Putting something in auction, then bidding on it. (in General)


Thug [Sponge] July 16 2013 8:02 PM EDT

This sounds like a bug to me.

A.J. Durai placed tat in auction, then bid on it.

I know you can pull something out of auctions if no one has bid on it.

I do not believe he did any thing wrong. Probably checking on the bids or something. I just think that should not be able to happen.

Am I wrong?
Thug

Underage Drinking [Battle Royale] July 16 2013 8:05 PM EDT

lol i didnt even notice it was mine, totally by habit to instigate prices. i was fooled by my own generosity to offer an item with no buy now only.

DoS [Demon Forging] July 17 2013 11:46 AM EDT

Is this a first? o.O That'd be crazy if we went this long without no one realizing it. Probably a bug, though.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] July 17 2013 2:19 PM EDT

Just put a level 20 ToE up in auctions, can't figure out how to bid on it.

I just get the 'cancel auction' link. :/

Maybe after someone else has bid on it. Not sure.

Underage Drinking [Battle Royale] July 17 2013 4:26 PM EDT

On another note if this is something new I've also noticed that auctions and rentals both re instated it's rules for a minimum nw on an item. Meaning I can't put an hoc or an in rentals without 50,000 nw and I am unable to put a base hxbow in auctions

Newlin [SeeD] July 19 2013 10:50 AM EDT

I can confirm you can bid on your own items.

The link to place the bid shows up as "your bid" instead of "place your bid" on my own items.

Underage Drinking [Battle Royale] July 19 2013 11:11 AM EDT

more or less implies you can have a reserved minimum to selling an item, JUST LIKE EBAY!

Thug [Sponge] July 19 2013 6:25 PM EDT

you got that by being able to set the starting price.

My dealing with you, I have thought were always fair.

It is just deceptive for anyone not paying attention to the details.

You should never be bidding against the owner of an item.

And That is my Opinion.

Demigod July 19 2013 6:44 PM EDT

::Shrug:: When Ebay allowed sniping, I had friends try to start bidding wars. Due to loss avoidance, people would pay more in bidding wars than in fair transactions. It only sucked when the buddy accidentally won the item.

Thug [Sponge] July 19 2013 11:36 PM EDT

I do not have a problem with friends sniping.

I have a problem with the one selling the item sniping.

Fishead July 21 2013 4:37 AM EDT

I have to agree with Thug. You have no business bidding on your own auction. The first one is excusable if you truly didn't realize it was your own auction, but you should have stopped after that and let the auction run it's course.

An admin needs to address this problem.

Thug [Sponge] August 14 2013 11:48 PM EDT

I do have to admit it is fun bidding up your own item.

I still say it is not right.

Underage Drinking [Battle Royale] August 15 2013 12:16 AM EDT

The difference is that I only did it for one item. I wont cry abuse because I am willing to pay that much, but when does this go too far?

Thug [Sponge] August 15 2013 9:00 AM EDT

I believe it goes to far as soon as you hit that button,and every time after that. I also knew you would not pay more than double what you could sell them for.

As for the only time, that might be the way you see it. To me it is a half truth. Because I have seen you bid on other items you have posted. Not, many but I have not looked that hard.
But, you are a master of the system as it is. I respect that, and that there was no whining, when it swung back at you.

This is my opinion.
You are good cb. You have been fair and helped me. When I need something or want to sell, I try to see what you are asking or have sold something for. You help drive the cb economy.

I believe that is a flaw in the auction system.

Marcus Aurelius fed chairman.
Marcus Aurelius for cb chairman.


So Thank you for Me.
Thank you for cb.
Thank you for the new players you help.

Thug

Underage Drinking [Battle Royale] August 15 2013 1:40 PM EDT

Thank you Thug, I appreciate that comment.

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] August 15 2013 8:43 PM EDT

I've known about this for a long time now. Personally I've never even thought of it as an issue. If someone bids on their own item just to drive up the price, simply stop bidding on it. They'll get the item back, lose the listing fee, and waste their time.

Now if you are talking about driving up the price just to potentially make you hit what your highest bid was then potentially I can see it as gaming the system a little bit. However, you decide your max bid and lock yourself into that amount, which means you are willing to pay that price for the item, so really anything below that amount is a discount on what you believed the item was worth. I really don't have any qualms with this personally, even if the owner of the item wants to drive the price up himself.

There is no actual potential for abuse.

Underage Drinking [Battle Royale] August 15 2013 9:45 PM EDT

Yes and no, If we experience the same scenario like the auction I had where I re entered a bid after being out bidded on my own item that entails some sort of abuse even if the person auctioning the item in question is only gambling the fee to list an item. This is why i have been know to host 8day buy now auction house items, and the odd time i give back when i receive a drop from the system. I wont deny my part in that auction in question that created this thread.
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