Another Multi that Inferno May Have Missed? (in Public Record)

Thraklight Resonance September 17 2005 5:38 PM EDT

Recent Transfers
From IP To What When
Inferno (Eternal Flame) auctioneer (auctioneer) $39999 (bid 29744) August 17 2005 3:48 PM EDT
Inferno (Eternal Flame) auctioneer (auctioneer) $25000 (bid 29581) August 17 2005 3:47 PM EDT
Inferno (Eternal Flame) auctioneer (auctioneer) $30000 (bid 29720) August 17 2005 3:45 PM EDT
TheEvolution (Demon Spawn) Inferno (Eternal Flame) A Lesser Fire Familiar ($1916282) August 17 2005 3:42 PM EDT
TheEvolution (Demon Spawn) Inferno (Eternal Flame) $400000 August 17 2005 3:42 PM EDT

QBOddBird September 17 2005 5:44 PM EDT

I'll be writing this down as an alternative definition for irony.

Especially since it has more proof of being a multi than any of Inferno's posts (which simply had shared IPs) - this one has an account with all score 0 characters, 1 sided transfers, AND the shared IP.

Synco September 17 2005 5:45 PM EDT

You're right. Evolution sent him that cash the day Evo quit. Also, Evo named his chars with names relating to Inferno.

Ilovehellokitty September 17 2005 5:46 PM EDT

Nice Job Inferno. You have just got made lol. This is the funniest thing i have seen.

Synco September 17 2005 5:46 PM EDT

And Evo quit the day Inferno joined.

Inferno September 17 2005 6:11 PM EDT

Eh.. He told me to start this game before he quit, since I do like RPG games.. Well he said he would tell me how to play is i promised to atleast play for a week, and he gave me that stuff to start with lol, Well are families are close, we share Internet through 'My Network Places'. He said he might come back some time after Christmas which is a long time, if u want I could get him to explain this situation..

I didn't know we had the same I.P.s tho

Inferno September 17 2005 6:12 PM EDT

Oh and BTW: He said he wanted me to name myself 'Inferno' I have no idea why....

[T]Vestax September 17 2005 6:17 PM EDT

I'm afraid your a victim of Evo's generosity. It's been nice knowing you though. IS a Multi.

Inferno September 17 2005 6:19 PM EDT

What!?! You can't be serious.. He's not me! I'm not him! This is my account, that's his account! Sheesh can't u get that.

QBOddBird September 17 2005 6:24 PM EDT

....said all the other multis.

Inferno September 17 2005 6:28 PM EDT

But how do I give proof... He's not home..

Special J September 17 2005 6:46 PM EDT

Best thing, ever.

Ilovehellokitty September 17 2005 6:55 PM EDT

Faster than a wind. He sold out and jet. and come on..when i joined for my first 5 days i dont "even think" i will spend 40$ for stuff I can't use either. Nice "ally" you have there Inferno. Buuuuussssteed.

LumpBot September 17 2005 6:58 PM EDT

Not choosing sides, but I do remember Mikel buying some stuff for USD on his start, and he sold most of it. Of course he isn't a multi by far. So let the admins investigate, and let's not pass judgement this early.

Bobbins September 17 2005 7:05 PM EDT

Ally? Lol U Think I'm Him To Don't You? Omg Lol U Ppl Really Are Clueless Aren't You? Lol If You Want To Contact Me About This Plz Do So I Can Explain It All Later But Right Now I'm Outtie Ban Me For No Reason If You Must But Remember This... Even In A Game Ppl Should Be Heard Out Not Just Banned Without A Trial Even The Lowest Government Knows That I should Think Civilized Ppl Like Yourselves Would Know That.

Ilovehellokitty September 17 2005 7:08 PM EDT

That's the worst Asian-try-to-be-leet typing i have ever seen.

Will [Retired] September 17 2005 7:23 PM EDT

Haha omg, Gatekeeper last logged in on the 12th of Sept, the same day he transferred 60k to Bobbins, the same day Bobbins created their account...

Gatekeeper made a post about leaving, thanking everyone (especially Evolution) for the great time he had. It just keeps on going round in circles...

QBRanger September 17 2005 7:27 PM EDT


For those of us computer illiterate,

Multi or not?

Will [Retired] September 17 2005 7:38 PM EDT

I dunno, is Montreal near to Toronto? Similar internet providers for the IPs that they're all using anyway...

Bobbins September 17 2005 7:47 PM EDT

Have You Ever Heard Of Something Called Brothers? Gatekeeper Is My Big Brother. Right Now I'm At My Grandparents Next Weekend I Go To My Moms So I Will Have 3 IP's If I Make Another Account On Any Of Those Ban Me And I Will Understand But Not Because My Big Brother Played On The Same Game At The Same House. Happy? No I Suppose Your Not Your Never Happy Are You Ppl? You Always Have To Pick On The New Players For Things They Know Nothing About If I'd Have Known Having A Brother On The Same Game I Never Would Have Joined. But What Happened Happened And I Cant Change That. I Never Knew Having A Big Brother On The Same Game Was Illegal.

Unwanted Memories September 17 2005 8:03 PM EDT

If i may interject. The idea of having your brother aide you in starting this game would still be considered agianst the transfer rules for the same IP's. I've looked into this as Rey wanted to know if she could help me start off. Which the answer was no. If the shoe that fits this situation does not warrent higher investigation then the idea of say a loved one be it girlfriend, boyfriend, brother, sister, mother, or father that would play this game then decide to leave and pass on their legacy to their next of kin as it were would stipulate that if the third party in Rey and my relationship wanted to play her and I could quit and pass everything both of us have onto her. Would that not be a violation of the rules and ethics of the same IP restrictions. Now mind you i am not berating you inferno as being Rey and me were apart of your Multi hunt but i do believe that in any system of government as you so went about earlier this would be a prosecutable offence... To my knowledge this would be considered Laundering. just my 2 cents.

Bobbins September 17 2005 8:13 PM EDT

Ok I Didnt Know That If I Would Have Known I Never Would Have Accepted The Cash. It Is My Fault I Guess But Now I Know That And It Wont Happen Again (If I Get Another Chance) Anyway I Accept What Happens And If I Get Banned It Was Nice... Well I Cant Say It Was Nice To Know You Lol But It Was Nice To Have Played This Game Even If For Such A Short Time. If I Get Banned Then Farewell And I Hope I Meet You All Someday On Some Other Game.

Ilovehellokitty September 17 2005 8:19 PM EDT

Please dont quit. You already 'have invested' $40 dollars in this game already. Why not try to sell it before you leave? I am sure you can sell it under 30 minutes.

Bobbins September 17 2005 8:21 PM EDT

Look If It'll Make You Feel Better I'll Give The 60k Back To Gatekeeper Ok?

Bobbins September 17 2005 8:56 PM EDT

Ok I'm Not Keeping The 60k Its Dirty Money But I Bought The Other Stuff So I'm Keeping It If You Have A Problem With This... Post It Or C.M. Me But I'm Not Keeping The 60k

Special J September 17 2005 8:59 PM EDT

I want to fine people for using capitals on every word and using "leet" typing.

It makes you look like a complete moron, seriously.

Inferno September 17 2005 9:03 PM EDT

Now what are you going to do ban him for typing with capitals for every word. That is wierd but come on..

Bobbins September 17 2005 9:04 PM EDT

You Don't Like My Typing? Thats Harsh Oh Well I Guess I Can Type Non-Leet Lol But I Dont See A Point If I'm Getting Banned. Anyway I Transfered The 60k Back o yeah no more caps :s problems? Msg me and Complein durn it stupid habits...

CoolWater [Superheros] September 17 2005 9:05 PM EDT

Funny and interesting thread. Would be nice to see the ending.:)
Evo did really quit though. His last login was 17 August.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] September 17 2005 9:20 PM EDT

Last login at 9:08 PM EDT. For both Bobbins and Inferno at the time this was made....

Bobbins September 17 2005 9:25 PM EDT

Who last logged in at 9:08?

Special J September 17 2005 10:09 PM EDT

I said fine, inferno, or did you magically turn retarded?

{CB1ate}aupStar September 17 2005 11:54 PM EDT

oooh, I used to type with caps at the start of my words a long while My gf used to love it...=p I haven't figured it out yet but it may actually be a chick magnet...=p

Grim Reaper September 18 2005 4:39 AM EDT

if inferno and evolution are really different people then have them both online at the same time in different rooms, different people in those rooms ask them questions at same time and see if they respond quickly, if there is a pause or a bit of wait time then that means it is only one person who is moving from comp to comp.

Wasp [C and S Forgery Lmtd.] September 18 2005 6:20 AM EDT

This is like an old witch hunt. He burnt my crops. He stole my bread. He killed me cat. She poisoned my dog. Inferno's probably telling the truth. If theres no more transfer between the characters, then wheres the problem?

TrueDevil [AAA] September 18 2005 6:48 AM EDT

Tormentor : The problem is, Evolution already quit, it's almost impossible to get him back online. Last logged in 17 August.

Wasp : Where's the problem ? Evo joined in March, with the NUB he managed to get Death Spawn (his first character) to biggest 5 MPR or something, sold the character, messing around, selling this and that. Quit in August because his NUB has expired, suddenly someone from the same IP who claimed to be his cousin/friend in one house/ghost/other personality start at the same day with a fresh NUB.

AdminShade September 18 2005 7:31 AM EDT

This is hilarious, i will let a full admin check it out for sure.

i think Inferno should be fined, or fine himself, the items and money he got when he started, MAJOR unfair!!!

Inferno September 18 2005 8:08 AM EDT

No, 'TheEvolution' (not supposed to use real names) suggested this game to me in June I didn't feel like it because I was already playing a few RPGs. His parents said he'll be back tonight, so he should be able to explain this, and get rid of this mess.

AdminShade September 18 2005 8:19 AM EDT

so? the policy IS not to transfer anything while being on the same IP address.

and him quitting and you joining IS suspicious, not?

after all nobody starts with THAT kind of tattoo nor that amount of money, except you...

Xiaz on Hiatus September 18 2005 8:25 AM EDT

Same IP, and transfer to and from using two different accounts. It's not suspicious at all. Plain and simple.

Inferno September 18 2005 8:28 AM EDT

What's wrong with that he gave me some stuff to start with. Sorry about the IP part, I was new to the game he knows alot about PCs I don't, I didn't know that any of this crap would happen. Since I have nothing to lose ban me, even though I only have this account!

AdminShade September 18 2005 8:29 AM EDT

I never spoke about banning anything, merely a fine possibly but a full admin should check it out.

WHO are you 2 anyway? friends? did he play from your PC or you from his?
explain some more other than the basic info you have given so far.

Xiaz on Hiatus September 18 2005 8:44 AM EDT

Nothing wrong with helping a friend out, but the fact you're using the same PC kicks up the dust of suspicion.

So how did it happen, you were at the one comp, you made an account, then logged out, then he logged on and sent you a little gift? See, even it was completely in good nature, and you are completely innocent, you can see why the folks aren't completely convinced.

I remember once someone asked to be banned, funny enough, iirc, he was.

Inferno September 18 2005 8:49 AM EDT

We have the same internet same IP, I link to his Internet through 'My Network Places'. I didn't know we had same IP 'till now. He sent that stuff from his PC, but he helped me on my PC, meaning he helped me how to train, like that stuff.

PopSicle September 18 2005 10:42 AM EDT

If Inferno means that they both live in the same house, and share the same internet connection then ummm sure, unless he lives like half a block down the street, I can see no reasonable explination for having the same IP (even across the street would seem kinda silly too run an internet connection threw a firewall from one house to anouther)

From the rules that I have read is that is perfictly OK if they are a supporter, and they both supporters, so where's the problem?

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] September 18 2005 10:45 AM EDT

lol and the guy who is under suspicion of being Pwnagestick replies, you just couldn't write this stuff :P.

[T]Vestax September 18 2005 12:52 PM EDT

Supporters do not have special privileges to brake the rules that others have to follow. Plus two accounts with supportership is neither proof that they are played by two separate individuals nor is it okay for two supporters to make one way transfers under the same IP. Just stating the rules.

Maelstrom September 18 2005 1:03 PM EDT

Wow, this thread is quite the multi-magnet!

Any more confessions?

PopSicle September 18 2005 1:14 PM EDT

I read that somewhere, don't remember where though. Mabey it was in a dream.... or a compleatly different game.... either way.... :-P

Will [Retired] September 18 2005 1:25 PM EDT

Picture on Inferno's character, Eternal Flame:

Picture on TheEvolution's avatar:

same website, same band, same rubbish german industrial rock....
hmmm ;P

PopSicle September 18 2005 1:32 PM EDT

I just wanna say... Ya'll have way to much free time on your hands....

Will [Retired] September 18 2005 1:38 PM EDT

so true, but you're still here aren't you?

AdminShade September 18 2005 1:45 PM EDT

Pwnage alas doesn't see the hint of banned = banned...

! Love Barney September 18 2005 1:49 PM EDT

me thinks pwnagesicle is pwnagestickz

PopSicle September 18 2005 11:09 PM EDT

This is open to abuse since it's so easy to create new user accounts. Creating multiple user accounts is illegal, but rather than make that process more onerous for legitimate new users (such as by email verification, which in any case is trivial to spoof), we've chosen as the most foolproof method to additionally limit fighting on an IP address basis for non-Supporters. This means that if you're behind a firewall that makes multiple computers appear to share the same IP, your fights will conflict with others from behind your firewall.

I knew I read sumin about that somewhere... now that I re-read it, it didn't say anything near to what I said... meh

AdminShade September 19 2005 2:50 AM EDT

Creating multiple user accounts is illegal, so being banned and making a new account is making multiple user accounts. and thus illegal.

[T]Vestax September 19 2005 3:17 AM EDT

The supporter and non-supporter difference is only important if two accounts _legally_ being used behind the same IP are fighting at the same time. This does not grant you the right to _illegally_ be a multi just because you have supportership on one or both accounts.

Undertow September 19 2005 3:24 AM EDT

KMFDM is not German Industrial Rubbish, it's bad [non-pg] German Industrial.

And, comming from someone who shared a house with a friend of the same age both net geeks and both on the same IP: having a bands character pic be the same band means nothing.

If 2 guys living on under the same roof both find out together they like KMFDM, I could so see them going "Okay, I'll take this album art, you take another one. Use them on our characters so we don't look like posers. God this stuff rocks!"

In fact, had a very simliar thing happen to me with KMFDM. Megalomaniac <3
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