# SG and negative AC (in General)

## Underage Drinking[Battle Royale]December 7 2008 10:13 PM EST

my question is that if a minion wearing an HoC and no gear granting AC, with -5 AC would that reduce the SG you take by 5%? would it work both ways?

## Admindudemus[jabberwocky]December 7 2008 10:52 PM EST

i think the negative five is treated as zero ac by the system.

## three4thsforsakenDecember 7 2008 11:01 PM EST

don't do it. It'll create a fatal error in the matrix.

## Colonel CustardDecember 7 2008 11:10 PM EST

It's a predictable system anomaly, though. This will be the sixth time Zion is destroyed.

## QBsutekh137December 7 2008 11:12 PM EST

Which will lead you, inexorably, to me.

## AdminJonathanDecember 8 2008 12:14 AM EST

> i think the negative five is treated as zero ac by the system.

right.

## AdminTitanDecember 8 2008 12:22 AM EST

Holy Crap. Da Jon has returned all of CB is saved.

## GoodfishDecember 8 2008 12:34 AM EST

"Your Bus Factor has increased by 1."

## CubeDecember 8 2008 1:09 AM EST

What about say, Cesti[5] together with Helm of Clearsight[-5]?

Am I right in thinking that'd be +0%?

## DoS[Demon Forging]December 8 2008 1:11 AM EST

I would think so, because your AC would still be 0, so anything like -5 to 0 is still 0.

## Usul[CHOAM]December 9 2008 4:18 AM EST

Just a guess, but I think the system will just add up all base AC first, if it's negative, then it's treated as 0. Anything else goes into the SG damage formula.

## Brakke Bres[Ow man]December 9 2008 4:21 AM EST

What about magical AC? -5 AC would give you more magical damage? Or is that also treated like 0?

## Xiaz on HiatusDecember 9 2008 4:25 AM EST

How is it possible to get negative 'magical' AC? Either way, it's treated as zero. Same as how negative stats are taken as zero.

## Usul[CHOAM]December 9 2008 4:40 AM EST

It says "1% extra damage for each point of base AC on the opponent."