Base level VA and Negative Regen (in General)


AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] December 22 2009 9:30 AM EST

Can we please have this looked at? I'm positive there is something wrong.

Training a just above base VA (level 1,227) and hitting for 1,040 damage, should according to the size of VA versus the damage done, reach the maximum effect.

Instead I drain for -301.

Not only shouldn't that happen, I'm using a BoTH with an innate 20% Drain, that is seemingly overridden by this negative drain from a near base, but not too low, VA.

QBRanger December 22 2009 9:32 AM EST

Yes,

It is a known problem that is best solved by not learning VA till you have enough xp to learn it higher than base.

Perhaps a solution would be to have it take 120,000 xp to learn given a level a bit higher than base, more like 10k. Which should prevent such problems.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] December 22 2009 9:33 AM EST

More confused (slightly increased my trained VA for these...)

Pariah carved into Minion Archery [1218]
Pariah draws strength from his weapon! [-12]

Pariah lacerated Minion Archery [1071]
Pariah draws strength from his weapon! [-21]

Pariah carved into Minion Archery [1058]
Pariah draws strength from his weapon! [-12]

Pariah carved into Minion Archery [1236]
Pariah draws strength from his weapon! [10]

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] December 22 2009 9:34 AM EST

Oh I know that Ranger. ;)

But why does it over ride the innate 20% leech from a BoTH?

Surely that's got to now be classified as a Bug, and not just some vaguerity about a base VA?

QBsutekh137 December 22 2009 9:40 AM EST

Yeah, I am not sure I've ever understood how negatives come out of the leech equation. If nothing else, slap a MAX(<leech value>, 0) around the final result so that zeroes would indicate you need to train VA more... Though I suppose negative numbers also do an adequate job of that. *smile*

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] December 22 2009 9:46 AM EST

With no VA, here's what my leech should look like (although that can just be easily calculted from the damage numbers);

Pariah dislimbed Zar'atar [1195]
Pariah draws strength from his weapon! [143]

(I'm assuming here the lower than 20% leech is due to lack of HP on the attacked minion. Hmm I'll go check that)

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] December 22 2009 9:47 AM EST

Pariah clove Gruyere [1186]
Pariah draws strength from his weapon! [237]

20%. All good there. ;)

AdminShade December 22 2009 11:14 AM EST

p.s. did you correct for base damage and damage reduction?

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] December 22 2009 6:10 PM EST

The drain shouldn't be effected by any of those, should it?

As it's based off of damage done, which is post any reductions.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] December 22 2009 7:35 PM EST

Raise the initial amount of xp to train!!!
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