RE: error code 0xc0000017 (in Off-topic)


robocho23 August 30 2008 1:40 AM EDT

Original post
http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002GT7

T5600/2 gigabytes RAM/X3100 video card/Realtek Sound card(integrated?)
Dell Vostro 1310

I have the same problem. After awhile on/running lots of stuff, my internet dies, CTRL+ALT+DEL pulls up that error, and nothing really works. After checking settings my VM is fine and my memory sticks are fine. Heat may be an issue, but this sometimes occurs during low temps as well. Furthermore, my old laptop ran hotter and didn't have this problem (and with the immense load of multitasking).

Anyone have a potential solution? I am starting to get pretty frustrated,

PearsonTritonRaveshaw August 30 2008 2:12 AM EDT

Virtual memory could be a problem. It should be manually set (never ever let windows manage it...) at two to four times larger than your RAM. So, you should have it from 4-8 gigs (min max respectively).
If you let windows manage it, it will use ALL of the unused space on your hard drive as virtual memory, so it just throws it in any open space which fragments the hard drive and makes it harder to find files, thus slowing down load times and all that crap. If you set it, you keep it nice and tidy in a small little space, which is good.
(If you're still confused, try one of two things: 1) Hit yourself over your head with a hammer because you're a moron, or 2) Think of this analogy: You own a business that stores and ships goods. You have a large warehouse and most of it is reserved for long term storage. You have clients who like to store small packages for short periods of time (a day or two), and you simply put them anywhere you want in the warehouse along with the long term storage. Random places. When your client picks them up, he must wait for you to find it and bring it back, which takes up lots of time. The line backs up with those frequent customers and that really slows things down. That's what happens when you let windows manage it. If you set limits on it yourself, you set aside a corner of the warehouse specifically for those small packages, so you don't have to go looking all over the warehouse for those frequent customers. That saves lots of time.)
Yeah... that's just the virtual memory!
I'd say google the full code (there has to be more than just 0xc0000017.

Obscurans August 30 2008 2:17 AM EDT

One usual way of dealing with it is simply to make a separate partition (drive if you will), and it need not even be formatted.

Under the appropriate options, make the entirety of that partition available for swapping/virtual memory and none of the others.

It's usually fine to have a VM/physical RWM ratio of 2:1. I don't even have any, my 4G works well enough.

Khardin August 30 2008 2:19 AM EDT

I would start by uninstalling directx. There are a couple tools to do this. One I've used before is Directx Eradicator. That was years ago though so possibly this one instead, Directx Happy Uninstall.

I had a problem like this once a long time ago and I know I found the issue but it took a lot of work. Unfortunately I can't remember more than that. If uninstalling directx doesn't work, I would move onto doing a repair installation of your current OS. If that doesn't work, I would do a full installation. It will probably save you time in the end.

Khardin August 30 2008 2:22 AM EDT

Oh, forgot to mention. Uninstall directx completely (reboot if required) and then reinstall directx (reboot again.) before moving on to the next thing.

PearsonTritonRaveshaw August 30 2008 2:50 AM EDT

...Or you could simply run dxdiag (click on start, click run, type in dxdiag, run a test and BAM!) and you won't have to uninstall it...

PearsonTritonRaveshaw August 30 2008 2:53 AM EDT

However, I doubt it would be DX because... well, that's graphics and sound. Usually leaving your computer on for extended periods of time doesn't have much to do with sound unless you're running a game.

Flatcap [East Milwaukee Devival] August 30 2008 2:55 AM EDT

Umm did you write down the module name? When you blue screen it will say something to the effect of error yada yada yada in module something.dll/exe It will help you find out what program is causing the error or what piece of hardware

Khardin August 30 2008 4:29 AM EDT

True, but I'm sure Direct is used in lots of apps besides games.. main reason I suggest uninstalling is I've had issues with directx causing similar problems while dxdiag thought everything was a-ok. Mainly on a computer that saw multiple releases of directx and the update protocols must have been a little flawed.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] August 30 2008 6:14 AM EDT

Yup I solved this problem,

see also: http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002J3M

Fresh XP install, replaced the ALL of the RAM memory and I opened up the TCP/IP half open connections.

This worked for me anyway.

robocho23 August 30 2008 12:57 PM EDT

Let me clarify. I do not get a BSOD. Rather, it is just a dialog box that pops up saying "This application failed to initialize." and that error code. I already tinkered with my VM settings, had it windows managed, managed it myself (put it to 4 GB), error's regardless. Also, if i already had task manager open, when my internet dropped and this occured, my performance tab showed over 50% free in all memory types.

Pizzaman - how do I go about uping the amount of TCP/IP like you did? I'd like to leave a reinstall as a last resort.

I am fairly certain my RAM is fine. I just got this laptop over the summer, and pulled my old RAM from my old laptop. That laptop had no problems whatsoever.

robocho23 August 30 2008 1:04 PM EDT

also, this excerpt from the old thread may be a potential cause (Khardin, it is your post!);
"my guess then would be that your soundcard is one of those dummy cards (obvious from the minimal components and IC chips on the board) and the drivers do most of the work. when they get swapped to the paging file the card doesn't work correctly and the program errors. there's probably some way to flag the drivers so they don't go to the paging file or maybe turning executive paging off would work. "

When my comp does start to strain, if I have music playing, it starts to slowww down. Like.. the sound driver seems to struggle and can't play the music properly. Usually that is an indicator that I will be dropping internet and will need to restart. Could it be something naturally defective with the soundcard? FYI, it is a Realtek Audio Controller, AC86

Brakke Bres [Ow man] August 30 2008 1:20 PM EDT

Before you do, check the system log and check for the following error message: EventId 4226

If you do read the following article to do so: http://www.technovice.net/archives/12-Increase-Your-Half-Open-Connection-For-Better-Download-Speed.html

Please note that I don't take any responsibility if you screw up your pc so make sure that you read the whole article!

robocho23 September 2 2008 5:08 AM EDT

I increased my TCP/IP connection and under dxdiag, i turned off hardware sound acceleration. So far, my system is more stable, but I have had one incident of the problem still. So the problem is still not fully solved.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 2 2008 5:43 AM EDT

then reinstall winxp and buy new ram, that is what worked for me combined with opening up the half open connections.
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