Why is AC AC? (in General)


QBPixel Sage August 6 2008 9:31 PM EDT

Just wondering... is there a reason why we call it "Armor Class?" It's not a terribly big deal, but calling it "Armor Class" is less newb friendly than just "Armor." It may make them wonder if there are different classes, or "types" of armor out there.

TheHatchetman August 6 2008 9:36 PM EDT

it's a class of damage reduction... Endurance is another, AMF reduction is another, MgS/EH is another, and Protection was another :P

besides, if it was just armor, the AC would not be king of AC anymore... it would just be the king of A... and I'm not so sure the AC is willing to lose that status ^_^

QBPixel Sage August 6 2008 9:38 PM EDT

But it's not like we call these things Endurance Class, or AMF Class, or Enchantment Class, etc.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] August 6 2008 9:39 PM EDT

if i recall correctly, the original dungeons & dragons was where i first saw it referred to as armor class.

BadFish August 6 2008 9:42 PM EDT

Many things in CB are named after existing RPG-style names: cloak of Istari, Helm of Durin, Noldorin Spellcasters... all refer to older names spawning from the same genre. Armor class has long been the label used by D$D, which is likely why it's used here, too.

Shinjki August 6 2008 9:43 PM EDT

D&D is the first place I ever saw Armor Class as well, so I'm fine with it ^_^ It brings back nostalgic memories for me.

VivaPinata August 6 2008 10:20 PM EDT

Armor Class or Armor Rating works dandily for me :D
Besides, it was probably from Lord of the Rings before it was in D&D.

Turning back to the overseer, the orc worried about the upcoming battle at Helm's Deep, "Look, I only have like a total of 20 Armor Class from this Jaggy Spikey Suit + 3. I'm going to need an upgrade to +15 at least, if I don't want to be another one of those throwaway orc extras in the movies. Forge it for me at 78% sound fair?"

QBRanger August 6 2008 11:08 PM EDT

Dude is right.

In the original paperback D&D set, it was called Armor Class.

I guess Jon is nostalgic.

Cube August 6 2008 11:12 PM EDT

Actually, 'Armor Class' has been done away with on the new character and equip pages, so should the wiki start referring to just Armor too? Personally, I like the word Class there though.

QBPixel Sage August 7 2008 1:43 AM EDT

Ah, I see. Yeah, I noticed that some places it just says "Armor." But on the battle pages, it still says "Armor Class."

QBOddBird August 7 2008 1:46 AM EDT

Argh, now you've gone and made me nostalgic for D&D style games again...

Time to pop open NWN and remake my old monk, Karma Sultra...

AdminNightStrike August 7 2008 10:55 AM EDT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THAC0

Dark Dreky August 7 2008 11:18 AM EDT

OMG THAC0... are you serious?!

/me runs and hides under his 3rd edition D&D books (3rd... not 4th!)

AdminShade August 7 2008 11:27 AM EDT

we should add CB to that topic :p

Brakke Bres [Ow man] August 7 2008 11:57 AM EDT

should we add critical hits to CB?

QBPixel Sage August 7 2008 12:10 PM EDT

I second adding CB to that page =P
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