Why do archers get to shoot when they're dead? (in General)


Rawr May 11 2009 2:57 AM EDT

Hal hit Haruno Sakura [551643]
Sakura's Guardian Angel smote Hal (291313)
Hal shot Haruno Sakura [737196]
Sakura's Guardian Angel smote Hal (387658)
Hal skewered Haruno Sakura [741687]
Sakura's Guardian Angel smote Hal (317203)
Hal struck deep into Haruno Sakura [697032]

The 4th Hal hit did not receive damage from GA... because he died.

I figured out that Ranger beats me because when his Archer (Dog) kills my mage, he shoots and kills my mage after dying himself. This results in all my minions dyings while his 20 hp enchanter is alive...

Is this how it is intended to work? That archers (or all physical damage, for that matter) can hit when dead?

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] May 11 2009 3:00 AM EDT

Everything happens at the same time, he fires four shots as fast as it takes the first to hit you

Eliteofdelete [Battle Royale] May 11 2009 3:02 AM EDT

Hes one quick archer ;)

Rawr May 11 2009 3:04 AM EDT

thats stupid... oh well.

Invader Sye May 11 2009 3:06 AM EDT

[Theory]

maybe the archer fires multiple arrows from a distance and GA retaliates when the arrows actually make contact. once the GA damage is created, it has to fly across ranged area and return damage to the archer.

if this were the case, then it would be possible that the archer can rattle off more shots while GA is returning. that would explain why the you're taking damage after the final GA blow, because Hal has already fired another shot while your GA is returning to him.

three4thsforsaken May 11 2009 3:10 AM EDT

Everything is like this Rawr.

three4thsforsaken May 11 2009 3:12 AM EDT

Sorry double post.

It's worth pointing out that your minions act first during offensive battles. This really applies with the exbow. This means when you attack offensively your exbow will drain the opponent before they even get to shoot their first shot.

Cube May 11 2009 3:21 AM EDT

It's not stupid. If he was a mage that killed himself with GA, he'd still do his full damage on the last hit.

Rawr May 11 2009 3:38 AM EDT

but mages can't multi hit
and archer still do the full damage even after they die from the GA. and then some.

Cube May 11 2009 3:48 AM EDT

It doesn't matter if they don't multi hit. Mages still do full damage too.

Mikel May 11 2009 4:46 AM EDT

you would have a valid point if the Archer was able to change up his targets after he kills one off, but since he just keeps on hitting the same target, then it really doesn't matter unless you are drawing/stalemating with that team.

Daz May 11 2009 5:11 AM EDT

The Arrows are already in the air! They just shoot that amount of arrows before the first one even makes contact.

ScY May 11 2009 6:44 AM EDT

These stupid minions need to learn how to fight in the shade...

QBRanger May 11 2009 8:36 AM EDT

"It's worth pointing out that your minions act first during offensive battles. This really applies with the exbow. This means when you attack offensively your exbow will drain the opponent before they even get to shoot their first shot."

Actually in this scenario, the defender does get to attack with his full strength that round, even though he was leeched in the attack phase.

QBRanger May 11 2009 8:58 AM EDT

As Mikel stated,

Give tanks the ability to change targets in the middle of their attack phase and I will be all in favor of changing how GA works while attacking.

However it is simultaneous attacks. One of the reasons that if I kill someones minion, they get to attack in the defensive phase of the round.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 11 2009 9:01 AM EDT

"Give tanks the ability to change targets in the middle of their attack phase"

right so effectively you want to give tanks with their quadruple hits a chance to change target in one round after the first target died?

So this means in one round, one minion using ranged or melee can kill of basically a whole team of 4 minions in just one round?

Yeah cry overpowered fast...

QBRanger May 11 2009 10:33 AM EDT

I never said I wanted this.

But if we are going for the change stated in the first post, that is tanks die when GA kills them, then give something in return.

QBRanger May 11 2009 4:20 PM EDT

"Give tanks the ability to change targets in the middle of their attack phase and I will be all in favor of changing how GA works while attacking. "

Henk,

Next time get the whole quote. Do not attempt to change what I say.
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