Me and OB (in Off-topic)


Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2011 6:18 PM EST

Zenai, you are really hurting my feelings. Please stop, or I'm going to quit. I'm getting really butthurt over here.

I do not care either way princess. You were not my sole reason for leaving so do yourself a favor and stop giving yourself hollow credit it's unbecoming to say the least.

Also, I believe I already explained to you that you misunderstood my post. Saying that a facet of a suggestion is mildly retarded is very different from saying anyone who argues for that suggestion assumes that same property.

There is always a correlation when it comes to your posts OB I have not failed to remember this small detail about you.

Now stop trolling me just because you haven't learned how to read comprehensively yet.

Ha.....Ha.....Ha you are so incredibly articulate yet still your connotations are mildly retarded and almost yet not quite offensive. Ah yes that is always your intent.

Or at very least, help give this thread meaning.

It had plenty of meaning before you posted, you could have stayed out of it you know.

Ohhh but yes anything I am a part of you must find a way to oppose. I mean after all that is what you said in the Thinktank right? You would make it your personal mission to oppose me every chance you get. Thought I forgot about that huh OB? Heh I'll return the favor in kind now and we'll see just how much you and management likes it. If they stop me then they must stop you too since all I am doing is copying you. Oooooo you must be feeling awfully good about yourself since imitation is the highest form of flattery! ;-)

Let it finally have accomplished something good, and actually go the hell away, eh?

Ahh now we see the truth of the matter is that anything you don't must indeed die. You are not the only one who likes or dislikes things OB get over it. People will oppose your view, you can get over this too and learn how to be mildly civil and say things in a mildly respectful manner.

I don't know. Was the damned thread necessary?

To those it affected of course how callous can you be?! Oh right if it doesn't fall in with what you think it must be, since your logic is obviously infallible, then has no need to exist.

I can freely give my opinion to a topic, and shouldn't have to deal with being harassed for doing so.

Bingo! This should be no different for those who back a topic of which is the opposite of your view on it. You know these things tend to happen right?

Disagreeing with a given position is not the same as a personal attack on the individual backing that position, and the sooner people can learn that very, very simple fact, the sooner we can actually have civil debates in these forums.

When you can learn how to say things in a mildly civil and unveiled manner then maybe this same courtesy will be extended to you. Until then I'll be watching you ;-)

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] March 12 2011 6:21 PM EST


Poll: Which is better?

A. Watching? I thought you left?

B. So neither of you is going to be the bigger man and take the high road?

C. Dude, you make the popcorn this time!

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2011 6:27 PM EST

Bast be more attentive of the title. It says "Me and OB" not "Me, OB and Bast".

As far as the options I did say I would be around Forums and possibly chat now and then or did you miss that part madam detail?

BHT March 12 2011 6:28 PM EST

Burn.

NooneKnows March 12 2011 6:32 PM EST

"Bast be more attentive of the title. It says "Me and OB" not "Me, OB and Bast"."

then please, PLEASE keep it in PM. hell, exchange emails if you really want to argue. public forum is not the place for either of your personal attacks.

NooneKnows March 12 2011 6:34 PM EST

@Bast:

D. All of the above

Rubberduck[T] [Hell Blenders] March 12 2011 6:35 PM EST

Maybe expecting people to read "me and OB" as please no one but me and OB post in this thread is indicative of the way these issues arise.

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2011 6:39 PM EST

then please, PLEASE keep it in PM. hell, exchange emails if you really want to argue. public forum is not the place for either of your personal attacks.

It started public, that is the only way OB will be forced to finish this crap once and for all.

RD: Oh I know but since Bast wanted to throw her two cents in I returned them in kind. Turnabout is fair play no?

QBOddBird March 12 2011 6:39 PM EST

C. Dude, you make the popcorn this time!


Zenai, TL;DR

QBOddBird March 12 2011 6:40 PM EST

(it means too long; didn't read. And that thread was closed. If you want to play with me in Chatmails, feel free, but bring a kleenex.)

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2011 6:42 PM EST

Nah I like it here just fine OB. So go ahead and have a read. This shouldn't be a difficult task for someone of your stature.

QBOddBird March 12 2011 6:44 PM EST

Sigh.

An admin needs to close this thread, please, before I stop being nice to Zenai.

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2011 6:45 PM EST

Heh bring it on OB since you are the one and only voice that counts anyway right? This shouldn't be hard for you at all.

Admiralkiller [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2011 6:48 PM EST

No offense to either of you but come on! Really? = Lame!

Meet somewhere and settle this by a duel! Winner and loser agree to let it lie and die.

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2011 6:51 PM EST

AK: I would LOVE that!

Lochnivar March 12 2011 6:53 PM EST

Duels only still happen in Texas (and Alberta, the Texas of Canada) AK...

I just want the 5min I spent reading this thread back...

QBOddBird March 12 2011 7:01 PM EST

Fine, Zenai. I'll respond to your provocation.

We'll start recently, with the previous thread. My initial post stated that I disagreed with giving people XP for being gone, and that a liberal use of caps did nothing to convince me otherwise.

You misunderstood this, and took it as a personal attack, but later realized that it wasn't even directed toward you and - I had hoped - moved on.

Later on in the thread, I asserted that initial post, dismissed the silly notion that failing to create a vacation mode would be the end of CB, and pointed out that Bast was merely using basic logic in her posts - a tactic that is not, and should not, be beneath anyone.

I made the mistake of a phrase you are far too sensitive too - possibly due to familiarity? - in calling part of the suggestion "mildly retarded." This was my opinion, and I am certainly allowed to give my opinion in these forums.

At seeing this trigger phrase, however, you spontaneously combusted in the thread and railed against me, ignoring other players' consolation that it wasn't meant personally. I tried to explain this myself, and an admin even asked us to cut it out, but you wouldn't let it go.

As the thread progressed, you have become more and more aggressive, perhaps as a side effect of your inability to comprehend what you read and understand underlying tones, and you fail to agree to take a step back and chill out. I begin to wonder what sort of social disorder causes this sort of enragement, and I have been struggling hard not to make jabs at your childish provocations.

In the end, you don't even seem to understand that my feelings are unhurt. Making the statement, "Zenai, you are really hurting my feelings. Please stop, or I'm going to quit. I'm getting really butthurt over here," was an attempt at helping you to recognize how pathetic your constant cycle of whining, raging, quitting and returning is. Granted, it helps the community out because you tend to give away your stuff, and I do look forward to helping you rid yourself of the goods you have acquired with your hard earned cash again when you return and then ragequit - but the behavior itself is detrimental to you financially, emotionally, mentally, and seems to be affecting your stability.

So Zenai, I'll ask you one more time: Please stop. I fear for your safety. You are going out of control, failing to understand anything posted and simply resorting to virulent bouts of rage when anyone disagrees with you. Even in these threads, when people ASIDE from myself disagree, you seem to take it personally!

I'm concerned for you, Zenai. I don't think your manchild thought process is capable of handling these forums. For your own sake, before I stop being nice to you due to your apparent handicaps, I ask you to stop posting. It really is for your own good.

QBOddBird March 12 2011 7:03 PM EST

Oh, and I request a forumban, because I'm not going be this civil much longer if I continue to see angry and accusatory posts directed to me from Zenai. Thank you.

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2011 7:08 PM EST

TL;DR....means Too Long Didn't Read

You have a Summary available?

Oh and Im not angry at all OB, in fact I'm quite calm. Also it is not accusal if it is true now is it OB? What you though no one else can see what you have done and the kind of person you really are? Heh as if just no one wanted to stand up to you that is all.

As far as the Forum Ban well I'm copying you so if I get it so should you. ;-)

QBOddBird March 12 2011 7:10 PM EST

As far as the Forum Ban well I'm copying you so if I get it so should you. ;-)

I should have been more clear; I was requesting a forum ban for myself. Supposedly, you quit, so I shouldn't have to read your bile much longer regardless of a ban. I'm just concerned I might hurt your fragile emotional state if I'm allowed to keep posting.

QBOddBird March 12 2011 7:12 PM EST

What you though no one else can see what you have done and the kind of person you really are? Heh as if just no one wanted to stand up to you that is all.

That's a cute thought, but if you noticed, people were trying to tell you in the last thread that I wasn't posting anything offensive, or even directed, to you. I am now, of course, since you've provoked me; but to be fair, I shouldn't be responding. It's kind of like teasing a child that was dropped on its head far too often as an infant.

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2011 7:19 PM EST

I should have been more clear; I was requesting a forum ban for myself.

Then do it and be done with it OB.

shouldn't have to read your bile much longer regardless of a ban.

And you have the gall to say my state of mind when it is you who cannot seem to control himself? If posts then I must post quick Forum Ban me or I'll lose it!

You cannot be serious in thinking that this is not readily apparent.

Demigod March 12 2011 7:20 PM EST

Seriously, admins, close this. Now.

Newlin [SeeD] March 12 2011 7:22 PM EST

/me wonders how much longer this will go on before someone is forum banned...

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2011 7:23 PM EST

Demi: In all seriousness no this does need to end I agree but it needs to happen between him and I here and now. Otherwise it will simply come up again and again what good is this for anyone? No this needs to happen unfortunately.

three4thsforsaken March 12 2011 7:24 PM EST

Things still haven't changed after all this time :/

Zenai, I really wish you could stop focusing on all the people you dislike and enjoy yourself in this fun place. There is a lot of things in CB that you like, let's dwell on those things and enjoy them instead of fighting.

That would be cool ><

QBOddBird March 12 2011 7:25 PM EST

Then do it and be done with it OB.


You might not know how this works, but I'm not an admin, so I cannot.

when it is you who cannot seem to control himself? If posts then I must post quick Forum Ban me or I'll lose it!


Yes, I believe I admitted that I have a problem with responding when you post provocatively in the forum. It is even more problematic given your highly emotional reaction to even non-aggressive posts.

And you have the gall to say my state of mind


Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2011 7:28 PM EST

The problem with it is that OB is freeranging and no one is putting him in check. He's in every single thread attempted to be the "One Voice" of CB and readily shows and attempts to convince everyone that his logic is indeed the only logic.

It needs to end 3/4ths especially since he is the one who started this whole mess in the first place in the Thinktank.

QBOddBird March 12 2011 7:33 PM EST

Yeah guys, this whole thing is all my fault. Please stop blaming Zenai.

Just out of curiosity, how is starting a thread that continues an argument that admins closed earlier a way of "ending it?" Unless this is an account suicide with the attempt to take mine down with you...aha, you are cleverer than I thought! I'm done responding.

three4thsforsaken March 12 2011 7:33 PM EST

This is the internet, man. People can't be "stopped". You can't expect people to behave the way you expect them to. If things offend you, it's not like you can bring down justice or show them the fault in their ways.

I commend you for being honest and trying to smooth things over with OB, but such an approach doesn't always work. This isn't really the place to do that, and OB probably isn't the person that cares enough to change for you. And on the internet, that's his right.

I suggest you stop trying to fix whatever you see wrong in the situation and make things "right", and spend your energy on something that makes you feel positive. I think that would be healthy for you, and the community.

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2011 7:36 PM EST

You might not know how this works, but I'm not an admin, so I cannot.

Uh yeah I was responding to this:

I should have been more clear; I was requesting a forum ban for myself.

You forgot that you can request already? I mean maybe this is just me but Wyo is unstable here?

QBOddBird March 12 2011 7:37 PM EST

I don't know who Wyo is

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] March 12 2011 7:37 PM EST

which part of "take it to private messages" do we not understand? thread closed.

QBOddBird March 12 2011 7:37 PM EST

AH CRAP YOU MADE ME RESPOND I WILL NOT FALL FOR THIS GAME

rusty March 12 2011 7:38 PM EST

Tourney 72: The battle of Oddbird and Zenai.

OB and Zenai pick 5 people for each of their teams and they compete. loser gives up forum rights. :o Competetors on winning team get 5mil each.

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2011 7:46 PM EST

This is the internet, man. People can't be "stopped". You can't expect people to behave the way you expect them to. If things offend you, it's not like you can bring down justice or show them the fault in their ways.

Tell this to OB he is the one that literally promised he would do everything he could to oppose me in every way he could whenever he was able when we were in the Thinktank. Bottom line this one is not simply me, I admit I have gone above and beyond at tomes with OB but this seems to be the only way to get to him.

I commend you for being honest and trying to smooth things over with OB, but such an approach doesn't always work.

Oh I know this is simply a way to get it all out of both our systems. This has been strung out for quite a while.

This isn't really the place to do that, and OB probably isn't the person that cares enough to change for you.

I don't want him to change I simply want him to stop targeting me.

And on the internet, that's his right.

See now this is the part that gets me, its his right but apparently not mine since I should be the one to take the high road? No offense but that is the largest pile of horsepucky I have ever seen.

I suggest you stop trying to fix whatever you see wrong in the situation and make things "right", and spend your energy on something that makes you feel positive. I think that would be healthy for you, and the community.

The point is I am. If OB lays off the targeting then the community will indeed be better off don't you think? How much more positive can you get?
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