T89 - Battle of the Juggernauts (in Contests)

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] August 17 2013 1:38 PM EDT

1600 BA Limit / Bonus 100% / No Regen / 600m Starting XP FFA

Restrictions: Lesser Tats Only
Win Condition: Highest NW

1st - 3m
2nd - 2m
3rd - 1m

Runs: 18-25th of August.
Start 12:00PM EDT

Unappreciated Misnomer August 17 2013 1:42 PM EDT

600m Starting XP FFA


Newlin [SeeD] August 17 2013 4:09 PM EDT

Nice, thanks Xeno!

For NW will that include the NW of tattoos as well?

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] August 17 2013 6:29 PM EDT

Its however the NW shown in the Character standings is calculated, which I believe does include tattoo level, so long as it's equipped.

Unappreciated Misnomer August 18 2013 1:53 PM EDT

Buying and selling Aoi's are profitable because you ahve little to no rewards or starting cash

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] August 18 2013 2:21 PM EDT

Fixing all of those now, I forgot to do it last night.

Unappreciated Misnomer August 18 2013 2:26 PM EDT

Unfortunately I can still have free NW, an Aoi sells to the store for 542k, profit of 492k after your little adjustment. Im sure the AoJ has something similar just less.

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] August 18 2013 2:29 PM EDT

I just re-adjusted the price, I'll simply remove them as an option next time for something like this. Good thing I was here.

Colonel Custard August 18 2013 3:49 PM EDT

So, I realize that he was forthcoming about it, but is something going to be done about the fact that Marcus Aurelius used a loophole to gain NW, giving himself a considerable advantage towards the tournament's victory conditions, before it was closed and disallowed to everyone else?

Unappreciated Misnomer August 18 2013 3:50 PM EDT

then all aoi and aoj should be removed from the tourney as im not the only one.

Newlin [SeeD] August 18 2013 3:58 PM EDT

You also have a situation where spending 600k nets you 1.5m NW as you don't even need to it be equipped to count, unless I am mistaken.

Colonel Custard August 18 2013 4:33 PM EDT

According to the store purchase log, it appears that you are the only one. Unless there's some other way involving other items, I don't see why people's tourney characters are selling things to the store.

Colonel Custard August 18 2013 4:43 PM EDT

On my single-minion character, my character's NW includes all items equipped and in inventory. However, my character info page will accurately display my equipped NW by looking at the minion himself.

Since no tourney character can afford a second minion, I suggest the winner be decided by Minion NW, in order to avoid any exploit by buying multiple overvalued amulets.

I have 1 AoI, which I purchased for 600k and which I cannot sell at a profit. The difference between what Newlin points out and what Marcus Aurelius did is that anyone can do what I did, whereas he himself admits he made monetary profit, directly allowing him (and only him) to work with a liquidity advantage.

Newlin [SeeD] August 18 2013 5:05 PM EDT

We could do minion NW, the end game there would be to grow a tattoo and then sell it since it doesn't count toward minion NW.

Unappreciated Misnomer August 18 2013 5:26 PM EDT

You are wrong Col. I retired runner and started over with iii.

Colonel Custard August 18 2013 10:13 PM EDT

So you did. My apologies.

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] August 19 2013 1:51 AM EDT

I've since corrected the issue, unless there is another item in which case please let me know so I can remember for future tourneys. The character was retired, and only your final run will count.

I will be going by NW listed on the minion itself, not the team page. There was a reason this was single minion only.

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] August 19 2013 1:52 AM EDT

If I have to reset everything back a day I will, but I don't think I'll need to.

I'll be watching.

Unappreciated Misnomer August 19 2013 2:08 AM EDT

So to clarify tattoo NW will not be included?

Rubberduck[T] [Hell Blenders] August 19 2013 6:06 AM EDT

"I will be going by NW listed on the minion itself"

which does not include tat nw

Rubberduck[T] [Hell Blenders] August 19 2013 6:41 AM EDT

could you just clarify that you bought your AoI for 600k

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] August 19 2013 5:26 PM EDT

I don't know why I said that, because I'm going to be going off the character standings. So pretty sure that's calc'd with everything.

Too many questions lol. Ready, its a FFA from this point. With the exception of buying and selling AoI/AoJs for mass profit, which I'm pretty sure I've put a stop to now, anything goes. So if you can imagine up some crazy way to achieve this goal then by all means try it out.

Remember this tourney is a week long and only the last character you ran will count.

{DF}malS 'lo emaS [Demon Forging] August 21 2013 11:42 AM EDT

so then just to be 100% you're going off the nw on the summary tab for each character then?

DoS August 21 2013 1:26 PM EDT

Yeah, the NW on the summary tab is the NW shown on the character standings page.

QBPixel Sage August 21 2013 2:06 PM EDT

So basically this tournament is to see who can get the most upgraded items (in terms of cost) on their character and inventory?

QBPixel Sage August 21 2013 2:09 PM EDT

And if so, doesn't that kind of make this a race for getting as many AoI/AoJ as possible?

{DF}malS 'lo emaS [Demon Forging] August 21 2013 2:14 PM EDT

that's what it seems like ... i think with perfectly planned battles you could get 3

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] August 21 2013 8:21 PM EDT

^ Yes the idea is to see who can grow/purchase/forge (if its even possible in tourneys, I've never tried) the most NW within the restrictions.

I was very much interested in the ways people would go about it, however the AoJ/AoI bug in the beginning of the tourney was an oversight on my part. I keep forgetting that they default to an extremely low price when I initiate the tourney and set up the items that are allowed for use.

I'm going to have to put a big glaring reminder for myself in the T-Admin page or something so I don't keep forgetting about that.

Newlin [SeeD] August 21 2013 8:26 PM EDT

I seem to remember a tournament that ended up being who could forge the most NW into their TGs. I believe it had a large MPR character with no additional fighting bonus.

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] August 21 2013 8:29 PM EDT

^^^ Also for full clarification, yes I will be going off the NW listed in the Character standings which is the same NW listed on the summary tab.

{DF}malS 'lo emaS [Demon Forging] August 22 2013 1:05 PM EDT

i think i may just be imagining this, but is my tourney char mpr messing with my ba re-rate ? i keep only getting 6 ba ...

DoS August 22 2013 1:27 PM EDT

Yes. It is a known issue. You can see your current refresh rate on your user page too ;)

{DF}malS 'lo emaS [Demon Forging] August 22 2013 1:30 PM EDT

sure enough, that's doodoo

QBPixel Sage August 22 2013 3:17 PM EDT

Oh snap crackle. Does bonus money time and stuff happen for tournaments?

Newlin [SeeD] August 22 2013 4:01 PM EDT

It does not.

QBPixel Sage August 22 2013 4:11 PM EDT

Oh okay. *phew*

Rubberduck[T] [Hell Blenders] August 23 2013 8:30 AM EDT

I just started a new char, I'm getting negative challenge bonuses, is this because it has slipped out of the 7 regen band?

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] August 25 2013 1:29 PM EDT

And here are our winners.

1st - Newlin
2nd - malS 'lo emaS
3rd - Marcus Aurelius

I'll send over the prizes in a bit.

TourneyPrizes August 25 2013 1:36 PM EDT

TourneyPrizes (TourneyPrizes) Marcus Aurelius (db) $1000000 -- T89 - 3rd Place 1:36 PM EDT
TourneyPrizes (TourneyPrizes) malS 'lo emaS (BobbyTechHopsin) $2000000 -- T89 - 2nd Place 1:35 PM EDT
TourneyPrizes (TourneyPrizes) Newlin (damage control) $3000000 -- T89 - 1st Place 1:34 PM EDT

Thanks for playing everyone.

{DF}malS 'lo emaS [Demon Forging] August 25 2013 1:53 PM EDT

thanks for the tourney and newlin ... GG

Newlin [SeeD] August 25 2013 7:25 PM EDT

Thanks. And thank you Xeno for putting on the tournament.
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