New topic: Insta down tattoos via the Blacksmith (in Debates)
QBRanger
May 13 2009 4:05 PM EDT
Why not let tattoos be available in the TA for insta down?
At 50%.
Do you mean like DE, where the TA just like takes it to base for 50% profit?
QBRanger
May 13 2009 4:18 PM EDT
Yes, you can DE it to any level you want. Getting 50% of the NW difference back.
If you want to go to base, that is your choice.
I don't know, I kindof like the way the tattoos price and insta down value are based on supply and demand. Tats also don't have to deal with the problems of the weapons, in that everyone uses tattoos, they're actually in really high demand. I'm not sure though, just off the cuff, I don't like it too much.
Lefty
May 13 2009 4:29 PM EDT
This seems fine to me, but not at 50%. 15% NW would work better, since most tattoos insta down/up for about 20-25% now, unless it's a very high level.
15% AT MAX, and a yes from me.
[P]Mitt
May 13 2009 4:31 PM EDT
I disagree. I like the status quo.
I'm fine with modifying the tattoo artist which allows you a choice to change tattoos: use up a base (or non-base) tattoo of the type you want to change into
or
Making the tattoo you want to change take a hit in level or networth when you change it with no other fee.
Cube
May 13 2009 4:31 PM EDT
I can see where this could be useful. If you buy a medium size tattoo, but want to use it to ink another tattoo.
However, 50% sounds a little high for low end tattoos. Not sure the best way to set it.
Demigod
May 13 2009 4:44 PM EDT
I don't see this one happening. But I do agree with masses that 50% is too high.
QBRanger
May 13 2009 4:50 PM EDT
Then what about 25%.
Now that, I like, provides a standard for all lower tats. When some tats of like lower than 500k are barely worth more than base.
I wouldn't mind it at all.
QBRanger
May 13 2009 5:18 PM EDT
My main thought was to get some of the less than 1m tattoos available for the TA.
Without having to spend 2-3M for it as someone just did.
Since the store offers 16%, 25% is not a bad little profit, but not too much to flood the market.
[P]Mitt
May 13 2009 5:20 PM EDT
I think the only use for insta-ing down a tat (without flooding the economy with loose cash) is to not waste a high-level tattoo when you use it in the tattoo artist.
That being said, I'd say to cap the money given back to 16%, or the cost of selling to the store. Therefore you can insta it down as if you're selling it to the store, but keep the base tattoo as well.
Still, I'm against the whole thing. Being able to disenchant a tattoo will flood the economy with money. I think we should be looking for more cash drains at this point.
Lefty
May 13 2009 5:23 PM EDT
"Since the store offers 16%, 25% is not a bad little profit, but not too much to flood the market. "
Personally, I'd say keep it the way it is then. If insta's from players sometimes don't run at 25%, then this would cause everyone to have to pay more, even at levels that aren't very high.
Lefty
May 13 2009 5:25 PM EDT
"That being said, I'd say to cap the money given back to 16%, or the cost of selling to the store. Therefore you can insta it down as if you're selling it to the store, but keep the base tattoo as well. "
This is what I will agree with.
I'm in 100% agreement with Mitt and his points.
QBRanger
May 13 2009 5:33 PM EDT
I am for anything the community wants to help generate more base familiars for the TA.
If 16% ok.
However, note that currently a 2.3M NW tattoo is close to being sold for NW.
Yeah, I told that fellow that he was getting hosed for that deal, and that 25% + base was the most he should go.
QBRanger
May 13 2009 5:36 PM EDT
I am working with him to try to get another at a far more reasonable cost.
There is such a thing as overcharging new players, I hate that.
Indeed, he hardly knew what he was signing into.
Wasp
May 14 2009 5:01 PM EDT
This is a good idea. Would bring in a bit more income for NCB teams. When they finish they can disenchant their tat and use the cash for the BA for the next ncb : )
Sickone
May 14 2009 6:16 PM EDT
Only if you also allow insta-ups at the blacksmith :)
QBRanger
May 14 2009 6:32 PM EDT
I think insta ups is a really really bad idea.
Maybe not, if it's at 500% or something.
Okay, okay, it's a really bad idea.
I don't really like it. Instaing up anyway.
Rawr
May 14 2009 6:52 PM EDT
Whats the difference between insta-ing up and just using the bsmith?
Demigod
May 14 2009 7:03 PM EDT
It's the idea of being able to buy EXP that's bad. Insta-up or -down with other players is just swapping. Doing that at the blacksmith is creating new EXP for money.
[P]Mitt
May 14 2009 9:01 PM EDT
Rawr, you can't blacksmith a tattoo.
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