what would you use? (in General)

lostling May 25 2009 11:52 AM EDT

ok this is for a wall on a 4 minion team...

1st 3 minions have AOIs
im trying to decide if the wall in the last slot should have

full AC armor?

full AC armor - CML + DBs?

full AC armor - CML - MS + DBs + MGS?

full AC armor - MS + SOC?

full AC armor - CML - MS + DBs + SOC?

any help would be appreciated :)

AdminTal Destra May 25 2009 11:53 AM EDT

full AC armor - CML - MS + DBs + MGS

just my 2 cents

lostling May 25 2009 11:56 AM EDT


AdminTal Destra May 25 2009 11:57 AM EDT

better protection from magic and DBs increase chance to be missed

QBRanger May 25 2009 12:02 PM EDT

I would need to know what the other 3 minions are training and what tattoo you are using. Also, is your wall planning on training a skill such as PL?

For a wall, I would not use the SoC. A MS is better all around. If it is a minitank using a mace weapon then perhaps a SoC.

The biggest things are:

Head gear: HoD
Body Armor: Adam
Gloves: TG
Amulet: AoAC
Cloak: SC
Boots: CML vs DB
Shield: MS vs MgS

I do think that DBs are less attractive then CML unless they are really high +. That is over 150. In addition, you can use CML and train evasion to about 150k levels given a (40ish) effect after penalties. While this is not a lot, it does lower damage by 1 hit every 2.5 rounds on average.

If you plan on fighting everything, use the MS. If you plan on going after more mages, use the MgS. However the MgS would really only help vs MM mages.

lostling May 25 2009 12:06 PM EDT

well a PL battery is involved... and an enchanter training either DM or AMF

lostling May 25 2009 12:20 PM EDT

if anyone could do some calculations for me it would be much appreciated :)

AdminShade May 25 2009 12:42 PM EDT

I'm going to make a calculation based on a 50 Evasion trained in effect (play by play) while wearing the full Wall armour as Ranger suggested.

total Skill penalty: 17%

Experience needed to have 'trained in effect' (50 ) 151,556
Initial skill penalty calculated, you need: 182,598 experience

Adding the 40% exp DX-less penalty: 304,330 experience needed.

three4thsforsaken May 25 2009 3:42 PM EDT

train an evasion and use an MC instead of AC? The upgrade curve is much closer to the AC since its buff.

TheHatchetman May 25 2009 4:47 PM EDT

full AC armor - CML - MS + DBs + MGS = not a wall :P it's almost as steep a drop in AC as you would get by making a ToE wall :P
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