Mercy of the Gloves (in Changelog)
To show some mercy for the aptly named gloves, they now work for the ELS as well.
[Update]: It looks like originally the GoM were not supposed to work with the BTH either. This hasn't been the case because of a typo. So for the record, the BTH also officially works with it now, even though it always did unofficially.
December 3 2009 3:41 PM EST
Thanks for the tweaks. They are appreciated.
December 3 2009 3:42 PM EST
Thanks for the update.
Will this change anyone from using TGs over the GoM?
If so, please let this thread know.
December 3 2009 3:42 PM EST
Now the GOM and ELS are the best weapon/item combination in the game!!
..okay, not so much, BUT this is a great improvement to 2 items that needed a little love. Thanks, NS!
December 3 2009 3:43 PM EST
Ranger - IDK. I imagine in the upper tiers where PTH becomes extremely expensive per point, it might make it worthwhile. ENC is also an issue though.
December 3 2009 3:44 PM EST
Wiki updated with this change.
December 3 2009 3:45 PM EST
I updated the wiki at the exact same time. Can we get lock-outs when editing?
December 3 2009 3:46 PM EST
No worries, I just wanted to link the changelog into the wiki just in case there are future questions.
Something I try to do with each wiki edit if it has reference to a specific changelog.
December 3 2009 3:48 PM EST
You may have a point.
Given (+14) $4,404,945 is relatively inexpensive near the top ranks, given the NW of weapons, named gloves at that level would give +30 PTH.
But is that better than +20% more strength, with its increased damage and ENC?
Does anyone know what extra damage 20% more strength would give. I realize this is weapon and base strength dependant, however anyone have a guestimate?
20% more STR should be 10% more damage.
December 3 2009 4:17 PM EST
10% more damage, or a third of an extra hit.
I'd choose the PTH, but again, that's totally leaving out the (important) ENC factor.
I think this might depend a lot on the setup of the tank. Lower str working better with GoM and high str working better with TG. I think this is a real competitor now though.
December 3 2009 4:59 PM EST
So the Elven Long Sword and the Blade of Thuringwethil both are considered to be small edged weapons?
no, the GoM has been expanded to include long edged one handed weapons as well
December 3 2009 5:00 PM EST
I do not think he stated that Shade.
He just added the ELS and BTH to the weapons that gain a bonus from usage with the GOM.
December 3 2009 5:01 PM EST
Not necessarily Shade, It was just to buff the GoM.
Each + on gloves gives +2 to Hit to the Elven Long Sword, Blade of Thuringwethil  and all Short Edged Weapons.
December 3 2009 5:02 PM EST
I'd say this to be a nice addition / expansion of the use of the item :)
Agreed, very helpful improvement.
December 3 2009 5:15 PM EST
<Admiralkiller> NS is it all Long edged weapons or just the ELS and BTH?
<Nemerizt> its all 1h edged weapons now
December 3 2009 5:37 PM EST
very nice :)
December 3 2009 6:39 PM EST
I've added / changed / improved / merged some of the Wiki pages which concern all of this.
Someone should double check though to see if I haven't made a mistake :)
December 3 2009 7:03 PM EST
<NightStrike> Shade, a battle axe is a "hafted" weapon
<NightStrike> a great axe is an "edged" weapon
<NightStrike> there is no "axe" class
<NightStrike> a loch is hafted as well
<NightStrike> whip is hafted
<NightStrike> I just changed the great axe to hafted
<NightStrike> thf is hafted
<NightStrike> we also have polearms
<Shade> lochaber and halberds both are polearms then?
<NightStrike> there's arrow, bolt, bow, xbow, edged, hafted, hammer, polearm, shot, sling, and vorpal
December 4 2009 7:47 AM EST
All Melee 1-Handed Short Edged Weapons, i.e. those affected by these changes have had their Wiki pages changed and fixed now.
I will be going through all other weapon pages now to fix loose ends and put up some prettification
"a loch is hafted as well"
Anyone else read that as shafted? ;)
December 4 2009 9:08 AM EST
Phew! ;) I'm glad I wasn't alone!
December 4 2009 9:33 AM EST
I bet all QB's read it that way :p
I'm glad you two aren't alone either - especially with all that talk about ... well, let's keep this PG.
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