T31: Super Carnage Brothers Melee (in Contests)
This tournament brought to you by King.
Things to know:
Read the Wiki on Tournaments!
You may not equip or train any item or spell that fires before melee rounds, Decay is allowed.
You must create your character the day the tournament starts. You may not start a new character during the tournament nor may you join late.
You must fight only other tournament characters after the second day of the tournament.
You must have a [T31] tag preceeding your tournament characters' name.
If you choose to make a tank, you may request one weapon from me, I have 15 Elven Long Swords, and 15 BoNE's to be distributed. Chatmail me to request one.
You may not train evasion.
You may not use any tattoos.
The Tournament will begin on the 17th at noon, and end on the 24th at noon
The win condition is highest win/loss ratio, wins and losses include all battles, not just battles challenged. Winners have their choice of any of the following prizes.
An Amulet of AC  (+16)
A Pair of Alatar's Gloves  (+7)
A Halidon Familiar lvl 1,455,629
An Elven Cloak  (+8)
A Trollskin Armor (+36)
A Mageseeker Bow [x350](+46)
If you want to reserve a weapon now please make a post :)
August 12 2008 9:47 PM EDT
BoNE for me.
On another note - the ELS/BoNE must "go down with the ship", you may not sell them at any point to either the store or the auctions.
Please reserve a BoNE for me as well.
August 12 2008 10:09 PM EDT
God loves me!
Please reserve a BoNE for me too :D
August 12 2008 10:25 PM EDT
Reserve a bone for me too!
August 12 2008 10:26 PM EDT
Ahem, I meant BoNE. Also, all enchants are allowed?
August 12 2008 10:30 PM EDT
Everything except FB, MM, tattoos, and Ranged weapons are allowed, I think. HoC?
August 12 2008 10:48 PM EDT
I'll reserve a BoNE.
August 12 2008 10:48 PM EDT
But the Super Smash Bros. had Helms of Clearsight...
August 12 2008 11:01 PM EDT
BoNE reservation please.
August 12 2008 11:15 PM EDT
BoNE for me as well please
August 12 2008 11:27 PM EDT
Scratch that, I'll go with an ELS, thanks :D
els for me as well. thanks slayer.
August 12 2008 11:53 PM EDT
BoNE reservation for me as well.
What is the ba cap for this tourney? Or is there one?
August 13 2008 12:25 AM EDT
I'll reserve an ELS please.
Looking forward to anthoer tourney. At the perfect timing.
August 13 2008 12:32 AM EDT
BoNE for me as well.
August 13 2008 4:06 AM EDT
bone for me 2 thanks
August 13 2008 8:10 AM EDT
Is there a minimum amount of battles you must fight?
i would like to reserve an ELS and is there a max amount of battles we can do?
August 13 2008 9:06 AM EDT
with your rules if a person wins 1 battle and loses none he wins the tourney...
since we can only fight other tourney characters after a specified time, it would be up to us to make sure that no one does that. if they have only fought one battle, they should be easy to beat.
i think this is why the rule is in place that you have to make your character on the first day and can't join late etc.
the above statement does assume that by "create your character on day one" that slayer also means training at least one minion at that point.
August 14 2008 1:51 PM EDT
12 BoNE, 4 ELS taken.
Just so you guys don't have to count it up.
August 14 2008 1:53 PM EDT
that means that there are
3 more BoNe's left and 11 ELS'
August 14 2008 4:08 PM EDT
I'd like to put a hold for a BoNE. But does that mean I HAVE to use it? Because only 1 of the 2 strategies I'm thinking of uses the BoNE.
August 14 2008 4:10 PM EDT
No, you'll just keep some other late comer from having one.
August 14 2008 6:28 PM EDT
August 14 2008 8:58 PM EDT
There is none, from what he told me in chat.
August 15 2008 9:03 AM EDT
I'll also select an ELS.
August 15 2008 9:10 AM EDT
Lucario! I choose you!
*throws Poke' Ball*
August 15 2008 1:22 PM EDT
ELS for me please, thanks.
August 15 2008 6:37 PM EDT
Bone if there are any left, if not I'll take an ELS
August 17 2008 3:05 PM EDT
Can we train unarmed combat?
UC is allowed, sending out weapons now
To clarify - the second day is over 48 hours after the tournament began, so Tuesday, at noon, you must begin fighting only other tournament characters.
August 17 2008 4:03 PM EDT
Crap, did I miss my weapon that I reserved?
anyone who reserved a weapon but had no character made when I sent them out, please CM me when you make a character
August 17 2008 5:30 PM EDT
Ghandalf is using a toe.
August 17 2008 6:07 PM EDT
I'd love to get an ELS please.
August 17 2008 7:13 PM EDT
Sorry guys , just i didnt see tournament rules on new character creation page :( (Ghandalf)
Just a HINT: beating on other low level opponents isn't going to help you or them... find opponents who give you a 100% bonus and fight them.
August 17 2008 10:13 PM EDT
Something came up, so I'll be too busy to play the tournament, so I'd like to unreserve my BoNE in case anyone else wants it.
August 18 2008 1:33 PM EDT
Monday August 18 1:27 PM EST
Wha - 79%
Nig - 66%
Roy - 76%
Ike - 43%
Tank - 67%
Okay - 62%
Titan - 76%
Foosa - 76%
Anubis - 77%
Failure - 68%
Zaekyr - 42%
Hatchet - 100%
Fistan - 80%
Letstal - 53%
Ness - 78%
Nafein - 79%
Asylum - 67%
Badfish - 51%
Good job T31's :) The above is your win% ( not rounded was rushed )
August 18 2008 2:53 PM EDT
I missed the start of the tourney :(
But I made a 'farm' character anyways just for fun. It will be retired at the end to not mess with any results.
August 18 2008 3:08 PM EDT
do draws and stalemates count as losses? or is it by win percentage?
i am not positive, but i assume it will use the stat obtained under recent battles>24 hour summary and then listed at the top.
August 18 2008 4:03 PM EDT
If I remember right, draws count as wins; stalemates count as losses.
I would like to see all people using spells and items not allow retired. The win/loss method for deciding the winner dictates that only chars obeying the rules should be able to attack other tourney chars. "Fun" is not an excuse for cheating.
August 19 2008 1:14 AM EDT
Very nice, I see you have been cheating the system by farming other players with your "fun" character to disrupt the tournament.
I thought this was beyond even you, Colts.
August 19 2008 1:50 AM EDT
Is it that he was fighting other characters? He does not seem to have messed with the win percents too much 7 fights on the most on one person.
August 19 2008 2:16 AM EDT
I've still recorded all fights with [T31] characters in which he participated for future reference.
Considering that's the method being used to decide the win, any tampering is really weak...
August 19 2008 9:45 PM EDT
I have dropped out ([T31] Failure). Good luck to all competitors!
perhaps in the tournies where we can only fight other tournament players, in the future we could add a prize that is given to a random participant that has not one any other prize but has an active character at the end.
many people tend to drop out of the tournies when they no longer feel they can compete and it makes it pretty slim pickings, especially when you are in the bottom. my suggestion might encourage people to just leave their character active rather than retiring it.
prizes could be half a million or something to that effect.
d'oh, i said one when i meant won. ha!
August 19 2008 11:23 PM EDT
"For all tournaments, if you reach at least 75% of the top players MPR, you will earn a participation prize of 100k."
That's already in place.
August 19 2008 11:24 PM EDT
However, your idea might be more effective.
August 19 2008 11:49 PM EDT
I wish I knew that....
Oh well, thats what i get for being a quitter.
August 20 2008 12:54 AM EDT
'Nothing wrong with being a quitter, you just have to choose what you're quitting.
Good to quit: cigarettes, drugs, superexcessive drinking
Bad to quit: Tourney #31...
August 20 2008 1:00 AM EDT
That depends on the drug OB! ;)
August 20 2008 7:35 AM EDT
Update of the active players winning percentages:
Current MPR cutoff for the secondary prize is 39,744.
Retired since noon on Tuesday and therefore are not listed: Letstalkaboutpie, Failure, Anubis, Tank, and Zaekyr.
August 20 2008 8:40 AM EDT
The strat changes there are so many! T-T Stop the madness!
August 20 2008 10:08 AM EDT
"That depends on the drug OB! ;)"
Yeah dude, quitting my albuterol would be a *VERY* bad idea... :P
August 21 2008 2:11 AM EDT
Things are looking good for JarL right now.
August 21 2008 5:19 PM EDT
2821 + (3000 - 2850) = 2971
2971 / (3117 + 150) = 2971 / 3267 = 90.9%
2014 + (3000 - 2040) = 2974
2974 / (3117 + 960) = 2974 / 4077 = 72.9%
2407 + (3000 - 2593) = 2814
2814 / (3291 + 407) = 76.09%
just a few numbers... do the rest yourselves :)
August 21 2008 5:21 PM EDT
Their percent could go higher if people attack them and lose.
August 21 2008 5:22 PM EDT
Those are my predicated top 3. Even with all of the people "threatening" to farm people out of the top 3 because they attacked them...
August 21 2008 5:23 PM EDT
just double tapping would be enough :) you do realise that right?
August 21 2008 5:24 PM EDT
Not exactly. They would have a limited amount of BA to double tap with and that assumes their double tap is even capable of killing the player.
and who do you think could double tap someone out of the top 3 Jarl, and has enough BA to do it. /me smiles.
August 21 2008 11:50 PM EDT
But you don't have enough. I tried to explain this to you earlier. Feel free to try though.
August 21 2008 11:59 PM EDT
1200 BA = 600 losses no? 2.8k + 600 = 3.4k
3.4k over 4.3k = 0.79069767441860465116279069767442
August 22 2008 12:00 AM EDT
He isn't trying to knock me off though. And he couldn't double tap me anyway. Not even sure that he could quad tap me honestly.
August 22 2008 12:00 AM EDT
I don't think we can be so confident in the results. I've noticed though I won't say them, hopefully no one will find out, that there are gaping holes in each of our strategies. Not tiny ones, gaping ones so I think its fairly likely that our luck will change.
August 22 2008 12:04 AM EDT
That is what retraining is for. If someone is farming you... retrain. I've probably retrained over 100x already this tournament. Luckily with my current strategy I only have to retrain one minion to counter someone.
August 22 2008 12:10 AM EDT
Um, there are things that can force a full retrains for all of us, well almost full, though it would require sufficient mpr and the person doing so would essentially be giving up hope of getting a prize.
August 22 2008 12:13 AM EDT
Like I said, I've probably retrained close to 100 times this tournament. The MPR effect is very minimal and hardly changes the outcome if you play it right.
you are saying that complete retrain = fail?
it's never that simple, you can't say you've seen all the possible options, or understand their effects for that matter
August 22 2008 9:47 AM EDT
The % is quite obviously their win % and the second number listed is the players total remaining BA (rounded).
Nafein - 91% - 140
Wha - 75% - 200
Fistandantilus - 67% - 600
Ness - 62% - 950
Blooder - 60% - 525
Okay - 60% - 150
Foosa - 58% - 160
Titan - 54% - 1125
Ike - 35% - 2100
Roy - 34% - 1280
Nig - 30% - 2680
Badfish - 29% - 2500
Asylum - 27% - 2150
While going from the "battle log" tab to the "24 battle hour summar
And the winners are:
Conquest at 91% wins
DoS at 74% wins
Ryuzaki at 70% wins
chatmail me your prize requests :)
grats to the winners and thanks for another fun tourney slayer!
August 24 2008 7:01 PM EDT
i second dudemus's comment. just wondering, do I still get 100k for getting 75% of the top character's MPR? :) that was my goal by the end of the tourney.
You do, that will be sent out a little later tonight
August 24 2008 9:07 PM EDT
congratz everyone :)
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