Do you have swine flu? (in Off-topic)
Better check to make sure!
October 28 2009 5:52 PM EDT
In all reality, my wife's dad is recovering from the Swine Flu.
He has a liver transplant and almost died.
*cough* *cough* nah I feel fine...
I had too
October 28 2009 6:02 PM EDT
My sisters fiance's brother had it. He's fine now, and immune.
October 28 2009 6:03 PM EDT
I seen that site the other day trying to figure out if I had the flu or the swine flu.
All I know is I have the flu, just checking over it. Still minor coughing though.
October 28 2009 6:07 PM EDT
October 28 2009 6:10 PM EDT
Honestly I have seen both sides of the Spectrum as I am the head of security at a high class private school. I have seen people go off the deep end when someone sneezes. I have seen 3/4ths of an entire Grade be absent because they contracted flu like symptoms. My thoughts on this are as follows:
1) People need to get educated on just what Swine Flu is and Protect themselves and family members accordingly.
2) People Should be more careful and avoid panicking as it solves absolutely nothing and completely adds to the problem.
There is nothing like trying to separate a group of people while in a heated stand up and get in your face discussion about Swine Flu Symptoms. It is even harder when they are Misinformed and are Panicking and causing the rest of the Crowd to panic as well.
October 28 2009 6:20 PM EDT
This is a bad time of the year coming up too.. where the regular flu is going to cause even more confusion. I'm still hearing about swine vaccine associated deaths among children rising, need to check out the cdc or who sites sometime when I have a little bit and check out the latest. I got a flu vaccine for the first time, but won't do the H1N1 vacc.
There's nothing wrong with the swine flu vaccine. The Luddites pushing the scare stories are full of it.
nothing wrong with the vaccine?!? maybe where you are but in Canada, the government and the company responsible for making the vaccine have positioned themselves so that they are no liable for any consequences as a result of someone taking the rushed vaccine.
If you want to prove your hypothesis, come up with medical evidence that shows a causal link between the swine flu vaccination and widespread side effects and death among a vaccinated cohort. Until you have actual proof, you're driving on the fumes of anti-vaccination hysteria.
Hell, I don't even get the regular Flu vaccination. My immune system is fine.. It's called eat right, take vitamins and don't go kissin no pigs.
Joke thread fails to deliver, I guess.
October 28 2009 9:01 PM EDT
Vaccines are fine to be rushed, in fact you can make one instantly. All you do is take some of the actual virus, reduce it to a very small amount and give it to someone. It's not enough to make them sick and it "teaches" thier immune system to fight it off.
Or this is just one more way the black helicopters are out to get us...
October 28 2009 9:06 PM EDT
WTB more people that post on our forums like these winners:
The Coast To Coast AM reference is telling.
October 28 2009 9:38 PM EDT
IA, it is rare, but flu vaccines do have side-effects. It's called Guillain-Barre. I know you are careful to say "show me the WIDESPREAD effects," but let me ask you this, as a hypothetical:
-- If you get the vaccine, there is one in a million chance you get a deadly syndrome that either kills you, or you wish you'd be dead.
-- If you don't get the vaccine, this is the case: you have a higher chance of getting the flu, which has a slight chance of killing you.
Note: In the first case, the chance is tiny, tiny, but you have zero control over your fate. In the second case, the chances are probably higher you could get the flu. But it is slightly in your control. Maybe you live alone, never go out, and are never exposed to kids (sometimes germy).
So, what do you choose? Plenty of folks prefer to drive than fly for safety reasons, even though statistically flying is safer. Why? Control.
That is compounded when you feel you might have control over getting the flu in the first place, _and_ you know that even if you DO get the flu, you won't die from it. Stay home and fight it out.
It isn't as simple as saying everyone "against" the vaccine is a crackpot, and everyone for it is totally awesome. All H1N1 has done is bring two strains of the flu at once, and that's hard to combat. But swine flu isn't all that worse (if at all) than normal flu, despite all the misinformation from the 1970s breakout. Cripes, I barely read more than a few soundbytes here and there, and I know what's going on. No one's crazy, no one's right, no one's wrong. Everyone needs to calm the Hell down.
October 28 2009 9:39 PM EDT
And Slayer? Yeah. Damn funny. Sorry I got caught up in the asinine hype my damn self. *smile*
October 28 2009 9:52 PM EDT
I adore me some Sutekh lately. I feel like I'm getting smarter just by reading what he writes.
Yes, Sutekh. You're creating a monster. Me... With a brain. /gasp
I saw a guy on the train yesterday wearing a facemask. I had a very strong urge to sneeze on him. But that's gross. But I really wanted to. That kind of crap is what creates panic. It's also incredibly arrogant (Yeah, you're special man. You're the one who's going to get it. Take that dang mask off unless you're giving one to everyone. You're no more important than anyone else. Act like it! :P)
As far as the masks go, everything I've heard says they don't actually protect you, but rather help prevent you from spreading it if you already have it.
October 28 2009 9:55 PM EDT
If that guy was sick, I'm a tuba. And I am not a tuba.
(BTW Slayer, epic forum picture. Of course, the funniest part was that the guy spelled Awesome wrong. Guess he's to awesome to go to school as well, neh? :P)
Space Marines: too cool for school.
October 28 2009 10:00 PM EDT
In response to your question sut
"So, what do you choose?"
There is more than just yourself to think about as well in this equation. If a certain percentage of a community is vaccinated, then there is no possibility of an outbreak large enough to wipe out the community, any outbreak at all will shrink shortly afterwards rather than epidemic growth.
Now it's very true that not everyone in the community needs the vaccination to reach this level, and the % that is required is based on alot of different factors such as proximity of members of the community, incubation times, methods of transmital etc.
Since not everyone ever needs to be vaccinated then it leaves room for those conspiracy theorists to go the road of avoiding the shot. However if you're on the fence about it, you might as well do what I consider the morally right thing and get a vaccination, because although you might be taking a tiny risk to yourself, you're helping decrease the community risk.
October 28 2009 11:53 PM EDT
Wraith, if I am not at risk to get it (low exposure, no kids, etc.), how am I at risk to GIVE it?
All I am saying is that there is a choice here. It doesn't have to be some sort of herd panic (though your point about herd immunity is entirely accurate and well made).
Aw, Fel, you warming up to me? *laugh*
October 29 2009 1:01 AM EDT
Prevention is important too. Clean your hands often and avoid touching orifices with your dirty hands.
October 29 2009 1:04 AM EDT
Today is a great day, Sut learned a new emote ;)
October 29 2009 1:10 AM EDT
October 29 2009 1:39 PM EDT
Heh, nice picture, Veri... I am surprised they don't have "standard" flu on there for comparison (did I miss it?) I googled that and found that standard flu kills something between 250K and 500K people a year. So even in just 300 days, I would assume we are looking at 200K.
Kind of puts the swine variant in perspective, at least so far... I'm not saying we shouldn't be vigilant about contagion and health (we should ALWAYS be that way, even when the media isn't trying to scare our pants off), but it seems safe for me to say the swine flu hype is over-rated based on hard numbers.
Dr. Maddie Albright was on TV last night not shaking hands with the host because she believes she's so far down the vaccine priority list, she'll die of old age before she gets it. Priceless.
October 29 2009 3:13 PM EDT
... and by 'gets it' are we talking the vaccine or the disease?
Personally I don't ever get vaccinated. I've spent the better part of the decade licking every phone receiver, door knob, and handrail I see just to build up my immune system the natural way. I may have lost a few jobs and girlfriends as a result by I feel confident that I can withstand the flu.
The point of all this, of course, is
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