended to get taken pretty quick so you might also try that. Maybe you can try to find an alliance member close to you and make a market deal that would be very good for you, something like 100 food for 300 clay. Right now my merchants are tied up sending resources to Bart for the embassy upgrade but if I have any free and notice an offer like that in the market I might help out.

FuriousHobo May 23 2008 9:07 PM EDT

i am planning to make a new alliance. Anyone interested? It will be called Carnoobers. :P btw, put me on the list. Killer.x.core (295 / 158)

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] May 23 2008 9:32 PM EDT

Aww, someone told me all i needed was to build a marketplace and they'd be able to send stuff to me, =/ If i knew i had to be in the alliance as well, i would've went ahead with the baracks instead, rofl, and then would've built the Marketplace. Oh well.

Draugluin May 23 2008 9:36 PM EDT

You do not have to be in the same alliance to make a resources trade. A resource trade can be set up in the accepter's favour, and thus in such a way, send resources to you, without you being in the alliance. Much like auction-trading here.

(CB1)logan666 [Jago] May 23 2008 9:54 PM EDT

I'm sorry small but perhaps I didn't make it that clear. Draugluin is right in that you don't have to be in an alliance to make market deals with someone you only have to be in an alliance to be sent free resources. Like I said though put some offers in the market at a 1:3 ratio(you offer 100 resources and get 300 of another in return type deal) and I try to help out if I have an extra merchant available. I'm upgrading my market now so should have an extra merchant available soon. You could even get lucky and have some random player take you up on the offer.

MonkeyMandate [Wasting Time] May 23 2008 10:10 PM EDT

should recieve 500 clay and iron in just under 3.5 hrs, for embassy upgrade. would of sent some wood as well, but i was running low on that

Bartman May 23 2008 11:29 PM EDT

Thanks all. The resources are well received!

I was finally able to upgrade the embassy (level 16).

Sent invites to:
Kong Ming

Here are the resources for the next upgrade:

Wood 9345 | Clay 6750 | Stone 7790 | Food 4155

Total resources needed: 28,040

This one could take a bit but it doesn't have to. 45 current members (plus 3 new) comes out to 624 resources per alliance member. Not too hard to reach if everyone pitches in.

I'll need to upgrade my raw resource storage to hold all that wood but I should reach that early tomorrow. If the resources come in, I should be able to update tomorrow afternoon.

Daz May 23 2008 11:37 PM EDT

Sending everything I had on hand:
504 Wood, 116 Clay, 511 Iron, 100 Food

Have I sent enough to make the top senders list yet? Or have I, in fact sent less than I thought I had?

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] May 24 2008 12:29 AM EDT

Hey Logan, i got the message that you accepted the offer, but i came back to my computer just now to see only 174 clay, =/ Just built a farm, so i only have 25 left. Why didn't i get the full 250, or did it just not go through yet?

Daz May 24 2008 12:35 AM EDT

if you click the marketplace, it should tell you how long it's going to take for the materials to arrive.

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] May 24 2008 12:38 AM EDT

Ahh, yes, i just saw that before i saw Daz's post, i got ~2:40 hours left, =)

Thanks Logan, Daz, =)

8DEOTWP May 24 2008 1:55 AM EDT

Lord Febo 156,198
raided twice again, this time he finished off all my units
he was left with 34 archers and 3 tomahawk fighters

QBOddBird May 24 2008 2:34 AM EDT

Bahahhaha, my firefiends will be ready tomorrow, I'll finally have a chance to use them!

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 24 2008 4:13 AM EDT

What's the story with this Lord Febo? How upped is his city? Should I wait until OB's firefiends hit to sweep in with my Toms, or should I just go for it? I have 100+ troops ready for combat, if need be.

On a related note, I just got back from a raid where I got 1700 of each resource. It's nice having a big army.

Bartman May 24 2008 9:53 AM EDT

I think it's time we sent a message to Lord Febo bout attacking one of ours. I'm 3 hours a way but don't have any offensive troops yet. I have an idea but would feel better about explaining in the alliance forums.

I'll see everyone there.

Bartman May 24 2008 10:12 AM EDT

Posted a message in the forums. Everyone needs to check in an read it.

I tried posting in Spydah's forum but he still needs to upgrade my permissions.

tWIsTEd May 24 2008 11:22 AM EDT

anyone have spare troops? this guy, wongnf, just started farming the hell out of me lol. btw I'm twisted on there as well.

QBOddBird May 24 2008 11:59 AM EDT

post his coordinates, we'll take him down a peg

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 24 2008 12:08 PM EDT

Ok, guys. I have more than 4 alliances all proposing NAPs, Allys or whatever. I have one alliance asking for our help to take down KOR, another to take down Crimson Braves... *sigh*

Also, when we pick do a NAP, must we also leave their allies alone?

We need to all get together and decide what's in our best interest. I need to know what you all want, so I can relay it to them. Maybe a chat room one night on CB?

Let me know...

QBOddBird May 24 2008 12:09 PM EDT

I'm probably being a little militaristic, but I propose we make an alliance with the one to take down KOR, do so, and then turn on them.

After all, the best defense is a good offense! If we knock out the players in our opposing alliances then nobody can beat us.

Kong Ming May 24 2008 12:12 PM EDT

Which forum do I go to to read the info, Bartman? I just sent some resources. You guys are really fast! I've got only 11 ponchos at the moment and my resources are not really up yet...

QBRanger May 24 2008 12:19 PM EDT

Click Embassy, then view clan. There will be a forum link, middle one I believe.

Xenko May 24 2008 12:21 PM EDT

Does the alliance that wants to take down KOR have actually helping? Or do they just want to use us? I think that it might be a useful proposition if they can actually help.

On the other hand, if we overtook 1st place again, I could see other alliances also forming against us, whereas at the moment everyone is probably concentrating on KOR.

AdminG Beee May 24 2008 12:33 PM EDT

/me puts on his CB Admin hat.

Might be a good time to start using the forum spydah set up for us to discuss the finer points of Wild Guns.


Xenko May 24 2008 12:33 PM EDT

For those interested in helping twisted:
wongnf's coordinates are 168 | 96. He has a score of 135 and is ranked 190th.

QBOddBird May 24 2008 12:49 PM EDT

Awwwww, spydah is the biggest sweetheart ever!

<3 to you.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 24 2008 12:51 PM EDT

Sent my scout but it's going to take 10 hours to get to him.

Also, G_Beee, I can't seem to use Spydah's forums... :(

It keeps telling me:

This board has no forums.

Xenko May 24 2008 12:53 PM EDT

After you register on spydah's forum, send him a message either here or on WG with the user name you signed up with on the forums. He will then add you so you can view the forums.

This is to prevent people not in the alliance from signing up and viewing our plans.

QBOddBird May 24 2008 1:06 PM EDT

Haha, clever. :)

j'bob May 24 2008 1:10 PM EDT

+1 to ob 12:09 today.
and yes, for everyone who follows to spydah's site. first register there. then come back here and cm him here telling him you registered there. he'll let you know when you're good to go (i think)
YAY spydah.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 24 2008 1:41 PM EDT

Ok, so I vote we make an NAP with KOR.

Look at 145|287

We cannot compete with that...lol

j'bob May 24 2008 2:20 PM EDT

"and we intend to form an in-game alliance and beat out all competition. "
those were ob's exact words in the first post.
I didn't join so that we could "join in with the bigger teams in the game..."
it's CB RULE OR BUST!!!!
but thats just me. ya know, go heavy or go home. :D

Bartman May 24 2008 2:24 PM EDT

I can see why he's so big, almost everyone around him is inactive. He' can raid to his hearts content without anyone retaliating.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 24 2008 2:25 PM EDT

I'm all for that, j'Bob...but at the moment, with all of us giving so much to Bart, we're not ready for a war...

I just want to make sure everyone is on the same page. Besides, it's not like NAPs are forever binding, hehehe

Bartman May 24 2008 2:29 PM EDT

Agreed. We should be finished with the embassy upgrades in a coupe of days, then everyone can concentrate on building war machines.

Then it'll be time to show everyone who we are, just not right now.

j'bob May 24 2008 2:29 PM EDT

yeah, looking at all that dead area around him makes one wonder... does it smell like MULTI in his neighborhood!!! oh cause i can smell what the multi is cooking!!! and what do we do to multies???? yeah yeah YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! ARRRGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

IndependenZ May 24 2008 3:29 PM EDT

lol, the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire...

Anyhow, I'm all for the NAP as well. We're not ready for an all out attack right now. Live to fight another day :p Oh, I'll join Spydahs forums later this weekend, as I'm kinda busy right now.

markxe May 24 2008 7:22 PM EDT

just sent a scout out to squares near Tymoniks he has a npc with resources of 3900 3900 3900 3900 and another 4 squares away from that of 2800 2800 2800 2800

spydah May 24 2008 8:23 PM EDT

24 members currently, with, I think, 2 more signed up that I am awaiting confirmation from to add. (wontan and jennicide I think?) If I don't see your registered name in the alliance, or here, and you don't send me a note (here, WG or on the forum) with who you are, then I'll ask others in the alliance if they know your handle.

I check the forums a few times a day for new peeps currently, but we are pretty far from our full alliance being over there!


Phrede May 24 2008 8:24 PM EDT

We need to let an admin know of this :(

8DEOTWP May 24 2008 9:26 PM EDT

From village: Karantanija
Duration: 40:08
Time of arrival: 25.05.08 03:40
Arrival in: 0:12:21

Daz May 24 2008 11:39 PM EDT

Joined Spydahs forum.

Just sent Bart 1k food. Hope you have room there, man.

Kong Ming May 25 2008 1:24 AM EDT

Just joined the forum as well.

8DEOTWP May 25 2008 6:26 AM EDT

Lord Febo raided me again, he's down to 20 archers from 27

chuck1234 May 25 2008 8:23 AM EDT

What's the optimum number of farmers for Cowboys? I've got 25 of a maximum 80, so should I increase their number as near the max, or just get it around 30-40ish?

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 25 2008 9:11 AM EDT

I'm not a cowboy, but it seems to me that they would pay for themselves, as they increase resource production. Plus added defense, even if it's not too good, is helpful.

Bartman May 25 2008 9:23 AM EDT

Just upgraded the embassy (level 17).

Sent invites to:

Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade: (level 18)

Wood 11965 | Clay 8640 | Stone 9970 | Food 5315

Unless I'm missing someone, I only have 3 folks left on my list to invite:

[unk] fangs

Am I missing anyone? If not, this will be that last embassy upgrade we need and everyone will be in!!!! :) Keep those resources coming!

Daz May 25 2008 9:51 AM EDT

Before I start attacking like a madman, I really need to check: Greys are inactive, right?

AdminG Beee May 25 2008 9:55 AM EDT

Yes. Try and find low level ones to start with in order to gauge who you're not going to lose units against.

For me at my level I find that attacking, lvl 4 & 5 is the best.

QBOddBird May 25 2008 9:56 AM EDT

That is, unless it is a gray ring around the town, which means they're in your alliance. Only attack if they are entirely in the gray.

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] May 25 2008 10:28 AM EDT

Forgot me, (But i don't have embassy just yet)


John Paul Jones (208 / 256)

AbbathorX May 25 2008 10:48 AM EDT

me too: AbbathorXs village (175 / 263)

Already have an embassy and everything. Currently working on my little pile of Mariachis.

Edicinnej May 25 2008 11:40 AM EDT

forgot me as well. tehe tipi (317 / 180)

Bartman May 25 2008 11:44 AM EDT

Added all three of you! Thanks for replying. I wanted to make sure I didn't forget anyone.

winner winner May 25 2008 11:46 AM EDT

so I'm in the alliance now?

Bartman May 25 2008 11:49 AM EDT

Are you serialkilla? If so you're in!

winner winner May 25 2008 11:49 AM EDT

wow, my score is pathetic

Bartman May 25 2008 12:00 PM EDT

No worries, you'll get back up there.

Check Fortunatto (Ranger). He got a late start and has already passed me on the leader board.

winner winner May 25 2008 12:00 PM EDT

haven't you been building up the embassy?

NSFY May 25 2008 12:03 PM EDT

Any more room in the alliance - could I be added to the wait list?

Bartman May 25 2008 12:20 PM EDT

Yeah, I'm the great embassy builder! LOL It's still a good sign to see folks are able to move up that fast.

Bartman May 25 2008 12:22 PM EDT

I just scrubbed the roster and added a few names form folks that I accidentally left off the list.

Here is the current wait list:

Inebriated arsonist - 136
Wotan - 122
Gigan - 112
Darmichar - 84
Annihilus - 81
Vaynard - 75
Jennicide - 65
SmallPau1 - 51

NSFY, I need your WG name and I'll add you to the list.

Kong Ming May 25 2008 12:23 PM EDT

Just sent some resources! No bonus really hurts ;)

Bartman May 25 2008 12:58 PM EDT

Pick up some nuggets and keep the bonus going. Most of us have already done it.

QBOddBird May 25 2008 1:50 PM EDT

Not meeee. I just wanna take the game over, not quite willing to spend money on it m'self ;'P

lostling May 25 2008 1:56 PM EDT

lostling have joined the game

NSFY May 25 2008 3:10 PM EDT

My WG name is NSFY 263/138.

lostling May 25 2008 3:16 PM EDT

lostlings village (181 / 288)

QBRanger May 25 2008 3:16 PM EDT

Wood 4040 | Clay 10105 | Iron 5050 | Food 6060 |Time 08:40:00 |Food Resources 2

To get to level 10 woodcutter.


AdminG Beee May 25 2008 3:22 PM EDT

What's your current refresh rate Ranger?
You can enter it in your profile on Spydah's forum and you'll see yours and everyone else's (providing they update of course) via the link he posted.

QBRanger May 25 2008 3:39 PM EDT

whats the link to the forum?

QBRanger May 25 2008 3:42 PM EDT

I tried but there are no forums. How do I set up a profile?

QBOddBird May 25 2008 3:46 PM EDT

If you meant on spydah's forums, Ranger, you won't see them until you CM spydah and let him know you signed up. They're currently hidden.

Xenko May 25 2008 3:50 PM EDT

Steps to Register for Spydah's WG Forum:
1. Go to http://www.spydah.com/forums/
2. Sign up. You will not see anything when you first sign up. This is to prevent people not in the CB alliance from seeing the forums.
3. Message Spydah on CB or on Wild Guns with the user name you used to sign up on the forum website.
4. Spydah will add you to the list, and then post away!

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 25 2008 6:03 PM EDT

lol I sent out an attack of 40 archers (I had 41) 8 tomahawk fighters and 4 mounted archers.

Looking afterwards my troops in the village still said i had 8 tomahawks and 4 mounted archers. I gained another free soldiers :)

Xenko May 25 2008 6:10 PM EDT

Did you actually send out your Tomahawks and Mounted Archers?

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 25 2008 6:19 PM EDT

yup i sent out 4 mounted archers and 8 tomahawk guys. They got duplicated in some strange way. Happened to me before but then it was only 5 tomahawks.

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 25 2008 7:27 PM EDT

I had the same thing happen, except with 77 tomahawk guys. That becomes a lot when it is doubled.

Xenko May 25 2008 7:38 PM EDT

That could seriously affect your food usage in a bad way if you don't have enough excess.

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 25 2008 7:51 PM EDT

Xenko, it did, but then I sent them on a couple raids and they brought back enough resources for a lvl 9 farm. I was at -77 food per hour for a while, but now I'm back up at +90-ish after some upgrades.

{CB1}[umk]Fangs May 25 2008 9:49 PM EDT

did I get an invite yet?

hmm... my increased production will run out in a few hours from now... >_> i suppose it's time to build up troops for raids now

Bartman May 25 2008 10:42 PM EDT

You are on the next invite list after the current upgrade.

I'm not even close to the upgrade yet. I've had some large donations but I'm still short on Wood and Clay.

As soon as I upgrade, you'll be on the next invite list.

AdminG Beee May 25 2008 11:15 PM EDT

Sent 1k wood.

Vaynard [Fees Dirt Cheap] May 25 2008 11:23 PM EDT

Not sure how far down the list I'll be, but that's fine. I'll have an embassy after 10 more minutes of build time. Hope to see you all soon!

{CB1}[umk]Fangs May 25 2008 11:28 PM EDT

oh, ok... i thought I might have missed it cuz I wasn't able to log on here or there the past 2 days...

man, losing the resource production bonus really hurt my food production >_> from 70+ to just 37... now I need to upgrade my farms some more again.

winner winner May 26 2008 7:37 AM EDT

how does 25% take you from 37 to over 70?

AdminG Beee May 26 2008 7:39 AM EDT

It's on your total before reductions.

Draugluin May 26 2008 7:47 AM EDT

Does this include farmers?

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] May 26 2008 9:35 AM EDT

Just started my embassy, finished the tutorial finally!

lostling May 26 2008 9:44 AM EDT

40 minutes till im done with my 1st upgrade of town hall :) and another 40 minutes i guess for the next upgrade

Bartman May 26 2008 10:29 AM EDT

I finally got a chance to update my embassy donations spreadsheet;

Congrats and many thanks go to the top 5 contributors to our embassy growth:

J'Bob - 19,500
Wrathless - 14,250
Sox jr - 8700
Stingiestbard - 8490
Deifeln - 8055

The average amount donated is : 3,960

Now for the not so good:
We have 8 players who have not donated anything.
We have an additional 2 players who donate last week but nothing this week.
5 players who have donated less than 500
1 player less than 1000

I'm going to send messages to the 16 players under 1000 donated and post the info in our forum so everyone can see where we stand.

We need EVERYONE to help out if we're going to accomplish our goal of getting everyone in the alliance.

As it stands right now, we did not upgrade the embassy yesterday and I'm still 11,036 short of the upgrade an only 3 wagons inbound.

Once again, wood and clay are the most needed resources.

Please donate freely.

QBOddBird May 26 2008 10:32 AM EDT

I have no problem donating when I can, but unfortunately right now I'm trying to play 'catch-up' to everyone else resource-wise. I dunno if any of those messages are for me (not sure if it has been a week yet since I donated last) but I simply can't do it yet.

QBRanger May 26 2008 10:35 AM EDT


I have 1500 wood, 350 clay and 700 iron coming to you.

10 hours to get it all.

Pheather May 26 2008 2:45 PM EDT

Just got a lot of my army wiped out by f1d0, who's part of Killers of Revenge. Anyone else getting attacked by KoR?

AdminG Beee May 26 2008 2:49 PM EDT

I've offered to approach KoR with a proposal of a NAP. Waiting on feedback from Bartman on whether he wants me to go ahead or not.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 26 2008 2:52 PM EDT

I am terribly sorry. I've been so busy this past week, I haven't had much of a chance to focus on WGs much. This week though, I should be able to finally negotiate alliances and such.

I sent 1000 wood, and 333 each of the other resources. More to follow. ^_^

AdminG Beee May 26 2008 2:55 PM EDT

Hakai, don't worry about it :)

Their leader is a guy called Bardogan. He's in my timezone (well +1) as he comes from DK. I'm happy to approach him as the CB Euro Diplomat :) if you wish.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 26 2008 4:00 PM EDT

Thanks, G_Beee, that'd be great ^_^

I think an NAP with them is a good thing, seeing as there's 100% approval rating of a NAP with KOR anyway in Spydah's forums...

I am in too much of a hurry to deal with the no spell check tags, so this sentence is in it's place. -_-

AdminG Beee May 26 2008 4:03 PM EDT

OK, in that case I'm on it.

/me grabs a bottle of scotch and heads on over to KoR's place...

Phrede May 26 2008 4:10 PM EDT

Best of luck with that G_Beee

AdminG Beee May 26 2008 4:26 PM EDT

OK, it's done - message sent. I'll update on the spydah forums...

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] May 26 2008 5:32 PM EDT

700 wood and 300 clay will be there from me in 5 hours. Sorry my donations are so wimpy. I suppose I should get my marketplace higher than lvl 1 soon...

AdminG Beee May 26 2008 5:47 PM EDT

Message from the KoR leader:

"It would be cool if we could upgrade to allied but your desision"

Check the spydah forum for the detail and follow up discussion folks...

PS. He's the one with spelling issues, not me :p

QBOddBird May 26 2008 7:11 PM EDT

No worries, it only took me a quick look at their profile to realize that one, Beee ;'D

QBOddBird May 26 2008 9:15 PM EDT

Everyone, please check the Spydah forum, subforum "attack coordination" topic "War."

Please read through all arguments presented by all players before you give your input, as there are arguments to be made towards the decision we will choose. Everyone should have a voice, but no voice should be ignored.

Keep in mind we are trying to dominate the game, not find our place within it and settle down. ;)

QBsutekh137 May 26 2008 9:18 PM EDT

As far as the spelling issues, tell him you'll cut him with a rusty SCISOR.

CB sty-uuul.

Bartman May 26 2008 10:54 PM EDT

Just upgraded the embassy again (level 18):

Thanks to all who have helped.

Sent invites to:
Inebriated Arsonist

Here are the resources needed for the next upgrade:

Wood 15315 | Clay 11060 | Stone 12760 | Food 6805

I'll need to upgrade my storage for raw materials again (level 12) to hold the wood.

Try to consider donating wood, stone, clay, food in that order. The wood still seems the hardest to get, followed by clay.

6 more players and we'll be done. We'll also have the largest alliance by 15 members!

lostling May 26 2008 11:04 PM EDT

/me waves at bartman me me me me hehe too bad my embassy aint up yet

{CB1}[umk]Fangs May 26 2008 11:15 PM EDT

finally got some troops for raiding... ^_^
do you guys raid only bandits around you or also other villages?
most bandits around me have very low scores and I get only a few hundred resources from them >_>

Mikel [Bring it] May 26 2008 11:49 PM EDT

Yes I raid most of the bandits around me, if there is many of them and you have alot of troops, send the troops out in batches of 25 and plunder what ever you can get. Better than sending too many and getting next to nothing. At least this way, you can hit them multiple times before draining their resources.

{CB1}[umk]Fangs May 27 2008 1:20 AM EDT

I can only spare 15 at the moment... I'm still traing up my troops now with the plundered loot ^_^
getting around 160 of each resource every 20 mins from the raids... I should have trained up my troops a long time ago lol

Kong Ming May 27 2008 2:35 AM EDT

Sorry for sending food most of the time. I always have a lot more food. Bartman, can I continue sending food or do I try to get it exchanged to wood?

8DEOTWP May 27 2008 2:38 AM EDT

he can exchange it using premium

Draugluin May 27 2008 2:44 AM EDT

3 nuggets a pop, wasn't it? In any case, I'm sorry for sending so little and when I do mostly food. Trying to upgrade my resources, and with only 1 merc to run around with, a thousand a shot is all :S

Kong Ming May 27 2008 3:45 AM EDT

Tried raiding several times. Have been losing one poncho every now and then. Should I build up a larger no before continuing with the raids? Have 14 ponchos left.

BluBBen May 27 2008 3:46 AM EDT

I think you need 22 ponchos to be sure to never lose any of them. Attacking on defened villages that is.

AdminG Beee May 27 2008 3:48 AM EDT

Sent another 1k wood.

{CB1}[umk]Fangs May 27 2008 4:06 AM EDT

I raid bandits without any troops defending and I still lose 1 poncho every few times... I guess it depends on the luck % during the attack?
I noticed that I lose one when it goes over -15%.

Kong Ming May 27 2008 4:10 AM EDT

What is the role of beer? Will it increase our luck in battles/ raids?

Draugluin May 27 2008 4:17 AM EDT

I suppose its most likely some indicator of approval rating for you. So if you lose enough of it, you'll get booted and whoever's plying your citizens with it gets your town. You know, like whiskey treks and stuff.

AdminG Beee May 27 2008 4:23 AM EDT

Kong Ming - check out the WG forums for more info on how the Tavern and alcohol works.

AdminG Beee May 27 2008 9:30 AM EDT

OK - it's done. KoR have agreed to an alliance with the condition that no further alliances will be created.

Now - I suggest we stop using this forum and driving everyone who doesn't play WG mad, and start using the excellent forum Spydah has set up for us.

j'bob May 27 2008 11:21 AM EDT

Here here, pip pip and all that!
course, it would be neat to see just how many posts we can total here. not spamming and such of course.
Is there a record for such a thing?
I have a legit question, but I'll seek the answer on spydah.com!

QBOddBird May 27 2008 11:47 AM EDT

That would've been that spammy old "1 word answer" thread.

Also, if this thread is to be closed, I'd like to see the instructions on how to register for spydah's forum as the last post here...

AdminG Beee May 27 2008 11:52 AM EDT

I didn't say I was going to close it. I just think it would be polite to use the one dedicated to us on spydah's boards and stop hogging the CB boards to talk about another game :)

Steps to register for the Spydah boards are on the first post on this thread :)

QBOddBird May 27 2008 11:54 AM EDT

Ah, ok. And thanks, admin Beee :)

Drakon(DS) May 27 2008 12:03 PM EDT

i just started playing and i dont know how to conquere other villages

QBRanger May 27 2008 12:35 PM EDT

You sent out troops to either raid or attack.

You have to have troops first to do so.

Use the World Map to see other villages. Grey ones are inactive/NPC's.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 27 2008 12:37 PM EDT

Use your Booze wagons to conquer other villages. Wiskey trek, firewater trek and the tequila trek.

BooDiggens May 27 2008 8:47 PM EDT

Got raided by Dogus from the Killerz of Revenge Alliance. What kind of name is that? I know I'm not in the CB alliance but anyone want to seek retribution on my behalf?

QBOddBird May 27 2008 8:49 PM EDT

Hehe. I think we should. ;)

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 27 2008 8:51 PM EDT

We can't... We have an NAP with them. Message them back saying you're on the waiting list for the CB alliance. That should cease attacks. If it doesn't contact G_Beee or myself, either in game or in a CM.

8DEOTWP May 27 2008 9:54 PM EDT

KoR alliance is probably the last one you want to mess with 8D

DH May 27 2008 11:23 PM EDT

I broke my village. im not in the alliance to buy or receive res support to fix it..any suggestions...i managed to stagnate my food supply. oops.


Poorage May 27 2008 11:27 PM EDT

is this like a strategy game like utopia? cause im so sick of those

DH May 27 2008 11:32 PM EDT

1. Dont troll,
2. any of you wait listers help me out...i broke my town and am in need of a pity shipment of food. I'll love you long time.

or ill pay you...either way.


Daz May 27 2008 11:33 PM EDT

"I broke my village. im not in the alliance to buy or receive res support to fix it..any suggestions...i managed to stagnate my food supply. oops.


Find someone really big and attack them. When your troops get maimed, you'll have a little bit of an income. Or attack inactive people with them and get food. If you don't have any troops, then... um...

DH May 27 2008 11:34 PM EDT

I suck...no troops.

Daz May 27 2008 11:34 PM EDT

Oh. Use the market to trade.

DH May 27 2008 11:39 PM EDT

I still suck...no market yet. I fail at this game lol

j'bob May 27 2008 11:41 PM EDT

DH, what exactly is broke? A little time may be all you need. Let us know exactly what the problem is. :D

DH May 27 2008 11:42 PM EDT

I stagnated out my food source...as in im not generating any due to too many upgrades and im completely out of food. I didnt know buildings cut down on + to food per hour

j'bob May 27 2008 11:52 PM EDT

You're not producing ANY food at all? Did you already build an embassy? If that's the case the only thing I can think of is to wait to accept the invite to the alliance and we can send you some food. Otherwise I don't know, the game says the following about food consumption but it's kinda vague...

Food consumption
You have to be always in plus, normally it is not possible to come to minus. What means if you have only + 1 in food production you have to level up the fields before you can build up other things.
At the moment there are only a few possibilities to drop to minus in food consumption.
After completing the tutorial you get the premium account with 25% bonus on food. if you build up only other things there could be the chance that you drop to minus after the premium ended. On the other side there are military units that can destroy buildings. If someone destroying your mill you can also drop to minus. But this is not
tested yet. But if you level your cornfields, you can get back to normal. If you are in minus you can only level up your cornfields.

DH May 28 2008 12:05 AM EDT

I Mailed a GO or whatever earlier in the evening, he just responded...apperently i it was incorrectly displaying my food(i just needed to hit my refresh button). im at +1 food. so i just got to camp for about 72 hours till i get enough to build a farm.

Kong Ming May 28 2008 12:49 AM EDT

Do you have a marketplace? Go trade your other resources for food so that you can upgrade your farms.

QBOddBird May 28 2008 3:37 AM EDT

DH, May 27
I still suck...no market yet. I fail at this game lol

lostling May 28 2008 11:41 AM EDT

lostling has got an embassy :) invite me when you can please~ :)

Daz May 28 2008 11:43 AM EDT

Sent another 4k resources. Hope you have room for 3k much food!

Daz May 28 2008 11:44 AM EDT

*3k food. That'll teach me to not edit my sentences and then not reread them. Or not, but we can dream.

Bartman May 28 2008 2:35 PM EDT

Thanks Dazs! It's helping a bunch!

I'm still short just over 5,000 in resources to make the next upgrade. Having said that, I've received over 20,000 in the last 36 hours from the team so, great job!

If you haven't donated in the last 2 days, it would help a bunch if you did.

If resources keep coming in, 5 wagons currently inbound, we should be able to upgrade today. That should leave us with 3 left on the waiting list after the current 3 join.

NSFY May 28 2008 3:02 PM EDT

Does that include me pretty please?

NSFYs village (263 / 138)

DH May 28 2008 3:13 PM EDT

Bart, did you get my in game message to add me to the queue for waitlist?

As you can tell from a few messages ago...i messed up my town so im tryin to recover a bit before i send you some RES

IndependenZ May 28 2008 3:27 PM EDT

500 clay and 1000 food on its way, Bartman. Only 90 minutes :)

Can't afford to lose any wood or iron though.

Phrede May 28 2008 4:09 PM EDT

I think we may need another Group/Alliance soon :)

8DEOTWP May 28 2008 4:11 PM EDT

/motions towards AoD

AdminG Beee May 28 2008 4:21 PM EDT

60 members is the capacity and we're at 54 now.

Creating another alliance isn't a good idea given that the deal we struck with KoR was based on them not allying with anyone else - it'd be a bit rich if we were to do so :)

I suggest anyone who is left on the "outside" gets in touch with Bartman and we try and identify who from the current members has gone inactive and no longer plays. Inactive users can be kicked and space made as a result. Alternatively, un-allied players could contact KoR or one of their recognised allies and get in that way.

Un-allied players should put some text in their profile along the lines of "Protected by the Carnage Blender Alliance", or something like that...

MPetro789 May 29 2008 1:46 AM EDT

Bartman, if I can get the last spot I'll be fortunate to have it. I was trying to get to Spydah's forums to request this. Somehow I'm not getting something right with that. Petroville 161/204. If not well....I guess I just should have said something sooner. Anyway I'd still like to be part of the forums even if I can't be in the alliance.

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] May 29 2008 4:32 AM EDT

I'm still waitlisted.

Bartman May 29 2008 9:24 AM EDT

Just upgraded the embassy!!!! (Level 19)

Sent invites to:

Booted Godwolf for non-support of our alliance and inactivity. He's not provided any support to our alliance upgrades and his char hasn't grown at all in the last 2 weeks.

Sent messages to 6 others for non-support and will boot them to provide spots for the remaining folks on the list if they continue non-support of our efforts.

This will be the last embassy upgrade!!!! Level 20 is as high as the embassy can grow. Here are the resources needed to complete the upgrade:

Wood 19600 | Clay 14155 | Stone 16335 | Food 8710

The requirements have gone up considerably in the last 2 upgrades. As you can see, wood and stone are the highest requirements and, as usual, wood and clay are going to be my biggest requirements. My stone capability seems better than the other 2.

Send what you can and we'll complete the upgrade as soon as i am able to collect the resources needed.

Thanks again everyone for all your help!!!

QBOddBird May 29 2008 11:11 AM EDT

I don't think Jenni is in the alliance.

Bartman May 29 2008 11:26 AM EDT

Not yet but she's on the wait list. Currently #3

AdminLamuness May 29 2008 1:23 PM EDT

Sending resources: 400 wood, 400 iron. Sorry, I only have 1 merchant.

Arrival At: 30.05.08 00:55 5:32:47
Duration: 5:32:22

QBOddBird May 29 2008 1:31 PM EDT

Mine will arrive in about 3 hours...

QBOddBird May 29 2008 1:34 PM EDT

"Creating another alliance isn't a good idea given that the deal we struck with KoR was based on them not allying with anyone else - it'd be a bit rich if we were to do so :) "

I thought you said earlier that they had sister alliances?

AdminG Beee May 29 2008 1:38 PM EDT

They do, and the deal was they'd take on no more.

I also said, "Alternatively, un-allied players could contact KoR or one of their recognised allies and get in that way."


j'bob May 29 2008 1:38 PM EDT

They do, they have several others. I think it is worth approaching them about in an open manner. Make them aware that we are only looking to get all of our own people in and not seek members from the game in general. Put it to them as a sort of CB1 part Dos.

QBOddBird May 29 2008 1:40 PM EDT

I am not particularly eager about the idea of limiting ourselves via our alliance with them. If we need to expand, we should do so and let them know that our # of alliances won't exceed their number.

However, I don't care for the idea of "yeah, we won't make more than 1 alliance if you promise to ONLY keep your five."

AdminG Beee May 29 2008 2:01 PM EDT

Well Spydah has opened up a section of his forums for both KoR and __CB__ to use. You can introduce yourself to them over there and get to know them OB :)

QBOddBird May 29 2008 2:25 PM EDT

..except only CBers have posted there. We need KoR people to sign up for that to work ;'P

NSFY May 29 2008 3:50 PM EDT

I don't see me on any waiting lists - I think I first requested to be put on it on the 25th. Is there some other procedure?

Phrede May 29 2008 4:45 PM EDT

quick question - have KoR agreed to our rider ?

AdminG Beee May 29 2008 4:52 PM EDT

Yes they've agreed not to add any more allies.

They've also agreed to share the spydah forum board. They only have access to the Ally chat but it's a good place to start plotting the downfall of other alliances on our server.
Quicker we get to know these guys the better imo - it can only help us.

AdminQBVerifex May 29 2008 5:20 PM EDT

I like my forums better: http://defhoboz.biz/forum/ ;)

Phrede May 29 2008 5:34 PM EDT

Its a good forum for people without keyboards - one of my favorites.

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drudge May 29 2008 6:08 PM EDT

is that CoC with a backwards C at the end?

Edicinnej May 29 2008 6:15 PM EDT

It's a highly stylized CB. I can do something more traditional if that is what people would prefer. The thing in the middle is suppose to be sort of like a fireball, which kind of ties WG->CB.

j'bob May 29 2008 7:15 PM EDT

i though it was for the return of Corrosion of Conformity.

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] May 29 2008 9:19 PM EDT

Ugh! don't remind me of that band JB, had a few good tracks then kind of tapered into normality.

{CB1}[umk]Fangs May 29 2008 11:17 PM EDT

I sent 250 wood, 500 clay, 250 food.
it will arrive in around 8 hours its all I could spare at the moment since I'm still trying to upgrade my resource production, and I only have 1 merchant too lol

QBOddBird May 30 2008 8:42 AM EDT

How much do you lack now, Bartman?

QBRanger May 30 2008 9:35 AM EDT

Got my first settler under production.

Will let you know how it goes.

Bartman May 30 2008 11:51 AM EDT

Rough count shows me to be about 16,000 short. Total resources needed for this upgrade is 58,000 so we're getting close!

AdminG Beee May 30 2008 11:57 AM EDT


Can you work out how much of your own resource you've used for the upgrades?
You've sacrificed the first couple of weeks of your own village unselfishly in order to create a safe place for us to play. It's only fair that we at least compensate you with some of the resource as pay back so that you can get up on your feet with all of the things you didn't build.

Phrede May 30 2008 12:01 PM EDT

Also we need to work out what to do with all the people on the waiting list.

Bartman May 31 2008 11:21 AM EDT

We made it!!! We finally upgraded our embassy to Level 20!!!

As expected, this was the last upgrade allowed by the game. The message i got was: " This building has been fully expanded"

Sent invites to:

That leaves the following still on the wait list:

I'm flying today but when I get home, I'll go through all the wagon train logs and see where we stand. After that's done, I'll talk with Freed and a few other large supporters to see what to do about moving some folks around.

Thanks everyone for all your support! :)

DH May 31 2008 11:49 AM EDT

well that kinda sucks...now that you are fully built theres no need to send you res. that kinda makes it difficult for me to get in hahah...since i wasnt able to "buy" my way in like the rest. oh well. i guess ill patiently wait for a slot.

QBRanger May 31 2008 5:42 PM EDT

Anyone know if one can combine troops from 2 of your own villages?

iBananco [Blue Army] June 1 2008 1:42 AM EDT

I thought I was on the waitlist?

QBOddBird June 1 2008 1:51 AM EDT

yes, well I also thought Jenn was #3, but apparently she got shifted down to #5 for helping make logos. I don't know, I'm confused too.

Phrede June 1 2008 2:16 AM EDT

The only way that we can do this is some diplomacy with KoR to see if they mind us creating another alliance cb2 or whatever expolaining the problem that we have. I do not then mind running it as a feeder group for cb1 - something like all those below x exp go into cb2 group and those above stay in cb1. Do we know yet whether a second village's Embassy allows extra members i.e. if Bartman creates a second village it will allow more members into the allowance. I am sure it used to in Travian as there were some pretty big alliances.

AdminG Beee June 1 2008 4:12 AM EDT

I've asked: on the WG boards.

Phrede June 1 2008 6:26 AM EDT

So we do need to create another alliance to get our other pals onboard.

AdminG Beee June 1 2008 7:27 AM EDT

For me let's wait and see what Bartman has to say.
I think he said he's going to be travelling over the weekend but will have a look at the current member list when he gets back. He may very well end up making some space after going through the list and ejecting inactive members.

QBRanger June 1 2008 7:50 AM EDT

A second village is in the alliance as the alliance is for the player, not the village.

ActionAction June 1 2008 11:01 AM EDT

We really should get some more people registered on Spydah's forums. This giant thread is useful to keep us updated from time to time, but it's not meant to take the place of an entire forum x__x.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] June 1 2008 3:31 PM EDT

[CB2] Carnage blender2
i got my alliance back, go me :D

QBRanger June 1 2008 4:06 PM EDT


For once I agree with you.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] June 1 2008 4:46 PM EDT

so whoever isnt in that alliance can join me

Phrede June 2 2008 12:22 AM EDT

well done AoD

Wizard'sFirstRule June 2 2008 1:09 AM EDT

bravo, bravo indeed, Mr Angel.

Vaynard [Fees Dirt Cheap] June 2 2008 3:00 AM EDT

I just joined with AoD, go us!

QBOddBird June 3 2008 11:22 AM EDT

You should send out some invites then, AoD, only one member in your alliance thus far...find out who needs in

lostling June 3 2008 11:23 AM EDT

me too i guess... but im still hoping bart would find me a place :)

j'bob June 3 2008 12:21 PM EDT

just as a matter of record AoD, I was behind ya from the get go! ;p

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] June 3 2008 12:55 PM EDT

people that want to join me should pm me, i donno who all play and isn't in the alliance

{cb1}Linguala June 3 2008 1:41 PM EDT

lost, take my place in Bart's and I'll join with AoD, same time zone and such...way easier :-)

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] June 3 2008 1:55 PM EDT

Bart had the list a few posts up somewhere, i need in still as well. But i figured we were all waiting for Bart to go through the alliance to see who was inactive, because i highly doubt everyone in there plays even now. What is it, 60 in the alliance? I see the same 5-10 people posting here and in the spydah forums, not near 60, lol.

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] June 3 2008 1:58 PM EDT

That leaves the following still on the wait list:

I think Vaynard should take Lings place as he joined before all of us still waiting.

drudge June 3 2008 4:02 PM EDT

ya bartman is lazy leader

winner winner June 3 2008 4:12 PM EDT

umm, how did Bartman get to 16th so fast?

AdminG Beee June 3 2008 4:30 PM EDT

Points from the embassy upgrades.

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] June 3 2008 4:51 PM EDT

i got 18 invites left, so pm on cb or wg

Bartman June 3 2008 5:26 PM EDT

Got the numbers posted in Spydah's forum. Freed and I are discussing options right now.

I dismissed Hzarb for lack of support and sent invite to Jennicide. Vaynard will be the next up.

We may possibly have several more spots open up today.

Bartman June 3 2008 5:46 PM EDT

FYI on my stats for anyone who's interested or concerned. Most of my points have been gathered through embassy upgrades, raw materials storage and grain storage.

The raw materials and grain storage upgrade were required so I could hold the resources of each type needed for the embassy upgrades.

Here are my resources growth rates:

Wood (+189) | Clay (+215) | Iron (+246) | Food (+73) Food consumption 402/475

Most of my resource upgrade have come in the last several days, AFTER the last embassy upgrade. Even these numbers are far behind other players at my score level.

Right now my char is way skewed to the embassy and my other upgrade have suffered while I was focussed on getting our alliance upgraded and filled up.

I challenge anyone who thinks I have been using donated resources for my own personal gain while we were upgrading the embassy.

If anyone recalls, I was in 3rd place when I built my embassy and dropped to the mid 30's while the upgrades were being built. My char fluctuated between 25-35 until the last embassy upgrade was completed.

Right now, I'm playing catch up to try to get my academy, tavern, stables, etc. up tot he point of the rest of our alliance.

If it sounds like I'm venting, I am. I take offense an anyone who even hints that I was working at anything other than the best interest of our alliance.

QBOddBird June 3 2008 5:50 PM EDT

Don't worry Bartman, we know. :)

And we <3 you for biting the bullet to help the alliance. I'll send you some resources to help you up on your feet soon.

iBananco [Blue Army] June 3 2008 6:22 PM EDT

Again, I'm still not on the invite list. >:l

Bartman June 3 2008 6:26 PM EDT

Linguala moved over to AoD's Alliance.

Sent invite to Vaynard.

Little Anthony June 3 2008 6:44 PM EDT

i will try my best with the resource thing. I did this game so wrong that my production is quite too low. Give me extra time.

lostling June 3 2008 7:13 PM EDT

*waves at bart* mememe

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] June 3 2008 7:33 PM EDT

So the lsit leaves:

Are we doing it in this order or what? I assume that's what's going on?

Bartman June 3 2008 7:55 PM EDT

I've been sending invites based on size and support to the alliance. I just sent out 18 messages and I assume I'll get a couple that may want to jump over to AoD but we'll see.

Here are the current score for folks on the wait list:
Annihilus - 125
SmallPau1 - 101
dirtyhippy - 81
Lostling - 93
JSbot - 142

Lat 2 invites went to
Jennicide - 184
Vaynard - 135
JSbot would have received the second invite but I forgot he wasn't on the list, sorry.

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] June 3 2008 8:06 PM EDT

Bart, there are some resources on their way to help you out.

Thank you for being our alliance leader.

DH June 3 2008 9:52 PM EDT

thats cool, i don't mind waiting for a slot even if it takes a month tbh. Im totally addicted to the game so i don't think im going anywhere.


deifeln June 4 2008 8:23 AM EDT

Perhaps the non-clan CB players could be 'spies.' Try to get a high score and then apply for membership in another clan :o)

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] June 4 2008 9:03 AM EDT

or they could join me delp

QBRanger June 4 2008 9:18 AM EDT

As we have more people that want to play then can fit into 1 clan, I think having 2 clans is a good idea.

I will change to AoD's clan if needed. To balance them out if that is desired.

AdminG Beee June 4 2008 9:30 AM EDT

Ranger, I think we should wait a while before making such decisions.

I expect __CB1__ to reduce in numbers as people stop playing and become inactive. I think in 1 months time we will be doing well to still have 60 Carnage Blender players active in Wild Guns.

Of course, that's an assumption on my behalf :)

AoD should be compensated in the same way that Bartman was for increasing his embassy. I understand a player can leave an alliance and join a new one for long enough to make a market trade and then back again. This is a way around the problem of transfers outside of alliances.
They're not as sophisticated with their alliance cooldowns as Jon is over here on CB :)

j'bob June 4 2008 9:43 AM EDT

+1 with the Beee.
And I think we'll do better to keep growing with in our (2) CB alliances until we see where we stand in some time as opposed to joining other groups to spy. Though it does sound fun.
If only AoD hadn't disbanded his first alliance.
/me sighs and hugs the wacky soul collector!

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] June 5 2008 5:20 AM EDT

im still waiting for ppl asking for invites

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] June 5 2008 9:34 AM EDT

If someone could go and check out Spydah's forums in the Strategy section and help me out, it'd be much appreciated!! :D

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] June 5 2008 12:45 PM EDT

Ok, so it appears that Gun can still not see the forums, and I'm guessing that there are others. So I'm going to post here. Please forgive the double post in advance hehe.

Also, I realize that people have already posted their replies in the thread. No need to add them here, I suppose, as I can read them there. This is mainly for the people that cannot seem to access the forum.

POST #1:

Ok, so I've been trying to decide where to put my new settlement. I originally had planned to put it right next to me, but the raiding around my area kinda sucks. I also thought about putting myself near Gun, so our attacks could hit at the same time, but I'm not sure about that either. Then I thought I'd put myself right in the middle of all the top players to give myself easier access to them, but.... *sigh*

What do you guys think? Where is my prime real estate spot? hehe

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] June 5 2008 12:46 PM EDT

Make that a triple post... :(

POST #2:

I'd like to take down PFF... :D

So. I have dozens of their members surrounding me, and I'm sick of not being able to farm anyone because of them. I would love to orchestrate a takedown of their alliance. My coordinates are Hakai's Hideout (196 / 225).

As you can see, there's like 15 of them around me in the different directions. 3 of their members are less than an hour from me, plus they have a supply village less than an hour away as well.

What do you guys think? Too early?

chuck1234 June 5 2008 1:51 PM EDT

PFF is KOR's ally, KOR is our ally; so no deal, PFF is OUT OF BOUNDS, sorry to disappoint ya ;)

QBOddBird June 5 2008 1:54 PM EDT

I'm good with helping you take them down. :)

j'bob June 5 2008 2:06 PM EDT

um, hello... unless they're attacking her... we can't break treaty...(we just made the dern thing!)

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] June 5 2008 2:18 PM EDT

Well, in case no one has noticed, that then leaves only 2 of the top 10 clans that we can attack...

That seems a bit ridiculous... I think it's perhaps time to discuss their ally choices with them...

AdminG Beee June 5 2008 2:21 PM EDT

They haven't allied with anyone since we did. In fact, they've broken an alliance at our request when we reminded them of the terms we agreed when setting up our own alliance.

I don't understand the rush to go toe to toe with KoR. If there's 2 others in the top 10 - go for them first, we can worry about the others later.

j'bob June 5 2008 2:28 PM EDT

um and aren't there lots of lil non allied huts and tee pees out there?
lets start slowly people

QBOddBird June 5 2008 2:31 PM EDT

=( I wanna take the game over, as per original post. We're sharing it. -That's- why I'm in a rush to go toe to toe with KoR: they're our competition.

I would like to eventually mount an assault on them, both CB alliances, and remove them. If our diplomats could continue talks and convince them to disband another alliance, that would be great. Then we could take 3 of the top 10 alliances out and they'd have fewer alliances backing them up.

But then, that's just my war-mongering...

AdminG Beee June 5 2008 2:35 PM EDT


I've just checked and your information is wrong. KoR are only allies with three other groups - and we're one of them.

Again, why the rush to pick on the only alliance that's bigger than us..?

Am I missing the point..?



Allies :
[PFF] Play For Fun
[~Os~] Osiris
[__CB__] Carnage 1

Naps :
[ex Yu] Ex Yu
[OWC] Old West Conquerors
[~=A=~] Akatsuki
[C.B] Crimson Braves

j'bob June 5 2008 2:59 PM EDT

and seeing as how we've got carnageblender pasted all over our WG stuff, i'm sure that even tho they're smart enough to be top in that game, they'll never think to keep an eye on us here (hmmm, if memory serves you don't even have to sign up to browse the wiki and forums?)
good thing they know where we stand. ;p

j'bob June 5 2008 3:00 PM EDT

i'd say bulk up everyone... i smell war on the coming winds...

Phrede June 5 2008 4:33 PM EDT

The outcome of a war would be either:

a: We both weaken ourselves so much as to let the other alliances take over.

b: We win and are so weak that the other alliances take over

c: We lose - if any of the KoR members have played Travian or similar before they know the outcome of Alliance Wars can be at worst unpredictable. Also the co-ordination required for a mass attack is very difficult to get right. All you need is a couple of members to fail to log on at the right time and ...

My suggestion would be to leave it a little while - a few weeks - and see how things stand then.

Why dont we try to attack another alliance first to 'get into practice' :)

I have posted a copy of this in Spydah's Ally forum.

Phrede June 5 2008 4:53 PM EDT

That last sentence was a JK by the way :)

spydah June 5 2008 5:18 PM EDT

"and seeing as how we've got carnageblender pasted all over our WG stuff, i'm sure that even tho they're smart enough to be top in that game, they'll never think to keep an eye on us here (hmmm, if memory serves you don't even have to sign up to browse the wiki and forums?)
good thing they know where we stand. ;p"

which is why other secure forums exist...


AdminG Beee June 5 2008 5:22 PM EDT

You don't need to worry about them seeing it by posting it in the ally forum on spydah.com.
Given that a large part of my motivation for joining WG was to spread the gospel that is CB, I've already invited the half dozen or so that I talk with to start playing Carnage Blender.

They're probably reading this post right now :)

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] June 5 2008 5:23 PM EDT

Yeah, f'real.

Let's work towards destroying Crimson Braves first. I don't want to try to plot out the locations of all the members of all the top clans all at once; I'd rather take it one at a time. Next, we can move on to something else that isn't allied with our allies (maybe another NAP-treaty people). Maybe PFF if KOR has a falling-out with them for some reason or another.

Phrede June 5 2008 5:23 PM EDT

I also think KoR are a really nice bunch of people and we should never attack them - never do you hear - never.

Seriously we should definitely keep these posts off CB and on Spydah - everyone should try and get registered on his forum.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] June 5 2008 5:33 PM EDT

Well, I believe I was informed wrongly. I was told that when there is an NAP in place, allies of the NAP can also not attack. If that's true, then my statement is also true, if not, I was misinformed and I apologize.

Also, just for the record, I have never proposed an attack on KOR ^_^ I have nothing against them at all :)

AdminG Beee June 5 2008 5:34 PM EDT

I'm surprised an Admin hasn't closed this thread down and considered it spam anyway...

Bartman June 5 2008 5:42 PM EDT

LOL, Yeah.... You never know about them admins...:)

Phrede June 5 2008 5:48 PM EDT

CB Admins are real brutes sometimes - unlike the KoR people who are really friendly, especially the really strong ones.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] June 5 2008 5:54 PM EDT

reply 900! no really when is an admin going to close this one?

Phrede June 5 2008 6:00 PM EDT

Maybe now :)

j'bob June 5 2008 6:13 PM EDT

nope... how bout... NOW

{cb1}Linguala June 5 2008 6:22 PM EDT

Hakai, it's not because they have a NAP with them, that we have a NAP with them.
What you said is true for allies of allies, their allies, although not our direct allies, are our allies too.
However, for NAP, every alliance is on themselves. If we attack an alliance who has a NAP standing with our allies, it's free game. Depending on what they want, they can uphold their NAP and leave us doing our thing. And they will most likely stay out of it unless they get attacked first by our enemy, their NAP, in which case the NAP is broken and everybody starts pummeling the enemy.
Anyway, that's how I know NAP's to be.

Phrede June 5 2008 6:26 PM EDT

I think that is correct Ling

AdminG Beee June 5 2008 6:33 PM EDT

NAP and Alliance are two different things.

NAP = Non-Aggression Pact. Think USSR - USA back in the 80's.
It means you agree not to attack each other - it's like a flag of truce and really only means peace until someone blows it...

Alliance = friendly relationship. Think UK - USA.
You stand together and if there's a call to arms you're there for each other. That's the deal we have with KoR.
KoR has a similar deal with two other alliances (I listed them in a post previously) but everyone else is fair game to us.

Can you imagine the UK going to war with the USA if Ronald Reagan had declared war on Russia back in the 80's - of course not.
Can you imagine KoR going to war with the Carnage Blender alliance if we go declare war on Crimson Braves - of course not.

There ya go - simple really.

Bartman June 5 2008 9:11 PM EDT

WOW!!! That WAS easy!

Thanks for clearing that up G! :)

Insane [What A Fee] June 5 2008 10:59 PM EDT

I just finished the tutorial.
Huis' Village (310 / 215)

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] June 6 2008 12:21 AM EDT

I have 11 raiding parties out right now. I think this will give me a greater resource return than I have been getting from splitting them up into 4 groups that all come back less than half full, but it's really tedious picking all these locations to attack. Is the plan to go to war with Crimson Braves official yet, or are we still pondering and debating and thinking about taking out the guy who hit Verifex? Because I need some targets to hit that have a high resource production (and maybe that can kill off some of these excess units I have :P)

Speaking of which, Freed, how has your neighbor been lately? Having many disagreements anymore?

QBOddBird June 6 2008 12:29 AM EDT

Beee - sounds like right now we are USSR and they are USA + UK + Germany + Canada or something (not including the French) because they have allies and we have....?

Wizard'sFirstRule June 6 2008 1:10 AM EDT

Axis and allies. my friend. axis and allies.

(I really have no idea what I am talking about. ...mmmmm.... donut... mmmmm.)

ActionAction June 6 2008 1:36 AM EDT

"Seriously we should definitely keep these posts off CB and on Spydah - everyone should try and get registered on his forum."

I highly agree with the contents of this reply, therefore, I am quoting it.

spydah June 6 2008 9:57 AM EDT

For those of you in AoDs alliance, and possibly himself, if you want to reg on the forums, that is fine, but I need a note from him saying that yes, you are in the alliance.

But do sign on up.


Foxth June 6 2008 10:04 AM EDT

give me a head ups on it lol, I love destruction. Not a fox for nothing i can cook up bit of trouble.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] June 6 2008 3:25 PM EDT

I wonder if this post is the first that will hit 1000 replies :) what is the record anyway?

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] June 6 2008 6:43 PM EDT

i need to say what? if ppl from my alliance want to join your site then i wont stop them
still got plenty of space left

Bartman June 6 2008 7:27 PM EDT

Spydah is going to check with you on all members whose name he doesn't recognize to find out if they are in your alliance. He checks with me regularly so we can moderate who has access to our forum threads.

You probably want to join Spydah's forum so you can stay up to date on all that's going on with our alliance.

winner winner June 7 2008 8:55 AM EDT

how is score calculated?

QBOddBird June 7 2008 9:11 AM EDT

by your buildings. If your building consumes 3 food, you get 3 score.

Don't bother with score.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] June 7 2008 11:23 AM EDT


A few members from Crimson Braves are wanting to go to war with us. I just got a message from their diplomat, who is trying to avoid the conflict. Please go read my post in Spydah's forum for the whole message sent to me.

It is under the Alliance/NAP section in the Crimson Braves thread made by me and it has to do with PainKiller attacking one of their members...

Phrede June 7 2008 11:43 AM EDT

Cant see it in SPydah's forum under that listing :(

QBRanger June 7 2008 11:43 AM EDT

We all really need to use Spydah's forums and keep strategy chat there.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] June 7 2008 11:45 AM EDT

Freed, it's in the "Crimson Braves Request..." thread.

It's under the Alliance - NAP forum section...let me know if you are still unable to see it...

Bartman June 7 2008 11:57 AM EDT

You're right on track Hakai!

We need all alliance members to check the thread and post the requested info.


Phrede June 7 2008 12:01 PM EDT

sorry - found it :) So it looks like war then :(

QBOddBird June 7 2008 12:06 PM EDT


If you are a member of the CB alliance or 2nd alliance in WG, please GO SIGN UP to spydah's WG forums so you can read them.

Any negotiations with other alliances or preparations for wars with other alliances are posted THERE not here so that only we can see them, so you NEED to sign up to be of use in any war effort.

Thanks you very much.
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