JOIN THE FIGHT! (in General)

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 6:42 PM EST

WEll, what most of you have failed to realize is that a few people got together and decided to take down DAS. Mainly three people, novice, mikel, and a couple others...not too hard to figure out, you can check the clan leaderboard or the contest thread...
You are all playing right into their hands. They are showing control over each and everyone of you who are participating in their little "contest"

Yes, mischievious they are, but stupid they are not, and they know what they are doing very well. They are using their money, to use you all, to kill DAS, because they are scared and/or jealous. They have already posted lies and turned my words around to say what they wanted to you think.

Many of you will fail to win any money, others will win 'some' money (what, 100K up to tenth?), and only ONE OF YOU will win the big prize at the end...yet they show just how much they control each and everyone of you, just by speaking a few words. 100k? You will have lost so much more than this by the time you get done farming for neg bonuses.

Novice skipped any talks of peace, and pulled the trigger right off the bat...No, this wasn't just to kill one member like the post was for Steve G, no this was for all of DAS, and to absolutely kill us so we will this case, DAS stands for all that it means to be free in this CB. DAS stands for all the new players, and all the old players, who realize just how much the top players think they are better than us, just because they have played longer.

Do not let this oppression live on. Stand up and fight against the tyranny.

DAS is now open to alliances and the expansion of the ALL-STAR FAMILY.

Do not let them buy you.
Do not let them mislead you.
Do not let them control you.
You are not a tool.
You are a human being!
Stand up for what is right. Stand up for the truth!


AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] December 6 2008 6:44 PM EST


Talk about propaganda.

Someone put a bounty on a clan member of mine... and I responded...
...and now I'm Hitler?


Fatil1ty December 6 2008 6:45 PM EST

Hey Dinh,

Pretty heavy for a lil clan war....however I am in agreement. The members funding the comp gain HUGE by getting others to fight down top clans for them.... and the people actually gaining the money lose due to big challenge bonus losses

Mikel December 6 2008 6:45 PM EST

Nice propaganda!! :)

You should write speeches for political leaders :)

Fatil1ty December 6 2008 6:46 PM EST

yup you should take a career in marketing or advertising with a heavy government focus

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 6:48 PM EST

Hence the fact that both you - Mikel and novice, like it so two do resemble politicians very much...

Steve G December 6 2008 6:48 PM EST

i love coming back to check in to find im apparently involved in several bounty schemes, a 100+ post thread, and more or less thrust into the position unwillingly.

but now you guys turn to propaganda? lol

just to make it clear DAS's intent from the start was an complete takeover of the clan rankings and to throw CB into clan disarray. this thread mentions its not worth making less money to fight them, yet the posts creator will go as far as to attack (1) score people

(just playing along with clan wars, no disrespect to any DAS, as most would admit this)

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 6:49 PM EST

Anyone of you who read this feel free to look up definitions for 'tyranny' and 'oppression'...

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] December 6 2008 6:50 PM EST

I'm playing CB Dinh, you're the one standing up for "truth"...

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 6:52 PM EST

Yes, always listen to steve G when he talks about stuff...this coming from the guy who just left DAS recently. DAS was made for more than just one was a gather of like minded people, to help prove a point in this game. The point yet was not known, but look now...look at the money being thrown around just to destroy DAS. These people throwing the money around is what DAS was meant to throw into disarray, not clans. Althogh steve had it close, it was meant to "change" the aspects of how Clans work in this game.

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 6:55 PM EST

It's too bad that lots of money usually win out in these situations novice...that's all it seems you have. Know that we will not give into your pressure so easily. You may control everyone else in this game because of your "stature" but what it really comes down to is all you are is another player with lots of money, willing to throw it around to get what he wants. In a sense you are a tricker, a fake, a phony. Hopefully people will wake up to this.

DoS December 6 2008 6:56 PM EST

And this all could simply be fixed with an addition of a cap on the amount of people allowed in a clan. But disregard me, I'm an ex DAS member.

Ancient Anubis December 6 2008 7:00 PM EST

This is Funny :) I feel the carnage and death flow through me fight my little minions fight and watch as i grow in strength until none can escape the inevitable eventuality of their cataclysmic and oppressing doom.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] December 6 2008 7:01 PM EST

"and to absolutely kill us so we will disband"

didn't one your members offer the best reward out there for disbanding?

Cube December 6 2008 7:07 PM EST

I love the drama, the rivalry. Clans have needed this for ages.

Congratulations to DAS on that. As well as all those NUB recruits.

Rawr December 6 2008 7:13 PM EST

"skipped any talks of peace"

the game name hardly suggests anything about peace, thus I don't see any reason for it.

It is NOW that I see the true carnage blending. So exciting! :)

AdminTal Destra [C and S Forgery Lmtd.] December 6 2008 7:18 PM EST

AG_Titan put a bet up Dudemus. He said if we(LIDAS) get disbanded because of this ill put up 20m. Its not going to happen but I will put it up no less. Have Fun.

Hehe and I'm with him every step of the way.

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 7:25 PM EST

The matter of the peace talk is to show you what could have been done to prevent this. One simple statement. In truth it is not what he wanted, and so you see what has happened. This was all used as an excuse, to get all of you to try and kill us, while they (Knighthood and BR) reap all the benefits and hold on to their "glory." Tell me Novice, Mikel, What is glory really when you have to buy it and not earn it?

BootyGod December 6 2008 7:30 PM EST

My respect for Dinh just dropped a notch. Hitler.... Disgusting... What kind of reference is that?

More importantly, is that acceptable in CB now? Or are the admins sleeping?

kevlar December 6 2008 7:32 PM EST

Someone put a bounty on a clan member of mine... and I responded...
lol.. um that should read, "someone put a bounty on a clan mamber of mine, who USED TO BE IN DAS, and I responded..." :)

Since when do you fight other people's battles Novice, to that degree? I'm with the conculsion that there is more to this whole thing and you guys laughing at posts, starting new ones to avoid good points brought up in old ones, isn't going to change things ;)

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] December 6 2008 7:33 PM EST

What did you do to prevent your member from putting an open bounty on one of our members?

I'm not doing this for "glory", this is simple clan warfare...

You'll find that CB tends to react strongly to attempts to band together to break a system. This is merely the clan system responding to your alliance.

kevlar December 6 2008 7:39 PM EST

lol I see through you

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 7:40 PM EST

Like I said, this is you merely using everyone to get what you want. Pulling the wool over the eyes...Making everyone kill their challenge bonus rewards, so that you can remain number one...throwing out money to achieve what you need to achieve. And WolfEyes, You were my mentor and clanmate almost a year ago, and you are even feeding this machine to help bring us down, so don't try to talk about respect to me or anyone else.

BootyGod December 6 2008 7:40 PM EST

Losing weight then, novice!?

Congrats! =D

winner winner December 6 2008 7:40 PM EST

Just wondering, what would you do if someone put a bounty one of your clan members?

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 7:43 PM EST

You are hurting everyone's characters AND gaining from it yourselves, just to feel better about yourself in this game. In my book that is reaching down to pretty low levels there. Of course you will tell youself something so that you dont feel so bad...Much the way you turn other words around to make them say what you want, you do the same to yourself in your own mind. They will eventually see thru you...kevlar already has, it is just a matter of time...


{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 7:45 PM EST

SK, this is what i would do if someone put a bounty on DAS...


Oh wait, someone already thought it up..

kevlar December 6 2008 7:48 PM EST

Ok first off, it was as simple as that just someone putting a bounty on my clan, I would have rally my CLAN, not the COMMUNITY to fight back.

So do you know the full story with what is going on, SK?

Novice asked Steve G to leave DAS and join his clan because he knew him previously. Sniped.

So DAS got upset and wanted to retaliate. So this should be between DAS and Knights right? No. Just because they posted their DAS contest publically, Novice saw it as a brill. way to address something that was ignited almost a week ago when they took the #1 spot in the clan rankings...and maintained it!

So say what you will, but Novice is more cowardly for posting a community request to kill an entire clan rather than DAS was for putting a DAS contest bounty out on a single player.


fatty the loner December 6 2008 7:51 PM EST

More cow bell....The musical ins. of death

three4thsforsaken December 6 2008 7:51 PM EST

Depicting them as evil people feels a bit...much.

It's not even an oppression, people are farming you not because Novice says so, but rather you've gave them good reason for them to dislike you.

I, for example, don't mind that you guys are helping each other but am annoyed by the few displays of arrogance in the forums and in chat. Those actions have set you aside from the general CB community, and that's a double edged sword. Yeah, the second you put a bounty of one or two of people, bounties are fair game.

Be strong, and have some fun! Instead of complaining and calling people Hitler, why don't you organize and try to fix it. Seems to me you're just taunting the CB community. (20 million? D:)

kevlar December 6 2008 7:53 PM EST

"why don't you organize and try to fix it."

that goes both ways man...

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 7:53 PM EST

ALMOST hit it on the head their kevlar...just one thing, DAS DID NOT GET upset when STeve left DAS and went to knighthood, altho novice did ask him for weeks before hand to come over...Steve was just complaining no one made him boss not three days before he novice caught him in a vulnerable position and convinced him to come biggy..

This is not what ignited this at all, it's just that a very NEW player posted something because Steve G was attacking him, and STeve G was much bigger than him..

three4thsforsaken December 6 2008 7:54 PM EST

it's fair game now

note the use of the word "game"

and when I say fix it, I mean burn more BA, change your DAS lineup to cut loses etc...

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 7:55 PM EST

20 million CB dollars is from AG Titan, to show that we arent going to be pushed around and give in just because Novice is against us...

winner winner December 6 2008 7:55 PM EST

So basically you put a bounty on someone just because they left your clan and joined another clan? Or is there some other reason I'm not aware of?

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 7:57 PM EST

SK, please read again...i just explained that him leaving the clan had nothing to do with this War, or the bounty that was put on was because baha bros was getting farmed, and he wanted someone to farm him back, because STeve G was so much bigger than him...Baha posted a bounty, that was it, not because he left...

three4thsforsaken December 6 2008 8:00 PM EST

I really don't care why you put a bounty on him, but since you did, it's fair game to put a bounty on you guys.

Why? Cause it's a game and it's fun. Chances are you guys aren't going to lose anything but a few clan bonus percentages.

Besides, the nature of the bounty was for everyone to gang up on a person to stop him from farming. I don't see how this is much different of ethical.

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 8:05 PM EST

And i never said it was fact, I welcome it...This is proving one of the points that DAS is in existance, to show what the big dogs will do to get their way. Throw out money to anyone and everyone (really isnt that much money that he is offering, but its doing the job) while they reap the benefits...or is it just a coincidence that BR and Knighthood are now in the first and two spot respectively. Open your eyes MissingNo. If the innocent threatens at all seriously to take over, you will be in this position.

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 8:05 PM EST

big dogs will do anything to get their way ***

three4thsforsaken December 6 2008 8:09 PM EST

benefits? What benefits?

Attacking you guys would be a huge hindrance to my growth, for most people's growth in fact. The difference between top spot and 2nd to top spot is less than 0.5% bonus. It's nothing!

The reason they want to attack you has nothing to do with benefits.

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 8:11 PM EST

The benefits? The benefits are the fact that they arent sitting on top of the clan leader board. All the while they shell out money to people (accept you, you realized it isnt worth it) to kill us...

{cb2}Dinh December 6 2008 8:12 PM EST

that they are* sorry beer and typos ;)

three4thsforsaken December 6 2008 8:16 PM EST

I don't think they set up the competition to get top spot. I think they got very annoyed by the arrogance on the boards, and they probably got annoyed by the bounty that was set up.

Mikel December 6 2008 8:39 PM EST

Lol is it coincidence? Did you know that for this last week and a half, one of my best CP earners was busy moving into his new home and getting setup? Btw, he's back now and you see how much his CP's help.

Our newest Clan member's job is to grow first and worry about CP's later. We'll put with the setbacks in CP for now, and reap the rewards later once he's stronger and harder to farm, thats how we treat all of our new NCB/NUBs that start from scratch that join our clan.

Aside from all of that, your clan started up with the bounties so others responded. Actions have consequences. Apparently you weren't prepared for the consequences.

BR has had bounties out on us before, and we just took it in stride and put our noses to the grindstone, after a while, interest goes away.

Instead of eating a little humble pie and keeping it internally, your own clan leader is offering 20 mil to the top CP stealer that forces his own clan to disband, and that's called arrogance.

No matter who you are, arrogance fires people up and most of the time backfires.

Kliktu December 6 2008 9:02 PM EST

Its a pretty fantastic side-effect though, isn't it?
I don't really want to get into the arguing, and morality of this clan war; all I want to do is enjoy the carnage and the challenge presented to my clan-family! Anyway I'm not that good at arguing with people, because I'm always afraid I'll put my foot in my mouth, lol.

Kliktu December 6 2008 9:05 PM EST

My reply was to missingno, lol. I also don't argue because I post too slow ^.-

iBananco [Blue Army] December 6 2008 10:31 PM EST

Let me get this straight. You guys put out a bounty. You guys are now awesome. They put out a bounty. Your clan leader proceeds to put out an even bigger bounty. On yourselves. They are now rich, fat-cat, Communist, mass-murdering, Nazi, fascist dictators. In addition, you claim that they're "trying to keep the little folks down" because they had the amazing audacity to do what nobody has done before because the mere thought of doing so is grounds for eternal damnation--put out a bounty. Did I miss something?

Colonel Custard December 6 2008 10:42 PM EST

You make many faulty assumptions and even more poorly-thought-out statements. All I've lost so far is the lower people on my fight list. I shall prevail.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] December 6 2008 11:40 PM EST

Competition is all fine and dandy, there is no reason to equate what Novice, or anyone, is doing to Hitler, or any similar reference. It is inappropriate and if it happens again there will be fines.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] December 7 2008 12:31 AM EST

Let them eat cake Slayer. /me seriously hopes this brings Jbob into the thread.

Ancient Anubis December 7 2008 12:47 AM EST

I thought the aim of all games is to reach the number 1 spot so this supposed point u were trying to point out dinh with das that top players will do all they can to stay on top is obvious and already well known. I think people are starting to lose the plot in their subsequent answers to this posting.

Josh [Cult of the Valaraukar] December 8 2008 7:22 PM EST

So basically, our only option is to be a tool for one side or the other. That's what you just laid out in this thread.

Logic, please.

Here's logic. Anyone who is taking the hit on your clan, is doing it freely, anyone who is joining/fighting in your clan is doing it freely, and anyone not involved at all is doing it freely.

I doubt there is one person farming your clan not enjoying. Heck, every time you make a post I enjoy fighting your clan-mates even more. My point is, if everyone is enjoying farming you they're not being controlled, they're enjoying the aspects of the game. In this situation that aspect is farming your clan, making you upset, watching you e-rage and make a fool of yourself, and then enjoying it. The cash incentive is just a bonus.

Guardian December 9 2008 5:23 AM EST

""DAS stands for all that it means to be free in this CB. DAS stands for all the new players, and all the old players, who realize just how much the top players think they are better than us, just because they have played longer.""

I begun to play last month after 2 years away. there was no blender, or knighthood or royal helping me to be in game. no, the das family teache me everything and help me in strategy and good deals for gear and weapons.

the old granpas only want to stand in top, why new people who work hard cant be top?? just coz u huge???

no way man, it was good if every clan that is not in this fight look at this. This is not about DAS.. this is for FREEDOM of all clans who dreams to be the one someday.

Ariac December 9 2008 5:25 AM EST

Really? Nobody helped you? Are you sure you didn't just play for 5 minutes and didn't get all the information you would ever need? This place is amazing and I'll be damned if I'll let you sit there and insult some of the best people you'll ever meet.

Guardian December 9 2008 5:29 AM EST

the huge difference is:

DAS clans makes people stay in game and get fun

old granpas helps destroy it and get absolut power for them only.

thats a shame that even qb blenders are on it.

Phrede December 9 2008 6:20 AM EST

These wars are great - its sooooo much fun to see some honest animosity back in the game - it was getting a little boring.

I cant spend the time needed to go back through all the posts - but i guess I am one of the Grandads that have been mentioned - its an honour.

I may even be tempted to go back to spending money here :)

three4thsforsaken December 9 2008 6:40 AM EST

Why do you always forget that it is your own DAS ally who is paying them to kill you?

20 million bounty on the entire Long Beach Clan is the biggest bounty in the history of CB.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] December 9 2008 6:48 AM EST

Andy went nuts on sunday, kevlar went to shinobi, varcas is with me, and mask is threatening to quit altogether. Yeah I'd say DAS keeps them playing. Bloody mondays.

Marlfox [Cult of the Valaraukar] December 9 2008 7:22 AM EST

Welcome back, Freed!

QBOddBird December 9 2008 9:53 AM EST

If if makes Freed come back, I say let the clan wars go on indefinitely ;)

QBsutekh137 December 9 2008 10:01 AM EST

Mmmmm, Absolut. Which flavor? I think I prefer straight.

Rawr December 9 2008 10:04 AM EST

Knight, everything you say seem to be degrading and false.

Rawr December 9 2008 10:07 AM EST

Its YOUR clan that started the hits, its YOUR clan continuing to bother people about how YOU'RE being "oppressed" by some clans even though its YOUR clan that wanted to "take over CB". GET THE FACTS.

QBOddBird December 9 2008 10:09 AM EST

"thats a shame that even qb blenders are on it."

Btw, is this directed at me? I'll absolutely request to have my QB removed if I'm marring the title by farming your clan to earn a bounty.

I'm certainly not going to change how I play just because of a title. I'd rather give it up.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] December 9 2008 10:20 AM EST

being recognized in a fighting game, unless i am mistaken, might just entail occasional fighting. ; )

Guardian December 9 2008 12:07 PM EST

No way Rawr!

our clan try to compete with huge clans. The huge guys have so much money they can buy all ba they want . they are so good we need 10 to compete with them. so do not talk things that do not make sense.

What guys trying to do is aniquilate any clan who tries to opposite em.

Steve G December 9 2008 12:11 PM EST

knightwarrior you seem to miss the main point entirely, this is something your clan started with a bounty on my head, someone who was formerly in their clan, and left for my own reasons (not the ones that have been spewed here on the forums by DAS), and then when we retaliate (as anyone in this situation should) you guys cry foul. perhaps this should have been thought of prior to the bounty, and prior to your attempt to rally the troops in your favour, which only put them more against you (by your/you i mean DAS)

*disclaimer* this was never my intent, i still have nothing but respect for the core DAS crew....the noobs on the other hand, well, no sympathy =)

Lady Die December 9 2008 12:20 PM EST

As sick as I am of hearing the boasting and animosity. I will say that OB, with that title, you should fight as it is that very reason that you earned the title.

lostling December 9 2008 12:22 PM EST

3 clans v 1 clan is there much to say? i dont know... both sides should be ashamed of themselves =.=

for the record... i think BOTH of you are stupid... just 1 slightly less so(yes its you novice... stupid all the same)

Guardian December 9 2008 12:24 PM EST

i am sorry mister steve, i only know this recent history between DAS and the top clans. Dunno and do not want know ya problems with em.

But i wanna thank you guys i never got so many free exp in my life allways when i log i have it
Experience: 36,857

is not it cool?
get bigger by doing nothing!

please warriors kill me more ! kill me 3000 times day if u can kill me 6000 times a day i like it ! th more u hit me the more exp i get and grow for free great deal!

lostling December 9 2008 12:32 PM EST

i would like everyone to attack me please :)

{cb2}Dinh December 9 2008 12:36 PM EST

KW, drop it..its over...To set the record straight for everyone, DAS has no problem with Steve for leaving...Steve is not directly related to the Game vs. CB war...A very new player didnt realize that people get farmed by people much bigger than themselves, and thought this was unfair, and made a stupid post placing a bounty on Steves head. Instead of talking to that very new player, it turned in to this...

{cb2}Dinh December 9 2008 12:37 PM EST

Game vs. DAS war ** correction

Steve G December 9 2008 12:37 PM EST

thank you dinh, as i said i have nothing against the DAS, im just rather interested in this "Clan War" because its finally something different and new and gets the blood pumping =)

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] December 9 2008 12:52 PM EST

DAS bro aka baha bro1
A member of Carnage Blender since May 15, 2007.
I know we've got a lot of vets around... but a year and half here doesn't exactly make you very new.

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] December 9 2008 12:53 PM EST

20 million bounty on the entire Long Beach Clan is the biggest bounty in the history of CB.


Admindudemus [jabberwocky] December 9 2008 12:56 PM EST

"The huge guys have so much money they can buy all ba they want ."

just fyi, ba is limited for all characters and the purchasable daily amount actually goes down as grow and with each new ba regen bracket you reach.

it is for this reason that many feel the n*b clans have an advantage over time, they get more members plus more ba, some even free and if they can stay together until the upper ranks, they will have more members than most other clans could hope to get due to the pr limits.

Rawr December 9 2008 8:09 PM EST

"No way Rawr! "

No way? Yes way, that is what happened. There is no reason for me to lie about this. I'm not engaged in either side of the 'war'. It is fact.

winner winner December 9 2008 8:13 PM EST

Long Beach Das just might get disbanded if this continues until saturday at 6.

three4thsforsaken December 9 2008 8:15 PM EST

most aren't burning half their BA.

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] December 9 2008 8:16 PM EST

I dont know about that Sk long beach was at about 5k yesterday.

winner winner December 9 2008 8:17 PM EST

If Sage leaves then they're probably going to get disbanded and AG has to pay up 20m. :)

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] December 9 2008 8:18 PM EST

Long island has to be disbanded to get the 20 million. Not long beach.

Rawr December 9 2008 8:18 PM EST

Casper is correct

The Old Gods December 9 2008 8:31 PM EST

This is sum pretty serious stuff, im glad im not in DAS anymore Cosa Nostra's got ripped to shred's. : P

Soul Eater December 9 2008 9:06 PM EST

We won't get disbanded. I save my ba just to help my clan by getting back our lost cp's.

DoS December 9 2008 9:16 PM EST

Saving your BA helps how?

Soul Eater December 9 2008 9:24 PM EST

Also wow.... While I was at work I was attacked 515 times.

Soul Eater December 9 2008 10:17 PM EST

It helps because I can use it all at once when there are the money and exp bonuses lol.

QBOddBird December 9 2008 10:19 PM EST

Before you do that, you should calculate out how much EXP/$$$/CPs you are losing by doing so.

Soul Eater December 9 2008 10:24 PM EST

Plus because I work I don't have much time to play CB which I would like to play more. But by the time I get home I usually have the free 216 BA to cash in on. Which helps me get back said CP's.

QBOddBird December 9 2008 10:33 PM EST

Ah, okay. If you're missing out on the refreshable BA anyway, then I guess I see where you are coming from. :)

Lord Bob December 9 2008 10:36 PM EST

I just don't get all this DUB All-Stars nonsense. What does DUB stand for anyway?

three4thsforsaken December 9 2008 10:39 PM EST

opposite of Subtitles

8DEOTWP December 9 2008 11:40 PM EST


QBBast [Hidden Agenda] December 9 2008 11:54 PM EST

That wouldn't be BUS?

Lord Bob December 9 2008 11:55 PM EST

I was hoping for a more serious response.

Cube December 9 2008 11:55 PM EST

Lord Bob December 9 2008 11:58 PM EST

Eh, as I'm not a Reggae fan, I would have never known...

Lord Bob December 9 2008 11:59 PM EST

Oh yeah, thanks to G4Cube for actually answering the bloody question.

QBOddBird December 10 2008 12:00 AM EST

This explains so much!

Cube December 10 2008 12:00 AM EST

I didn't know either, but google did.

Soul Eater December 10 2008 12:29 AM EST

LoL I didn't even know what it meant either, Until now. Anyways it kinda sucks being in the dub all stars atm because we are getting heavily farmed.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] December 10 2008 12:32 AM EST

Yes.... another 100+ replies thread about us. Go DAS!!!!!

FailBoat[SG] [Forever Alone] December 10 2008 4:37 AM EST

*Eats Casper's soul*

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] December 10 2008 4:48 AM EST

Ugh here we go again
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