4 Days Remaining.

Use the other thread for Q&A purposes, this thread will be used only for discussion and voting on actions. Every day I will consolidate discussion into one post to keep the thread readable.

Day 1 Discussion

QBOddFish April 25 12:22 PM EDT
I vote we take the middle or lower path, gives us days to spare for tiers and gets us there quickly...upper path takes 12/16 days to make it to safety, which means we couldn't go up tiers 'cuz we would have no days to spare.
Middle seems like a decent compromise, 9/16 days
And lower is 7/16 days, but I dunno if it's worth the extra 10% risk.

QBOddFish April 25 12:22 PM EDT
On that note, I'd also like to go up a few tiers so we aren't using tiny weapons and bows for the entire tournament. :P

dudemus April 25 12:23 PM EDT
can we search the area this time or do we have to move first? also can you search twice in one day since it is half day duration?

Admiralkiller April 25 12:23 PM EDT
Makes no difference to me

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 25 12:29 PM EDT
You cannot search more than once per day, you must be in a zone to search, first space does not count as a zone.

QBOddFish April 25 12:30 PM EDT
"Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 21 8:58 PM EDT
You can search and rest, no double stacking search/search and rest/rest. "

QBOddFish April 25 12:30 PM EDT
Guess that means for today we just need to pick a path. Middle or bottom is my vote, and of the two I'm inclined toward the middle.

Warlord GogetaSS4 April 25 12:31 PM EDT
lol we need more cheap weapons in the store....

Messbrutal April 25 12:33 PM EDT
[Elect Leader] My vote goes to oddfish.

dudemus April 25 12:39 PM EDT
lower path, we have one more chance to move to middle path with no lost time if we choose.

dudemus April 25 12:45 PM EDT
[elect leader]
oddfish as well!
for the first few days i was thinking: low path box 1, search & rest, low path box 2, search & rest, low path box 3. then comes decision time but hopefully we would have more tiers open. we might even choose to search & rest again on box 3.

Warlord GogetaSS4 April 25 12:45 PM EDT
Can we get some more Light Crossbows in the Store please?

Admiralkiller April 25 12:46 PM EDT
I too say the lower path...thou we have +10 chance to lose survivors when also have less chances. Can someone do the math?

QBOddFish April 25 12:50 PM EDT
Well, if we go to the lower path and then search/rest to tier 3 immediately, that nullifies the +10% to lose a survivor, adds chance to kill zombies, and lets us pretty much have our run of whatever equipment we want for our tanks.
And there's no chance of running into a boss while we're on a low tier if we do that, either.

Shinra April 25 12:50 PM EDT
with greater risk comes greater rewards, then i would say take bottom path and search. but if that's not how it goes then we should take it safe and go top 1 and yes, i'm down with oddfish as leader, and i'm down with more light crossbows :)

Admiralkiller April 25 12:55 PM EDT
Well i vote Oddfish i also Vote bottom path.

Draugluin April 25 12:57 PM EDT
My vote's for Oddfish.

QBOddFish April 25 12:58 PM EDT
*runs for president*
If you elect me as your leader...I promise, fair citizens of zombieville, that I will do my best to fight back the zombies, provide you with equipment to defend yourself, and keep this human nation a democratic one! We will not let the terrorist zombies threaten our families! We can make it to safety! Say it with me! Yes we can! Yes we can!

Marlfox April 25 12:58 PM EDT
I vote drudge.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 25 1:12 PM EDT
Bosses are now on TourneyPrizes, their positions are a secret.

QBOddFish April 25 1:21 PM EDT
Can the strategies on the bosses fluctuate, or is that what they'll be if/when we run into them? 0=)

QBOddFish April 25 1:22 PM EDT
Also: if we unlocked tier 4, does that include Decay?

Admiralkiller April 25 2:09 PM EDT
Well On the discussion about which path to take really it wont matter to me..The bottom path would be faster the top path would be easier..
Now when i play other games i usually start on med difficulty, then beat it on hard....if you guys think your not an expert at CB then go med or easy :-P I personally would choose hard :-P

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 25 2:27 PM EDT
Bosses are not fully set yet, I need to scrounge for more equipment :)
Tier 4 does include decay.

QBOddFish April 25 2:47 PM EDT
Well if we unlocked tiers, that would counteract the 10% chance to lose the survivor...so if we take 4 days for tiers and went the bottom path, that would be 11 days and null % chance to lose a survivor,
vs.
no tiers and 12 days with -10% chance to lose a survivor (easy road)
I don't see the bottom path as harder, I see it as simply better. Plus there's the +15% zombie killing power that comes with that, the ability to get better MPR with Decay, would make it easier to face bosses...it's the no-brainer (LOL) if you ask me.

Admiralkiller April 25 3:05 PM EDT
Yea if i were boss this would be my choice
1move
2search/rest..
repeat
All on the bottom path

ElCapitanSquishyPants April 25 3:08 PM EDT
I'm okay with either path although I'd like us to get our searching done asap. I vote for OB as leader, or atleast member of the council if we go that road.

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 25 3:25 PM EDT
I think we should have a council, I'm not sure who else because I haven't looked at all the participants, but if we have a council it doesn't cripple us if the leader becomes a zombie. It could happen, so why take the risk? three people talking and finding the correct "solution" is a lot better than a single person. (even someone like OB)...
So I vote council and I vote OB, Shade, and myself.

AdminShade April 25 3:37 PM EDT
The leader can't be a zombie right, so he can only be killed.
I vote for OB to be Leader.
I vote for OB, {Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr and myself for Council.

Admiralkiller April 25 3:42 PM EDT
I don't think OB can be council and leader.
But yea i vote shade and Jimaya for council and i also vote....Mess

dudemus April 25 3:42 PM EDT
can we have a leader and a council or only one at a time?

Admiralkiller April 25 3:44 PM EDT
**{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr**....sorry bad memory spelling

AdminShade April 25 3:47 PM EDT
Forgot to do this official, and making use of it to quickly change my vote (if possible :p)
[Elect Leader]
I vote for Oddbird
[Elect Council]
I vote for:
{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr
Shade
Messbrutal

Admiralkiller April 25 3:48 PM EDT
Mine is exactly as Shades is

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 25 3:52 PM EDT
I think the council is the best way to go simply because If the leader is killed off, it's going to become a mess... While the council can become infected, I'm sure being the men of honor we are, if that happens we will promptly take our own life. :)
[Elect Council]:
Jiraiya
Shade
OB

dudemus April 25 3:54 PM EDT
if the leader is killed off we just elect a new one, no?

AdminShade April 25 3:55 PM EDT
Should be possible yes, same for Council.

QBOddFish April 25 3:59 PM EDT
That's pretty much how it goes, dudemus.
If we're voting on council, I vote for
Shade
OB
dudemus
But if we're voting on leader, I vote for myself >.>

Candycane April 25 4:05 PM EDT
[Elect Council]:
Shade
Dudemus
Oddfish

Nemerizt April 25 4:07 PM EDT
I say that we should take a double move along the hard route for the first day. A single move already along hard already has a 25% of losing someone so we should just run for it. Then on the second day we should rest/search of course. This also gets out of that 5% penalty for double moving.
For leader/council I don't really care too much as long as they still listen to everyone.
(OB sounds fine)

dudemus April 25 4:08 PM EDT
i would suggest just having a leader while we have so many players. choose someone we trust and that will take input.
as we get down to a handful of players, then a council may be more useful so that if the leader and part of the council gets axed, we can still make quick decisions.
so my vote holds for just electing a leader and that being oddfish.

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 25 4:11 PM EDT
I don't really care either way, we can go the leader way and if he gets axed always elect a new council. I mis-read the first thread and thought the leader could become a zombie, which worried me, but no, he just gets killed off.
I'm just nervous because I think OB will get us all killed... he's got a fishy scent to him =).

dudemus April 25 4:12 PM EDT
i asked slayer about the council and leader thing, here is his reply!
From: Admin{CB1}Slayer333 (4:10 PM EDT)
just one at a time
i thought it might end up being that way, so ob for leader!

QBOddFish April 25 4:15 PM EDT
I like Nem's plan for running 2 spaces at the start.
We have to move a space to begin with, so we might as well grab the extra day on our first move before we start tiering up to prepare for zombie bosses and to improve our chances.

Candycane April 25 4:18 PM EDT
Hopefully there isn't a zombie boss on the first square.

QBOddFish April 25 4:19 PM EDT
Haha, that would suck, and Slare would be cruel for putting it there.

Admiralkiller April 25 4:20 PM EDT
Well I also think we should Elect a leader now....because they cant be affected and we want a strong leader then council is sort of useless
So at least w would have 1 thin positive to start with.
Vote OB!!!!!

dudemus April 25 4:21 PM EDT
the only reason i still liked the progression i had originally suggested is that we could potentially get tier 4 before we actually have to commit to a route. it would leave us more options available depending on the outcome of the tier upgrade attempts.

QBOddFish April 25 4:25 PM EDT
Yeah, I think that's still a good course of action. We can still stop and tier up on 2 next day, and then move on to 3 and decide whether we want to go Suburbs or Downtown.
Slayer, do we have to tier up on separate spots, or can we search/rest multiple times on the same slot?

Kefeck April 25 4:26 PM EDT
Just got on here.. I vote middle path and OB for leader.

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 25 4:35 PM EDT
I opt to search/rest the first day. Putting everyone on tier 2 and giving people the chance to grow their MPR for zombie bosses... Then we move 2x, then we take cover. This will kill the one zombie there is and put us on square 2/8 (hard route naturally). There we can rest/search/dash/take cover again. Which will kill off a zombie everytime we move, and get us up the tiers quickly.
I really think we should take the hard route.
Although Tier 2 would fine to proceed (gives us archery and bows), no one should have problems making a successful archer.
So then we just simply Take cover then dash. The Take cover will kill off a zombie, make our dash impervious to zombies.
The take cover / dash is a lot better than simply moving two spaces (even with the extra 15% to lose a player) simply because it also kills off an infected player as he becomes a zombie.

QBOddFish April 25 4:37 PM EDT
Note: we can't search/rest the first day, Slare says we can't do it on our 1st spot. We have to move one way or the other first.

QBOddFish April 25 4:40 PM EDT
Btw, I think the rest/search/dash/take cover method sounds like a REALLY effective plan.

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 25 4:41 PM EDT
That would change it a little bit with tiers, but I honestly don't think we really need to move past tier 2 anyways. I could be wrong depending on what slayer does for bosses, but that's my gut feeling.
I still think whatever we do, wherever we do it, dash/take cover is the best combination.

Candycane April 25 4:47 PM EDT
I agree with the dash/take cover. I think our decision had to be in by 4 PM though.

QBOddFish April 25 4:50 PM EDT
Just look at his bosses, Jiraiya, on Tourneyprizes.

Candycane April 25 4:54 PM EDT
I don't think they're supposed to be that hard..maybe they will be changed to become easier later.

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 25 5:00 PM EDT
I hope they are really that hard, (it would make it interesting) I hadn't looked before now so I stand corrected a little bit, yes lets tier up :D.

dudemus April 25 5:04 PM EDT
decay can only help! ; )

Warfish Tamerlane April 25 5:43 PM EDT
I'm with Nem:
Double-dash followed by search tomorrow. And I'm for OB for leader.

Warlord GogetaSS4 April 25 5:55 PM EDT
I vote for path Yellow 1.

QBRanger April 25 6:01 PM EDT
Unarmed Combat is a skill for all those interested.

Nayab April 25 6:46 PM EDT
sounds good
[Elect Leader]
I vote for Oddbird Hard path for the win!

Nayab April 25 7:15 PM EDT
how long till we can search area and get some skills?

rrowland April 25 11:35 PM EDT
Vote oddfish, bottom path.

Ta Ta Titan April 25 11:41 PM EDT
OB, red path.

Nemerizt April 25 11:45 PM EDT
I forgot to mention 1 more reason for double dashing on the first day. Someone will get infected no matter what each day. So each day extra we take that is someone else who is lost.

Ta Ta Titan 12:15 AM EDT
Uhh this is going to sound kindof stupid, but, it makes sense to me. Why not double dash every day. We can get there in three days, then a regular dash. Only 4 people would be infected, and two of those people wouldn't have turned. Then a 60% chance for 3 more infected and 10% for one more. Sounds like good odds to me.

dudemus 12:20 AM EDT
if we get there too fast we have no chance of defeating the bosses.

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr 12:21 AM EDT
Without the higher tiers we will not be able to beat the harder bosses.
I vote me take the red path until 3, then take the suberbs.

Nemerizt 12:22 AM EDT
we shouldn't dash every day. There is also the 5% extra penalty for the next day after dashing. Plus we need to be able to take out the bosses so searching and resting the second day would be best.

Ta Ta Titan 12:44 AM EDT
"I vote me take the red path until 3, then take the suberbs."
If we are going to do this, might as well take the suburbs to 4, same number of spaces.

Nayab 1:11 AM EDT
good point Titan

QBOddFish 11:11 AM EDT
OK, my official votes:
[Elect Leader]
OddFish
[Move in any direction, two spaces]
Spaces 1 and 2, Downtown Area.

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr 2:27 PM EDT
It's the same number sure, but If I was slayer, Suburb 3 would have a boss on it :)

AdminShade 5:43 PM EDT
Have we moved yet?

Day 1 Results

The survivors sat together, huddled by a small fire in the middle of a barricaded cabin. As they recalled the blood curdling screams of their friends and family, they spoke of what to do next, where to go, how to proceed. A former Marine, OddFish, took charge of the situation. The rest of the survivors listened in reverence to their de-facto Leader, as he suggested a route to the military base to the East of town. As the survivors decided they would head through the downtown area, (supplies would be abundant here) they heard a low moaning. One of the survivors from a nearby village had turned in the nighttime! Several of the others were infected before the survivors could react, and soon chaos broke out. As everyone ran from the cabin screaming, someone dropped a molotov cocktail, killing the zombies...and all those trapped inside the cabin. The remaining survivors (all of you) ran as far as they could, they ran day and night. When they finally arrived at [Red 2], they found one survivor missing. Warlord GogetaSS4 had not made it. The last person to see him recalled that he had stopped to go to the bathroom.

Day 2 Discussion

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 26 6:12 PM EDT
GOGETA!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! You will be missed...
I vote, in the light of losing such a valuable member (I think he knew karate), that we rest and search, it will give us time to mourn the loss. :(

dudemus April 26 6:17 PM EDT
search & rest sounds good to me as well!

Admiralkiller April 26 6:21 PM EDT
Yea i Agree search and rest.
Can we go back I think I dropped my wallet while I was running.
There is no money but I have my seniors discount card in it.

Messbrutal April 26 6:22 PM EDT
Search and rest.
AdminShade April 26 6:24 PM EDT
I vote to: [Search Area] and after that [Rest].

Candycane April 26 6:31 PM EDT
Search Area and rest. Hopefully we'll get tier 2.

Rawr April 26 6:32 PM EDT
i concur with the previous statements

Rawr April 26 6:35 PM EDT
wait, does this mean we're tier two now? since we're in red 2?

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 26 6:36 PM EDT
NONONO TIMEOUT!!! WAAAIIT !!! =)
I vote we Search/Search... Rest is pointless who cares about 5% ... really?
Lets get the upper tiers so we can grow faster... I'm sicksicksick of tier 1 lol...
so
[Search] [Search]

rrowland April 26 6:37 PM EDT
I agree with Searching twice if it's possible.

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 26 6:41 PM EDT
Searching twice is the best possible choice (after re-reading the rules I don't see anything stopping us from doing it).
To put it into perspective if we search and rest, and FAIL to move up a tier, that means we are stuck on tier one for at least another 2 days :|

rrowland April 26 6:41 PM EDT
"Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 25 12:29 PM EDT
You cannot search more than once per day, you must be in a zone to search, first space does not count as a zone. "
Nevermind.

Rawr April 26 6:43 PM EDT
nevermind about my question

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 26 6:46 PM EDT
Oh that sucks bad :( /facepalm
I really don't see how anyone is going to beat nightmares... So far I've only heard "yah decay works wonders"
The way I see it, he is going to one shot a minion every round of ranged.
(Nightmares)
Tank struck deep into Hes a FAUX zombie [314721]
So getting a minion with decay to even get a chance to fire seems slim. :| I'm stumped....
Zombie leader might be possible;
Zombie Leader skewered Hes a FAUX zombie [44562]
I dunno :|

dudemus April 26 6:52 PM EDT
did slayer ever answer the question whether we could search twice on the same square on two different days? in effect could we stay where we are now and search & rest multiple days?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 26 6:55 PM EDT
You may search twice on each space.

dudemus April 26 6:57 PM EDT
dagnabbit!

Kefeck April 26 6:57 PM EDT
Search and rest seems too be the popular choice. =).

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 26 6:58 PM EDT
:P I think slayer just changed his mind :)

Kefeck April 26 7:00 PM EDT
If slayer did change his mind than, search and search.

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 26 7:00 PM EDT
Search and rest is basically one action, Slayer is just too lazy to fix it :D
Well I really hope we move up a tier, It's becoming very frustrating for me, but for my vague idea to beat the zombie bosses I needed my xp split equally between two minions, two tanks SUCK so please please lucky lucky dice !!!!

Rawr April 26 7:01 PM EDT
no hes saying we can search, rest for one day, then do it again the next. I don't think he changed his mind

Kefeck April 26 7:03 PM EDT
ohh okay yah search and rest..
I was wondering what you were doing with two tanks jiraiya ^.^

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 26 7:10 PM EDT
:) Yeah I'm not stupid, I know two tanks is garbage, but I had late-game in mind, I just hope I/we can get to that point.
Slayer changed Nightmares a bit due to the unbeatable nature of the first version no less:
Undead Strength cast Giant Strength on all friendly Minions (4046556)
Tank skewered Hal [307168]
Although Nightmares has no dex, he will still one shot a minion every round. Due to the Archery/Elb combination he doesn't need a single dex to hit, so please don't think you can just pump dex and be fine.
Although I do not know the + of the elb, it might be possible to pump a large evasion but I highly doubt that will be enough. Possibly an evasion of like +50 combined with a large ec/dex advantage MAYBE... but that would depend on the + of the elb.
Still not sure if the new change is enough for anyone to beat. I'll have to think about it for awhile.

AdminShade April 26 7:15 PM EDT
I wonder: if we search now, it takes half a day...
Will we know the outcome of the search in that half day or in 1 day?
If we know if in half a day, I vote for search first and see then what to do...

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 26 7:19 PM EDT
I thought of that too, but it would make the times very screwy.
If a full day is 5pm - 5pm, then half a day would mean slayer would have to update at 5am :S

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 26 8:12 PM EDT
You get the half day update at the end of the full day.

Artemis April 26 9:41 PM EDT
I vote rest and search.

QBOddFish April 27 12:26 AM EDT
I like the idea of Search/Rest for today, then Take Cover tomorrow, then:
Dash 2 squares if you guys think you are ready for a potential boss
Go 1 square if we're less certain
Taking cover makes you impervious to any loss of players the next day, so if we take cover and then do a 2 square dash, it should negate that whole 60% chance to lose a survivor as well as the 10% chance that the downtown already has.
Plus *someone* was infected today, so on that day they should turn and taking cover would kill them off and help out the human side.
Thoughts? Comments? Strategic inputs?

Nemerizt April 27 1:50 AM EDT
Ok, just to help everyone out. Here are the numbers for what we have so far.
There are 19 survivors 1 of whom is infected. (most likely one of the lower mpr chars)
and 1 zombie

QBOddFish April 27 1:58 AM EDT
Ahhhhh, he got turned to zombie? I was just thinking he died...
Nemerizt April 27 2:05 AM EDT
Actually I am not sure about that. I figured he got turned, but it would be good to find out for sure.
Do the people who get lost from actions die or get turned into zombies? Also if they die do they still get counted as survivors at the end game?

QBOddFish April 27 2:07 AM EDT
Given the "Take Cover" ability to kill off zombies that are turning, it might be helpful to the zombie population that's trying to compete for Slayer to let them become zombies.
dudemus April 27 2:15 AM EDT
i would like to see us do two search and rests on this square for gear and spell purposes since slayer has allowed that now. we know we are safe here for now, spending some time growing, adding abilities & gear (including tats) can't really hurt us.
then we could move to square 3, tier up again if we choose to and still have the option to take a different path.

Nemerizt April 27 2:17 AM EDT
That would be a good option, but you have to remember that another person is going to get infected today and the day after another one will get infected as well as the one who is infected now will become a full blown zombie.

QBOddFish April 27 2:20 AM EDT
Yeah...if we do search/rest, that's 1 day for infected, search/rest again will be day 2...do they turn the following day, or that night? And if we take cover on the day they turn, does that promptly kill them, or do they get to make a move first?

Candycane April 27 5:54 AM EDT
Why don't we just double search? Having a 5% reduction for a loss of a survivor isn't that important. We'd probably need Tier 4 for the next boss anyways.

Nayab April 27 6:13 AM EDT
i agree with Candycane on this one. I WANT CHOICES!

Nemerizt April 27 6:27 AM EDT
That isn't a choice.

Nayab April 27 6:59 AM EDT
:P
don't be a meany Nemerizt
I just want to be able to do damage to people with armor!

AdminShade April 27 7:00 AM EDT
also it's not about a 5% difference but 60%.

AdminShade April 27 7:28 AM EDT
I still say we do a search / rest first and look what we can do afterwards.

dudemus April 27 8:19 AM EDT
so for you guys not wanting to tier up and build mpr, what is your plan for dealing with the bosses, especially if we get two along the way?

Nemerizt April 27 8:24 AM EDT
There is no doubt that today we need to do a search/rest. The real question lies in what we should do tomorrow.

dudemus April 27 8:29 AM EDT
i agree, so what is your long term plan? i might get behind it if i knew how you planned to deal with bosses.
i say we get to tier 4 before we have to commit to one of the paths (by square 3 red) then we have the option for all 3 paths still open to us and build mpr for boss fights (maybe not the bigger ones and hope that if we do hit one of them that it is only one and we can flee.)
without stating what your long term plan is, we may assume you do not have one. in other words, convince us why we need to do what you want rather than just telling us what you want.

QBOddFish April 27 9:32 AM EDT
SO:
For dudemus, the long-term plan would be
search/rest
search/rest
(take cover?)
move 1 space
search/rest
search/rest
we would then be on square 3, with 9 or 10 days remaining.
An alternative would be to dash 2 spaces instead of 1, but that sets us firmly on the downtown path and has a greater risk of running into a boss. We'd have 9 days remaining if we tier'd up and moved 1 space, so we're not really hurting for time (yet.)
Candycane and Nayab: By double search, I take it you mean search both days in a row?

Nemerizt April 27 9:36 AM EDT
if we take cover we should dash 2 spaces. There is absolutely no reason not to.

QBOddFish April 27 9:41 AM EDT
Well that'll be the decision we have to come to a conclusion on, what we do in 4 days' time.
We can either move one space to #3, which is only 1 space and therefore less likely to run into a boss, and leaves us the Suburbs option open.
or
We can move 2 spaces to #4, since we've taken cover there's no penalty to cause us to lose a survivor, so we move 2 spaces without risk and save a day in the process. That also means 1 less day for infections and zombie attacks.
I'll let you guys figure out which is the best course of action before then :)

AdminShade April 27 9:43 AM EDT
is it certain that we will face all 4 bosses?
If so, who needs to fight and win against them?
Do we all need to or just 1 player?

Kefeck April 27 9:43 AM EDT
I'd say go with the second option, seems more logical.

AdminShade April 27 9:44 AM EDT
Also, is there a possibility of us unlocking tier 4 immediately instead of 2?

Kefeck April 27 9:46 AM EDT
I"m thinking you have too advance in tier's, no jumping from 1 too 4.

QBOddFish April 27 9:56 AM EDT
Just to ensure I get this in before time's up later:
Official Choice:
[Search/Rest]
(I'm really hurting for tier 2!)

AdminShade April 27 10:18 AM EDT
From other thread:
[Search Area]
This action takes half a day, and gives a 75% chance that you will unlock a new tier of equipment for characters.
There is nothing written here about 'the next' tier, just a new one...

QBOddFish April 27 10:22 AM EDT
Yeah, it would be cool if we got lucky and unlocked tier 4 in one turn.
Just as much as it would suck if we failed to unlock one D;

Rawr April 27 10:22 AM EDT
Despite the lack of specific wording, I highly doubt we can skip to tier 4 in one search.

AdminShade April 27 10:27 AM EDT
After re reading the descriptions of the tiers, I highly doubt there not being an order in them. Indeed we have to unlock 2 first because they upgrade each otherﾅ

dudemus April 27 12:01 PM EDT
we also have this to discuss:
"Every day, one player will become infected. I will chatmail this player and inform them of their imminent doom. After two full days of being infected, the agent will take full control and the infected will become a full blown zombie. When you are informed that you are infected, you have two options available to you.
You can:
[Take your own life]
This option will maintain your classification as a survivor when prizes are handed out."
i think it would be nice to have an idea of who will be taking their own lives when given the option. anyone else agree with this?

AdminShade April 27 12:44 PM EDT
I could agree to it. But it could make the game more interesting by not saying anything. ;)

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 27 12:57 PM EDT
if we take cover we should dash 2 spaces. There is absolutely no reason not to.
--Nemerizt, 9:36 AM EDT
He is right, if we take cover there is no reason not to dash 2x.
C'mmmoooonnnn tier 2... Tier 1 is killing me.

dudemus April 27 1:28 PM EDT
if given the option i will be taking my own life. that qualifies you for the survivor prize of 4m. as a zombie you would have to kill 20 players to get the same amount and i don't think we even had 20.
that is if i understand everything correctly, which is always questionable!

AdminShade April 27 1:33 PM EDT
I'd then say try to get tier 2 and 3 as soon as possible.
THIS is our first boss. A mage with EC (see below) and a basic tank without ranged capabilities.
Basically we need a good DX and ST advantage to live...
Zombie Mage cast Ethereal Chains on all enemy Minions (11612)
Melee Hits / Blows / Avg Damage 0 / 0 / 0 38 / 50 / 641 (for 50 round battle against 100 ST / 100 DX minion of mine)

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 27 1:38 PM EDT
Shade, or higher tiers...
I really hope that boss isn't like right there, because I couldn't beat it :(

QBOddFish April 27 1:39 PM EDT
Which brings us back to the question...
"who needs to fight and win against [the bosses]?
Do we all need to or just 1 player?"
If just one of us, several of the upper MPR players should be prepared by the time we get to the first boss...

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 27 1:44 PM EDT
I believe slayer said that everyone has to fight the boss, and if you can't beat it, you die.
To: Admin{CB1}Slayer333 Sent: April 26 5:58 PM EDT Delivered: April 26 5:59 PM EDT
Just because I seem to be a little slow. So Gogeta is now a zombie? or is dead? If he's just dead, does that mean he is still in the pool for the survivor's prize? Was he victim of the 60% from dashing? Just trying to clarify the process. Thanks!
From: Admin{CB1}Slayer333 Sent: April 26 6:00 PM EDT Delivered: April 26 6:10 PM EDT
Gogeta is now dead as a result of the 60% from dashing, and is still in the pool for rewards.

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 27 1:48 PM EDT
[Fight the boss]
Everyone who defeats the boss character proceeds. Anyone who fails to defeat the boss is killed, with a 10% chance of becoming a zombie.
I've updated the rules, survivors who die from movement related chances to die have an 80% chance to turn into a zombie. --Admin{CB1}Slayer333, 7:09 AM EDT

dudemus April 27 1:51 PM EDT
so, it might be better to make a mad rush and try to sneak past the bosses? if we meet one boss the odds are in our favor, if we meet two or more then i am not so sure.

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 27 1:54 PM EDT
Meeting a boss preemptively could potentially mean gameover. Just keep that in mind.

QBOddFish April 27 1:55 PM EDT
Yeah, we hopefully can reach tier 3 before we fight a boss...several days of MPR growth and the extra weaponry would REALLY do a lot for our chances of survival.

dudemus April 27 1:58 PM EDT
i never meant to fight the boss! : )
i was referring to the "sneak by" option described below.
"[Fight the boss]
Everyone who defeats the boss character proceeds. Anyone who fails to defeat the boss is killed, with a 10% chance of becoming a zombie.
[Flee]
Run as fast as you can, as far as you can. Ten members of the survivors will be chosen to die at random. Advance one space past the boss.
[Sneak By]
There is a 20% chance you can sneak by the boss unharmed, with no casualties. However, if you should fail, each player will have a 15% chance to die. For every 100k MPR you have, this percentage is reduced by 2%."

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 27 2:00 PM EDT
Maybe sneaking by nightmares if we run into him. Unless of course we find a way to beat him :|
I would opt that we don't sneak by a boss unless it's very clear that people can't beat it.

dudemus April 27 2:00 PM EDT
the way the bosses are set up, we may end up fleeing or sneaking by regardless. if that is the case doing it with the most people increases our chances of surviving.
i am just looking at all of our options and trying to make sure we have a long term plan going, whatever that may end up being.
so are most thinking that we can grow enough and tier up enough to fight all of the bosses?

QBOddFish April 27 2:01 PM EDT
Yeah...which option we'll be able to choose will depend on when we find one. At the moment, sneaking by is our best bet...odds are we'd lose 3-4 players that way, 10 if we run by, and everyone would die if we fought one right now :P
Whereas in 2-3 days, if we've gotten 2 tiers and everyone's increased their MPR substantially, the majority of us might be able to defeat a boss, particularly if you figure in hiring minions. *shrug*
Either way, fleeing is a non-option IMO. 10 guaranteed dead is just way too many losses.

Kefeck April 27 2:01 PM EDT
I"m not really liking those odds dudemus.

QBOddFish April 27 2:03 PM EDT
If we faced a boss today (we won't, since we're not moving):
Fight: 100% chance of death
Flee: 50% chance of death
Sneak: 20% chance nobody dies, if fail, 15% chance of death
Sneaking is EASILY our best bet until we get some serious growth going.

dudemus April 27 2:08 PM EDT
ok, this was kind of my point then. if our long term plan is to beat some if not all of the bosses. then we should likely tier up twice on this square, move a square and tier up again. at that point we should likely move up to the middle or upper path. middle if we have lost too many or upper if our numbers are still strong. it would give us more mpr growth time while decreasing our odds of the bigger bosses...hopefully!
dashing, as some have proposed would really go against the growth strategy though.
alternatively, if we dash, we keep on the same path, run like hell and hope enough make it past sneaking by any boss encounters.
anything in between these two options would likely end in failure due to attrition in my opinion.

dudemus April 27 2:12 PM EDT
unless of course when we dash we are changing paths as well.

dudemus April 27 2:22 PM EDT
the rules have changed again! less money for dead survivors and an increase in the bounty for zombie kills. this may change some things. ; )

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 27 2:23 PM EDT
A few clarifications on things that were not totally clear, but were my original intent.
When you meet a boss, you have the option of doing any one of the listed actions, OR, you can rest on that spot and delay fighting/fleeing/sneaking.

dudemus April 27 2:23 PM EDT
search & rest or just rest?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 27 2:24 PM EDT
search and rest

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 27 2:27 PM EDT
Also, you may not encounter the bosses in their MPR order, they have set positions, and you will not fight all of them, unless you have some very poor decision making.

dudemus April 27 2:45 PM EDT
sneak by was also tweaked in the rules thread. greater chance of success coupled with a greater chance for death upon failure.

Candycane April 27 3:12 PM EDT
I don't understand why we don't just search twice in a day.

dudemus April 27 3:13 PM EDT
we cannot, asked before and slayer said no to that!

dudemus April 27 3:18 PM EDT
"Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 25 12:29 PM EDT
You cannot search more than once per day, you must be in a zone to search, first space does not count as a zone. "

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 27 5:25 PM EDT
*taps foot impatiently*
=) :P

Day 2 Results

The survivors took shelter in the local Wal-Mart, barricading the doors and gathering food. As the survivors rested for the next days journey, a gunshot rang out in the night. ElCapitanSquishyPants was found lying on the floor, with a gun in his hand. A note left in his pocket read, "Infected, bye."

The survivors took the body to the freezer, in the hopes that nearby zombies would not smell the body.

The survivors searched through the rest of the store, finding several weapons, and some armor. [Tier 2 Unlocked]

Tonight, the survivors rest in peace.

I think we will hit the biggest boss at the end anyway.

I vote for [Search] and then [Rest] (ant NOT the other way around)

Day 3 Discussion

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 27 5:40 PM EDT
WHOOP!

rrowland April 27 6:38 PM EDT
"You may search twice on each space."
"Also, you may not encounter the bosses in their MPR order, they have set positions, and you will not fight all of them, unless you have some very poor decision making."
I vote we search/rest again on this space, before we move and run into something we can't handle.

dudemus April 27 6:41 PM EDT
I vote to: [Search Area] and after that [Rest]. ; )

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 27 6:50 PM EDT
I also vote to [Rest] [Search]

Admiralkiller April 27 6:50 PM EDT
I agree that search/rest is a good idea

Rawr April 27 6:59 PM EDT
/mourn squishy

QBOddFish April 27 7:09 PM EDT
Yes, I think everyone pretty much agrees on that.
We're going to do the rest/search, then take cover, then the decision is:
We can either move one space to #3, which is only 1 space and therefore less likely to run into a boss, and leaves us the Suburbs option open.
or
We can move 2 spaces to #4, since we've taken cover there's no penalty to cause us to lose a survivor, so we move 2 spaces without risk and save a day in the process. That also means 1 less day for infections and zombie attacks. More likely to hit a boss, though.
That's pretty much the only thing that needs figuring.
We're down to 18 survivors, 1 of which is infected, and 14 days.

{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr April 27 7:38 PM EDT
Just to note:
[Set up an ambush]
You, and every other zombie, may collaborate and set up an ambush on a certain spot on the map. This spot must be at least 2 spaces away from the survivors current position. For each zombie in the ambush, the chance of killing a survivor increases by 10%. A survivor killed in this manner becomes a zombie. Each survivor present at the ambush gives a 5% chance that one zombie will be killed. This ability may only be used twice.
This was changed from 3 spots to 2.

rrowland April 27 7:46 PM EDT
I vote:
rest/search today
take cover tomorrow
move two spaces next day

dudemus April 27 8:04 PM EDT
is the option to move up the suburbs square 4 off the table if we move two spaces?
if it is off, why?

QBOddFish April 27 8:18 PM EDT
"if our long term plan is to beat some if not all of the bosses. then we should likely tier up twice on this square, move a square and tier up again. at that point we should likely move up to the middle or upper path. middle if we have lost too many or upper if our numbers are still strong. it would give us more mpr growth time while decreasing our odds of the bigger bosses...hopefully!
alternatively, if we dash, we keep on the same path, run like hell and hope enough make it past sneaking by any boss encounters.
anything in between these two options would likely end in failure due to attrition in my opinion. "
Left me with the impression that it was off the table

dudemus April 27 8:23 PM EDT
the first paragraph says that if we are going for growth we should move to a different path rather than the one we are on.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 27 10:11 PM EDT
You can always move backwards if you are so inclined.

Warfish Tamerlane 12:22 AM EDT
Search/Rest
Yeah, I was also thinking we could dash and do Red3→Yellow4, rather than 2 spaces along the red line. We don't HAVE to dash, though. Here's how I see it:
If taking cover significantly reduces our chance of losing a survivor during a dash (I'll have to check the rules again, but the discussion thus far seems to indicate that that's the case), I don't see why we shouldn't dash on the day after taking cover. Conversely, I don't see why we should bother wasting a day taking cover if we don't need it to curb our chances of losing an individual. I mean, is a 10% chance of losing one survivor at this point a worse proposition than another day stuck on a space while more become infected?
I hope that makes sense.
Depending on how hard we want to Tier up, we could search for today's action (or tomorrow's? Or what? I'm not sure what day it is), and then move one space and search again. Hopefully the second try on this space and the two tries on the next will be enough to get to Tier 4. Otherwise, we could take cover and then dash, and maybe try to search some more on one of the yellow or blue spaces.

Admiralkiller 12:25 AM EDT
My personal opinion is the faster we make it to the end the less people that die and the sooner the winners get their money.

Rawr 12:35 AM EDT
but dashing through everything will most likely end up with more net-deaths

QBOddFish 12:46 AM EDT
That's kind of how I was thinking of it, AK.
The only thing that makes me consider the suburbs at all is the potential that an easier boss is up there, rather than one of those crazy huge bosses that Slayer's got on TP.
If we could tier up on 2, then tier up 2x on yellow 4, then we could take cover/dash to eliminate the potential to lose survivors to movement penalties and finish with 4 days extra remaining (the lack of bonus allows us to make our last 1 space move without taking cover first.)
Or we could go the Downtown Area - since boss placement is pure speculation on our part - and after we tier up to 4 then we could take cover/dash and finish with 5 days extra remaining.
When I look at it from that viewpoint, the pros and cons are:
Red Path: We finish 2 days earlier, which means 2 less infected/dying, and have that much extra leeway to continue searching if we fail a tier search.
Yellow Path: We still finish with 4 days remaining, so we have some leeway to search if we fail a tier. We also don't have the penalty to counteract with our bonus, so that's a -10% to lose survivors. It also seems less likely that Slayer would put the huge boss on the neutral path to me.
Thoughts?

rrowland 1:01 AM EDT
I'm willing to bet we will hit one of the heavy bosses if we continue downtown. I would vote that we head up to the suburbs. Whatever we do, I'd avoid the last space of any of the three paths. Then again, he might expect us to want to skip the last space and put it on the second-to-last instead.

QBOddFish 1:08 AM EDT
Yeah, skipping the last one sounds like a good plan.

AdminShade 1:10 AM EDT
I think we will hit the biggest boss at the end anyway.
I vote for [Search] and then [Rest] (ant NOT the other way around)

Admiralkiller 1:12 AM EDT
Your logic is logical.
But yea i really agree with what your saying.
By taking cover it makes us impervious the next day.
So why not dash 2 spaces?
The extra 10% in the middle is worth the 1 day detour especially if there is a big bad Meany on the bottom path.
1.Dash.
2.Rest/search (tier up)<---Hopefully
3.Rest/search (tier up)<---Hopefully
4.Take cover (This also kills a Zombie if there is one)
5.Repeat

QBOddFish 1:14 AM EDT
We can still search/rest on this spot one more time.
So then we would take cover, dash to yellow 4, search/rest, search/rest, take cover, dash to 6, walk to 7, take cover, dash to 9.
This assuming we get lucky and tier up all 3 times.
So, agreed?

AdminShade 1:16 AM EDT
lets take 1 day's worth of actions after another, not try to plan ahead too much ;)

Admiralkiller 1:17 AM EDT
I agree...Things could change but this seems like a good solid plan

QBOddFish 1:18 AM EDT
*grin* I plan ahead.
But yeah, moves can change depending on the situation, that's just what I'd like to theoretically see happen.

AdminShade 1:22 AM EDT
I'll be back this afternoon (morning here now) and will be in T38 room again to try and discuss things and options :)

QBOddFish 1:31 AM EDT
Awesome :) we've been up to that this afternoon, trying to figure out the best possible plans for the future of the human race o_o

dudemus 1:47 AM EDT
that sounds like what i was thinking as well. this is exactly what i was looking for, some long range plans that we can tweak along the way. i also think that it is a good compromise regarding growth to attrition ratio.

QBOddFish 1:51 AM EDT
Actually, Nem and I were discussing in Chat...there's a 25% chance to lose a survivor with the dash.
If we take cover/dash up to 4, then we can walk along medium 1 space at a time without a movement death chance penalty anyway, and with tier 4 we have a -10% to lose a survivor.
That means less zombies killed, but less chance of survivors dying as well - and really, we want to get the most survivors across the finish line possible.
So we might be a lot better off to go search/rest, cover, dash, then search/rest, search/rest, 1move 1move 1move 1move 1move.
That leaves us with 4 days free still, and lessens the chances of losing survivors.

Admiralkiller 10:27 AM EDT
We only have a 25% to lose a survivor if we kill a zombie.
Otherwise "This action takes a day, and makes you impervious to any loss of players the next day." SO we are impervious we still should dash...and its good because we kill 1 zombie And have no chance for one of us to die while we dash.
This is just my translation to the rules but i think i am right about it.

Nemerizt 10:31 AM EDT
yes, the plan we have right now is to search/rest today, then take cover tomorrow. Dash to suburbs 4 then search/rest twice then move normally the rest of the way. This will maximize keeping survivors alive and we will eliminate 1 zombie in the process.

Kefeck 10:42 AM EDT
i vote search and rest for today.

Admiralkiller 10:49 AM EDT
Okay if i am reading the rule right(taking cover) the act of killing a zombie has 25% for a survivor to die not the act of taking cover...so if i am right taking cover/dashing takes 2 days and has 0% chance to lose a human where moving single move/single move has two 10% chances to lose a human. Plus we save a day.....*I may be wrong and not trying to argue i am just trying to add my best input for the benefit of everyone* :-)

dudemus 11:12 AM EDT
i read that as the act of taking cover has the 25%, message slayer for clarification ak and let us know!

Nemerizt 11:15 AM EDT
slayer changed it. I just reread it myself. Now it is if a zombie is killed there is a 25% chance of losing a survivor. What I want to know is when it says a player zombie that just means one being turned into a zombie that day. Not ones that have already been around?

AdminShade 11:33 AM EDT
it's any zombie, whether the first one being turned or the one lastly turned. Slayer then has to roll the dice again to decide which of the zombies dies if there are more than 1.

QBOddFish 12:29 PM EDT
Either way, for today, we're going to
[Search/Rest]
as our official move. :)

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 1:43 PM EDT
I have not changed Take Cover since the tournament began.
Taking cover will only kill a zombie if a player turns into a zombie on that same day.
The 25% chance of losing a player is there regardless of whether or not a zombie is killed.

Nemerizt 1:52 PM EDT
thanks for the clarification. Thats how I origionally thought it was.

QBOddFish 1:53 PM EDT
OK guys, so here is what I'm thinking for tomorrow:
We have the option of taking cover, then dashing. This gives us a 25% chance of killing a player and takes 2 days, during which 2 players will be infected.
or
I could sacrifice the bottom 2 - who wouldn't survive a boss fight anyway and have the greatest odds of being infected - and we move up to #4 in one day without any movement related chances of player death.
It seems most fair, IMO, to the majority of the players to sacrifice the bottom 2. One less player infection, chances being that those two are infected already, and no movement related chance of a harder-working player going out.
So that's my plan thus far, unless someone can convince me otherwise. For those of you in the bottom 2 - if you don't want to be eliminated, pick it up and pass someone! ;)

Nemerizt 1:57 PM EDT
I believe we have to have a zombie first for that to be able to happen. I'm not so sure one will be forthcoming on our time frame though if one does they will get 800k right off the bat.

QBOddFish 2:12 PM EDT
That's true...at the moment we have a few infected so it's a possibility. Guess I shouldn't bank on there being a zombie, eh?

rrowland 5:07 PM EDT
You said [Search]/[Rest].
Survey says...

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 5:33 PM EDT
It'll be a little later today, I'm stuck at the doctors office.

Day 3 Results

The survivors decided to stay at the local Wal-Mart, realizing there was simply too much food that could not be carried, and that there may have been more supplies in the area. After searching through the storage room in the back, the survivors found a box of shotguns, and several dead police officers, each wearing body armor. [Tier 3 Unlocked]

As the group moved back into the main room, Nayab walked in front of the group. He revealed to them that he had been bitten the other day by a crazed Janitor who had been infected. While he had managed to lock the janitor into the bathroom, he had been infected himself. He said his goodbyes, and went to the roof. It had always been his dream to fly, so he struck his best superman pose, and for a few seconds as he closed his eyes, he was flying.

After losing yet another survivor, the remaining survivors have grown eager to leave this horrid house of death. Supplies are running low, and the stench of death is sure to attract zombies to the area. Late in the night, as the survivors rest, a voice is heard screaming. He yells to any who will listen,
"ALL IS LOST! THE BASE IS ..aaAAaaAAHhhhhH"
As the survivors peek through the windows, this lone madman is torn to pieces by zombies.

Wacky exp times effect Tournaments?

no

Ah, must be imagining things then. What is the meaning of the madman?

I dunno. Something about a base.

I'd probably think harder about it if it was a SANE man, but well, he's a madman. I can't take him seriously.

Besides, he got eaten by zombies. Foo!

aren't we headed to a military base?

Yeah, but AFAIK, there's nothing we can do about it even if something's up at the base. We're a bit limited in our possible actions ;)

Maybe we'll have to take over a nuclear silo along the way and clear out the base :).

I smell some sort of surprise or maybe a twist ending.
Ya i know... I can smell whats on a map in imagination land weird huh?

Left for dead is an amazing zombie game, reminds me allot of this tourney =)..

So whats the plan for today?

i just realized i spent a bunch of my xp into EDs which we can't use yet. so I unlearned hella. :(

gonna wait it out for tier 4...

Slayer apparently decided Nightmares wasn't tough enough, so he has changed the strat to make him harder to beat. T-T

You also cannot use a tattoo until Tier 4, Rawr...

Naw, that's inaccurate. Tattoos were lumped in with "all armor" which is tier 3.

"
Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 26 11:31 AM EDT
Tats are a tier 4 armor. "

Read moar.

No, OB.

I just CMed Slayer, asking if "All armors" include tattoos, and he responded "yes".

Damn, bunch of you guys are using them. Didn't you notice the guys up top, who had money to outbid you, not using them?

Which is hilarious, because about 5 minutes ago,

<{CB1}Slayer333> well, its 1:30 in the AM, I'm going to sleep...have fun ;)

Slayer is a liar!! You can't trust anything he says!! xD

I was told tier 4 and it says it in 1st post

Usually there is a link saying "all rules here are in effect:" But I don't see it. Does this mean we are allowed tattoos? Also, do we have to run single minion characters?

--{Jiraiya}-Fame.Vr, April 25 5:14 PM EDT


Tats are counted as armor.

You may purchase items from another tier, but cannot use them until you've unlocked the tier.

--Admin{CB1}Slayer333, April 25 5:51 PM EDT


Tier 3: "All armor"

I did check. Got an answer, and equipped. Dunno where the confusion came in :S

Rawr, he POSTED in his thread that they are considered tier 4. Unless he comes in and posts again that he's changing the rules, they're tier 4...

sry i'm going to double post this

To: Admin{CB1}Slayer333 Sent: 1:17 AM EDT Delivered: 1:19 AM EDT
does "all armors" include tattoos?

From: Admin{CB1}Slayer333 Sent: 1:19 AM EDT Delivered: 1:19 AM EDT
yes

http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002jDv

Look at his April 26 11:31 post where Shade asked in the official contest thread when we could use armor and he responded that they were Tier 4.

Yea it says tier 4 in 1st post near the bottom. That was his last ruling about tats

Well, look at the cms I JUST posted. He changed it again, I suppose.

I'm not using mine until then :)

Well unless Slayer posts in this thread that they're allowed at Tier 3, I'm not buying it until he posts and clarifies, because that's completely inconsistent with what he's said earlier.

I'm not getting DQ'd because I failed to read the rules and asked a question in an ambiguous manner that had already previously been answered, myself.

Besides, quoted CMs are editable.

Guess he changed his mind and forgot to change it *Shrug*
Regardless to the contrary, Slayer has said in direct response to being questioned about tats that they are considered armor, and tier 3 very clearly says that all armor is opened.

So why are we arguing about this? Lets decide our next move. I say we dash downtown.

I don't consider your Chatmails as a change to the official rules. I think when you asked, he was answering that of course tattoos are armor, not "yes since they are armor I'm reversing my earlier statement."

I plan on taking cover before dashing, as that gives a 25% chance to lose a survivor when we do it and eliminates the 10% hard + 60% dash chances to lose a survivor.

25% chance to die = better than 60% chance to die.

Well I'm done.

Oh I'm retarded, I thought we already took cover LOL!!!

So yes...

[TAKE COVER]

Anyways if you go back to the thread, I copy pasted the portion of it above, you can easily find it.

Jiraiya, would you kindly click the link I posted and look for the post I have provided the timestamp to twice now?



Shade specifically asked, since tattoos are a form of armor, when we could use them. Slayer answered that it was at tier 4.


I'm pretty sure he was just answering that again, yes, tattoos are a form of armor; he probably assumed that you guys had read that part of the thread.

:S Confusion for the loss :|

Indeed....still, I've CM'd him asking him to please clarify because it appears inconsistent. At very least, it should be edited into the original post.

lol "Would you kindly" is the trigger word in Bioshock to make him obey any command lol.

Tats are counted under all armor, I must have been mistaken in the original thread.

On that note, I'll no longer be answering questions sent to me via CM, all of them should be posted.

Action for today:

[Take Cover]

It's a little bit sad that no one is planning on beating the top bosses besides me.

I'd as much as you would want to fight them. It's just that we need to stand a fair chance ;)





Anyway, perhaps for a bit more realistic target at first. Our first boss fight:

A mage with 20 HP and EC effect of 11.612 and
A melee tank with 8,528 HP DX and ST doing around 600 damage to a 50 AC minion
Basically we need a good DX and ST advantage to live...
Zombie Mage cast Ethereal Chains on all enemy Minions (11612)
Melee Hits / Blows / Avg Damage 0 / 0 / 0 38 / 50 / 641 (for 50 round battle against 100 ST / 100 DX minion of mine)



Strategy talks:
The mage we can kill quite easily. 20 HP is very easy to kill.
The tank however, has both a ST as well as DX advantage on us.
For us to have the same ST and DX as it, we need about 20k DX and ST trained. (the st basically is to do damage.



We also need to do about 10k of damage in 50 rounds, without taking too much damage to die from. For me that's 20k atm.

So for me, I'd need to do 200 damage every round, while only taking 400 or less. Well that's not going to cut it.

While taking 600 damage a round, I'd need to kill it in less than 33 rounds. Try to take in a bit of randomness, within 25 rounds. That would require me to deal 400 damage a round, continuously.

More thoughts to be derived soon...

Oh yes!


Our strenghts: we have Ranged capabilities. We should be able to kill the enchanter zombie in 1 round, leaving a maximum of 4 rounds to deal some damage to the melee zombie before it can hit us.

Improving the odds:
meat shields. Put something in front of your damage dealers whether it be a useless minion or a familiar.
Additional HP (or AS when we'd reach tier 4 before encountering)
EC (when we'd have tier 4)
more AC (can do this reasonably easy but better perhaps to spend on weaponry
more + to hit, on both ranged and melee weapons to have a better chance to hit :)

Bloodlust is your friend.

Personally, I hadn't begun discussing means of beating the bosses yet because we have not yet reached them; I do not know which or how many we will face.

It shouldn't be too difficult to beat that EC/tank team combo. Like you said, the enchanter can be taken out in ranged; and if you sacrifice HP and STR for DX, keeping only the minimum amount needed to beat him within 50 rounds, you can dodge blows and kill him no problem. It may take a few tries if you have to sacrifice a lot of HP, but eventually the odds will swing your way on the CTH plane and you'll beat him.

It may take a few tries


Do we have a few tries?

I assumed we have all day to kill him, and that we didn't need to kill him first try. Am I wrong?

Far as I know we can keep trying all we want, there's just no double-tapping...but we'll just have to wait and see what Slare says about it.

Ahh, if we don't have to kill the character at the first try, then it's not so hard.

And all the bosses will become more easy then, figure Nightmares. Kill the first minion in the first fight, and then it's just taking a small EC to put the tank to it's knees ;)

Slayer: do we have to kill our Boss opponent in the 1st try or can we try multiple times?

Also if we have to kill the boss in 1 fight, are we allowed to run test fights and tweak?

Pretty sure a small EC won't defeat Nightmares.

That's a 4.2M cast EC, 3M+ DX, and a +75 ELB with 1.0 Archery.

Alternatively, we could attack it with a different character and kill the enchanter. Then use EC + Evasion and our tanks to pummel it to death trying to avoid the arrows ;)

Slayer said that wasn't allowed, as per

"If you do something to affect the outcome of a tournament with a non-tournament character, or with non-tournament money, you may be disqualified."

No tank is going to beat that team, Shade. And 75 Evasion is a lot more EXP than we're going to have for a while...not to mention that tank is going to have the DX advantage.

Only chance to beat it is to retrain to mage when we hit tier 4.

I originally intended for it to be one chance at fighting the boss, but I'll allow up to 10 fights. The counter starts when the boss is encountered.

True, we've been wondering about it in chat for a while now. Get your behind in chat ;p

Of those 10 fights, can we attack more than once in succession? (Before heal)

You cannot double tap the boss.

Day 4 Results

In the morning, the survivors woke to a dull moan. The madman had drawn forth a massive horde of zombies, who even now feasted upon his rotting remains. The survivors had only one option, take cover and fight off wave after wave of fetid zombie corpses. Hour upon hour brought thousands upon thousands of zombies, all hungry for the fresh blood of a particularly Odd Bird.

The fighting was long, monotonous, and gory. Soon, the survivors ammo began to dwindle. Shinra found himself with only one shot left in his pistol, and began to sweat. He glanced at the bandage wrapped around his leg, knowing full well that in another day he would become one of the damned undead himself. Shinra walked towards OddBird, weapon in hand, his entire body nervously twitching. As he came up behind OddBird, he hesitated, but soon dropped the gun, and ran out into the horde of zombies, hoping to distract them from the Wal-Mart. As he was torn limb from limb, the other survivors looked on in horror, taking their only solace from the fact that Shinra had killed himself, rather than turn into a zombie. However, the sight was simply too much for Rawr to bear. He took his shotgun, placed the barrel in his mouth, and fired.

The survivors stood in amazement, stunned at the blood bath they had just witnessed. The zombies pressed ever forward, and soon Messbrutal was surrounded before realizing his plight. Dudemus, in a fit of bravery, charged into the horde! He dragged a heavily bleeding Messbrutal to the safety of the second floor, where the other survivors were now holding out, only to find that it was too late. Messbrutal was now a zombie. As soon as Shade realized this, he ran up and drop-kicked the zombie Messbrutal through the window, back down to the first floor.

As the survivors lay out of breath, but safe for the moment, they stared at their leader, and asked,

"Now what?"

Wow... so far we lost 6 of our survivors, of which 5 are dead (Gogeta / Squishy / Nayab / Shinra / Rawr.

The one problem now is Messbrutal, Zombie Messbrutal.

Brains...

haha, what an appropriate userpic

even tho im not playing, i love reading the story overviews...good stuff, ill get in on the next one

We only need to worry about the last two bosses.

OMGIMAZOMBIERUNPLZ defeated Horde after 2 rounds of combat
Physical

OMGIMAZOMBIERUNPLZ defeated Living Dead after 9 rounds of combat
Physical

Or at least I only do :S

So... all that happened is we took cover? So we lost 3? people from taking cover??

Shinra was infected and committed suicide to remain a survivor.
<Shade> rawr had to retrain everything and couldn't get enough rewards to continue
and Messbrutal was a victim of the 25% chance to lose a survivor from taking cover.

Bad day :(

indeed...but this was our only take cover, from here on out we have 0% chance of death by movement.

(zombies still represent a chance to kill us, though)

Props to Slayer, for creating the best tourney ever. I've never seen the CB community so alive over a tournament before, and it's really a joy to see. :)
Keep it up!

How do zombies kill us? Just ambush?

/me watches on forlornly from his seat in heaven as the zombies continue their charge.
"I hope they make it" he says as he goes and has fun in his happy place.

Yes that probably was unnecessary but i wish the rest of you luck in your mission.

Yee Thanks nayab, so whats the plan for today?

Let's go find nightmare.

I believe since we took cover yesterday we're dashing to suburbs 4 today.

Action?

I'm fairly certain the plan was to dash to suburbs 4, since we took cover yesterday.

Yeah, [Move 2 spaces] to Yellow 4.

Sorry, was unable to get on until just now.

Yeah, I agree. That's what I had understood to be the plan.

If you look above, you'll see that OB says we now have a 0% chance of death by movement from here on out, which would imply we would be moving off of the red path that gives us the 10% chance to lose a survivor.

I'm down with that.

Oh. I type too slowly.

The survivors spend the night constructing a means of escape from the Wal-Mart turned death trap. After barricading the lone door to the roof, the survivors constructed a ladder. The survivors slowly and silently moved from the roof to the parking lot outside the building, and soon were all gathered. The group began to move away, but Rhapsody of Fire began to lag behind. Artemis noticed this, and drifted back to see if Rhapsody was OK. Rhapsody saw Artemis walking towards him, fell to his knees, and when Artemis was leaning over him asking what was wrong, he grabbed a pistol and shot himself. All of the survivors looked back at the now dead Rhapsody of Fire.

At the sound of the shot, zombies began emerging from every pore of the Earth. Drawn to the smell of fresh blood and the sight of ready to be eaten survivors, the zombies shambled ever forward towards their meal. Artemis looked forward at the group, back at the zombies, and began sprinting for his life.

The survivors were now deep in the downtown area, near the major business center of the city. Zombies came by the thousand, and soon it was clear that to pursue this path was suicide. At the first chance, the survivors cut onto the highway and weaved their way through what was once bumper to bumper traffic towards the suburbs, hoping to find less resistance. Night soon fell, and the survivors began to encounter fewer zombies, until there were none. With their guard down, they slowly trod onward, towards Elm street. As they drew closer, the air became dank and heavy with the smell of rotten flesh. The survivors drew ever closer to The Horde. They were soon surrounded. They must either fight their way through, sneak by, or run for their lives.

Survivors have encountered The Horde

Post your wins against The Horde in this thread, only one win is necessary to proceed.

rrowland defeated Horde after 4 rounds of combat

You do not have to fight the boss until tomorrow, if OB decides on fighting. There is nothing you can do regarding the boss at this point in time.

i thought nightmare was on elm street? ; )

Took a quick test fight:

We're going to fight the Horde.

If you are unsure about beating him, I just did a test fight; I don't think it can do much more than 4k/round, so all you need is a ranged weapon, around 100DX, enough damage to do 20HP+ a round, and about 12-15k HP is suggested.

After taking a look at the MPR of the remaining survivors, I don't think this should be a problem for anyone.

Ready, Set, Go, or...?

Also, Slayer, you may want to move the green dot in the first post. Probably an easy thing to overlook since we've been there for 3 days.

I did move the green dot, your browser may have the image cached.

You cannot defeat the boss until tomorrow.

Uhoh, I'll be gone almost all of tommorow, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to fight the boss. What's the deadline?

Tomorrow at 5PM to saturday at 5PM is your window to fight the boss.

wait, does it take a day to fight a boss? O_O

Every action that you can make only updates once per day, so yes, you have to wait until an update for your decision to fight to go through. If you do win though, you move forward a space.

So you're saying it takes 1 day to decide to fight a boss, and 1 day to actually fight them. Wow, I hope we don't meet any more bosses or we're screwed.

One day to decide, one day to fight AND move.

2 days and 3 spades moved plus we fought a boss...thats not horrible movement

Example, today you decide to fight, tomorrow you fight, move one space automatically, AND you have that days decision to make as well, regarding movement.

Ok, that makes sense, thanks Slayer.

Kefeck2[T38] defeated Horde after 4 rounds of combat

OK, so Slayer, basically in one day we move 2 spaces, then we fight the boss and advance one space past him to Yellow 5?

3 spaces in 1 day = awesome.

And yeah, the decision will be to fight him. :D

3 spaces in 1 day = awesome.

Wont that meen less time too grow though?

Tal it also means more survivors left at the end.

It doesn't necessarily mean less time to get stronger because we can just rest the day after to gain more time.

Slayer:
If I'm correct, today (Friday) we have to decide to fight or not.
Then tomorrow (Saturday) we will actually be fighting it and if we win, move up a space.
Then tomorrow (Saturday) we also have to choose what to do, explore or move.

Right?

If so, then why are we given the window from Friday to Saturday to actually fight it? Isn't that time frame a bit leaning into the early position?

Also another important question:

"taking their only solace from the fact that Shinra had killed himself, rather than turn into a zombie."


Shinra's character is not retired, why?

on Saturday you can also make your day move (so Dash, Take cover etc) allowing more options then that Shade

He probably just hasn't done it yet thats all

Nayab:

"Then tomorrow (Saturday) we also have to choose what to do, explore or move. "

Exactly as I said...

I was wrong anyway, it's like Shade said.

"Wont that meen less time too grow though?"

I'm much more interested in getting to the end marker than in growing big.

Zombie Dawn (Warlords of Contest) Horde (F) (+) Zombie Dawn 4 7:24 PM EDT

Poo Stain (Wasting Time) Horde (F) (+) Poo Stain 4 7:41 PM EDT....Pwnd i beat him

Fight the boss, story to come.

rrowland (Shinobi Sanctuary) Horde (F) (+) rrowland 2 7:54 PM EDT

Finkle (LONG ISLAND DUB ALL-STARS) Horde (F) (+) Finkle 4 8:04 PM EDT

A quote from Slayer when I posted that the Dawn of War II soundtrack was available for free:
"Sick, I love that game."
Be warned! The next tournament will have you fending off a Tyranid invasion.

The Legend of Jiraiya (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) Horde The Legend of Jiraiya 1 8:55 PM EDT

lol, I thought something was off :S

OMGIMAZOMBIERUNPLZ defeated Horde after 2 rounds of combat
Physical ***

romero defeated Horde after 4 rounds of combat

romero (death by jabberwocky) Horde (F) (+) romero 4 9:05 PM EDT

Starting Late (LONG ISLAND DUB ALL-STARS) Horde (F) (+) Starting Late 3 9:17 PM EDT

Joybildo1 (F) (+) (Low Chars) Horde Joybildo1 4 9:47 PM EDT

oh sorry Shade, i thought that said Sunday.

N. Hugh Mann (Aye Phelta Thi) Horde (F) (+) N. Hugh Mann 4 1:59 AM EDT

Wild One (GodSpeed) Horde (F) (+) Wild One 2 2:02 AM EDT

Shade of the Dead (The Knighthood II) Horde (F) (+) Shade of the Dead 4 8:13 AM EDT

So last night we didn't have a storyline from Slayer?

Nothing to build up tension as we all get ready to fight the boss? >.<

So anyway, after we finish the bossfight we are going to

[Search/Rest]

Because we need a rest after fighting off a whole horde of zombies, don't you think?

I agree, we should [Search / Rest] after finishing The Horde off :)

go tier 4!

Busy weekend, update and story to come

Why retired all the bosses all of a sudden? To prevent us trying?

Day 5 Results

The survivors continued down the street, passing dilapidated house after dilapidated house. Corpses were strewn across the ground, this appears to have been the final stand of another similar group of survivors.

Soon, the survivors began facing several zombies, and as they pressed onward, the resistance grew. As the group took cover in a church tower, they gazed into a small intersection ahead. The sight of what lie ahead tore the warmth of hope from each of their hearts. A veritable gauntlet of zombies lined every street, every house was filled to the brim, and there seemed no way around this obstacle, The Horde. The leader of the survivors, OddBird, had decided on the course of action that must be taken. They would fight.

To fight the zombies on open ground would be suicide, so the survivors fortified the church as best as possible. They would hold here, and have one survivor go out to lure the unending horde into the trap. OddBird knew that nobody would be crazy enough to volunteer for this seemingly suicidal job, so he began to suit up to meet his end. However, as he was strapping on his body armor, dudemus stood up and stopped him. Taking off his shirt, dudemus exposed a large bite wound. While trying to save Messbrutal in the Wal-Mart, he had himself been bitten. He would go forth into the horde and draw them into the trap.

As dudemus walked out into the sea of zombies, he carried only a picture of his family, and a pistol with one shot.

Day 6 Results

The battle was now raging, the survivors were pushed back to the steeple of the church, and the horde still poured forth into the building. The survivors were now running low on ammunition, so several of the group had formed a wall with their riot shields, and were simply holding the horde at bay as the group tried to formulate a plan.

The horde had been thinned to the point where the vast majority of the zombies were either in or around the front of the church, and the survivors had been working on creating a rope to get out of the steeple if the shield wall should break. OddBird decided that the survivors would have to make a run for it and began sending people down the rope. As more of the survivors left the church, the wall grew weaker and weaker. Soon, there were only three survivors holding off Armageddon. MaetYm, the centerpiece of the shield wall, told the other survivors to hold the wall for a few seconds as he stepped back and prepared to make a running dive into the stairs. As he sprinted full speed into the front line of zombies, he plummeted down the steps and sent the zombies hurling backwards. As he fell, he was impaled upon a broken pieces of wood, and died. The remaining survivors retreated, and escaped into the suburbs.

The survivors are now resting in an empty fire station, which appears to have been the site of a military checkpoint. As the survivors look around, they find a cache of weapons hidden underneath the mattresses of the beds, a classic hiding place. [Tier 4 Unlocked]

In the night, the survivors can hear only the breathing of those around them, and sporadic gunfire in the distance.

That is rather Sad all considered.
At least they died as heroes.

It's ok, i actually had a heartattack jumping into all of those zombies. :(

No but seriously, this was my first tournament, and it was fun, loved Slayers stories.

yeah story Tournaments are always the best ones

Wicked fun!

Man, we should definitely put these stories behind each other in a protected document... :)

I'll do that this evening I think :)

Thanks Shade,
make sure to set up a thread at the end so everyone can get their own copy of it.

Man i missed most of the weekend and am still in it. woot!. =D

Today we

[Move 1 Space]

to space 6.

Are the zombie bosses supposed to be retired? I was hoping to test on them :(

" Are the zombie bosses supposed to be retired? I was hoping to test on them :( "

i took 'em down with me using my personal thermonuclear device...say hello to my little friend!

on a more serious note, i am counting on you guys to make the base. g'luck to you all.

We won't let you down, Romero!!

The bosses are back up, they auto-retired because of their score.

19 most recent battles
Attacker Defender Winner Rounds At
OMGIMAZOMBIERUNPLZ (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) Nightmares OMGIMAZOMBIERUNPLZ 17 2:44 PM EDT
OMGIMAZOMBIERUNPLZ (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) Nightmares OMGIMAZOMBIERUNPLZ 28 2:43 PM EDT
OMGIMAZOMBIERUNPLZ (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) Nightmares OMGIMAZOMBIERUNPLZ 9 2:43 PM EDT
OMGIMAZOMBIERUNPLZ (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) Nightmares OMGIMAZOMBIERUNPLZ 6 2:42 PM EDT


There we go, after retraining, I was like ... Uh oh... can't beat him :D Then I noticed I didn't have decay trained /facepalm

2 Eva minions, 25/26 eva. Post battle evasion is 20/21... People shouldn't have too much of a problem with him now that tier 4 is unlocked.

Day 7 Results

The survivors moved slowly through the back yards of houses they themselves once inhabited. The mutilated bodies of their former neighbors littered the ground, and abandoned military hardware lined the streets, no doubt left when the horde came through and decimated the area. As the survivors moved eastward, they could hear the faint sounds of a helicopter in the distance. The survivors ran towards the sound, eager to find an escape from the hellish scenes around them. As they drew near, they found that the helicopter had landed atop a high school building.

Wandering the halls of the high school were hundreds of zombie high school students. Moving from classroom to classroom, eyes glazed, with a tired and broken look upon their faces, had the survivors not known that this was a zombie invasion, they would be indistinguishable from normal high schoolers. Candycane had gone to school here, in this very building, and as he passed his physics class, he went in and had a seat. Staring out the window at his hometown, now a decimated warzone, he began calculating how far his body would land from the base of the building, assuming he runs at a constant speed, and jumps straight out the window. As the other survivors found out, the answer is 13 feet.

On the roof, the survivors found that there were two soldiers evacuating anybody who could reach them. As the survivors leaped in glee at the sight, the roof below them caved in. As the survivors plummeted into a group of zombies, followed closely by the spinning blades of the helicopter, kefeck looked up and screamed. He landed face up on the ground, and the helicopter came crashing down on him. The blades cleanly cut off both of his legs, and as he lay writhing in pain, the zombies began to congregate around their new feast. As the last of the survivors crawled out of the wreckage, they could only look back at their friend, and watch him turn into the very scourge they sought to escape.

/me roars!!!

Shade of the Dead defeated Nightmares after 36 rounds of combat

I'm game!

[edit] or not: Nightmares defeated Shade of the Dead after 16 rounds of combat

Your Action?

Why aren't we on space 6, and move forward one space is what I say we do.

move 1, then take cover, then double move over the line.
simple but effective.

Provided you should be on space 6 today :/

You are on space 6 right now

Oh ok thanks Slayer, my page just isn't showing us on the space number 6, thanks.

So Mess and Kefleck are zombies now?

Day 8 Results

As the survivors plotted their next move, OddBird, the leader of the group, peered around his old neighborhood. He saw his house, lying in ashes. Before leaving he had lit the house on fire. Trapped inside at the time were his two sons, and his infected wife. The sight of their fiery grave was too much for him, and he passed out. The survivors, unsure of what to do next, had no choice but to carry OddBird and press forward.

Morale was low, over the past few days, several had seen their friends violently ripped to pieces, hacked apart by helicopters, and gnawed on by a horror so vile that its mere presence struck fear into even the strongest of mens' hearts. As Drauglin trudged through his childhood house, or what remained of it, he sat down quietly. His disappearance went unnoticed. When the remaining survivors were simply silhouettes in the distance, he took his shotgun, pointed it in his mouth, and fired.

Only nine survivors remained. Some doubted they would ever make it to the base, some doubted the base even remained. The only mutual feeling was fear...fear of what lie ahead. At night, the terrible roar could be heard, a beacon, a gathering point for zombies.

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yah i'm a zombie rawr!. On another note made it too top 5 mpr finally ^.^

2 spots away...im excited to see wut happens

Please also retire Draugluin's character :)

So now we have 2 zombies, why/how did Kefeck become one?

Messbrutal's fightlog:

Totals: 15 307 15 1 4.44

This means he is below his 160 for a day, and he should face the penalty:

A zombie must fight at least 160 BA per day, or there will be a 30% chance of death. Dead zombies will not continue to collect prize money.

Was this calculated in?

May 5 action: Move forward 1 space.

So... why don't we move 2 spaces??

I'd say move 1 space, otherwise we'd lose more than we gain... also have to keep in mind that we're up against another boss soon.

Take cover and move 2 spaces.

Would that have less penalties than we now have? If not, why bother?

Afaik we have 2 zombies, and 1 of them has turned into one while being infected. When we [Take Cover] we'd kill him (Kefect if I'm right) but we might still lose someone (25% chance)

Then the next day we'd have 0% chance at losing someone due to movement.


If we move 1 space 2 times, we now only have 10% and 10% chance to lose someone...

Kefeck is already a zombie, he was not turned because of infection.

We should continue moving only 1 space because we actually have 0% chance to lose someone when we move 1 space. This is because of the 10% bonus from teir 4. taking cover still has a chance for us to lose a person, therefore moving 1 space is safer.

"Messbrutal's fightlog:

Totals: 15 307 15 1 4.44"

Shade you were mistaken, he did fight over 160 times, he just lost most of them :P.

oh... him losing most fights shouldn't count. it's too easy to just press enter...

no story today? Slayer: you keep getting late...

OB also sort of: I say we move 1 spot.

Day 9 Results

The survivors moved as though hypnotized by the soul-shattering roar, slowly dragging their feet as they moved ever closer to safety. As they passed block after block, it was eerily calm, no zombies in sight. The survivors moved through a local McDonalds, eager to find a source of nourishment. Admiralkiller stood guard at the door, in case the zombies should happen upon a free meal. As everyone rummaged through discarded patties and stale french fries, a low groan pervaded the air.

Whipping around, OddBird saw zombies simply walking past Admiralkiller. As Admiralkiller turned to face OddBird, only one word came from his mouth,
"BRAAAAAAINS."

Admiralkiller had been infected for two days, and had now turned! Even worse, he had led the survivors into an ambush. The fallen comrades of the survivors, Kefeck, and Messbrutal, both tore into the flesh of Jiraiya with their teeth.

The remaining survivors fled the building, taking cover in a nearby basement. As they ran from the building, the gurgling screams of Jiraiya rang out loudly. Another lost to the zombies.

As the survivors hid in the basement, the roar of a zombie could be heard...moving closer. The Zombie Leader had been awakened and alerted to their presence.

MMWWWaaaahahahahahaha!

LOL ^.^

Oh my god. I hate you Slayer.

:|

So I'm dead.

?? Wait how am I a zombie? I don't want to be a zombie :S

I'll just go ahead and post our action for tomorrow, since there's really not much of an alternative.

We're going to attempt to sneak past.

I'm still waiting to know how I'm a zombie. If we moved one space we have a +10% chance to lose a player, but we have tier 4 which is -10% chance to "lose a player to the zombies" and losing a player to movement killed them I thought? ... I don't want to be in the zombie pool on the last day.

That's garbage.

I'm assuming it was something like "gather zombies" that killed you.

Ambush like the story says.

"Admiralkiller had been infected for two days, and had now turned! Even worse, he had led the survivors into an ambush. The fallen comrades of the survivors, Kefeck, and Messbrutal, both tore into the flesh of Jiraiya with their teeth."

Pretty much covers all your questions right there. Admiral, Kefeck, and Messbrutal coordinated an ambush.

If we fail our sneak, Jiraiya, you'll still have a chance to take out your revenge and earn some CBDs...since there's no way we'll win by fighting, and we don't have enough survivors to flee. :P

ouch.....

Bugger

Nothing like putting in hours and hours of work for zero reward. *sigh* Guess I learned my lesson.

Wow there is only 6 of us left.... And yeah, against the zombie leader the only real choice is to try and sneak by... It's probably not going to work though.

Shade of the Dead defeated Nightmares after 9 rounds of combat

please make us fight against Nightmares instead :p

you are ninja like in your sneaking abilities! i have faith in you.

I think it might just be possible for me to defeat zombie leader, but only just and with a bit more time

The only way I might be able to get enough to beat him is by hiring another 2 minions and training decay on all my minions then retraining my big minion into only hp to focus him into a wall all the rest of the minions would train AS to help boost it a little more.

I would just have to survive with the wall through ranged then with 4 decays and the SF i would have to hope it would be enough to drain his hp right down then kill him off with the SF.

Same with me most likely...

Evasion isn't going to cut it, even though I have 30 of it.

I've Chatmailed Nem about a possibility - but don't post about it until you know for sure, Nem :)

Wild One defeated Zombie Leader after 8 rounds of combat

I can beat him. Since he doesn't have archery I can beat him. Art said he might be able to beat him tomorrow if he is lucky.

Ok, out of 10 fights I won 8 of them. I think that means that I can at least fight my way through. If you can get a minion with about 180k hp in the front then all for minions with decay, you should have a chance at beating him.

all 4 minions*

I am sure OB would agree with me in that I vote for fighting. we don't have much time left before 5 so we either need to elect someone really quick to change the order or if slayer will allow he can take our word that OB will go along with it considering the cm that he left me and the knowledge we have gained since then.

This is the CM that I got from him if it helps at all.

From: QBOddFish Sent: 10:55 AM EDT Delivered: 11:32 AM EDT
If you find yourself capable of beating Zombie Leader (test to make certain you can do it consistently) then let me know, and we may just take our 2M prizes and let you beat him for your 4M. It's more of a sure thing than sneaking and everyone possibly dying. :P

I agree with Nem, I wish Slayer would get on to tell us what we need to do. I'm about 90% sure i'll be able to beat Zombie Leader tomorrow as well.

Good Luck everyone!

Changing to [Fight] the boss.

Don't let us down, Nem, 'cuz I'm going to die and I am doing this so you beat him and we get our 2M ;)

go nem, go! i want my 2m as well. ; )

Seriously! I'm counting on this 2m to pay off my debt! >.>

go nem!

I take it we have until tomorrow time to finish fighting. I might have a shot at him also. :)

Day 10 Results

OddBird sat in a corner, watching as the others lay in their sleeping bags and rested. For every breath they took, he thought of those who had died under his leadership. He sat and wished that he could somehow sacrifice himself in their stead. But that time had come and gone.

At dawn, the survivors woke and went outside to find OddBird standing in the morning sunlight, ready to move for one more day, ready to relinquish his responsibilities to the military, ready to be free of blame.

Only one thing stood between the survivors, and safety. The Zombie Leader. A horribly mutated beast, it was Patient Zero, the origin of the infectious zombie virus. It stood on the dirt road, and as the survivors walked towards it, its eyes grew red with the lust for blood. OddBird stepped in front of the group, shotgun in hand. He took his weapon, pointed at the head of the abomination, and charged the monstrosity, screaming at the top of his lungs,

"FIGHT!"

You may now fight the boss.

If my math is right, Zombies that are alive are currently going to make 5.6mil. O.O

Wild One (GodSpeed) Zombie Leader (F) (+) Wild One 8 2:20 AM EDT

Good Luck all of you. I know you can beat him too.

woot go Nem!
now i get my 2million for killing myself :)

This was definitely the hardest boss out of them all. They all had weaknesses but this one's were a lot less obvious. They were there all the same though.

Silva - I thought so too, but don't count daily infections. Slayer said they don't count as zombie kills...

That'll be nice Rwar. lol I'd hate to have them make more than the survivors do. >.> Those who lived.

Shade of the Dead defeated Zombie Leader after 9 rounds of combat

Shade of the Dead (The Knighthood II) Zombie Leader (F) (+) Shade of the Dead 9 11:57 AM EDT

N. Hugh Mann defeated Zombie Leader after 8 rounds of combat

Took me a couple fights

N. Hugh Mann (Aye Phelta Thi) Zombie Leader (F) (+) N. Hugh Mann 8 1:14 PM EDT
N. Hugh Mann (Aye Phelta Thi) Zombie Leader (F) (+) Zombie Leader 9 12:38 PM EDT
N. Hugh Mann (Aye Phelta Thi) Zombie Leader (F) (+) Zombie Leader 8 12:44 PM EDT

Starting Late (LONG ISLAND DUB ALL-STARS) Zombie Leader (F) (+) Starting Late 8 3:13 PM EDT

Couldn't beat him. My familiar just couldn't knock him down after the Decay were all dead.

I also was lucky my first fight against him apparently... couldn't beat afterwards.

the pure AS/Decay/Familiar combo wasn't enough for me either...I had to add AC and GA to do it.

Anyway, Slayer?

He's basically writing an essay for the ending.

Day 11 Results

OddBird slammed his riot shield into the Leader's side, knocking it on its side for a brief moment. As he drew his shotgun into alignment with the zombies head, gunshots behind him drew his attention. From all sides, zombies were pouring into the area to defend their leader.



Rrowland and Warfish Tamerlane
Rrowland and Tamerlane took defensive positions inside of a small house on the right side of the street, from this position they had a clear view of the rear approach and thus were the lynch pin to the defensive structure. Rrowland stood at the crest of the staircase with an automatic rifle, dropping every zombie that managed to make its way into the house. Tamerlane stood in the window with a belt fed automatic shotgun, providing massive covering fire for the entire rear flank, and stopping the advancing horde in its tracks.



OddBird and Nemerizt
OddBird and Nemerizt, both of whom were military trained, fought head to head with the massive Zombie Leader. OddBird was armed with a sawed-off shotgun which he wielded with one hand, in the other was a riot shield. Nemerizt came equipped with a military laser cannon, impressive firepower, but heavy, and slow to reload.



Shade and Artemis
Shade and Artemis immediately head to the the right and left flanks, and took it upon themselves to prevent the merciless onslaught of zombies from reaching the Leader, and disrupting OddBird and Nemerizt. Shade took cover on top of an overturned trailer, and Artemis rained bullets upon the advancing horde from a treehouse in the adjacent yard.



The Battle

OddBird crouched behind a rusted out Toyota Camry, reloading his shotgun. The massive arm of the Zombie Leader smashed down on top of the car, crushing the roof in, and setting off the car alarm. OddBird dove to the side and covered himself with the riot shield as a pulse of purple and red energy shot out from the laser cannon and vaporized the car in a flash of light. As the Zombie Leader glanced at the source of the beam of light, OddBird sprung up and smashed into the zombie with his shield, firing two shots at the arms of the creature.

Shade had gone through three full rounds already, his M16 barrel was glowing orange from the heat of automatic fire, and still the zombies came at him in droves, throwing themselves upon his bullets by the hundreds. For now, Shade had the zombies at bay, so he glanced around to survey the situation. Nemerizt was recharging the laser cannon, OddBird was reloading his shotgun, and the Zombie Leader was lining up for a timely decapitation on Nemerizt. Shade jumped down from his perch and lined up his shot at the temple of the Zombie Leader. As he drew his finger to pull the trigger, he was bowled over by three zombies, and his shot went astray, distracting the zombie long enough for OddBird to escape from its reach. As the three zombies attempted to bite through the body armor Shade had worn, three shots rang out, and the zombies fell off of Shade, dead. Artemis reloaded his rifle once more and turned back to the right flank. Shade fell back to a sandbag bunker left by the military, and recovered his flank.

Tamerlane had set aside his shotgun, it was dangerously close to overheating. He used dual pistols and did his best to distract the horde of zombies now pushing through the rear flank, to no avail. Rrowland was now in the room as well, the door closed behind him. He was not able to hold the zombies off at the stairwell, and was now pinned inside the room with Tamerlane. They both knew they would most likely die here. They kept firing.

As OddBird looked around him, he saw zombies advancing on all sides. The rear flank was broken, the right flank was leaking zombies through, and the Zombie Leader still stood, eager to feast on the bodies of the survivors. Tossing his sawed-off shotgun and riot shield aside, OddBird pulled out two pistols, and recklessly fired into the head of the Zombie Leader. The small caliber bullets had little effect, and the Zombie Leader smashed OddBird into a wall.

Artemis was forced to leave the treehouse, lest he be trapped and unable to escape. He retreated into the sandbag bunker with Shade, and picked up OddBird's shotgun. Gunfire from the rear flank had long since stopped, and blood dripped from the windows. OddBird slowly climbed out of the wreckage, and looked around for his weapons. He could find only a broken shard of wood from a kitchen table, its end shattered and forming a spear point. Nemerizt stood from behind his cover, and fired blindly into the Zombie Leader just as it was about to tear him limb from limb. The zombie's left arm and much of its body was blown off, torn from existence by the pillar of light emitted from the laser cannon. OddBird saw his chance, he sprinted at the zombie, brandishing the sharpened table leg. Leaping forward, he plunged the weapon into the neck of the beast. As the monster fell, OddBird jumped to safety. The zombie crashed into a house, and as it lay in the rubble, the chimney collapsed, and crushed its head.

Nemerizt and OddBird crawled to the sandbags, and from all sides they could see, the zombies kept coming.



One day later
The silhouette of a man enters the front gates of the military base. He calls out, but there is no answer. He sits on the ground, alone, abandoned. As a familiar groan rises above the white noise, OddBird sits, staring at a picture of his family. As the zombies surrounded him, and tear apart his now fragile body, a siren rings from the depths of the base. A plane flies overhead, and drops something in the center of the city. A white flash and a deafening crash, a wall of fire cleanses the city, and then there was quiet.

woow, too much to read, /goes to sleep first.

Prizes will go out soon, the deaths of everyone in the end was only for the story, only rrowland and Warfish Tamerlane actually died.

Awesome story slayer, looking forward for the book release :).

Nice

ya, awesome story indeed

Great story and great tourney Slayer. I had more fun in this tourney than any other one.

Wooo, I'm a dead hero war veteran! :D

Thanks Slayer, awesome tourney as always, but this one was definitely my favorite thus far.

Prizes sent, all in all, just under 50m in prizes.

woohoo! that was really a novel idea and great fun, even though i got infected. thank you sir!

Yea slayer lots of money spent...but was a wicked tournament i have only played two...but it was the best one so far!

You should also think of writing.

I'm a terrible writer.

i would really enjoy seeing something you think you are good at then! ; )

Yay! This tourney was amazing, good job slayer =).

The tourney was great.
Your story was wonderful.

I only wish for a part 2, because even though the zombies are killed, still someone is infected...

"You are the infected. You are now on your first day of infection, after 5PM on Friday, you will become a zombie. You may not share this chatmail with anyone, you must chatmail me your decision on your action before Friday at 4PM."

Woooh. Close one.

Next tourney, I start as zombie and I eat all of your brains, arrrgghhh.

This was great. It was a lot of fun. You are going to have a hard time getting another tourney as good as this one though. So Good Luck! I hope we see another even better.

Artemis, then I'm not alone ;)

I think also that was the reason why us 2 fought together in the story :)

Three cheers for Slayer!
he deserves them for his efforts in this tournament and his contributions to the community.
One!
Two!
Three!
Thanks Slayer