ToE (in General)

QBRanger June 24 2011 11:48 AM EDT

Nice tattoo but a bit underwhelming.

As there are 4 types of damage in the game, I feel it should protect vs at least 2.

Just my thought.

I would like to see it work vs both physical and GA damage.


AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] June 24 2011 11:51 AM EDT

Simple fix, make the SS an aura like regular SS.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] June 24 2011 11:51 AM EDT

I think it needs a bigger revision than this, it's mediocre down low and punishing for PR up high.

Just adding GA doesn't make it that much more viable.

Zenai [Ministry of Pain] June 24 2011 11:57 AM EDT

Well if it ramped up/down a bit more smoothly it would be nice considering it just drops off,for the most part, at a certain level. After that it is pretty much nothing more that added PR which is counterproductive.

Quyen June 24 2011 11:58 AM EDT

i would enjoy it if it added GA damage, as thats one of my weaknesses :)

QBJohnnywas June 24 2011 12:29 PM EDT

Give me RBF protection!

Quyen June 24 2011 12:36 PM EDT

lol.. add some RoBF defense and GA defense :) like 1/10th of the tattoo level or damage reduction/10*(GA power+1) :D

QBRanger June 24 2011 2:03 PM EDT

Right now I think the TOE is a bit off as a tattoo.

It ramps up its ability to lower physical damage quickly and then flatlines.

It also works on only 1 of 4 damage types.

Remember the old days when the TOE worked on a certain amount of damage based upon its level. Any damage over that cap was unaffected?

One possibly solution: Make the TOE lower damage up to 1/10th its level by 50-66% (would need to be titrated to find best amount) and no effect on damage over that cap.

Have it lower RBF and GA damage by 20% up to 1/10 the tattoo level.

For GA, I cannot see the cap ever being reached in almost all cases. Therefore the ToE would make GA return 40% damage from 60%.

Have it not effect magic damage at all.

Please note I do not use the ToE and would be adversely effected by this change.

And if you can find old threads by me about this, I have always wanted the TOE to work vs another damage type even thought I never used it since the beginning of the game.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] June 24 2011 2:05 PM EDT

I don't think anyone's arguing against you that the ToE needs a bit of a boost.

QBRanger June 24 2011 2:08 PM EDT

I don't think anyone's arguing against you that the ToE needs a bit of a boost.


Since NS is busy with RL issues, how about we as a community come up with a possible buff and present it to Jon and NS for consideration?

What do you feel about the current proposals>

King June 24 2011 3:04 PM EDT

Please note I do not use the ToE and would be adversely effected by this change.

This is easily changed with the tattoo artist.

I do think the RoBF protection would be awesome since not everyone has a spare minion/can afford a high AC wall set to counter the constantly growing damage of the RoBFs.

I'm not a fan of the GA defense. I am biased, as I use GA. Most ToE's wouldn't have any problems covering the spread as GA returns are based on your own damage, teams that consistently hit for over 3M are rare. The ability to bring GA damage down to 40% means VA would be capable of completely countering the spell and if a Morg or BoTH was thrown on top you'd be draining more HP than the retaliation damage is capable of dishing out.
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