In the no good deed goes unpunished category (in Off-topic)

Over 1 year ago, a player in CB was having money problem. He was selling items.

So I thought I would be nice and offered to lend this player money. 250 bucks to be exact.

He repeatedly stated he would repay it but every time I asked what is going on, I got one excuse or another.

And instead of him contacting me to let me know the status of the "repayment", I have to constantly CM him and bug him about it.

I was told this and that and the other excuse.

I will not call this person out as I am the fool for believing him in that I would get repayed.

Yes, I stated that my money could wait until he got his stuff together, but it is well over 1 year now.

I was stupid and did not get any promissory note. I did get collateral in CB but eventually just sent it back believing he would pay me back.

So this is just a rant, a vent so to say.

Morale: Do not be stupid like me and lend money to friends.

One of the worst stories I have ever heard.

I feel so bad for you Ranger.

At least I can afford to take the loss if it never gets repaid.

However, I do feel so stupid for believing in my fellow man.

And I did offer to take CB items in trade to eliminate the debt, to which I never got a reply.

Please don't lose faith in friendship just because of one thing, even though it's a pretty large thing.

Just think of other friendship thingies that have been good! I hate to see people losing faith in their friends and people in general because of some friend showing up to be an idiot in the end.

this for mentioned person still active?

Yes, still very active.

And while I feel bad for his financial situation, my generosity was for a short term loan. That was understood when I gave the money.

Now I get a song and dance about how this and that is bad in his life etc..

I am not a bank and not a charity. But I am a fool it seems.

Well, I learned the same hard way you shouldn't be actively trying to help by loaning money to good RL friends either, and if it can be avoided, even to members of the family.

Now, no offense Ranger... but loaning money to some person you only know over the internet... that's a whole different level of naive.

When you say: ''250 bucks to be exact''
are you talking about US dollar?

I got a similar story on my side... I bought a 1500$ car to my brother and we had the deal in which he was suppose to pay me back in a year..well forget it, i dont even got half of it after a year hahaha
He's lucky to be my brother :)
But the day i'll need that money will not be a good day for both of us..
Loaning money to friend or to a familly member is usually a bad idea...

another bad story: years ago, i was away for long and ask my mom to deposit my Gouvernement check of more than a thousand in her account...guess what.. 2 years later i had to tell her i'd bring her to a court of justice and she finally give it back ! no interest obviously...and no good realtionship with her for a little while..

but hey Ranger, you know what they say: give and you'll received 100x more ! you proove to be a generous fellow, and i am sure you loan him this 250$ for a good reason at the beginning. I hope you get your money back but most of all i hope you'll keep your friend cause loaning 250$ mean that somewhere in time the both of you must have been really good buddy.

Let's smile at what life is throwing at us and enjoy everything while we still can !

ok sorry for my bad written english...
lalalala love is in the air lalalalalala love is in the air lalalala

First of all. This loan was to me. Second. If you want to show what was said. You at one point and I really wish chat-mails in game were kept for longer than they were. I told you what my situation was with wife just up and leaving and having 2 daughters to take care of and you specifically said don't worry about the debt. As in don't worry it's ok. That's when you sent the items back. Nowhere did you state. don't worry about it now but very soon pay it back. you stated it like you were ok with me not paying back for a long time. I have since moved 2 times, was almost homeless and made just over 10k total last year while supporting 2 children. You just sent the chat-mail about paying you back with in game items yesterday. I got on for about 10 minutes yesterday before going to work. Then get on this morning to come to this. If I was a terrible person I would just say oh well to you and the comments on this thread deserve a person to not be paid back.. way to bring a very personal thing into the open. I knew you turned into a mean person lately with your condescending comments, but to go this far is just vile. I hope you honestly choke on teh money when you get it. I will be sending you 125 dollars this thursday and next thursday and since you made it so public I will post transactions in this post.

I would state the name if I were you, I know I had no problem stating names when I was out $90 for an ELS over on CB1...oh, what was that guys name... He even went so far as "check is in the mail, it must have gotten lost..." Sorry for the loss, and even more for the disenchantment -- it sucks when people let you down.

Again,

I am not a charity. And there is no reason to be nasty to me as I did what I thought at the time was a favor.

Asking for MY money to be repaid is such a bad thing?

Should I wait another year?

I am the one who should be boiling over in anger, yet you seem to be.

Very ironic.

And, it was never my intention to state who this person was.

I just wanted to rant a little and the forums here gave me a nice forum to do it.

I never said you didn't have the right to be upset, but it's funny when you say your story everyone automatically thinks it's just a story I made up to not repay and that I'm trying to get away from not paying a debt, and that it couldn't possibly be the truth that I got hit with a very bad year. Like I said to you, repay a debt or make sure my daughters have electricity and a place to live and food on the table .. hmm which to pick. Again, we can get personal and I can post pictures of w-2's for the year, bills I had to pay to keep my children warm and fed and such and try to show me where the extra is. If you are wondering about internet. It is paid for by Cylo. If it was up to me. I wouldn't have it because I can't afford it. So to the people that just assume that because it's been a long time and I must be making up stories to not pay back. Sometimes it's better to know the whole story than just one persons side of it before commenting. Or you can just keep thinking I'm a useless person that took 250$ dollars from someone without the intention of paying it back.. woohoo. I made off with a fortune on that scam.

Drag him out to the back of a bar and beat the snot out of him. =P

You know how the community here feels about you Sox.

This is an obviously unfortunate situation. Ranger
feels cheated, and you're just trying to deal with life.

Charity, that word is so loaded...

I don't believe in charity between friends, a gift is
the only way I deal in money in those circumstances.

It would great if somehow this didn't end with more disagreement between folks here.

This might sound strange, but I'm just typing this to cheer up the conversation.

Ranger, you bought me the AoF, when it was a supportership item back in the day. That was a very generous thing to do and I still am thankful for that. It's the only item I was ever given in CB. A good deed also goes a long way :)

Sox,

I had no intention to bring you into the conversation.

This was to be a rant and only that.

However now that you entered it, I have yet to see anything other then excuses.

I even gave you an option to give me CB items to cancel the debt.

I know you like to play CB, however sometimes RL gets in the way. I see you borrowing money in CB when you could be selling it to pay me back etc...

I feel I personally have been very generous in giving you 1 year to pay me back before even posting something like this.

And to attack me and get mad at me for wanting my money back is very disrespectful.

While I'm inclined to lock this thread to prevent further tales and stories from 3rd party players I won't yet do this.

I hope that this ordeal can be solved in a right way so that I don't have to make the last post in this. Good luck to both of you.

It's the passive aggressive nature of the post that would anger me.

This reads to me like a back handed attempt to get Sox to hand over his stuff. You should openly ask for it rather than weasel around. He very well may owe you the sum total of his items, I understand that. However the manner in which you're going about it is icky. If this ends with Sox leaving CB, I'm can assure you the community will not consider you blameless Ranger.

Whatever you're owed, I hope you get it.

*sigh*

sticky situation =/

On one hand, Ranger is not wrong to be upset that to this point he seems to have been outted his money, and if he's not, that it's taking so long to be repaid. I know if I loan somebody something, I expect it back.

On the other hand, I know what it's like to not be able to pay a debt. It makes one feel icky and useless. Furthermore, anyone knows that the kids are first, second, and third priority. And a "hard year" hardly states the issue for those of us down in the trenches doing bottom of the barrel jobs for minimal pay. A year and a half ago, I was living fairly close to where I am now, had a $12 /hr job for 30+ hours a week, and a near endless list of other job opertunities. After getting in a scooter accident and falling behind on my rent, I moved back with my mother "for a few months." When I got back down to where I'm staying now, I found that *all* of those oppertunities were gone... It took me nearly 3 months to find part time work at Quiznos, making less than minimum wage. I would venture to guess that south florida wasn't the only region that's had it's job market crumble to ruin in the past year or so.