# Forge Question (in General)

## WaldoMarch 30 2012 9:47 AM EDT

Haven't forged before & I wanted to try it out for a day or so just to see what its like..that and I still have a few days of \$0 BA and am at max so why not use it for forging?

My only question before starting up is are the times in the forge formulas given in pure seconds (ie 105 = 1min 45sec) or are they given in min/sec format (ie 105 = 1min 05sec)?

Thanks in advance :)

## AdminShadeMarch 30 2012 9:53 AM EDT

Hi Waldo, not trying to blunt here but you can find loads of information about it in the help.

Try here: http://www.carnageblender.com/wiki/Forging

:)

## {WW]Nayab[Cult of the Valaraukar]March 30 2012 10:05 AM EDT

Its all in minutes. So if it were 105, you would heat it for 10, 10min periods and 1 5min period.

## Phoenix[The Forgehood]March 30 2012 12:09 PM EDT

Something else to note is that if a formula has a :, the numbers following is in seconds.

## WaldoMarch 30 2012 12:14 PM EDT

Thanks for all the info. I think I would have done better to leave my NUB char active while I was forging but then it would have messed with my BA regen rate to get to max in prep for my NCB..oh well got a bit added to my MoD for only forge fees (I am REALLY going to miss free extra BA)

## {WW]Nayab[Cult of the Valaraukar]March 30 2012 7:13 PM EDT

I was under the impression that forging using a high mpr character increases your efficiency.
Can a forger please comment about that?

## Phoenix[The Forgehood]March 30 2012 7:18 PM EDT

The forge efficiency does not increase.
The amount you put in while forging is greater with a bigger character though.
This is due to the fact that efficiency is calculated with the cost of ba which is correlated with character size.

Yes it does.

I am confused.

## Phoenix[The Forgehood]March 30 2012 9:44 PM EDT

Essentially you might forge 1m when your ba costs 1K each, but you can forge say 2m when your ba costs 2K each. Something like that.

## BestNUBMarch 30 2012 9:53 PM EDT

So the end result is using a higher MPR character is better, correct?

yes.

## WaldoMarch 31 2012 1:24 PM EDT

So just to recap forge efficiency is determined by BA cost.
Meaning:
1) a NUB at any regen rate will do very little due to 0 BA cost
2) a regular characters efficiency is based on regen rate
3) a NCB is also based on regen rate but should be more efficient due to the higher BA cost on a NCB

Can someone confirm this?

## AdminTitan[The Sky Forge]March 31 2012 4:41 PM EDT

1) a NUB at any regen rate will do very little due to 0 BA cost
No, NUBs forge at the same rate as a char of same MPR and non-NUB

3) a NCB is also based on regen rate but should be more efficient due to the higher BA cost on a NCB
No, NCB doesn't affect forge efficiency

Basically all you need to know is this. The higher your MPR, the better your forge efficiency.

## smallpau1 - Go Blues[Lower My Fees]March 31 2012 5:50 PM EDT

Forge efficiency is always the same. Efficiency just determines how useful your BA is in raising NW on a particular item. Say your character is 1M MPR and the forge efficiency is 1.22, think of it as 1M MPR x 1.22Eff. A 2M MPR char is going to forge at a higher rate than the 1M. But the Efficiency will still be at 1.22.

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