T31: Super Carnage Brothers Melee (in Contests)

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 12 2008 9:43 PM EDT

This tournament brought to you by King.

Things to know:
Read the Wiki on Tournaments!

The rules:

You may not equip or train any item or spell that fires before melee rounds, Decay is allowed.

You must create your character the day the tournament starts. You may not start a new character during the tournament nor may you join late.

You must fight only other tournament characters after the second day of the tournament.

You must have a [T31] tag preceeding your tournament characters' name.

If you choose to make a tank, you may request one weapon from me, I have 15 Elven Long Swords, and 15 BoNE's to be distributed. Chatmail me to request one.

You may not train evasion.

You may not use any tattoos.

The Tournament will begin on the 17th at noon, and end on the 24th at noon

The win condition is highest win/loss ratio, wins and losses include all battles, not just battles challenged. Winners have their choice of any of the following prizes.


2,000,000 CBD
An Amulet of AC [0] (+16)
A Pair of Alatar's Gloves [0] (+7)
A Halidon Familiar lvl 1,455,629
An Elven Cloak [4] (+8)
A Trollskin Armor (+36)
A Mageseeker Bow [x350](+46)

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 12 2008 9:46 PM EDT

If you want to reserve a weapon now please make a post :)

Warbringer August 12 2008 9:47 PM EDT

BoNE for me.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 12 2008 9:49 PM EDT

On another note - the ELS/BoNE must "go down with the ship", you may not sell them at any point to either the store or the auctions.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] August 12 2008 9:59 PM EDT

Please reserve a BoNE for me as well.

VivaPinata August 12 2008 10:09 PM EDT

God loves me!

Minion count?
Please reserve a BoNE for me too :D

NIG August 12 2008 10:25 PM EDT

Reserve a bone for me too!

NIG August 12 2008 10:26 PM EDT

Ahem, I meant BoNE. Also, all enchants are allowed?

VivaPinata August 12 2008 10:30 PM EDT

Everything except FB, MM, tattoos, and Ranged weapons are allowed, I think. HoC?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 12 2008 10:45 PM EDT

no HoC

BadFish August 12 2008 10:48 PM EDT

I'll reserve a BoNE.

VivaPinata August 12 2008 10:48 PM EDT

But the Super Smash Bros. had Helms of Clearsight...

Cube August 12 2008 11:01 PM EDT

BoNE reservation please.

Blooderfly August 12 2008 11:15 PM EDT

BoNE for me as well please

BadFish August 12 2008 11:27 PM EDT

Scratch that, I'll go with an ELS, thanks :D

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] August 12 2008 11:45 PM EDT

els for me as well. thanks slayer.

Ryuzaki August 12 2008 11:53 PM EDT

BoNE reservation for me as well.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] August 13 2008 12:01 AM EDT

What is the ba cap for this tourney? Or is there one?

INDColtsFan18 August 13 2008 12:25 AM EDT

I'll reserve an ELS please.

Looking forward to anthoer tourney. At the perfect timing.

Conquest August 13 2008 12:32 AM EDT

BoNE for me as well.

superior me August 13 2008 4:06 AM EDT

bone for me 2 thanks

Wizard'sFirstRule August 13 2008 5:27 AM EDT

BoNE for me. thanks.

Ancient Anubis August 13 2008 6:06 AM EDT

i'll take a bone please

NIG August 13 2008 8:10 AM EDT

Is there a minimum amount of battles you must fight?

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] August 13 2008 8:29 AM EDT

i would like to reserve an ELS and is there a max amount of battles we can do?

stevebat August 13 2008 9:06 AM EDT

with your rules if a person wins 1 battle and loses none he wins the tourney...

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] August 13 2008 9:11 AM EDT

since we can only fight other tourney characters after a specified time, it would be up to us to make sure that no one does that. if they have only fought one battle, they should be easy to beat.

i think this is why the rule is in place that you have to make your character on the first day and can't join late etc.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] August 13 2008 9:17 AM EDT

the above statement does assume that by "create your character on day one" that slayer also means training at least one minion at that point.

DoS August 13 2008 9:32 AM EDT


AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] August 14 2008 1:49 PM EDT


QBOddBird August 14 2008 1:51 PM EDT

12 BoNE, 4 ELS taken.

Just so you guys don't have to count it up.

SBW August 14 2008 1:53 PM EDT

that means that there are
3 more BoNe's left and 11 ELS'

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] August 14 2008 1:58 PM EDT

ELS for me please

3D August 14 2008 4:08 PM EDT

I'd like to put a hold for a BoNE. But does that mean I HAVE to use it? Because only 1 of the 2 strategies I'm thinking of uses the BoNE.

VivaPinata August 14 2008 4:10 PM EDT

No, you'll just keep some other late comer from having one.

VivaPinata August 14 2008 6:28 PM EDT

I think.

Wizard'sFirstRule August 14 2008 8:53 PM EDT

and the minion limit?

VivaPinata August 14 2008 8:58 PM EDT

There is none, from what he told me in chat.

forktoad August 15 2008 9:03 AM EDT

I'll also select an ELS.

TheHatchetman August 15 2008 9:10 AM EDT

Lucario! I choose you!

*throws Poke' Ball*

Shapoopie August 15 2008 1:22 PM EDT

ELS for me please, thanks.

winner winner August 15 2008 6:37 PM EDT

Bone if there are any left, if not I'll take an ELS

NIG August 17 2008 3:05 PM EDT

Can we train unarmed combat?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 17 2008 3:15 PM EDT

UC is allowed, sending out weapons now

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 17 2008 3:26 PM EDT

To clarify - the second day is over 48 hours after the tournament began, so Tuesday, at noon, you must begin fighting only other tournament characters.

BadFish August 17 2008 4:03 PM EDT

Crap, did I miss my weapon that I reserved?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 17 2008 4:43 PM EDT

anyone who reserved a weapon but had no character made when I sent them out, please CM me when you make a character

Conquest August 17 2008 5:30 PM EDT

Ghandalf is using a toe.

Zaekyr August 17 2008 6:07 PM EDT

I'd love to get an ELS please.

Battalghazi August 17 2008 7:13 PM EDT

Sorry guys , just i didnt see tournament rules on new character creation page :( (Ghandalf)

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] August 17 2008 10:12 PM EDT

Just a HINT: beating on other low level opponents isn't going to help you or them... find opponents who give you a 100% bonus and fight them.

Cube August 17 2008 10:13 PM EDT

Something came up, so I'll be too busy to play the tournament, so I'd like to unreserve my BoNE in case anyone else wants it.

Blooderfly August 18 2008 1:33 PM EDT

Monday August 18 1:27 PM EST

Wha - 79%
Nig - 66%
Roy - 76%
Ike - 43%
Tank - 67%
Okay - 62%
Titan - 76%
Foosa - 76%
Anubis - 77%
Failure - 68%
Zaekyr - 42%
Hatchet - 100%
Fistan - 80%
Letstal - 53%
Ness - 78%
Nafein - 79%
Asylum - 67%
Badfish - 51%

Good job T31's :) The above is your win% ( not rounded was rushed )

INDColtsFan18 August 18 2008 2:53 PM EDT

I missed the start of the tourney :(

But I made a 'farm' character anyways just for fun. It will be retired at the end to not mess with any results.

FuriousHobo August 18 2008 3:08 PM EDT

do draws and stalemates count as losses? or is it by win percentage?

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] August 18 2008 3:11 PM EDT

i am not positive, but i assume it will use the stat obtained under recent battles>24 hour summary and then listed at the top.

Cube August 18 2008 4:03 PM EDT

If I remember right, draws count as wins; stalemates count as losses.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] August 19 2008 1:10 AM EDT

I would like to see all people using spells and items not allow retired. The win/loss method for deciding the winner dictates that only chars obeying the rules should be able to attack other tourney chars. "Fun" is not an excuse for cheating.

QBOddBird August 19 2008 1:14 AM EDT

Very nice, I see you have been cheating the system by farming other players with your "fun" character to disrupt the tournament.

I thought this was beyond even you, Colts.

Cube August 19 2008 1:50 AM EDT

Is it that he was fighting other characters? He does not seem to have messed with the win percents too much 7 fights on the most on one person.

QBOddBird August 19 2008 2:16 AM EDT

I've still recorded all fights with [T31] characters in which he participated for future reference.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] August 19 2008 2:40 AM EDT

Considering that's the method being used to decide the win, any tampering is really weak...

3D August 19 2008 9:45 PM EDT

I have dropped out ([T31] Failure). Good luck to all competitors!

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] August 19 2008 11:20 PM EDT

perhaps in the tournies where we can only fight other tournament players, in the future we could add a prize that is given to a random participant that has not one any other prize but has an active character at the end.

many people tend to drop out of the tournies when they no longer feel they can compete and it makes it pretty slim pickings, especially when you are in the bottom. my suggestion might encourage people to just leave their character active rather than retiring it.

prizes could be half a million or something to that effect.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] August 19 2008 11:20 PM EDT

d'oh, i said one when i meant won. ha!

Cube August 19 2008 11:23 PM EDT

"For all tournaments, if you reach at least 75% of the top players MPR, you will earn a participation prize of 100k."

That's already in place.

Cube August 19 2008 11:24 PM EDT

However, your idea might be more effective.

3D August 19 2008 11:49 PM EDT

Oh crap.
I wish I knew that....
Oh well, thats what i get for being a quitter.

QBOddBird August 20 2008 12:54 AM EDT

'Nothing wrong with being a quitter, you just have to choose what you're quitting.

Good to quit: cigarettes, drugs, superexcessive drinking
Bad to quit: Tourney #31...

BadFish August 20 2008 1:00 AM EDT

That depends on the drug OB! ;)

Conquest August 20 2008 7:35 AM EDT

Update of the active players winning percentages:

Nafein: 88%
Blooder: 76%
Titan: 72%
Wha: 70%
Fistandantilus: 69%
Ness: 63%
Okay: 62%
Foosa: 61%
Roy: 46%
Asylum: 40%
Nig: 40%
Badfish: 38%
Ike: 37%
Hatchet: 0%

Current MPR cutoff for the secondary prize is 39,744.

Retired since noon on Tuesday and therefore are not listed: Letstalkaboutpie, Failure, Anubis, Tank, and Zaekyr.

Ryuzaki August 20 2008 8:40 AM EDT

The strat changes there are so many! T-T Stop the madness!

TheHatchetman August 20 2008 10:08 AM EDT

"That depends on the drug OB! ;)"

Yeah dude, quitting my albuterol would be a *VERY* bad idea... :P

QBOddBird August 21 2008 2:11 AM EDT

Things are looking good for JarL right now.

DoS August 21 2008 8:01 AM EDT

Nafein 89%
Wha 71%
Fist 65%
Blooder 65%
Ness 61%
Foosa 59%
Okay 58%
Ike 43%
Roy 39%
Asylum 31%

lostling August 21 2008 5:19 PM EDT

Max %

2821 + (3000 - 2850) = 2971
2971 / (3117 + 150) = 2971 / 3267 = 90.9%

2014 + (3000 - 2040) = 2974
2974 / (3117 + 960) = 2974 / 4077 = 72.9%

2407 + (3000 - 2593) = 2814
2814 / (3291 + 407) = 76.09%

just a few numbers... do the rest yourselves :)

winner winner August 21 2008 5:21 PM EDT

Their percent could go higher if people attack them and lose.

Conquest August 21 2008 5:22 PM EDT

Those are my predicated top 3. Even with all of the people "threatening" to farm people out of the top 3 because they attacked them...

lostling August 21 2008 5:23 PM EDT

just double tapping would be enough :) you do realise that right?

Conquest August 21 2008 5:24 PM EDT

Not exactly. They would have a limited amount of BA to double tap with and that assumes their double tap is even capable of killing the player.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] August 21 2008 11:44 PM EDT

and who do you think could double tap someone out of the top 3 Jarl, and has enough BA to do it. /me smiles.

Conquest August 21 2008 11:50 PM EDT

But you don't have enough. I tried to explain this to you earlier. Feel free to try though.

lostling August 21 2008 11:59 PM EDT

1200 BA = 600 losses no? 2.8k + 600 = 3.4k

3.4k over 4.3k = 0.79069767441860465116279069767442


Conquest August 22 2008 12:00 AM EDT

He isn't trying to knock me off though. And he couldn't double tap me anyway. Not even sure that he could quad tap me honestly.

Ryuzaki August 22 2008 12:00 AM EDT

I don't think we can be so confident in the results. I've noticed though I won't say them, hopefully no one will find out, that there are gaping holes in each of our strategies. Not tiny ones, gaping ones so I think its fairly likely that our luck will change.

Conquest August 22 2008 12:04 AM EDT

That is what retraining is for. If someone is farming you... retrain. I've probably retrained over 100x already this tournament. Luckily with my current strategy I only have to retrain one minion to counter someone.

Ryuzaki August 22 2008 12:10 AM EDT

Um, there are things that can force a full retrains for all of us, well almost full, though it would require sufficient mpr and the person doing so would essentially be giving up hope of getting a prize.

Conquest August 22 2008 12:13 AM EDT

Like I said, I've probably retrained close to 100 times this tournament. The MPR effect is very minimal and hardly changes the outcome if you play it right.

three4thsforsaken August 22 2008 12:22 AM EDT

you are saying that complete retrain = fail?

it's never that simple, you can't say you've seen all the possible options, or understand their effects for that matter

Conquest August 22 2008 9:47 AM EDT

The % is quite obviously their win % and the second number listed is the players total remaining BA (rounded).

Nafein - 91% - 140
Wha - 75% - 200
Fistandantilus - 67% - 600

Ness - 62% - 950
Blooder - 60% - 525
Okay - 60% - 150
Foosa - 58% - 160
Titan - 54% - 1125

Ike - 35% - 2100
Roy - 34% - 1280
Nig - 30% - 2680
Badfish - 29% - 2500
Asylum - 27% - 2150

While going from the "battle log" tab to the "24 battle hour summar

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 24 2008 12:18 PM EDT

And the winners are:

Conquest at 91% wins
DoS at 74% wins
Ryuzaki at 70% wins

chatmail me your prize requests :)

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] August 24 2008 12:20 PM EDT

grats to the winners and thanks for another fun tourney slayer!

FuriousHobo August 24 2008 7:01 PM EDT

i second dudemus's comment. just wondering, do I still get 100k for getting 75% of the top character's MPR? :) that was my goal by the end of the tourney.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 24 2008 7:28 PM EDT

You do, that will be sent out a little later tonight

Blooderfly August 24 2008 9:07 PM EDT

congratz everyone :)
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