AoF for me? (in General)

Rawr November 18 2008 10:42 PM EST

I know I'll be getting AoF's for my 3 enchanters for the big AS bonuses xD


Should I put one on my mage?
He already has natural HP trained and NSC's, but with AoF I'm afraid the enemy AMF concentration will override the important of GA/AS boost on him.

--- Will the HP bonus from AoF outweigh the enemy AMF concentration on my mage? ---


AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 18 2008 10:56 PM EST

Q: AoF for me?

A: No


The AMF backlash is being given a bonus every round you cast. Your spells only get the bonus once. It's unlikely a measly 30% bonus to AS will compensate for taking all that extra backlash.

I suppose if you were specifically targeting DM teams you could pull it off.

DoS November 18 2008 10:58 PM EST

What would be the point in putting it on your mage? He doesn't have an ED or EO trained and if you did train something on him you would have to increase its level which would decrease specialization <---(couldn't think of the word).

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 18 2008 11:08 PM EST

The AoF increases all spells cast ON the minion wearing it, not by the minion wearing it (although spells cast by the minion on the minion itself would also have the bonus)

Rawr November 18 2008 11:13 PM EST

Currently 30% of AS bonus is roughly 160,000 more HP. I guess that wouldn't really outweight 30% more AMF reducing damage dealt and increasing damage taken :(.

Thanks novice!

DoS November 18 2008 11:15 PM EST

Oh, right.

Rawr November 23 2008 1:53 PM EST

I see many junctioned familiars with AoF though :(

Sickone November 23 2008 1:58 PM EST

That's because familiars also get a bonus to their magic level from the AoF, so AMF effect (in percents) stays the same.

Phaete November 23 2008 2:11 PM EST

That "also" from the post above is an "instead" i believe.

From the help:

# When junctioned, AoF boosts familiar DD level as opposed to skill.

or is the help wrong here?

Sickone November 23 2008 4:22 PM EST

Familiars either have a skill or they have a DD, not both :)
So both "also" and "instead" are pretty much interchangeable in this particular situation.

three4thsforsaken November 23 2008 4:28 PM EST

well, also note that the AMF effect doesn't really stay the same if there is a large difference between the size of the AMF and the size of the DD.

But none the less, the backlash damage is definitely increased no matter what, and that's what one has to be cautious of. If you think you have enough HP on the familiar go for it, though it is unlikely early game.

Sickone November 23 2008 4:56 PM EST

"well, also note that the AMF effect doesn't really stay the same if there is a large difference between the size of the AMF and the size of the DD."

Yes it does... AMF percentage is calculated based on AMF/DD level, and both are boosted by the same percentage with an AoF on a familiar, so the ratio stays the same... and hence the AMF cast percentage too.

But yeah, the amount of the backlash is larger - yet you also deal more damage to the enemies.
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