150 UC barrier SMASHED! (in General)


QBOddBird November 17 2006 9:00 PM EST

Unarmed Combat: 3,140,122/1,200,000 (164)


YEAH BABY

QBBarzooMonkey November 17 2006 9:01 PM EST

Woot!!! :D

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 17 2006 9:02 PM EST

eep

Miandrital November 17 2006 9:03 PM EST

Thats a lot of UC

QBRanger November 17 2006 9:04 PM EST

QBRanger [t] (Koyaanisqatsi) 66.176.207.145 BBQ [t] (Double-D UC) $1100000 -- Bet

As per our bet

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 17 2006 9:06 PM EST

How much NW did that take BM?

1.2 mil for a +164 PTH...hmmmm interesting

RoS UC 4T anyone?

The Death Company [...] November 17 2006 9:07 PM EST

w00t and wow ( and grats on winning the bet )

[P]Mitt November 17 2006 9:09 PM EST

WOWOW Congratulations!

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 17 2006 9:09 PM EST

I wonder what it's at now with the AoI on...

QBOddBird November 17 2006 9:13 PM EST

Unarmed Combat: 2,714,838/1,200,000 (153)

With the AoI.


and a HUGE ENORMOUS thanks to BarzooMonkey for loaning me his fantastic UC gear!!! He's the best! No, really!!

The Death Company [...] November 17 2006 9:15 PM EST

okay i know my dex is loads bigger but should i be able to hit a UC player with that high a UC with Anglachel [73x270] (+23)

Lust gashed Right'un with Anglachel [101652]
Lust draws strength from his weapon! [52458]
Lust carved into Right'un with Anglachel [112698]
Lust draws strength from his weapon! [56890]

I know bbq s team has lost some of its gear but to double tap with just dex? I would have thought his evasion would have nerfed a +23 weapon

QBBarzooMonkey November 17 2006 9:16 PM EST

novice, that's about 15 mil NW total for the UC boosting gear - the +15 Helm's are almost 10mil themselves...

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 17 2006 9:18 PM EST

that's so cheap...makes me want to chuck my VB...except for the XP, ToE's, and real tanks wearing real armor...how many left are there now...two?

QBOddBird November 17 2006 9:20 PM EST

TDC, wrong team. Attack Bridgeburners. That's my new UC team.

^_^

The count there is:

Anger stumbled swinging at Ben Adelphon Delat
Greed stumbled swinging at Ben Adelphon Delat
Envy mistimed his attack at Ben Adelphon Delat
Lust swung wildly at Ben Adelphon Delat

The Death Company [...] November 17 2006 9:26 PM EST

lol more beer please XD all hail UC again (and BBQ)

QBOddBird November 17 2006 9:33 PM EST

Ben Adelphon Delat bruised Prowler [122327]
Prowler's Guardian Angel smote Ben Adelphon Delat (60405)
Ben Adelphon Delat tapped Prowler [108676]
Prowler's Guardian Angel smote Ben Adelphon Delat (53706)
Ben Adelphon Delat tapped Prowler [113438]
Prowler's Guardian Angel smote Ben Adelphon Delat (56094)
Ben Adelphon Delat tapped Prowler [135184]
Prowler's Guardian Angel smote Ben Adelphon Delat (67340)

Quads are nice coming from a UC guy...stupid GA kills me

Kong Ming November 17 2006 9:36 PM EST

Maybe you should consider VA and wearing a RoS to double that up ;)

QBOddBird November 17 2006 9:40 PM EST

Gotta afford a RoS before I could equip one. These aren't even my gears I'm wearing. I've still got a long road ahead of me Networth-wise ~_^ but it'll be rewarding.

Kong Ming November 17 2006 9:44 PM EST

Just a question, are all the minions having the same amount of experience or is the UC minion much bigger than the other 2?

QBOddBird November 17 2006 9:50 PM EST

Two are large, the Wall (though you couldn't tell by his gears) is small. The two large ones are equally sized.

Kong Ming November 17 2006 9:51 PM EST

Pretty cool... I was wondering if I can setup something like that starting with all 3 minions. Hmmm...

AdminNightStrike November 18 2006 12:06 AM EST

My MM still hits :) :) :)

(although your AMF fires back at 0.41..... that's huge)

QBOddBird November 18 2006 12:23 AM EST

Yah, well, you just wait until I tag a MgS onto that team ~_^

Miandrital November 18 2006 12:28 AM EST

You didn't really win the bet you cheater (it was supposed to be on the NCB) :P

QBOddBird November 18 2006 12:34 AM EST

If you wanna get technical, I did win, because I said by the end of my NCB.

http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001uB5

And Ranger said he didn't care if I bought Sutekh's character, so long as I showed him 150 UC before the NCB period was up.

However, I did post a Bet Loss PR saying that I wasn't going to try to hit 150 UC anymore and sent both Ranger and deifeln payment as though I had lost already, so I'm not holding anyone to anything.

^_^

Tylan November 18 2006 12:40 AM EST

gratz bbq, lot of work you did there

AdminNightStrike November 18 2006 12:49 AM EST

"Yah, well, you just wait until I tag a MgS onto that team"

Actually, with whatever you have currently, we're stale mating now. I was pummeling you into next Tuesday just last night.

Silatt November 18 2006 1:05 AM EST

Left'un pounded Ruin [67121] Ruin's Guardian Angel smote Left'un (35476) Left'un pounded Ruin [91044] Ruin's Guardian Angel smote Left'un (42792) Left'un fractured Ruin [106070] Ruin's Guardian Angel smote Left'un (44637) Kano-san fractured Ruin [21877] Ruin's Guardian Angel smote Kano-san (3150) Kano-san fractured Ruin [21613] Ruin's Guardian Angel smote Kano-san (3112) 5 hits in one round oO

Silatt November 18 2006 1:07 AM EST

Left'un pounded Ruin [67121]
Ruin's Guardian Angel smote Left'un (35476)
Left'un pounded Ruin [91044]
Ruin's Guardian Angel smote Left'un (42792)
Left'un fractured Ruin [106070]
Ruin's Guardian Angel smote Left'un (44637)
Kano-san fractured Ruin [21877]
Ruin's Guardian Angel smote Kano-san (3150)
Kano-san fractured Ruin [21613]
Ruin's Guardian Angel smote Kano-san (3112)
5 hits in one round oO

Silatt November 18 2006 1:09 AM EST

last post and I'm done with this post (sorry for interfering) I apparently am an idiot

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 18 2006 3:56 AM EST

:D Bloody hell! Nice one! ;)

QBJohnnywas November 18 2006 4:15 AM EST

Lovely stuff!!!!

IndependenZ November 18 2006 6:09 AM EST

Oh my.. way to go BBQ! You odd bird, you did it!

Gandalf November 18 2006 6:41 AM EST

hey my good friend BBQ, nice work on the UC, congratz.

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] November 18 2006 7:00 AM EST

"Woot!"

AdminG Beee November 18 2006 7:07 AM EST

Karate OB gets his black belt.

.. November 18 2006 7:26 AM EST

yay you did it

[YG]Wildthing November 18 2006 7:09 PM EST

I knew you would get to that point. congrats

AdminShade November 19 2006 8:41 AM EST

But what is the conclusion: is UC worth it?

Seran [Hidden Agenda] November 19 2006 9:21 AM EST

*karate chops everything*

Oops, sorry, I think I overdid it with my "black belt" idiot style karate. :P

QBOddBird November 19 2006 10:33 AM EST

My conclusion is that UC is most certainly worth it.

With all Barzoo's gears equipped:

I have 900k total Defensive DX in melee rounds.

I have an Evasion equivalent to Sutekh's during melee and a 1.2M level Evasion during ranged, which makes it the highest (though inherent) Evasion.

I have a +164 weapon (again, with Barzoo's gears)

I hit close to 200k with 200k STR.

I can hit quads.


In conclusion: I'm basically training a weakened Evasion minion, but he gets a free weapon with it is how I look at it. Only a few tanks can touch me in melee, and NONE do in ranged. (exceptions like freed don't count!)

And though in order to get a UC this high I have to have a limited number of minions, this also gives me the availability to specialize elsewhere since tanks are already dealt with: Hence my 1.05M AMF/PL battery minion and my (soon to be MgS/heavy AC) wall.


Being able to counter BOTH tanks and mages efficiently is the whole point behind this team for me, and I can do that. So I'm happy.


And this is at 1.2M MPR....I can't wait to see how it does further on! At this point, I see no reason to pump UC further for a while unless I just feel like going for (200) or I want enough Evasion to completely dodge the opponent tanks, both ranged AND melee.

[P]Mitt November 19 2006 11:10 AM EST

mmm the new spid is in the making!

Brakke Bres [Ow man] November 19 2006 11:45 AM EST

a good GA kills of a quad hitting UC tank pretty fast.
Especially if your hitting a huge wall with enough HP, your in need of some DM.

QBJohnnywas November 19 2006 11:52 AM EST

Nah, it's not DM he needs, it's VA. That can sort out the GA problem if he's hitting quad strikes.

QBOddBird November 20 2006 9:15 AM EST

Good advice. VA....

I think I'm going to train a small (20) Prot, as well. That should help both with GA and other damages.

QBJohnnywas November 20 2006 9:21 AM EST

If you're going to train 20 on Protection you might as well take it higher - for about 400k Protection you get about (29). After about 500k it starts to get very expensive to take it any higher. An approx 5 million level Protection gets you about (36).....

QBOddBird November 20 2006 9:23 AM EST

Except 20 on Prot is like 50k stat points, which is about all I'd really wanna put on an ED. Right now my team is completely unreliant on EDs, as they are EXP that can be easily nullified, and I don't want to change that.

QBJohnnywas November 20 2006 9:27 AM EST

I see your point. I guess it depends on how many DM users there are around you at the moment really. I know there's a couple of big DMs up there, but I didn't really see much reduction from DM when I was running my last team (still number 3 protection in the game!!). I saw enough to leave me convinced that protection's level is the damage reduction percentage. So either keep it low to avoid your team being reduced too much, or get an extra 10% knocked off the damage you're taking....

AdminNightStrike November 20 2006 10:03 AM EST

"An approx 5 million level Protection gets you about (36)"

33.

Oh, and I painstakingly found each minimum Prot level from 4 to 27 and put them in the wiki. Please use it for finding optimal training levels :)

QBJohnnywas November 20 2006 10:07 AM EST

yeah, it was 33, I've just found the post SNK3R made!

My mistake!

AdminNightStrike November 20 2006 10:09 AM EST

Sut made it first :)

QBJohnnywas November 20 2006 10:11 AM EST

Yeah, I thought that, but I couldn't find it!

AdminNightStrike November 20 2006 3:21 PM EST

http://127.0.0.1:42080/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001uDT

That one is actually easy to find. It's the main free retraining thread in the September changelog.

Lumpy Koala November 22 2006 6:52 AM EST

130k damage per hit with that much of experience spent (as in 3.1mil level if include gear effect) :P I would say the return is really puny.

I bet a CoC with 1.2mil level can triple that easily, needless to say 3mil level of CoC.

Then you would also need to imagine 3.1 mil STR + 32mil Bone....

QBOddBird November 22 2006 9:02 AM EST

NK: I only had 164 UC for a short period of time. When I did I was hitting ~200k with around that much ST....which isn't great, but it isn't all so terrible when you are hitting quads.

All the battle damages here are copied over from when I had 153 UC and an AoI on.

If you meant the damage I hit now with my team, that's because my team is only at 128 UC, due to me being cheap and not being able to afford proper gears ;)

A 3M CoC might do a lot more damage, yes, but does it come pre-packaged with a 800k-1.2M Evasion?

Lumpy Koala November 22 2006 9:05 AM EST

hehe OK, anyway, I am selling "proper" gears that could boost you up a notch. Feel free to shop :)
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