Regarding NUBs (in General)


AdminTal Destra February 12 9:28 AM EST

I have heard lots of chatter about wanting to be able to transfer characters to new users NUB accounts. The policy is this - You may make a new account. You abandon old characters and accounts. You may keep your equipment and money.

Heck if you want, we admins can change the name on the old account and give your name back to you.

salt3d [Ministry of Pain] February 12 4:16 PM EST

Pro tip: if you change the name of your old account before you abandon it, the name will be available to your new account. The same applies to your email address.

Source: I did this.

SuiteStuff [C and S Forgery Lmtd.] February 12 4:41 PM EST

Just for clarification. All characters will be new and old characters will not be transferred?

AdminTal Destra February 12 7:35 PM EST

I don't believe any clarification is necessary but here it goes:

If you want to start a new user and gain a New User Bonus (NUB) you may not transfer any characters from the old account. To anyone. It is gone forever. End of discussion.

If need be in the future the admins can just Nuke the old account. I really don't want to use that option because I see it as a fun bonus to be able to beat my old characters.

Belome(Joel) [Ministry of Pain] February 12 9:14 PM EST

Can NO ONE'S character be transferred to anyone's new NUB?
I have a very specific scenario: when I start my new NUB I want to remain at 6/20 at any cost (since adequate sleep is nearly priceless), so I splurge on buying someone else's 6/20 character. As long as the character they sell to me never belonged to me at any other time, would that be fine?
Sorry to make you act like some kind of CB2 lawyer, Tal, I just don't want to be jerked around when I try something that isn't explicitly against the rules only to be told I can't do it at the last minute.

Belome(Joel) [Ministry of Pain] February 12 9:30 PM EST

I just found a post from Admindudemus on an old 2009 post of mine that is very similar to this one:

http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002tU0

"on your NCB character do you still get increased rewards based on BA regen level?"

you do not, you get your rewards based on the ba regen rate of the character fighting, so if you are fighting with your ncb, you will pay the cost of your highest mpr for bought ba but your rewards will be based on your ncb.

So, if this really is true, and also works the same way for NUBs as it does for NCBs, then I would only be shooting myself in the foot by wanting a 6/20 character active. I'd be receiving 6/20 BA regen, but I would only be getting the fight rewards for a 10/20 regen character, at the start of my new NUB for example.... Right?

AdminTal Destra February 12 11:25 PM EST

If you start a new user, you must ABANDON all old characters. The new user ID will not gain an old character (within a time limit).


9 months to the day of creation you may purchase and transfer a character to the user.

Old characters will not receive a NUB bonus.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] February 12 11:51 PM EST

There is no reason to try or want to transfer old characters onto a new account. They will not receive the nub bonus so the most you would get if you were fighting with the old char is free bought BA for the duration of the nub and the cost of transferring the char will offset that. Otherwise it will just cost you BA as your regen rate will go down without any bonus to rewards. Again the xfer will cost as well.

salt3d [Ministry of Pain] February 13 12:15 AM EST

Does this spoil my plan to get someone to transfer an old, low MPR character to me to bump my account into Gondor? I was thinking I could save myself an extra click when looking at stats. Just to be sure I didn't shoot myself in the foot I was going to wait until my NUB ends.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] February 13 12:34 AM EST

That is for the best. At best it would just put you into Gondor, at worst you would lose the money boost part of the NUB. I ran into problems with my own NUB back when I was first starting because I bought The Four Seasons when I was only halfway through my NUB bonus. I don't remember if this killed the money bonus entirely or if it was only for fighting with the older character as its been many years but it's best to wait until after the NUB ends.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] February 13 10:28 AM EST

A deeper discussion of this is warranted I suspect - we can get a few other things out of the way first I guess.

Wasp [C and S Forgery Lmtd.] February 13 4:43 PM EST

Silly question... in games like Shakes and Fidget and Clash of Clans, games where you can't transfer to another character; it didn't matter how many accounts you have.

I'd love to start a new NUB and play it alongside this account. I just wouldn't want to lose this account. You know... it's been here since the start.

Is there no way of being able to create an NUB and have 2 accounts. If it's in the open and you physically don't ever transfer anything (no exceptions)then I don't see the problem? If anything it gets more action for the servers and gets more accounts fighting. Can't be a bad thing? Granted I might be missing somewhere here but with the low levels of players - it's not hard to police. Coupled with the fact that it's mostly old vets playing, who are pretty sound people, I really don't see an issue?

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] February 13 4:45 PM EST

Wasp: people have lost thousands of dollars of stuff for doing that - before we cross that line I'd like to see us come together to make CB sustainable

Wasp [C and S Forgery Lmtd.] February 13 4:56 PM EST

Why/how did they lose that?

Wasp [C and S Forgery Lmtd.] February 13 4:59 PM EST

Double post....

So there's not really any options for me to enjoy this game currently. I check back every once in a while. Sometimes I stay a while. All I can do is forge stuff until I'm bored again and disappear. I can't afford an NCB. Can't really attack with this character, hell, it's not even mine - bought it a long time ago (to forge with lol)

I don't really want to have to start a new character to give an NUB and have to delete this.

Is there the possibility for me to retire my characters and start a new character with the NUB bonus??

salt3d [Ministry of Pain] February 13 5:13 PM EST

Yes. It involves a new account, but I think you knew that.

You're clinging to an 'account creation' date. Is it really that special?

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] February 13 6:15 PM EST

Yes, I'm with Wasp in feeling it is that special, but I was someone who played CB1 until the last possible second

Wasp - they were fined as multis, I suspect we aren't going to do a whole lot of that in the next few months as things progress - however I don't see ditching a core tenant of the game as a good choice either.

I hope you keep checking back, and I hope we find a way to catch your attention again.

salt3d [Ministry of Pain] February 13 8:00 PM EST

I had a 1/1/2005 creation date on my old account too, so I understand the attachment. But since the choice is essentially between 'keeping your account as a badge of honour' and 'actually playing the game', I strongly recommend the latter to any player with even a passing interest in returning to the game.

salt3d [Ministry of Pain] February 13 8:02 PM EST

Just to clarify, Wasp, your existing account isn't deleted. You just stop using it.

AdminTal Destra February 13 9:16 PM EST

I am aiming for not having "multis" by having you abandon the old account. you only get one user ID at a time. and only once every 6 months can you do this.

CoolWater [Superheros] February 17 12:35 PM EST

My acc started 1/1/2005 as well. Didn't realize it has been that long. 12 years of CB. I was thinking of NUB too, but don't feel like ditching this account.
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